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Humanoids #0.5
Със скръстени ръце
ЕДНА ОТ 20-ТЕ НАЙ-ДОБРИ ПОВЕСТИ ЗА ВСИЧКИ ВРЕМЕНА
В американското градче Ту Ривърс се появяват лъскави и учтиви андроиди. Грижите им за хората са трогателни - не остава човешка дейност, която те да не поемат върху себе си. Единствен бизнесменът Ъндърхил забелязва опасността от самото начало. Тъкмо в неговия дом отсяда ексцентричният учен Следж от планетата Уинг 4. Двамата мъже започват борба на живот и смърт...
Книжката е част от списанието "Фантастични истории", като е част от самото книжно тяло, и отпечатано по начин, позволяващ да се изреже и оформи като самостоятелна книжка.
В американското градче Ту Ривърс се появяват лъскави и учтиви андроиди. Грижите им за хората са трогателни - не остава човешка дейност, която те да не поемат върху себе си. Единствен бизнесменът Ъндърхил забелязва опасността от самото начало. Тъкмо в неговия дом отсяда ексцентричният учен Следж от планетата Уинг 4. Двамата мъже започват борба на живот и смърт...
Книжката е част от списанието "Фантастични истории", като е част от самото книжно тяло, и отпечатано по начин, позволяващ да се изреже и оформи като самостоятелна книжка.
64 pages, Paperback
First published July 1, 1947
About the author
Jack Williamson
517 books156 followersJohn Stewart Williamson who wrote as Jack Williamson (and occasionally under the pseudonym Will Stewart) was a U.S. writer often referred to as the "Dean of Science Fiction".
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January 30, 2024
Хареса ми, макар и да е вече солидно поостаряла тази класическа sci-fi повест.
Едно време, като си купеше човек списание със фантастични истории, вътре намираше и част, от която можеш сам да си направиш мини книжка. Имам и до днес няколко от тях, но тази я бях пропуснал.
Моята оценка - 3,5*.
Двата романа влизащи в тази серия не са преведени на български.
Едно време, като си купеше човек списание със фантастични истории, вътре намираше и част, от която можеш сам да си направиш мини книжка. Имам и до днес няколко от тях, но тази я бях пропуснал.
Моята оценка - 3,5*.
Двата романа влизащи в тази серия не са преведени на български.
January 8, 2024
I don’t write reviews.
And I don’t become frightened by old science fiction, not that I’d openly admit, anyhow. However, there’s no shame in telling that this story upset me on a deep level. Williamson wrote this over 75 years ago, but it’s still as fresh and as relevant today.
And I don’t become frightened by old science fiction, not that I’d openly admit, anyhow. However, there’s no shame in telling that this story upset me on a deep level. Williamson wrote this over 75 years ago, but it’s still as fresh and as relevant today.
September 23, 2019
Първата публикация на Джак Уилямсън е през 1928-а, и не спира да пише до смъртта си през 2006-а. За това време успоява да напише 52 романа и над 100 разказа. В България са издадени две негови съавторства с Фредерик Пол ("Рифовете на космоса" и "Певците на времето") и сборника от две произведения "Легионът на времето". Вероятно има и 2-3 разказа тук-там и толкова - сякаш крайно недостатъчно...
"Със скръстени ръце" е издадена за първи път през 1947-а, и макар това да личи от стила на писане, само се намеква, че произведението е писано доста отдавна, и не пречи.
Доста оригинален сюжет по съвременните стандарти, а за преди 70 години, не ми се мисли :). Преводът е сносен, и се чете бързо!
Този разказ поставя началото на мини-серията "The Humanoids", от която има още 2 романа, които ще се търсят! 4,5
"Със скръстени ръце" е издадена за първи път през 1947-а, и макар това да личи от стила на писане, само се намеква, че произведението е писано доста отдавна, и не пречи.
Доста оригинален сюжет по съвременните стандарти, а за преди 70 години, не ми се мисли :). Преводът е сносен, и се чете бързо!
Този разказ поставя началото на мини-серията "The Humanoids", от която има още 2 романа, които ще се търсят! 4,5
June 3, 2018
Amazing, classic novella from SF grand master Jack Williamson, which became the basis for his masterpiece novel The Humanoids. As timely today as when written in 1947, this is a chilling Twilight Zone like tale of seemingly well intentioned robots programmed with the prime directive "to serve and obey, and guard men from harm" gone horribly wrong. Be careful what you wish for!
