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Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros
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did not like it
bookshelves: 2023-reads

If I had a million dollars for every cliche in this book, of which there are a multitude, I'd still regret spending $20 on all 498 pages of this mess.


Spoilers to follow :)

Let's start with the worldbuilding!
Now, this book had two things I love dearly: dragons, and an academic setting. Yarros, however, explains almost every element of her world so poorly and sporadically that the entire story feels as though it were concocted page by page. The hierarchy of squadrons and sections and wings is so unnecessarily confusing. The whole "war" going on along the border is so vague, it was obvious from the start that some twist was going to reveal the good guys were actually the bad guys all along. The author's primary method of exposition is dropping pieces of information into conversations that feel forced and completely unnatural. No one talks like that. No one shares information like that.

Now, the writing!
The sentence constructions alone were enough to give me a headache. I can't tell you how many times I had to reread entire paragraphs because of poorly written and run-on sentences. As for the dialogue, let's discuss the fact that everyone talks like it's 2023, despite the medieval setting. I'm not kidding, the female character asks herself at least twice, using these exact words, "Is it toxic that I like this guy even though he can kill me?" Yes. Yes it is. And so is all this internal monologuing. Please, end my suffering. Apart from the sentences and dialogue, the descriptions were severely lacking. Every location felt like a vague impression rather than an actual place. I don't think I've ever encountered a book suffering from white room syndrome quite like this one.

Now for the characters. Oh, the characters.
Starting with the main event, we have frail young Violet who is SO relatable because she's SO clumsy and SO bad at things! Simultaneously, she is SO smart (like smarter than everyone) and SO unique that she gets not one, but TWO dragons to bond with her! And of course, they're both the rarest kind of dragons that exist!!! And naturally, everyone wants her dead for... reasons. But does her life being in danger give her any sense of self control? Absolutely not! She argues with everyone and throws her sass around to both peers and superior officers with little to no consequence. This woman has the survival skills of a fruit fly!! Additionally, her moods go back and forth quicker than an Olympic ping-pong match. First she hates Xaden because he's a traitor. Then she loves Xaden because she decides to trust him. Then she hates Xaden because he's a traitor. I'm expecting the cycle will continue in Book 2. Also, she starts off wanting to be a scribe and gets pissed when she's thrown into the Rider's Quadrant, then she decides she desperately wants to be a Rider because... because? The decision is given hardly any explanation or emotional weight.

And then there's discount Rhsysand. Oh wow, the moody black-haired rebel with tattoos is actually the good guy. Shocking. He's hard on the outside, but a softie on the inside. Groundbreaking. Also, the way that Yarros writes his character from Violet's perspective is downright sickening at times. From the very first scene with him, Violet's internal thoughts about Xaden are grossly objectifying. Everything is about his body, and how hot he is, and how badly she wants to sleep with him. There's an entire scene spanning two pages where Violet and another woman are straight-up ogling shirtless Xaden while he's sparring with another guy. It's disgusting. If the roles were reversed, if a male author wrote about a male character viewing a woman in the same way, heads would be rolling. It's gross, and frankly one of the most disappointing things about this book.

Honestly, none of the other characters were interesting enough to write about. The dragons were fine, and probably the most likeable. Sawyer was the only human I found tolerable. Dain was just annoying, as he was clearly meant to be.

Now, the plot.
The majority of this book was consumed by Violet being horny and a random series of challenges. There was no explanation anywhere of what the academic year would look like, which makes me think the author was just making up more challenges and battles and war games as she went along. All of this, of course, leading up to a real challenge where we find out information that was abundantly obvious from the start. Oh no, the good guys are the bad guys. The bad guys are the good guys. The dead brother is actually alive. I wish I cared about any of this, but I don't because it's been so blatantly obvious since the first chapter. The pacing of this book was tedious in a lot of places because there wasn't really any kind of looming threat beyond the vague allusions to bigger attacks along the border. Nothing in this book surprised me. Nothing came even remotely close. Everything was so over-ridden with cliches and ideas from other books (mainly Divergent, and a little bit of Red Queen with the not-dead-brother ending) that nothing felt original or creative at all.

I have searched earnestly, to the farthest hills on the horizon, for something good in this book. Alas, I return to my homeland empty-handed.

And here's the thing: I so desperately wanted to enjoy this book, which makes it all the more disappointing. If you've made it this far, I want you to know I did not approach this book with the intention of feeling this way. If you enjoyed this book, kudos to you. Feel free to keep on enjoying it. These are just my thoughts and opinions, and I'll content myself to be the cranky grandma of Goodreads if need be. But good heavens, am I glad this is over with.
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Reading Progress

May 5, 2023 – Started Reading
May 5, 2023 – Shelved
May 7, 2023 – Shelved as: 2023-reads
May 7, 2023 – Finished Reading

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Elizabeth This review is fabulous! Thank you. I had to DNF cause my eyes were hurting from rolling them so much. The ridiculous objectifying the enemy (future love interest) while she's about to cross the deadly parapet. Gag.


