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Mythos by Stephen Fry
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it was amazing

I first heard of Stephen Fry many years ago, have since watched him debate with the Church and wander through dense jungles trying to find nearly extinct animals, listened to him bring one of my favourite magical worlds to life, and learned a great deal from him on what must be one of the best quiz shows on (British) television. Not to mention his influence on LGBTQ rights and the acceptance of mental health issues (he himself is suffering from at least one). He's been on radio programs, television shows, and in movies. He knows so much about almost everything, out of a natural curiosity, and had a very ... interesting ... childhood/life so far.
In short: the man is a national and international treasure and I'm a total fangirl. *swoons* Naturally, he is not without fault, but that - in a very ironic twist of fate - makes him so PERFECT a man to retell the Ancient Greek Myths.

After all, if one looks at all the groups of gods from around the world and all kinds of eras, they are all flawed - but none more so than the Greeks with all their debaucheries (and, by extent, the Roman ones but they are mostly a copy of the Greek pantheon anyway).

Funnily enough, the publication of Mythos this year coincides (and I'm told it really was a coincidence albeit a fortunate one) with the publication of Gaiman's retelling of the Norse myths. Thus, I now have TWO wonderful tomes detailing the essentials of two cultural influences on what is nowadays Europe (the name itself was taken from Greek mythology).

The Greek culture (city states, first democracy, the victory over the Persians and thus what would later become a big part of Islam, their type of warfare, ...) is the root of almost all the European countries today and one can see it in many instances. Moreover, the Greek pantheon is probably the most well-known one. Many artists have immortalized the birth of Aphrodite (Venus) or the love between Amor and Psyche or Apollo driving his sun chariot across the sky or Zeus imprisoning the Titans.
As is also typical for mythology, the myths explained seemingly unexplainable happenings back in the day while the gods showed the characteristics one could observe in any human.

Fry cannot retell ALL the myths that have survived, of course, but he managed the almost Herculean task (see what I did there? :P) of selecting the ones for his book perfectly and not only bringing the myths to life with his incomparable voice (I listened to the audio because I can never resist the man), but to also retell the stories in a way that is simultaneously modern and tasteful - which makes this book so appealing. He seamlessly weaves in references to pop culture, literature and music (modern and classic) and modern politics, explains linguistic roots as well as the naming of many a constellation and elements and therefore gives a detailed but never boring lesson about why the Greek myths matter so much, even to this day. In doing so, he gives us a history of ourselves, where we come from, what shaped us.

We start at the beginning, the creation myth (from Chaos to order) and then move on to the Titans.

From there, it's only a small step to Zeus and his siblings overthrowing their parental generation and establishing/ruling Olympus and Hades, after which we humans are created. After that, the fun really begins! We are being introduced to the muses (after one of which - Thalia - I was named),

monsters, heroes, gods, demi-gods, nymphs, centaurs, satyrs and all the rest that make up this colorful and vivid world.
We learn about family relations, rewards and punishments (often it isn't even clear what is what). We learn about the comical stuff as much as about the drama, the wonderful stories as much as the horrible ones. Naturally, it will come as no surprise to anyone who has ever heard a Greek myth that most catastrophes are started by the Olympians getting up to no good (often in form of raping an immortal of some kind or a man or a women - female and male gods alike were quite indifferent to whether or not you wanted to be their consorts). The message clearly being that as a mortal you could only lose (even rape victims were the blamed parties and got punished by other, jealous, gods). What is the most interesting and satisfying aspect about this, however, is how timeless these stories are and how much they still translate to modern problems (believe it or not, the rape or seduction was often only the beginning, setting the stage to a whole world of other plots). I guess we haven't evolved all that much after all.

Neil Gaiman was asked, after the publication of his book about Norse myths, if he would do another one about a different pantheon and he declined, saying that the Norse mythology was where his heart lay and any work about any other would therefore not be adequate. I firmly believe it's the same with Stephen Fry and Greek mythology (although greedy little bookworm as I am, I do want moremoremore).

I cannot recommend this book enough as it is as vibrant as the Greek pantheon itself and Fry is not only very knowledgeable in the myths themselves but also in languages (that were greatly influenced by these myths) and history in general and you can feel the author's passion for these myths, his enthusiasm therefore being infectious. Moreover, he has a unique way of knowing just when and how to make you laugh, giving the overall retelling a lightness despite the heaviness of some stories.
I am both enchanted and delighted and would even recommend this book before one of the classic sources like Bullfinch (in fact, I hope very much that THIS will also become one such classic over time).
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Reading Progress

June 30, 2017 – Shelved
June 30, 2017 – Shelved as: to-read
November 4, 2017 – Started Reading
November 4, 2017 –
7.0% "BWAHAHAHAHA! This is another retelling of ancient myths and therefore Fry made sure they'd me approachable and it's hilarious (he knows just when and how much humour to put in with the trademark drama).
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November 4, 2017 –
25.0% "


I have to admit that the most impressive one so far - in outfoxing her father in such an innocent and funny way - is Artemis."
November 6, 2017 –
55.0% "*sighs contently* One of my favourite of all the Greek myths.

