Reading with Style discussion

So I am doing something unusual for next season, partly inspired by the Call and Response task from a few seasons past and mostly inspired by one of my favorite threads in the 1001 Books group: 1001 Books in Other 1001 Books.

Summer's 20.10 task:
Read a book that was mentioned in a novel you read for the Spring or Summer 2015 challenges. The reference must be specific enough to apply to a single title. This task cannot be used to claim combo points .

Please use this thread to keep track of titles mentioned in the novels you read for the Spring challenge!

From The Brothers Karamazov:

"Only fancy, he claims (he was arguing about it all the way yesterday) that Gogol wrote Dead Souls about him."

A fun task!

From A Constellation of Vital Phenomena:

Hadji Murad by Leo Tolstoy. Sorry, I have returned Constellation to the library already so I don't have the actual quote. Here are a couple of links that refer to the Tolstoy's inclusion, which I hope will do instead.

Tolstoy, whose Chechnya-set novel, “Hadji Murad,” is mentioned several times in this one

Within its pages we also find other books: Tolstoy’s late novel Hadji Murád (1912)

Okay --- someone needs to read one of Nick Hornby's books that is a review of his year in reading.

I ready The Polysyllabic Spree last season, and it was great. :-)

Here's a link to his Stuff I've Been Reading series.

Or will books about books be barred from the challenge?

This is going to be great fun! Am I reading it correctly that it must be mentioned in a book I read myself or will it be one mentioned in any book posted here by an rws reader?

Karen Michele wrote: "This is going to be great fun! Am I reading it correctly that it must be mentioned in a book I read myself or will it be one mentioned in any book posted here by an rws reader?"

Good catch Karen - I missed the '...YOU READ' bit in Liz's original post. I guess I'd better read another of Hornby's books myself this season. That is if Books about Books are allowed for this task.

Only in novels? Not in nonfiction? Or biography?

Krista wrote: "Okay --- someone needs to read one of Nick Hornby's books that is a review of his year in reading.

I ready The Polysyllabic Spree last season, and it was great. :-) ..."

This series (and most books about books) are not novels.

Karen Michele wrote: "This is going to be great fun! Am I reading it correctly that it must be mentioned in a book I read myself?"

You must read both books for this to work. But if someone else posts a working pair that intrigues you, you're more than welcome to borrow the idea & read both the works for yourself. :)

itpdx wrote: "Only in novels? Not in nonfiction? Or biography?"

Correct. However, if a fictional character is reading a work of non-fiction (if, for example, a character in Wives and Daughters is reading On the Origin of Species) you can read the non-fiction work referenced.

Okay --- so it's getting tougher. :-)

Love it!

Young adult novel Cloaked mentions a few classics books but I'll have to get it out of the library again to find the references.

I'll start keeping a list for current/future reads.

The heroine of Nebula Award winning novel Among Others by Jo Walton likes to read; Listopia: Novels Mentioned in Among Others has a list of all the novels mentioned in the novel. I read Among Others when it first came out in 2011, and gave it a 5 * rating. It's a coming of age novel of a young teenaged girl who likes to read fantasy and science fiction.

If anyone reads Northanger Abbey, the main character reads "The Mysteries of Udolpho".

Ok, I've been reading some books featuring a bookseller, so I've scanned back through. This'll let me keep track, although I have no clue if I actually want to read any of these... :)

In Fatal Shadows: Date With Death, Here There Be Dragons, When in Rome

In A Dangerous Thing: Titus Andronicus, The Bride Wore Black, Fadeout

Just finished Stone Mattress: Nine Tales (2014) by Margaret Atwood

Story: “Alphinland”, p. 22, “There was a small group that confessed to reading Lord of the Rings, though you had to justify it through an interest in Old Norse.”
Story: “Revenant”, p. 57, “It was when you were working on the The Odyssey translation.”
Story: “Torching the Dusties”, p. 225, “Gone with the Wind is the book she’s struggling with at the moment.”