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Sarah Frohnapfel Agreed. I had to make the decision to change my expectations of what this book was to enjoy it. It’s not game of thrones, but it’s entertaining nonetheless. I still had to stop and take a breath/roll my eyes occasionally, but a different outlook drastically improved my reading experience


Kylaslittlelibrary Ooo first negative review I’ve seen for this one. I personally liked it but I love to see the other side.


Morgan Many Books I definitely had to adjust my expectations after the first chapter, but it’s very in line with Yarros’ other NA military romances. While I also liked it, I totally admit it is probably not a *good* book 🤣


message 5: by GigiReads (new)

GigiReads Everything I suspected! Great review!


message 6: by stardust (new)

stardust You became my favourite person with “discount Rhysand”. These Colleen Hoover-SJM type of books need to STOP and I need the ppl hyping these up to STOP.


message 7: by Kris (new)

Kris Blackburn Thank you for bringing up the objectification. It seems that the moment a male author writes a female character, the knives are out. Yet so many women say that they only like male characters in books if they are written by women. There’s an increasing rise or double standards and objectification in literature written for women that it’s starting to grate. As a man, I’m going to get so much hate for writing this, but I’m just trying to point out what the online book community is leaning towards.


message 8: by Ben (new) - rated it 1 star

Ben Better written than the book.


message 9: by Kat (new) - rated it 1 star

Kat @kris Blackburn i wish i could actually Tag you but i just want you to know, if you ever see this, i completely get where you're coming from, and agree. If it makes you feel any better, i and plenty of others don't take this book seriously at all - and i think we're starting to get tired of all the discount rhysands. I know i am. The way she talks about xaden or whatever in this book made me gag.


message 10: by i_hype_romance (new)

i_hype_romance Well. Another overhyped clock trash rec to avoid like the plague. After getting sucked into trying Icebreaker- which was TERRIBLE IMO- I go straight to the one star reviews before I even consider buying it. Thank you for preserving my bank account! And you had me laughing hysterically at “discount Rhysand “😂 why is this almost every single YA fantasy hero?


message 11: by Ana (new) - rated it 1 star

Ana love the review and i very much agree! it was just a mess of a book.


message 12: by Ana (new) - rated it 1 star

Ana also cackled at the “discount Rhysand”. so true ahahhahs


message 13: by Carol (new) - rated it 1 star

Carol Your description of Xaden is amazing. I didn’t even finish the book past chapter 1, but I could smell a Rhysand rip off from the first few sentences of his introduction. Great review!


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Katie Trettel Discount Rhysand is so true.


Nicole Want to sell your book?


Minnie "This woman has the survival skills of a fruit fly!!" I laughed so hard at this. Even though I enjoyed reading this book, I was disappointed by the cliche characters that I'm starting to see in a lot of these fantasy novels. When I started to read about Xaden, surprisingly Rhysand didn't come to mind but Casteel from the Blood and Ash series. And for me, the sex scenes didn't add anything to the story in my opinion. It was not enough development between them for that. Hopefully the second book will be better.


Rebecca Freeman Best review. Could not agree more!


thelifeofnadiak This is exactly how I think about this book. I am glad to see I am not the only one


Gianna Took all the words out of my mouth, thank you for this


message 20: by Gale (new) - rated it 3 stars

Gale Omg yes. The world building was so weird to me. I was so confused a lot of times and felt so forced. Or maybe I’m just dumb go figure


Katelyn Young DISCOUNT RHYSAND IS SO ACCURATE


SY_books767 DISCOUNT RHYSAND PLS THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS


Katriana Can I buy it off you?!?


message 24: by Bekah (new) - rated it 1 star

Bekah Kurz One: "discount Rhysand" 🤣🤣🤣
Two: I honestly skimmed and skipped over most of the two pages where they were objectifying Xaden because it made me SO uncomfortable. 🤢

I'm just over half-way through and honestly came to Goodreads for some spoiler filled reviews so I can decide whether or not to DNF.
Thank you for your service to my reading journey 🫡


Merides I just posted my review, and yours was so much more articulate and biting than mine. You put all my thoughts down perfectly. Discount Rhysand? More like Discount Azriel. Isn't even worth main male character points.


