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I had a family now, I had people who loved me. It was a feeling I never wanted to give up. I’d treasure it, fight for it if I had to… and for that, I needed to better myself. More so even than when I had been a king.

Given a second chance at life, Arthur Leywin wishes above all to grow strong enough to protect his family, as the memory of his cold and disconnected past life as King Grey still haunts him. To this end, Arthur adopts the persona of the masked adventurer, Note, and delves into the dungeons under the forbidding Beast Glades. On his adventures, Arthur discovers a strange magical blade that responds to the dragon’s will inside him, befriends a powerful young conjurer whose past is shrouded in mystery, and battles the deadly Elderwood Guardian. Yet all his efforts might prove for naught when Arthur makes an enemy of a talented conjurer from a very powerful family, putting his very future at risk.

260 pages, Kindle Edition

Published January 24, 2016

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TurtleMe

32 books1,222 followers
Tae Ha Lee, writing under the pen name TurtleMe, is a fantasy novelist and webcomic author. Blending elements of Western and Eastern literature, TurtleMe creates a unique and compelling reading experience that resonates with global audiences. His award-winning series, The Beginning After the End, has been translated into over ten languages and has captivated readers worldwide.

Tae Ha, a proud UC Berkeley graduate, currently resides in Seattle with his beloved wife and dog. To find out more, follow @turtleme93 on Instagram.

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Profile Image for Russell Gray.
568 reviews99 followers
January 13, 2018
I feel a bit conflicted while reading this book. On one hand, the objective part of my brain is being rubbed the wrong way by the paint by numbers feel of this story and all of the typical negative pitfalls of the genre being present. On the other hand, my lizard brain is constantly being rewarded since the story is still hitting all of the standard notes that I expect.

So I end up getting pulled into the story and somewhat enjoying it as I'm reading it...until I hit a part of exceptionally bad typos and grammar errors (which are present numerous times throughout the book), but then when I think afterward about where the story has gone, I can only shake my head.

The main character becomes more overpowered than nearly any other overpowered MC in any other story. He literally does it all: best physical fighter, uses nearly all the magic, has other magic than the main type of magic, kills a creature that is so strong that it is only rumored to exist in the first book, knows how to build inventions that don't exist, and even knows how to dance. You'll see what I mean.

And this is all by the age of like 11 before he even begins attending magic school.

Imagine if Harry Potter got the invitation to Hogwarts and next thing you know he's just slaying dementors and death-eaters left and right and just Patronus-ballin out his damn mind. That's pretty much what we have here.

So yeah, technically I can't say I am liking this too much, but I also can't help but somewhat enjoy it as I'm reading it. There's nothing here that's gonna blow anybody's hair back, but honestly if you're in the mood for some anime/fantasy fiction fusion then you'll probably enjoy this series.
2 reviews1 follower
February 22, 2016
Good book.

I liked the first one and this one, but I can't wait to see him and Tess when they are older.
Profile Image for Terence.
1,137 reviews365 followers
October 15, 2022
Arthur Leywin wants to spend three years getting as strong as possible before beginning school at Xyrus Academy. To do so he has decided to don a disguise to pursue a career as an adventurer. Arthur delves into the Beast Glades using the name Note. He encounters all sorts of dangers, even an unexpected one from a fellow adventurer.

New Heights was a book I didn't want to put down, which is strange because it's not especially well written or interesting necessarily. The characters outside of Arthur are underdeveloped with little personality. They are largely generic. He has a caring family with a goofy father, a loving mother, and a sister who adores him. He has a kind and influential uncle and aunt. The Twin Horns seem like they could have potential as characters, but they don't receive much page time. They're probably the next most interesting characters outside of Arthur. I think the truth must just be I enjoy manga like powers and strength progression.

TurtleMe did do a good job with making some easy to hate characters. There were two that I wanted to see go down and one of which I know we will see again in Lucas. I hope he gets more page time in the future as he seems to be the first recurring antagonist in the series.