Here are the actual references that I've come across while reading books for the Spring Challenge:

1. As Chimney Sweepers Come to Dust today, Flavia references: (I checked out the printed version of the book so I could add page references.)
Cymbeline (Book's Epigraph)
Nicholas Nickleby (pg 52)
Love's Labour's Lost (pg 64)
King Lear (pg 83)
Hard Times (pg 89)
the following were all mentioned on page 343
Anne of Green Gables
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
The Hunchback of Notre-Dame
Heidi
Little Women
A Girl of the Limberlost
Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ
Tales of Edgar Allan Poe
The Murders in the Rue Morgue: The Dupin Tales

2. In Rhyming Life and Death by Amos Oz: (Page 25) reference to Narcissus and Goldmund by Hermann Hesse

3. In A Man Lay Dead pg 35 Nigel Bathgate is reading Joseph Conrad's Suspense

4. In A Taint In The Blood pg 16 (Large Print edition) Johnny is reading Pilgrimage: The Book of the People by Zenna Henderson
Pg 300, Kate is finishing Last Standing Woman by Winona LaDuke
and starting Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore

5. In Nowhere to Be Found (Kindle Location 149) the unnamed narrator's sister is likened to the character, Tyltyl in The Blue Bird in Maurice Maeterlinck

6. In Among Others (Books I'm interested in only)
pg 19, Jane of Lantern Hill by L.M. Montgomery
pg 23 When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit by Judith Kerr (Lexile = 940)
pg 23 Dragonquest by Anne McCaffrey (Pern #2)
pg 27 A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller Jr.
pg 27 Dying Inside by Robert Silverberg
pg 29 Have Space Suit—Will Travel by Robert A. Heinlein
pg 34 The Chrysalids by John Wyndham
pg 40 The Lathe of Heaven by Ursula K. Le Guin
pg 41 Dragonflight by Anne McCaffrey (Pern #1)
pg 47 Nine Princes in Amber by Roger Zelazny (The Chronicles of Amber #1)
pg 47 The Guns of Avalon by Roger Zelazny (The Chronicles of Amber #2)
pg 75 The End of Eternity by Isaac Asimov
pg 92 Glory Road by Robert A. Heinlein
pg 105 Dragonsong and Dragonsinger by Anne McCaffrey
pg 110 2001: A Space Odyssey and Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke
pg 114 Dune by Frank Herbert and City by Clifford D. Simak
pg 117 Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
pg 132 A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K. Le Guin (Earthsea #1)
pg 215 Brat Farrar by Josephine Tey
pg 219 I, Claudius by Robert Graves
pg 240 Little Women by Louisa May Alcott and Pollyanna by Eleanor H. Porter
pg 248 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein (4.16 rating)
pg 248 Citizen of the Galaxy Robert A. Heinlein (3.95 rating Lexile 820)
pg 259 This Immortal by Roger Zelazny
pg 275 Pavane by Keith Roberts
pg 275 The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick
pg 279 Gate of Ivrel by C.J. Cherryh


6. From Work Song by Ivan Doig (Listened in audiobook format)
Disc 2 of 8 Great Expectations by Charles Dickens
Disc 7 of 8 Track 12, all the following books by Émile Zola: Thérèse Raquin, Germinal, J'Accuse! Emile Zola et l'Affaire Dreyfus, Nana

7. From The Moonstone by Wilkie Collins (listened to in audiobook format)
Audio disc 1 and 2 - Mr Betteredge's favorite book which he references MANY times is -- Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe

8. From The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde
pg 11 (book is referenced many times) Martin Chuzzlewit by Charles Dickens
pg 190 Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë
pg 205 The Taming of the Shrew
pg 206 Dombey and Son by Charles Dickens


9. From The Secret Wisdom of the Earth (Completed: 6/9/15)
Treasure Island, p22
A Midsummer Night's Dream, p39
Lord of the Flies, p64
The Last of the Mohicans, p138
Gulliver's Travels, p138
The Call of the Wild, p324

10. From Urn Burial (Listened to CD Audiobook)
Chapter Epigraphs - Urne Burial (also known as)Sir Thomas Browne's Hydriotaphia and the Garden of Cyrus
Disc 3 - Bleak House by Charles Dickens

11. From Lost in a Good Book by Jasper Fforde (listened to in audiobook)
Disc 2 Track 7 - Three Men in a Boat by Jerome K. Jerome

12. From Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel (Read Spring Challenge)
A Midsummer Night's Dream Referenced throughout the book as one of the plays the troupe routinely performs.

Deedee wrote: "Young adult novel Cloaked mentions a few classics books but I'll have to get it out of the library again to find the references.

I'll start keeping a list for current/future reads.
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Hi Deedee:

Thanks for the recommendation for Among Others. It looks like a ton of books are referenced, and it won a bunch of prizes. It's nice to see that it fits this season's task 10.5 w/the Nebula Award. I just might read it for that task so that I'll have a wide range of books to choose from during the Summer challenge.

Krista wrote: "Deedee wrote: "Young adult novel Cloaked mentions a few classics books but I'll have to get it out of the library again to find the references.

I'll start keeping a list for current..."