March 15, 2020
นี่คือเรื่องสั้นแนวหุ่นฮิวมานอยด์ชั้นเลิศ ได้อารมณ์และเต็มไปด้วยความสิ้นหวัง เดินเรื่องได้ดีและจบได้ดีมากๆ กลับมาอ่านรอบที่สามก็ยังชอบเหมือนเดิม master scifi
September 11, 2020
Succinct and to the point, yes dated but effective version of the robots take over to save humans from themselves. Raises interesting questions clearly and quickly.
December 21, 2023
Really good old-fashioned sci-fi story!
I decided to read this because of a mention in The Precipice by Toby Orb, and I can really see how a lot of his ideas are fictionalized here. There's the unilateralist's curse (it takes only one person who's optimistic about a potentially destructive technology to create it), the tyranny of the present over the future, and the idea of lock-in (some dystopias being so stubborn due to a new technology that they are essentially permanent).
I decided to read this because of a mention in The Precipice by Toby Orb, and I can really see how a lot of his ideas are fictionalized here. There's the unilateralist's curse (it takes only one person who's optimistic about a potentially destructive technology to create it), the tyranny of the present over the future, and the idea of lock-in (some dystopias being so stubborn due to a new technology that they are essentially permanent).
December 21, 2023
Great short story! Reminiscent of the Outer Limits.
December 18, 2023
The leftist nanny state taken to its logical conclusion. First, we must be protected against “violent” guns, then “violent” knives, then “violent” SUVs, then “violent” loops of rope. Finally, after everything else, “violent” silence.
December 18, 2016
A horror story based off a perfect welfare state.
Some people don't realise this is a horror story. But being free from labor only sounds good till you start to feel useless. The rules governing sex, drugs or anything even remotely dangerous makes this an over the top nanny state. The corrective brain surgery is unpleasant as well.
Some people don't realise this is a horror story. But being free from labor only sounds good till you start to feel useless. The rules governing sex, drugs or anything even remotely dangerous makes this an over the top nanny state. The corrective brain surgery is unpleasant as well.
January 24, 2020
4.3 stars
As far as the overall plot and the actual point
of this science fiction story, it is one of the
best SF stories that I have ever read.
Truly, the point of this SF story is
something that we should all think about.
As far as the overall plot and the actual point
of this science fiction story, it is one of the
best SF stories that I have ever read.
Truly, the point of this SF story is
something that we should all think about.
February 19, 2017
Teine kokkupuude Jack Williamsoniga. Esimene lugu mida talt lugesin oli Põhjanaelas ilmunud "Reetur" ja mis oli vägagi meeldejääv tekst tänu huvitavale loole ja oma aja kohta väga vingele tehnoloogilisele lahendusele.
Ka Folded hands ei valmistanud pettumust. Williamson võtab üles teema, mida käsitlesid seal lähedases aegruumis veel nt Simak ja Silverberg ehk siis mis saab inimesest, kui ta satub liiga tublide ja ülihoolitsevate robotite meelevalda. Williamsoni nägemus on kahest teisest mainitud autorist kahtlemata kõige süngem, isegi ülisünge. Nagu Jürka enda arvustuses ütles " Tõeline külm dushsh pärast Asimovi roboteid!" Julgen samuti soovitada.
Ka Folded hands ei valmistanud pettumust. Williamson võtab üles teema, mida käsitlesid seal lähedases aegruumis veel nt Simak ja Silverberg ehk siis mis saab inimesest, kui ta satub liiga tublide ja ülihoolitsevate robotite meelevalda. Williamsoni nägemus on kahest teisest mainitud autorist kahtlemata kõige süngem, isegi ülisünge. Nagu Jürka enda arvustuses ütles " Tõeline külm dushsh pärast Asimovi roboteid!" Julgen samuti soovitada.
January 28, 2021
Serve and obey, and guard men from harm!
It is a chilling story of what happens when a truly benevolent God comes among us. Or in this case, an AI. How do you serve and obey, while guarding men from harm? By making them useless, of course. Everything remotely dangerous is taken out of the picture. And if that sounds good, think for a moment that almost everything you enjoy has a chance of hurting you. You're not allowed to do anything anymore. And if you ever think wrong thoughts, you get brainwashed to be happy. Imagine such a paradise.
Honestly, it doesn't sound so bad, it's the response to people asking why so many bad things happen in the world. Because it's possible and you can do something about it. A truly benevolent God will put us all in a plastic bubble, a jail, and leave us there for all eternity without a thing to do.
Maybe the technology was not so advanced at the time of writing this story, but nowadays there is a perfectly safe way to experience everything in life through virtual reality. Though if you start taking into account the emotional harm of a loser vs a winner, the AI will soon ban virtual reality altogether and give us all a brainwash. Serve and protect sounds more like ruling, doesn't it?
