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Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst
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The style of presentation, the concept of showing how interconnected everything is and to expand tiny elements of a second to a broad picture of millions of years are amazing, it seems so logical and consistent once one has grasped the importantce of this work, but nobody before Sapolsky mixed so many interdisciplinary approaches together to form such a comprehensive picture.
This travel back in time starts at the moment of any human action and its neurological, neurochemical, hormonal, neuroelectric,... background and what epigenetic and genetic factor made such a behaviour a habit, a personality, a group dynamic, a cultural identity. And then we go far back until primate times and see what might have influenced our current emotion and illusion of ego and self millions of years ago, and take a glimpse at the one or other event that happened between now and then and the mysticismn and theories rotating around those.
Of course it first seems a bit far fetched to go from hormones and neurotransmitters to apes, but the stages of culture, groups, tribes, hierarchies, mating, violence, competition,… are still very dominant in our genes and much we wouldn´t associate with fight or flight or mate and date instinct is permanently conscious and subconscous influencing our mental condition and thinking.
Sapolsky has a unique view, because he studied both primates and humans and can build his theories on hard facts and field studies, he is close to a modern polymath with his fields neuroendicronoly, neurology, neurosurgery, and biological sciences and he covers everything possible.
There is the question of how much of guilt and responsiblity could be linked to and relativated by brain science and how the law should possibly consider using modern techniques to check what´s going on in a criminals mind, but that´s more a philosophical ethics course topic until there is enough evidence to get it integrated in legislation.
We are so individual and unique that our complex, barely understood consciousnesses make it harder to determine what one person is going to do, while it´s becoming easier to predict large scale- and group dynamics thanks to tech. I did always know that my irresponsible and immature behaviour can be surprising, unpredictable, dangerous, and very funny and now I have the theoretical superstructure to substantiate it.
Not to change or something like that, become a better human, mindfulness, meditation and stuff, no, what are you thinking about me, I like my primitive instincts, just because I now know everything about them doesn´t mean that I can´t enjoy living them out. Come on, anger, greed, and horniness, let´s roll.
A wiki walk can be as refreshing to the mind as a walk through nature in this completely overrated real life outside books:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroen...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_e...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evoluti...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...
This travel back in time starts at the moment of any human action and its neurological, neurochemical, hormonal, neuroelectric,... background and what epigenetic and genetic factor made such a behaviour a habit, a personality, a group dynamic, a cultural identity. And then we go far back until primate times and see what might have influenced our current emotion and illusion of ego and self millions of years ago, and take a glimpse at the one or other event that happened between now and then and the mysticismn and theories rotating around those.
Of course it first seems a bit far fetched to go from hormones and neurotransmitters to apes, but the stages of culture, groups, tribes, hierarchies, mating, violence, competition,… are still very dominant in our genes and much we wouldn´t associate with fight or flight or mate and date instinct is permanently conscious and subconscous influencing our mental condition and thinking.
Sapolsky has a unique view, because he studied both primates and humans and can build his theories on hard facts and field studies, he is close to a modern polymath with his fields neuroendicronoly, neurology, neurosurgery, and biological sciences and he covers everything possible.
There is the question of how much of guilt and responsiblity could be linked to and relativated by brain science and how the law should possibly consider using modern techniques to check what´s going on in a criminals mind, but that´s more a philosophical ethics course topic until there is enough evidence to get it integrated in legislation.
We are so individual and unique that our complex, barely understood consciousnesses make it harder to determine what one person is going to do, while it´s becoming easier to predict large scale- and group dynamics thanks to tech. I did always know that my irresponsible and immature behaviour can be surprising, unpredictable, dangerous, and very funny and now I have the theoretical superstructure to substantiate it.
Not to change or something like that, become a better human, mindfulness, meditation and stuff, no, what are you thinking about me, I like my primitive instincts, just because I now know everything about them doesn´t mean that I can´t enjoy living them out. Come on, anger, greed, and horniness, let´s roll.
A wiki walk can be as refreshing to the mind as a walk through nature in this completely overrated real life outside books:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroen...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_e...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evoluti...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...
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Aaaaa I love this guy so much! Where would you rank this with his other books? I'm trying to decide which to read next (I've only read _Zebras_).
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LiLi wrote: "Aaaaa I love this guy so much! Where would you rank this with his other books? I'm trying to decide which to read next (I've only read _Zebras_)."
" Where would you rank this with his other books?"
I´ve just read this one, but because I want to pimp my skills to even better tell people that they´re just pseudo sophisticated (optional dirty if appropriate both as an insult and flirting attempt) animals, I may give one of his other works a try. Still not sure which one, do you have other recommendations or preferences except Zebras?
Not sure if I should choose Biology and Human Behaviour
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
or Testosterone, although I´ve already more than enough of that
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
Thx
" Where would you rank this with his other books?"
I´ve just read this one, but because I want to pimp my skills to even better tell people that they´re just pseudo sophisticated (optional dirty if appropriate both as an insult and flirting attempt) animals, I may give one of his other works a try. Still not sure which one, do you have other recommendations or preferences except Zebras?
Not sure if I should choose Biology and Human Behaviour
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
or Testosterone, although I´ve already more than enough of that
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
Thx
I too enjoy immature behavior at times as it is unpredictable and therefore some think it dangerous just because it is unpredictable.
Joe wrote: "I too enjoy immature behavior at times as it is unpredictable and therefore some think it dangerous just because it is unpredictable."
We´re mentally unstable, instinct driven, pseudo cultivated killer monkeys, I think that everything in us is potentially dangerous.