I may join you! It's been on my TBR for awhile now and I almost slated it in this time, but chose one I owned instead.

In Tooth and Nail by Ian Rankin:

To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf

Also:
"He was thinking of the character in a Dickens book he'd read a long time ago, a schoolteacher who wanted facts and nothing but."
I believe this is a reference to Tom Gadgrind from Hard Times by Charles Dickens

Also:
Hawksmoor by Peter Ackroyd
King Ludd by Andrew Sinclair

I just finished The Secret Wisdom of the Earth and these books were referenced:

Treasure Island, p22
A Midsummer Night's Dream, p39
Lord of the Flies, p64
The Last of the Mohicans, p138
Gulliver's Travels, p138
The Call of the Wild, p324

All would be re-reads for me, but just in case!

The Eyre Affair has been on my TBR shelf for a long time, and I can work it into the Spring Challenge. It sounds like it might have a lot of literary references.

Can anyone who has read the book tell me if other books (other than Jane Eyre) are mentioned in it?

Thanks!

Krista, I'm reading that one right now and so far there have been a fair few classics mentioned. Off the top of my head, there's Martin Chuzzlewit by Dickens, Gulliver's Travels, Jane Eyre (of course), Hamlet and Richard III. And the book itself is pretty darn good!

Sam wrote: "Krista, I'm reading that one right now and so far there have been a fair few classics mentioned. Off the top of my head, there's Martin Chuzzlewit by Dickens, Gulliver's Travels, Jane Eyre (of cour..."

Hi Sam: Thanks for the update! I thought that there might be other books mentioned. I'll see if I can work this into the Spring Challenge. I know it fits Task 10.9, Tried and True at a minimum.

oh, my. I just finished Gone Girl and I believe a book was mentioned by the male main character but i gave the book to my niece to read cuz it was so good. I'll have to ask her as she is reading it, to watch for me.

Except now I remember both Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn were mentioned as the protagonist grew up on the Mississippi and had a summer job in Hannibal, MO, Twain's hometown.

Krista wrote: "Sam wrote: "Krista, I'm reading that one right now and so far there have been a fair few classics mentioned. Off the top of my head, there's Martin Chuzzlewit by Dickens, Gulliver's Travels, Jane E..."

All that series is full of book references!

http://novelnovice.com/2010/08/06/clo...

Books mentioned in Clockwork Angel by Cassandra Clare

How will be able to reference the books the book came from so you all could verify it?

Lots of Stephen King's books reference books from The Lord of the Rings series. I can't think of them all except for It .
King also references his own works in many of his books.

Mister Pip by Lloyd Jones is about a teacher who continually reads Great Expectations to the children on the island.

Rebekah wrote: "How will be able to reference the books the book came from so you all could verify it?"

The point of this thread is for you to document which books are referenced in Book A.

For this one, y'all are on an honor system -- the scorekeepers are not going to skim "It" to make sure it really mentions The Lord of the Rings.

As a further note to the above, as much as possible keep the posts in this thread to actual, confirmed references rather than "oh I read XXX ten years ago and it probably mentions YYY, ZZZ, and AAAA".

That way, when this thread rolls over into the Summer Challenge I won't have to delete so many posts.

From The Kill:

Metamorphoses, p222

From New Grub Street:

The Odyssey - "In a few minutes it occurred to him that it would be delightful to read a scrap of the 'Odyssey'; he went to the shelves on which were his classical books, took the desired volume, and opened it where Odysseus speaks to Nausicaa"

Oedipus Rex - "Let me have your Sophocles. . . . Now, I want to know how you scan this chorus in the 'Oedipus Rex.'"

Diogenes Laertius: Lives of Eminent Philosophers

Pliny's letters -- maybe Pliny's Letters or Selections from Pliny's Letters

The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri

From The Bell Jar:

Finnegans Wake

from Farewell, Dorothy Parker by Ellen Meister:

p. 120: “Violet shot her a warning look. The last thing she wanted was a buzz of neighborhood gossip about Violet Epps’s crazy friend who thought she was a character from The Great Gatsby."

p.296-297: “She went through a stack of old battered hardcovers, most of which were missing the book jackets, and was surprised to discover a first edition of Enough Rope, Dorothy Parker’s first poetry collection.”

In Ashes in My Mouth, Sand in My Shoes he was reading The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

In A Hero of Our Time he was reading Old Mortality.

Krista wrote: Hi Deedee:

Thanks for the recommendation for Among Others. It looks like a ton of books are referenced, and it won a bunch of prizes. It's nice to see that it fits this season's task 10.5 w/the Nebula Award. I just might read it for that task so that I'll have a wide range of books to choose from during the Summer challenge. ..."