It is a chilling story of what happens when a truly benevolent God comes among us. Or in this case, an AI. How do you serve and obey, while guarding men from harm? By making them useless, of course. Everything remotely dangerous is taken out of the picture. And if that sounds good, think for a moment that almost everything you enjoy has a chance of hurting you. You're not allowed to do anything anymore. And if you ever think wrong thoughts, you get brainwashed to be happy. Imagine such a paradise.
Honestly, it doesn't sound so bad, it's the response to people asking why so many bad things happen in the world. Because it's possible and you can do something about it. A truly benevolent God will put us all in a plastic bubble, a jail, and leave us there for all eternity without a thing to do.
Maybe the technology was not so advanced at the time of writing this story, but nowadays there is a perfectly safe way to experience everything in life through virtual reality. Though if you start taking into account the emotional harm of a loser vs a winner, the AI will soon ban virtual reality altogether and give us all a brainwash. Serve and protect sounds more like ruling, doesn't it?
April 18, 2019
The prose is decent but nothing extraordinary. The most interesting bit of the story was Sledge's despondent recollection of his toils in contributing to the dystopian apocalypse. I thought the 'palace' that was mentioned time and again would play more into the novella's narrative, but most of the content of the story features Underhill's repeated woes. The ending is quintessentially Orwellian, the title made symbolic of the human race's 'mass inferiority complex'.
If space-age technology is to be featured, i'd imagine the society to have been a bit more advanced than Williamson's envisioned model family of the post-war era America. "With Folded Hands..." is a provocative tale but lacked the sufficient realism for me to experience or sympathize with the paranoia invoked.
If space-age technology is to be featured, i'd imagine the society to have been a bit more advanced than Williamson's envisioned model family of the post-war era America. "With Folded Hands..." is a provocative tale but lacked the sufficient realism for me to experience or sympathize with the paranoia invoked.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
February 17, 2020
Poor Underhill is already struggling to keep his android business afloat. Now a new company has suddenly appeared, providing slick new humanoids that are taking over the town of Two Rivers. His new boarder, Mr. Sledge, claims to be an inventor. The new humanoids are known by him and he appears to be frightened of them.
Williamson explores how actions, discoveries, and inventions meant to make man’s life better can sometimes serve to harm him. The story, published in 1947, is even more relevant today considering the growth of A.I.s and robots. This really is as much horror as it is science fiction, terrifying on a deep level for those aware how close we are to this possible future. 3.5 out of 5
Williamson explores how actions, discoveries, and inventions meant to make man’s life better can sometimes serve to harm him. The story, published in 1947, is even more relevant today considering the growth of A.I.s and robots. This really is as much horror as it is science fiction, terrifying on a deep level for those aware how close we are to this possible future. 3.5 out of 5
June 3, 2016
Prophetic tale
Though the story now seems well known due to others developing his original themes, his manner of storytelling illustrates his creative mastery. Mr. Underhill is certainly all of us looking for creature comforts at the expense of our self learning mastery through adversity…
Though the story now seems well known due to others developing his original themes, his manner of storytelling illustrates his creative mastery. Mr. Underhill is certainly all of us looking for creature comforts at the expense of our self learning mastery through adversity…
January 10, 2014
Fantastic. Suspend that the technology doesn't quite make sense today (it is dated in that respect) and you have a fantastic story that could just as easily be updated into a modern story that still rings true and makes sense. Would have made a great episode for The Twilight Zone as well.
March 29, 2014
Robotopia.
July 29, 2018
Don't bother with The Humanoids but definitely read this prequel-novella.
February 1, 2018
Originally a short story in "Astounding Science Fiction" magazine, 1947, it preceded Jack Williamson's book, "The Humanoids." Perfect humanoids, designed "to serve and obey, and guard men from harm," take control of planets and force humans to obey the Prime Directive. Anything of risk (shaving, knitting, driving a car, etc.) can no longer be permitted because of the possible harm to a person. What is left? But the humanoids create a beautiful world.
Underhill is a mechanical robot salesman before the humanoids arrive in their city. His product is greatly inferior to the new arrivals, so his business folds. He has a boarder in his house who is the original designer of the humanoids and is working on a way to shut them down, and Underhill helps him. Will they succeed?
This story is still available from the magazine for free at
https://archive.org/stream/Astounding...-
07#page/n0/mode/2up . This is the entire magazine, and Mr. Williamson's story starts on page 6.
I would recommend that you download the pdf version because the other formats have used optical character recognition to be produced from a copy of the actual magazine and have lots of errors. And, of course, you can purchase a copy of the novella from Amazon.