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November 7, 2017 –
75.0% "
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November 8, 2017 – Finished Reading

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Trish We have a cover and it's so pretty (simple but spot-on and beautiful):



Trish Yup, it was released at the beginning of November and I just HAD to have it. :D


Bradley Great review! I'll get to it in a few days!


The Lion's Share Awesome, this is on my audio list as well. You reckon audio or paperback?


Trish Bradley wrote: "Great review! I'll get to it in a few days!"

Great! And I bet you‘ll enjoy this too. He ends it with Midas and his asse‘s ears.


Trish Cheese wrote: "Awesome, this is on my audio list as well. You reckon audio or paperback?"

I have the printed version just because I can‘t resist with mythology - and because I was lucky enough to grab a SIGNED COPY on Waterstones (imagine: I‘m touching a book Stephen Fry has touched *swoons*) but I do recommend the audio version as he is an impeccable narrator too.


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Trish I should also say that there is no retelling of the Trojan War, Herakles, Perseus, Theseus and other too-well-known heroes in here. That, as Fry commented in the epilogue, would have been too much (making the book too thick). I like that he also doesn‘t try to interpret the myths but instead just treats them as great stories that every reader should interpret as he/she wants. As he says: it‘s all about pleasure and enjoyment.

And in order to further educate us (on top of the side-notes within the narrative line itself), the epilogue also talks about the differences between myths, legends, and (historical) accounts (even cults and religion) as well as giving an overview over Greek culture and the country (Asia Minor, Syria, North Africa and all parts that mean „Greece“ in the context of the mythology) in general.

Moreover, on top of my all-time favourite of Amor and Psyche, I have another one that I liked considerably when reading this book: Baucis and Philomena, the old couple being poor but still sharing all they have with two travellers as the laws of hospitality demand. One of the few stories that end „well“ so to speak and stands for faithfulness and eternal love.


MJ Codename: ♕Duchess♕ If you haven't watched it yet, you really need to find QI. There is/was a channel on youtube that had all the episodes, both the short versions and the extended. I haven't watched it in a few years and I know Fry doesn't host in anymore, but it's hilarious.
Every season is a letter of the alphabet and Alan Davies is the most adorable person on the planet.


Trish QI is the quiz show I was referring to in my review. ;) I love QI but don‘t know if I‘ll watch the new stuff now that he isn‘t hosting it anymore - he gave the whole thing a certain level on top of the hilarious nature of the show itself.


Cathy You didn't mention ABOFAL, have you watched it? It's a must... ;)


Trish Cathy (cathepsut) wrote: "You didn't mention ABOFAL, have you watched it? It's a must... ;)"

Not completely, no. I know a few excerpts, but (sadly) not the rest.


Cathy There are tons of epsiodes on youtube, it's worth to have a look...

https://youtu.be/GVbBU4rlNnE


Trish Cathy (cathepsut) wrote: "There are tons of epsiodes on youtube, it's worth to have a look...

https://youtu.be/GVbBU4rlNnE"


I know ... with everything I want to watch and am supposed to watch, I just need to find the time. ;)


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Stephen Great review and love the gifs from one of my favorite Disney movies. Gifs are from my favorite part of the movie. Loved the artwork. And James Woods was perfect as Hades.

Re the book: Yes Fry is the best!


Trish Well, I couldn't resist to use such colourful gifs to illustrate the silly fun of the myths. :)


Kitty Yes, the cover design is amazing! Loved the sparing use of gold in the fonts and the illustration. (Not too much, as the Greeks would say?)


Trish Here is a great interview of Stephen Fry for/with Waterstones in November 2017 that I discovered only now. I love how he's able to project the old myths onto modern events: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjFoN...

For further information on his outlook on the internet, modern inventions and technology (no, not like a typical grumpy old man bemoaning the "good old days"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Jjx...


Dennis Those youtube videos are kinda familiar, fangirl. ;)


Trish Dennis wrote: "Those youtube videos are kinda familiar, fangirl. ;)"

*lol* Well, you're not the only one I want to let participate in the fun! Have you watched any of them yet?


Dennis Both, actually :)


Trish Dennis wrote: "Both, actually :)"

Cool! Did you enjoy them?


Dennis It was certainly interesting, yes.


Trish Dennis wrote: "It was certainly interesting, yes."

HA!


Cathy Mentioning how you know Fry, you never mention ABOFAL. Do you know it? If not, you should look it up.


Trish I do know A Bit of Fry and Laurie and loved it. Though I haven't seen all of the episodes. One of my favourites was the vet. Though the cheese shop was hilarious as well. I love both of them so that series basically is perfect for me. Maybe I should try to find the DVDs.