It's a good novel, and perfect for this group's spring & summer challenges. Enjoy!

Cloaked was a bit younger than I usually read -- middle school rather than high school -- but enjoyable as the author includes several fairy tales into the story. I'm waiting for whomever checked it out after me to return it so I can check it out again and make a list of books referenced.

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From Murder on the Yellow Brick Road (Toby Peters #2) by Stuart M. Kaminsky

Chapter 10: “’His name is Raymond Chandler, and he lives someplace in Santa Monica. He’s listed.’
‘Same Chandler who wrote The Big Sleep’, asked Phil.”

In My Uncle Napoleon quoted in many places The Gulistan of Sa'di

Hmmm, the only thing I can remember is in All the Birds, Singing there has been mention of the Bible.

Um, no. I don't think I could have that finished in a season!

Now I have seen the thread I will try to be diligent!

Les Chatiments Hugo Nc 2002 by Victor Hugo is mentioned in On the Eve by Ivan Turgenev It is Les Chatiments by Victor Hugo.... Good Reads has the title a bit messed up.

from Cloud Atlas

Moby-Dick; or, The Whale
A Moveable Feast
The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
An Evil Cradling
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
The Epic of Gilgamesh
The Drowned and the Saved

From Louis Lambert:

Robinson Crusoe
The Sorrows of Young Werther
Corinne, or Italy

there may be others

From The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas Gertrude Stein, writing as Alice B. Toklas mentions her own books:

Three Lives
The Making of Americans
Geography and Plays
Tender Buttons
Useful Knowledge
Lucy Church Amiably
How to Write
Last Operas and Plays
and
Le Potomak by Jean Cocteau
In Our Time by Ernest Hemingway
The Enormous Room by E.E. Cummings
This Side of Paradise by F. Scott Fitzgerald
The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway
The Trail of the Lonesome Pine by John Fox Jr.
Les Misérables by Victor Hugo
Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe

"Summer's 20.10 task:
Read a book that was mentioned in a novel you read for the Spring or Summer 2015 challenges."

So a new person could read a novel, perhaps inspired by our posts in this thread, then read a book mentioned within, all during the Summer challenge. Not easy but not impossible, I don't think.

Christine wrote: "I have a general question about this planned task. It basically makes it impossible for someone new - or someone who doesn't participate in this round - to be able to do this task at all. Is that n..."

Kazen wrote: "So a new person could read a novel, perhaps inspired by our posts in this thread..."

And not only a book pair mentioned in this thread. In the first post I linked to the topic in the 1001 books group that inspired this task. In that thread there are 459 posts representing HUNDREDS of possible pairings.

Catch-22 references Moby-Dick; or, The Whale

A Room with a View mentions The Way of All Flesh.

Early in the The Plague, Cottard refers to Kafka's The Trial

Persuasion is referenced in John Fowles' The French Lieutenant's Woman.

Native Son is mentioned in Chapter 22 of Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man

In Vanity Fair, Becky is reading Smollett's The Expedition of Humphry Clinker to her students.

Tender Is the Night mentions Alexander Pushkin & refers to an event in Eugene Onegin

The Children's Book by A.S. Byatt refers to Kim - Rudyard Kipling, News from Nowhere - William Morris, & Alice in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time, not too surprisingly, mentioned The Hound of the Baskervilles a few times

A Prayer for Owen Meany, narrated by a high school literature teacher mentions: The Great Gatsby, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, and The Brothers Karamazov

Cranford references The Pickwick Papers

Moloka'i references "Around the World in Eighty Days", "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland", "Turning of the Screw", "Treasure Island", "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea", "Journey to the Center of the Earth", and "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer"

I don't have the book in front of me anymore, but I know Station Eleven referenced both A Midsummer Night's Dream and King Lear (and others that I can't remember). The thing is, they're being performed as plays, not necessarily being read. Would that count or not?

in The Elegance of the Hedgehog:
-The German Ideology
-Death in Venice and Other Tales
-Anna Karenina
-In Search of Lost Time
-War and Peace
-Cartesian Meditations: An Introduction to Phenomenology
-The Book of Tea
-The Girl Who Played Go
-Gone with the Wind
-sum of logic by Ockham

From Outline:

"I thought often of the chapter in Wuthering Heights where Heathcliff and Cathy stare from the dark garden through the windows of the Lintons' drawing room and watch the brightly lit family scene inside." (p75)