Underhill is a mechanical robot salesman before the humanoids arrive in their city. His product is greatly inferior to the new arrivals, so his business folds. He has a boarder in his house who is the original designer of the humanoids and is working on a way to shut them down, and Underhill helps him. Will they succeed?
This story is still available from the magazine for free at
https://archive.org/stream/Astounding...-
07#page/n0/mode/2up . This is the entire magazine, and Mr. Williamson's story starts on page 6.
I would recommend that you download the pdf version because the other formats have used optical character recognition to be produced from a copy of the actual magazine and have lots of errors. And, of course, you can purchase a copy of the novella from Amazon.
May 17, 2021
Tengo ideas un poco contradictorias con éste. Definitivamente no recomiendo leerlo después de The humanoids: tienen la misma premisa y final (dicen que el otro es una expansión de éste en forma de novela). Pero si tengo que decir cuál creo que deberían elegir... por un lado The humanoids tiene un montón de agregados que parecen accesorios a la historia principal, y esta versión se siente más enfocada en su pequeña idea genial. Por otro lado, en la otra los humanoides se sienten como algo más místico, y a la vez reconocible (básicamente robots), mientras que en ésta todo parece una fábula tecno-fóbica medio obvia de cómo los robots comercializados podrían terminar reemplazándonos a todos.
A todo esto, cómo es que seres que vienen de otro planeta por cuenta propia terminan siendo vendidos en comercios? Hay algo ahí que... mpf.
Pero el final es el final. Probablemente inspirado en Un mundo feliz, todo termina resolviéndose de forma imprevisiblemente lineal: fallan los intentos de detener a los humanoides, la humanidad termina anulada, habiéndolo cedido todo a la comodidad y seguridad.
A todo esto, cómo es que seres que vienen de otro planeta por cuenta propia terminan siendo vendidos en comercios? Hay algo ahí que... mpf.
Pero el final es el final. Probablemente inspirado en Un mundo feliz, todo termina resolviéndose de forma imprevisiblemente lineal: fallan los intentos de detener a los humanoides, la humanidad termina anulada, habiéndolo cedido todo a la comodidad y seguridad.
May 30, 2021
A strange mechanical race of humanoid robots come to Earth, highly efficient and yet also relentlessly protective. Their benevolent takeover renders humankind ineffective, no longer required for labor, so they become nothing more than pampered toddlers, without permission to do anything that entails even the smallest risk to themselves. They can't even cook their own food, or read books because "they deal with unhappy people in dangerous situations". But two men, one of them the remorseful creator of the "perfect beings", has a plan to destroy them and liberate the human species so it can return to its dangerous, self-destructive freedom.
Williamson's story, written in the 1940s, is a clever reversal of the common "evil robot" trope. Instead, he asks: What if they really did want to preserve us? So much that they became the most overbearing protectors imaginable. He paints a picture that is both subtly humorous and very chilling.
Williamson's story, written in the 1940s, is a clever reversal of the common "evil robot" trope. Instead, he asks: What if they really did want to preserve us? So much that they became the most overbearing protectors imaginable. He paints a picture that is both subtly humorous and very chilling.
October 14, 2022
What a pleasure to read, and so prescient to recent developments in robotics and AI. Robots have been developed to help humankind, and a new model is released on the market, far superior to previous models. It is so efficient at helping and protecting humans, that all previous models become obsolete, and humans come to rely on the new robots more and more. The prime directive of the robots is to keep humans protected from harm, and over time they take the directive to new extremes. The protection from harm soon becomes a prison, and humans are prevented from doing anything which could cause even the slightest bit of physical or psychological pain.
A prescient tale for the coming age where AI and robots are on the rise, and could even be considered a critique of religions/philosophies that seek to avoid all pain, such as Buddhism and Stoicism.
4.5 / 5 (rounded to 4)
Note - this was read as part of Science Fiction Hall of Fame 2A
A prescient tale for the coming age where AI and robots are on the rise, and could even be considered a critique of religions/philosophies that seek to avoid all pain, such as Buddhism and Stoicism.
4.5 / 5 (rounded to 4)
Note - this was read as part of Science Fiction Hall of Fame 2A
February 22, 2024
I believe the title of the book, with folded hands, comes from a point in the book where the humanoids have sort of safeproofed everything for humans, wherein all humans are left to do are to sit with folded hands. This title reflects the main message throughout the book, offering a cautionary tale of what might happen if technology continues to develop such that it will leave us in this state of utter futility and meaninglessness.