Arthur Leywin isn't quite perfect, but having the memories of his life as a fighting king of unrivaled power makes him a confounding character to all who encounter him. The majority of the book he's under the age of 12, yet he talks and behaves like the King he was in a prior life. His powers are developed past the strength of all the adults we've met and outside of a single battle in New Heights, he never seems to be remotely in danger. I do appreciate that despite Arthur being incredibly powerful, he still has limits. He realizes despite his magical augmenter power, he needs to continue increasing his physical strength. I hope he has more threats in the future that actually put him into peril.

New Heights wasn't groundbreaking at all, but I certainly want to see what happens next.
3 reviews
December 26, 2019
Disappointed

Very short for 3.99. Almost everything is straight from better Chinese works available on wuxiaworld or webnovel. Very disappointed for the price.
Profile Image for Akshay.
446 reviews1 follower
January 21, 2024
Title: New Heights (The Beginning after the End, #2) by TurtleMe

Rating: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5/5)

Review:

New Heights, the second installment in TurtleMe's The Beginning after the End series, ascends to even greater heights, solidifying the series as a standout in the isekai genre. Building upon the foundation laid in the first book, TurtleMe masterfully continues the tale of Arthur Leywin, seamlessly blending fantasy, adventure, and intricate world-building.

Character Development:


The strength of this series lies in its well-crafted characters, and New Heights takes character development to new levels. Arthur's journey continues to be a compelling exploration of growth, responsibility, and the burdens of leadership. Supporting characters are given room to evolve, each contributing meaningfully to the overall narrative. TurtleMe's ability to breathe life into characters adds a layer of emotional depth that resonates with readers.



World-building:


The expansion of the magical world in New Heights is nothing short of extraordinary. TurtleMe delves into the intricacies of the magical system, offering readers a deeper understanding of the mystical forces at play. The exploration of various realms, cultures, and magical abilities enriches the narrative, creating a world that feels vast, dynamic, and ripe for exploration.



Plot Dynamics:


The plot unfolds with a perfect balance of action, intrigue, and introspection. TurtleMe weaves a tapestry of political machinations, mythical conflicts, and personal quests. The pacing is expertly managed, with each chapter contributing to the overarching narrative while maintaining a sense of immediacy. Unexpected twists keep the reader engaged, and the resolution of key plot points is both satisfying and thought-provoking.



Prose and Style:


TurtleMe's writing style is refined and accessible. The prose is clear, allowing readers to immerse themselves effortlessly in the story. Descriptive passages are vivid without being overly verbose, capturing the essence of magical landscapes and otherworldly encounters. Dialogue is natural and contributes to the overall authenticity of the characters.



Themes and Reflections:


New Heights delves into profound themes such as identity, power, and the consequences of one's actions. TurtleMe navigates these themes with nuance, inviting readers to ponder the ethical complexities faced by the characters. The narrative encourages reflection on the nature of morality, choice, and the impact of decisions on the fabric of reality.



Conclusion:


New Heights is a triumphant continuation of The Beginning after the End series. TurtleMe's ability to seamlessly blend character-driven storytelling with intricate world-building sets this series apart. With its engaging plot, well-developed characters, and thought-provoking themes, New Heights stands as a testament to TurtleMe's storytelling prowess. Fans of isekai and fantasy will find themselves eagerly anticipating the next chapter in Arthur Leywin's captivating journey.

Profile Image for Arundeepak J.
117 reviews62 followers
November 30, 2022
3.5/5

I would have liked it more if EVERY character we met stopped swooning over MC. Seriously, it's like he's crazy good at everything and that means no serious threat for him which means a somewhat boring read.