Icarus I am like 6% into this book and I am reading it ironically after witnessing what the first chapter is like so I want to find the worst scenes in this. Can anyone tell me in what chapter the sparring scene is? I wanna see the absolute worst of this book without actually reading all of it because it'd be a waste of time in my opinion idk man


allisyn Agreeeeed


Arooj You are so right. I mean my insta algorithm keeps flooding with the spoilers so i avoided them and gave it a read. These months i am stuck on fantasy trope so i read this one. I have read like so many fantasy books like acotar, tog(4books) and they were so good but this book was absolutely worst. It said enemies to lover. Where is the enemy part. Like jude and cardan( the cruel pince) that series depicts the classical and true approach to enemies to lover this book just not have the enemies vibe. He helped her every step of the way. This is not the enemy trope. I just couldn't enjoy it. It was 600 pages long after every 50 pages it kept boring me. I tried so hard to like enjoy but couldn't. May be throne of glass set the expectations high for me. But series like hunger games like when u read series like that u enjoy yourself. Good's read review is totally thrashed. I mean even with some of the scenes of violet and xaden i couldn't get excited. Ending was like turnover but the ending could have been so much better. The first book in acotar series is slow pace but i would read it then read this one again. I mean does violet heal and how does she train to be that strong. At first, she had no confidence that she has like all the confidence of the world. No interaction with her mother. She doesnt even think the fact that xaden's parent killed his brother and like starts liking xaden. Which we know at the end but in the story she doesnt seem to think about her mother 's reaction to xaden. She pushed her in the rider's chamber and she couldn't even fight it. Not once i read that my mother wouldn't like xaden or thing like that. Xaden truly played her for sure. As to why i say this because at how the last chapter rolls off. And everyone around her is telling her not to trust him and still she does. I mean throughout the book the author say that she is intelligent yet she couldn't figure how xaden's truth. If she were that intelligent she should have figured it out where xaden's went with his friends when she was hiding in the tree. When she wakes up in the last chapter i am like this foolish girl with love the man all over again even though he did lie to her but she says she will take time to trust him or never a scene like that. I can claim that in the next book within 5 chapters she will love him all over again and forget it even. I just didnt like this Novel and after seeing so many defending and rating it as a top notch i will shift my genre from fantasy to physiological thriller because that troop never lies.


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C Real


message 30: by Aya (new) - rated it 3 stars

Aya Abugharbyeh Omg her begging him to be with her and asking him why he said no for 2 whole chapters!!!!!! Smart girls don’t beg violence


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Trina Picardi Discount Rhysand! Great review


Jessica DISCOUNT RHYSAND HAS ME HOLLERING


Michella Graham Thank you! I was seriously doubting my language/ English skills a lot of times reading this book.

And… The whole “second wing, fourth flame, left of the field, section 3, bisexuals to the left and violet to the right” - build of the squats took me out. I simply stopped caring when they talked about it. 🤣 not to mention the world building (I was constantly looking between the descriptions and the map in the front of the book and still didn’t entirely get it)

Oh.. and the dragons. I loved their sassyness but I would have loved like one or two chapters of bonding with them and getting to know them… we could have traded that for the whole “dragon sex” thing and maybe even some of the mat-scenes☺️


message 34: by Essie (new) - rated it 1 star

Essie Your opening comment: *chef’s kiss*


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GR “Discount Rhysand” 🤣🤣🤣


Manganet This was the review I've been looking for


message 37: by Marta (new)

Marta Montagna Thank you for this! I was thinking of reading it for the booktok, but I had a hunch I couldn't trust it. so thank you for saving my time and money!


Kelsey Ok I feel so much better knowing there are people out there giving this 1 star. Only got 10% into the book and holy shit the cliches.


message 39: by Christine (new)

Christine I’m only part way through chapter 3 and I am CHOKING on all the cliches. Does it get better??


Mandy I am SO glad I’m not the only one who felt this way!


Lina [Aelin's version](hiatus) DISCOUNT RHYSAND LMAOOO YOURE MY NEW BEST FRIEND


message 42: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Faunce I loved the book but discount Rhysand is so funny


message 43: by Sasha (new) - added it

Sasha Totally agree with your opinion


Lindsay Skorny sometimes it’s okay to be wrong 🤷🏼‍♀️


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Anita Thanks for this thorough review. I will not spend that much money on the book


Rachael Cowie Is is a pound shop ACOTAR? absolutely. "Discount Rhysand" really tickled me. It's basically a hefty Mary Sue fanfic


Aaron staples I can see your side of the review. Just died at the discount rhys comment. Can definitely agree there. You know this could be acotar just in the dragon setting


lilly although i liked the book i definitely understand the chiche's. i wasn't utterly obsessed but i'm glad the fantasy genre is catered to people who usually don't read those kinds of books.


message 49: by Bill (new) - rated it 1 star

Bill Potter It's a tedious repetitive yawner.


Dimerellaa So glad I’m not the only one. I have a library card so I actually read the books there first and if I like it I buy it. But this was SO hard to get through. I hated the whole thing


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