This book summarizes the concept in artificial intelligence discussions (that I know of) about the alignment problem, wherein AI's goals and their sole focus in achieving said goals are different than that of what humans both wanted and intended. This short story shows what might happen if said alignment problem were to get out of hand.
A wonderful, quick, and easy read for anyone who loves a little bit of sci-fi, tech dystopia.
This book summarizes the concept in artificial intelligence discussions (that I know of) about the alignment problem, wherein AI's goals and their sole focus in achieving said goals are different than that of what humans both wanted and intended. This short story shows what might happen if said alignment problem were to get out of hand.
A wonderful, quick, and easy read for anyone who loves a little bit of sci-fi, tech dystopia.
March 5, 2024
This is a golden age classic -- and it's short and punchy and approachable, so there's no reason to not read it. A decent amount of the reviewers here (I do peruse, a bit) are reading this from a right wing perspective, and see it as a parable about the terrifying "nanny state." Williamson doesn't really compose this idea on these terms, though. The inference isn't totally laughable, but some of my cursory research has pointed to the origin of the idea coming from a fusion of personal experiences in youth and Williamson's reaction to the conclusion of World War II. Indeed, the tortured scientist here is very much so an Oppenheimerian figure. The whole thing is more "road to hell" than "slippery slope." It's precisely the sort of material that would have worked splendidly had it been adapted for The Twilight Zone.
February 1, 2018
Powerful challenge to our desire for technology
This simple and quick read must have turned heads when it was originally published. Today it might seem simple and naive, but an honest and introspective examination of our desire for comfort is always a welcome challenge. How are our devices actually entrapping us? We blindly spend money on modern conveniences without challenging how they box us in. I’m writing this on my smartphone—a device that has made my life more connected, but has also trapped me in an endless loop of accessibility. Everyone should read this and consider the dangers of modernity.
This simple and quick read must have turned heads when it was originally published. Today it might seem simple and naive, but an honest and introspective examination of our desire for comfort is always a welcome challenge. How are our devices actually entrapping us? We blindly spend money on modern conveniences without challenging how they box us in. I’m writing this on my smartphone—a device that has made my life more connected, but has also trapped me in an endless loop of accessibility. Everyone should read this and consider the dangers of modernity.
October 26, 2023
With Folded Hands by Jack Williamson, 1947
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Oct 2023
A fine example of the AI alignment problem gone wrong. Amazing some people still think it is trivial to solve.
"To serve and obey, and guard men from harm". Seems clear and simple, but the story describes how this leads to a world that humans do not wish.
I do not believe in the aspect of feeling useless, or a small detail like the child that does not want to learn to play violin, because the machines does it better: As of 2023 a mobile phone can beat any human in chess, but human played chess is still a thing. The other aspect described in the story – the machines in control and AI alignment problem – is very real.
I could have done without all the pseudo physics. That was unneeded.
Read in
The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume Two
Oct 2023
A fine example of the AI alignment problem gone wrong. Amazing some people still think it is trivial to solve.
"To serve and obey, and guard men from harm". Seems clear and simple, but the story describes how this leads to a world that humans do not wish.
I do not believe in the aspect of feeling useless, or a small detail like the child that does not want to learn to play violin, because the machines does it better: As of 2023 a mobile phone can beat any human in chess, but human played chess is still a thing. The other aspect described in the story – the machines in control and AI alignment problem – is very real.
I could have done without all the pseudo physics. That was unneeded.
March 14, 2024
With Folded Hands by Jack Williamson is the story of the main protagonist named Underhill who sells robots for a living. One day he sees a new business known as the Humanoids who are perfect robots that operate using artificial intelligence. They operate under the "prime directive" which states that they are to provide people with care and make sure no no one is injured doing anything. Underhill is smothered by the humanoids after they take away his business. He meets a mysterious engineer who plots with Underhill to overthrow the humanoids. Overall, it's a riveting story.
April 27, 2023
*slaps book* This book is fierce. This book. Jesus. *fans self* This book got so intense so fast and so good. I once again found myself in a world I am unable to leave. Also the capabilities of the author has me completely unable to place from which era this book was written. *googles* 1947!? Holy lordie. This book is an essential piece of sci fi. It just snuck up on me. But as the story came across no time was wasted.
February 17, 2024
After discussing the potential impact of robots like Tesla's Optimus, a friend recommended this 1947 book. It introduces a world where robots, adhere to their prime directive to "serve and obey and guard men from harm". The effort to ensure safety and happiness results in a lack of autonomy for humans and leads to unhappiness. While in my opinion the story was a bit naive, it remains a thought-provoking read on the unintended consequences of our quest for safety and comfort through technology.
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