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	Berbers was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Part of the content of the "History of Punic-era Tunisia: chronology" article was merged into Berbers on 16 March 2016. That page and its contribution history for attribution purposes is now located here.

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Does the populations section counts the language speakers or ethnic?, numbers would be a lot higher if it's the later. --LibyaDragoon (talk) 10:46, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the infobox it says "related ethnic groups...Picts, Iberians, Tartessians"

First of all, all those groups are ancient. Ancient ethnic groups should not be included here, since it's impossible to actually conform what ethnic group they were and the nature of that group. But Picts? seriously? I don't think I need to elaborate here, but the Picts were a celtic people from scotland 1,500 years ago... Tartessians and Iberians were both unidentified peoples from modern Spain and Portugal...thousands of years ago, from before roman conquest... SAMMI?! Thousands of miles away and totally unrelated... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.40.128 (talk) 03:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The claim for relation to Iberians and Picts comes from a 1956 paper, so I think it would really need a more recent reference to support it. That said, from skimming through the paper, it is arguing that the original population of the British Isles came from Iberia (a claim that I have seen made in a number of sources, and seems to be plausible), and that they in turn came from North Africa. So there may be a germ of truth in the claim. That said, claiming specifically that the Picts, as opposed to the British more generally seems overly specific (and probably wrong, as the idea that the Picts were a pre-Celtic relic population seems to be disproved). And claiming that the British and the Berbers are related on the basis of 3000 year old migrations from Iberia may be correct in one sense, but is hardly useful or meaningful as the same argument would make most groups in Europe, North Africa, or Western Asia related to each other.

The claim about relationship to the Saami, on the other hand, is based on a more recent (2005) mtDNA analysis, so may be more scientific. But this connection would have been about 9000 years ago (from the paper), and if it is meaningful to list a relationship on that basis, then again, presumably many more groups would need listing as well. Iapetus (talk) 12:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

3500 Berbers in israel ????????!? i thought there were 1 million moroccans in israel, and most moroccans are ethnically berber ! what a nonsense... any advice ? Macadam1 (talk) 10:47, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but at least of of Morrocan Jews are Sephardi but the majority of Algerian Jews and Libyan Jews are Berber Jews as well as a significant amount of Morrocan jews Dahound575 (talk) 21:27, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Some text from the History of Punic-era Tunisia: chronology article was merged into this article with this edit. Page history for attribution can be found at Talk:History of Carthage/History of Punic-era Tunisia: chronology. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 08:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]