We´re mentally unstable, instinct driven, pseudo cultivated killer monkeys, I think that everything in us is potentially dangerous.
Oh, Joe! Do you really think it’s unpredictable ? It’s just as predictable as anything else. It is just misdirection, but still predictable. Moo haha.
@Mario, are you planning to flirt with them by singing them that Bloodhound Gang song? :D
_Zebras_ was fantastic. Sadly it's the only Sapolsky I've read so far (although I've watched a few of his YouTubes). I've had my eye on _A Primate's Memoir_ (I think it's one of the earlier books); but as _Behave_ doesn't seem to have a waiting list, maybe I'll jump on that next. The library decides for me!
So I guess I'll have to let you know when I've completed more books?
There are so many pop psychology/pop sociology/fake anthropology nonfiction books out there. I really appreciate that this guy explains the science.
_Zebras_ was fantastic. Sadly it's the only Sapolsky I've read so far (although I've watched a few of his YouTubes). I've had my eye on _A Primate's Memoir_ (I think it's one of the earlier books); but as _Behave_ doesn't seem to have a waiting list, maybe I'll jump on that next. The library decides for me!
So I guess I'll have to let you know when I've completed more books?
There are so many pop psychology/pop sociology/fake anthropology nonfiction books out there. I really appreciate that this guy explains the science.
Shai wrote: "Oh, Joe! Do you really think it’s unpredictable ? It’s just as predictable as anything else. It is just misdirection, but still predictable. Moo haha."
Yes, totally predictable. I do totally know what I or my freaking wacko government will do the next moment.
Muahahaha
Yes, totally predictable. I do totally know what I or my freaking wacko government will do the next moment.
Muahahaha
LiLi wrote: "@Mario, are you planning to flirt with them by singing them that Bloodhound Gang song? :D
_Zebras_ was fantastic. Sadly it's the only Sapolsky I've read so far (although I've watched a few of his ..."
"_Zebras_ was fantastic. "
Now that´s a definitive reading suggestion. Thanks!
"So I guess I'll have to let you know when I've completed more books?!
You definitively should if it´s worth your precious time. I´ll appreciate it.
"There are so many pop psychology/pop sociology/fake anthropology nonfiction books out there. I really appreciate that this guy explains the science"
You mean the terrible pop fringe voodoo humanities discrediting wannabe pseudo Pinker Rosling etc downplaying everything is fine propaganda train? Yes, it´s a mess that pearls like Graeber, Vandana Shiva, Sapolsky, Singer, etc. are completely ignored with a little help of cooptation of all mainstream media.
_Zebras_ was fantastic. Sadly it's the only Sapolsky I've read so far (although I've watched a few of his ..."
"_Zebras_ was fantastic. "
Now that´s a definitive reading suggestion. Thanks!
"So I guess I'll have to let you know when I've completed more books?!
You definitively should if it´s worth your precious time. I´ll appreciate it.
"There are so many pop psychology/pop sociology/fake anthropology nonfiction books out there. I really appreciate that this guy explains the science"
You mean the terrible pop fringe voodoo humanities discrediting wannabe pseudo Pinker Rosling etc downplaying everything is fine propaganda train? Yes, it´s a mess that pearls like Graeber, Vandana Shiva, Sapolsky, Singer, etc. are completely ignored with a little help of cooptation of all mainstream media.
Oh that’s funny! And also scary and serious while still being somewhat true if that was the immature behavior (lots of misdirection) he meant ?
I am sorry to dip in to convos like that. They are just so interesting. I am having a hard time being quiet on the monkey / which books next/ anthropology one. I went to school for anthro. I loved it. Going back for a few classes soon I hope.
I am sorry to dip in to convos like that. They are just so interesting. I am having a hard time being quiet on the monkey / which books next/ anthropology one. I went to school for anthro. I loved it. Going back for a few classes soon I hope.
Shai wrote: "Oh that’s funny! And also scary and serious while still being somewhat true if that was the immature behavior (lots of misdirection) he meant ?
I am sorry to dip in to convos like that. They are j..."
"And also scary and serious while still being somewhat true if that was the immature behavior (lots of misdirection) he meant ?"
We´ll never know, that's a highly subjective one too.
Nothing to be sorry about.
I am sorry to dip in to convos like that. They are j..."
"And also scary and serious while still being somewhat true if that was the immature behavior (lots of misdirection) he meant ?"
We´ll never know, that's a highly subjective one too.
Nothing to be sorry about.
Mario the lone bookwolf wrote: "LiLi wrote: "@Mario, are you planning to flirt with them by singing them that Bloodhound Gang song? :D
_Zebras_ was fantastic. Sadly it's the only Sapolsky I've read so far (although I've watched ..."
Yes, indeed, Rosling and Pinker are two I had in mind.
_Zebras_ was fantastic. Sadly it's the only Sapolsky I've read so far (although I've watched ..."
Yes, indeed, Rosling and Pinker are two I had in mind.
LiLi wrote: "Mario the lone bookwolf wrote: "LiLi wrote: "@Mario, are you planning to flirt with them by singing them that Bloodhound Gang song? :D
_Zebras_ was fantastic. Sadly it's the only Sapolsky I've rea..."
That what they´re driveling is the mainstream media dogma, is a reason why I´ve stopped consuming news about politics and economics. Just ridiculous.
_Zebras_ was fantastic. Sadly it's the only Sapolsky I've rea..."
That what they´re driveling is the mainstream media dogma, is a reason why I´ve stopped consuming news about politics and economics. Just ridiculous.