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Allegiant by Veronica Roth
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really liked it
bookshelves: why-yes-i-ya

do i understand why people are all angry at this book?

oh, yes. i understand.

but i loved it.

i loved it for two reasons.


reason number one:








reason number two.

there were things about divergent that were completely unrealistic but i accepted them so that i could enjoy the book. i always thought the factions were silly and reductive and were more like limitations and rules in a game a young child designed. they didn't really make sense, but when you are playing a game with a little kid, you play by their rules or it gets really loud. and as long as you go with the flow and just enjoy the ride without stopping to think "this doesn't really make any sense…" the book is incredibly fun. and so much literature is suspension of disbelief, isn't it?? you accept that in the 1500's there's a potion that can make someone appear to be dead. you accept that a single night of ghostly visitations can change a man's entire character. you accept that a man can put on some costume jewelry and a scarf and pass as a gypsy fortune teller. and that suspension of disbelief is not a problem for me, especially in YA dystopian lit.

but! what allegiant does more or less resolves the problems of the factions and they finally make sense. the explanation raises additional problems, yes, but i really appreciated that something that had been problematic for me from the get-go finally began to become clearer. (view spoiler)

this book is a bit confusing because not only do we have to contend with the dissent between the factions and the factionless, but now we have all-new mirror dissension between the GDs and the GPs and we are asked to keep everything straight in our heads. the fact that these two situations are mirroring each other is a fantastic echo because of the nature of the two communities; that one is supposed to be "better" than the other and yet is still suffering its own internal strife. a little heavy-handed commentary on human nature, you say?? well, certainly, but it still makes for some good action sequences.

it's a fun little journey through the trickiness of science and natural selection and free will and serum after serum after serum. is it 100% convincing?? no, but i think it stays true to the world roth has built, and her characters feel genuine and three-dimensional, and tris is still one of the great characters in YA lit, even though she seems to have gotten a little too textbook superhero in this one, and doesn't have the elements of her character that made her so likable before. like where she was occasionally uncertain, or flat-out wrong. but no matter - she's still a powerhouse.

giving four a voice for the first time in this one (except for those little novellas) is interesting. it shows the disparity between how he appears to others and how he is really feeling. he is so much less certain and capable than what he is broadcasting to the world, and especially to tris. and she comes across as an even stronger character because of this.

(view spoiler)

so, yeah. i liked this. i liked it so much more than that weird bloated and meditative insurgent. i agree with many of the criticisms of the book, but it did not stop me from loving it and applauding it as a perfectly fitting conclusion to the series.



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Reading Progress

October 25, 2013 – Started Reading
October 25, 2013 – Shelved
October 27, 2013 – Finished Reading

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Michelle !!!! Hurry!


karen so you can tell me how bad it is?


Michelle No, so we can talk about it! I'm soooo curious as to what my friends will think about it. JG and I have talked about it at length. We went to the Veronica Roth book signing/reading in SF last night.


karen did you pee on her? i was told you were supposed to pee on her.


Michelle Ha! No, I was nice. She's a doll.


karen i know! she is so... wholesome looking! and sweet!


Michelle It's disarming. I was powerless!
: )


karen hahaha she knew your intentions and she thwarted them!


Monique I've been checking your review page waiting for your review of this. I'm glad it's on its way.


Brian Read this last week. I was really looking forward to it so interested to hear your take on it.


message 11: by Keri (new) - rated it 3 stars

Keri This book so does not deserve the same rating as The Fault in Our Stars. :P


karen ah, but that is not even my favorite john green!

my stars only make sense to myself. they are just "what i am feeling." i have feelings.

i meant to write this review last night. and i got about halfway, but sean was all sick and watching escapist television so i couldn't concentrate. hopefully tonight.


message 13: by Jason (new)

Jason You got a lot of balls posting this review when all the fans are screaming and dying all over the place.


karen pussies, all of 'em.