Cathy A lot of them are on youtube as well.


Trish Yes and I've fallen down that rabbit hole already (it's how I know all the episodes that I do know). 😂 🙈


Cathy Now that I DNFd my current audio, I thought about getting Mythos as audio. But I am really not a big fan of Greek mythology...


Dennis I will probably start with the audio today.


Trish Cathy wrote: "Now that I DNFd my current audio, I thought about getting Mythos as audio. But I am really not a big fan of Greek mythology..."

That might be a problem. *loool*


Trish Dennis wrote: "I will probably start with the audio today."

The audio is superb, as I mentioned in my review, but I'm glad I also have a print copy.


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Cherie Brilliant & superb review Trish!


Trish Thank you - it's a brilliant and superb book!


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Cat You do realize that your comment about the Greeks having "victory over the Persians and thus Islam" makes no sense, yes? The Greco-Persian War(s) were well within BCE, and Islam did not come about until almost 1,000 years after.


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Trish Cat wrote: "You do realize that your comment about the Greeks having "victory over the Persians and thus Islam" makes no sense, yes? The Greco-Persian War(s) were well within BCE, and Islam did not come about ..."

610 to be precise. I do know my history, no worries. But it does make sense if you look at Islamic states and their cultural development. The title might have changed and become a blanket what had before been more of a mosaic, but it's the same strand. The socio-political make-up, I mean.
I rephrased my statement in the review though, to make it more clear.


Sud666 " Stephen Fry many years ago, have since watched him debate with the Church "

ohh that sounds interesting..can I find that on youtube?


Trish Sud666 wrote: "" Stephen Fry many years ago, have since watched him debate with the Church "

ohh that sounds interesting..can I find that on youtube?"


Ask and you shall receive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRcY...


Sud666 Trish wrote: "Sud666 wrote: "" Stephen Fry many years ago, have since watched him debate with the Church "

ohh that sounds interesting..can I find that on youtube?"

Ask and you shall receive: https://www.youtu..."


https://www.rd.com/wp-content/uploads...


Sud666 Trish wrote: "Sud666 wrote: "" Stephen Fry many years ago, have since watched him debate with the Church "

ohh that sounds interesting..can I find that on youtube?"

Ask and you shall receive: https://www.youtu..."


Watched it..pretty good..thanks. Fry and Hitchen's won *l*


Sud666 Here as payback you might like tis channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/GreatMus...

I'm going to check it out


Trish Sud666 wrote: "https://www.rd.com/wp-content/uploads..."

I know. ;)

And of course they won. They are Fry and Hitchens! But I found it much more worrisome that a woman was arguing FOR the Catholic Church.

Interesting channel!


Sud666 Trish wrote: "Sud666 wrote: "https://www.rd.com/wp-content/uploads..."

I know. ;)

And of course they won. They are Fry and Hitchens! But I found it much more worrisome that a woman was arguing FOR the Catholic..."


"that a woman was arguing FOR the Catholic Church."

ummm really? women argue FOR Islam for Pope's sake!


Trish Sud666 wrote: "ummm really? women argue FOR Islam for Pope's sake!"

I shouldn't be surprised. There are a number of German women voluntarily wearing burqas. *sighs*


Sud666 Trish wrote: "Sud666 wrote: "ummm really? women argue FOR Islam for Pope's sake!"

I shouldn't be surprised. There are a number of German women voluntarily wearing burqas. *sighs*"


*snifflles* you might look fetching in a burqa!


Trish Fuck you.


Sud666 Trish wrote: "Fuck you."

*lol* ok no burqa for you..but you will like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW8ED...


Sud666 hmmm GR is so weird..it says you commented on this and two others but all I see is my last post from 10 hours ago....*rolls eyes* so sorry have no clue what you said...I'm probably missing all sorts of posts and stuff *sigh* I wish they;d fix their site instead of adding new dumb shit


Trish Sud666 wrote: "Trish wrote: "Fuck you."

*lol* ok no burqa for you..but you will like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW8ED..."


I accept you begging my forgiveness in such a humble fashion. But only because I'm magnanimous.

And I've been to the Vatikan (incl. the museum). But the idea of virtual vacations when you can't go on real ones IS fun.


Trish Sud666 wrote: "hmmm GR is so weird..it says you commented on this and two others but all I see is my last post from 10 hours ago....*rolls eyes* so sorry have no clue what you said...I'm probably missing all sort..."

No, I'm getting old notifications as well and often no new ones. I agree about them needing to get a grip. Alas, they don't listen to either you or me.


Dennis Sud666 wrote: "hmmm GR is so weird..it says you commented on this and two others but all I see is my last post from 10 hours ago....*rolls eyes* so sorry have no clue what you said...I'm probably missing all sort..."

That's the feedback I should have given them on the new design they are testing. "Fix your site instead of adding new dumb shit."


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