Paula  Phillips Karen , I agree with your statement as my reviews are like that and I gave Allegiant a 4/5P's and OMG the ending made me tear up and I was like NOOOOOO


message 16: by Erika (new)

Erika I have no intention of reading this book because I really disliked Insurgent, and dropped it. But I'm still curious about how it ends, so I read your spoiler... whaaaaaaat?!!


karen haahahah bad girl!!

i was not a fan of insurgent, really. this one was much better.


message 18: by Adrian (last edited Oct 29, 2013 09:19PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Adrian Bonn Hi Karen, was the tragic ending well-justified? I'm kind of half-hearted whether I will read this final series or not because of too many bad things said about this book


karen i think it was.


message 20: by Eh?Eh! (new)

Eh?Eh! Your favorite thing was all the balls?


karen veronica roth's balls.


message 22: by Keri (new) - rated it 3 stars

Keri I know you liked Paper Towns better. Now THAT was a 4 star book. lol.


message 23: by Keri (new) - rated it 3 stars

Keri Hmmm, I wanted allegiant to give me dark fantastical escape while you wanted it to give you completion. No wonder we don't agree on it. :)


message 24: by Keri (new) - rated it 3 stars

Keri I did love the mother quote from Tobias toward the end that was brilliant.


message 25: by Anna (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anna I liked the ending.


message 26: by [deleted user] (new)

I bought this not yet having read insurgent. The only review I've seen b4 yours was a zero star review. Your rating / review gives me some hope. Thanks for sharing :-)


message 27: by Steph (last edited Oct 30, 2013 08:28PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Steph Sinclair Great review, Karen. (Is it weird if I capitalize your name??)

I'm reading this now and I'm hoping to love it. I ignored a lot of the world building issues in Divergent because I thought it was a fast-paced, fun read. But in Insugent it became hard to ignore because it was such a drag. Too much moping and not enough action forced me to pay unnecessary attention to plot holes. Hopefully I'll have a similar reading experience as you!


pdbkwm I'm surprised I never thought of them being monitored when I first read Divergent and learned about the factions. Something so manufactured had to have been looked at in a consistent basis. I'm glad she tied all those loose ends together.

Great review and I'm glad that the ending didn't ruin the book or series for you.


Bèbè ✦ RANT  ✦ I just bought this last night, can't wait to read it!


message 30: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome So the book has balls.


Michelle karen I thought you were my friend!

Four stars?

*cries*


karen i am your friend!! and i liked this book!! i have bad taste on all fronts!


karen (i love you)


Michelle Hate it with me! Be on my side!


Michelle : )

(I love you too)


message 37: by Gabe (new) - rated it 4 stars

Gabe i agree. v roth's got biiiig balls. and i like it.


message 38: by Caroline (new)

Caroline Bock karen - okay you convinced me I should read this one... I wasn't going to continue with this series!! And all the funny comments...I often wonder if readers think writers should "look" like their books and from everyone's remarks it seems that may be the case?


message 39: by Kait (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kait Balls indeed.


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* I am with you 100% on this one! All the ballsiness aside, I actually found the ending fitting and agree completely with your second spoiler. (view spoiler)


karen yeah, nice try with the foolery, roth....


Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)* LOL, My mom loved the other two books.... I think she may end up being in the hate camp for this one though, we'll see. It's because we're mean, heartless people that we like this book, Karen.


message 43: by n (new) - added it

n This sums it up pretty well.
Also, not sure if anyone has said this yet, but when I saw the ball pit picture I starting singing, "How much can you dooooo, just grab a hold and juggle..."


Janie McMahan I am so sad. I'm not all the way through the book yet, but it didn't seem as good to me as the other 2 so I decided to look on here to see if other reviewers felt the same. So many people on the reviews gave away the huge.... surprise? shock? devastation? Whatever you want to call it, now I know what happens without finding it out myself *sad face*. thank you, karen, for not spoiling the book like everyone else did without at least putting "spoiler" beforehand


karen why didn't goodreads tell me nicole stopped by?? thanks a heap, goodreads! i don't know that song, but it's good to see you round these parts.

oh, and people are way too careless with their reactions to this - that's why i knew i had to read it asap, before it got rooned for me


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n http://youtu.be/PKO350y4GLU — boom.

It's good to be back! It's been a weird few months but here I am, diving back into the waters of Goodreads. So much has happened and I am a little confused, but I'll catch up, maybe.


karen hahaahh oh dumb karen!! i could never understand the words to that song except the chorus. the soundtrack is out now, though, so i should get it.

seriously - you need to be around more. i am thinking about assembling a group of lunatics to try to help make goodreads fun again because this place is abandonment city. you in?


Reggie_Love i read the book. I missed a pit of balls. remind me. I want to remember something fun, lol.


karen oh, i just meant veronica roth had balls. cuz ... you know


Reggie_Love hahhahahaha! That I will give you! I was thinking way too literally! Also, (and it must be done) BAZINGA


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