Hope it'll get changed in future books.
4 reviews
June 21, 2020
This book was a pretty painful read. There was a lot of teenage angst. I guess if your a teen, you might like this book, but it's not nearly as good as the first one. Even more than the first book there are scenes that could have be done with in a few pages, but instead dragged on and on. I suppose if the writing and dialogue were better, I wouldn't have minded the verbosity of those scenes. As a guy over 50, I don't think I am the intended audience, but I have thoroughly enjoyed other books for teens like the Lightning Thief. I forgot to mention, for a guy who was well over 30 in his previous life, he sure is emotionally immature.
Profile Image for Alastair Patton.
102 reviews249 followers
March 7, 2022
For #1 (3.0) and #2 (2.5)

The Beginning After The End by TutleMe has one of the most interesting premises with a lackluster execution.

In the series we follow Arthur as he is reincarnated as a child in a fantastical world. In his past life he was a King and in this life he is born a peasant babe. Retaining all his memories and the mental faculties of a fully developed adult, he decides to start his progression journey just as soon as he gains motor skills over his limbs.

The writing throughout the series is solid and consistent. It gives just enough description and does a good job at letting the reader visualize the fights.

The worldbuilding and setting was alright. I could tell that the author was most likely building up the world and story as he went along. Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesnt. In the case for The Beginning After The End, I think it works at the beginning but deteriorates as time goes on.

The characters overall where pretty flat and one dimensional. The female characters especially seemed to suffer from male author syndrome (though I do not know the sex of the author). The main character, Arthur, is a perfect example of a Mary Sue. Most things come very easily to him and everyone along the way is willing to help him unless they are a rival. His purpose for getting strong “to protect his family” rang very false to me as his family was only ever in danger because Arthur wanted to progress so much.

Overall, this series can be an okay passtime, but after book 1 and 2 I am ready to retire from reading it. All the best to the author and other readers.
26 reviews
April 1, 2024
AUIDO BOOK IS 1-2 so I rated them the same

Emotional impact 6.5
There are good moments but some don’t hit as well due to how fast the story goes with timeskips

Characters 6.9
Due to how short book 1 is there just isn’t enough there. But good foundations

Dialogue 6.8
Good dialogue between characters. Specially the family. It really does feel like a family. Nothing to complain about the writing really. Just solid

Plot 7.2
Plot is straight forward. It’s a reincarnation story and so far he isn’t op due to things given to him. But from using things from his past life. I can see the story becoming better as it goes expanding on his past life and what potential is to come.

World building / Power system 7.3
Probably the best thing is has right now. Given us enough information as to not over give while also having us want to know more.

Overall 6.9
Good foundations just not enough there for me to give it any higher. Much potential
Profile Image for William Howe.
1,599 reviews69 followers
January 27, 2023
why do people keep recommending this?

Everything is declarative. There is barely enough foreshadowing of major plot points. It’s more of an outline than a story. The MC comes off as weird and occasionally creepy. Other characters have zero depth and development, and exist only to introduce another concept or ape actual writing.

I tried. I tried twice. How can people read this?
Profile Image for Gab.
170 reviews26 followers
May 9, 2020
Me encanta TBATE!
Y siento que la historia cada vez se va poniendo mucho mejor
Profile Image for Dave Stone.
1,218 reviews70 followers
November 24, 2023
Consistent with book 1
When you find a book you like the fear is that book 2 will be a let down.
Never fear, book two is just as good.
Profile Image for Carl Matthew.
41 reviews
May 9, 2024
Arthur is a badass.
Lucas should die
Four stars.
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Profile Image for HỒng QuÂn.
13 reviews1 follower
September 6, 2022
Illustration arc này cực đẹp và mang lại một sự tò mò rất lớn đối với mình đấy.
Book2 có vẻ bắt đầu dark và vén màn nx bí mật về thế giới mà arthur đang sống.
Và chuyến phưu lưu hầm ngục này nó gay cấn và hồi hộp thực sự. Những con quái vật, bẫy ,sự ác đọc của bé lucas,..xảy ra liên tục rồi sức mạnh và kỹ năng mới của arthur đc bộc lộ. Phải nói là đỉnh :>
Profile Image for Timothy Nugent.
Author 3 books48 followers
February 29, 2020
Review of book 1 - 7

Book 1 - This was very entertaining, and while I have read something similar before, it was an enjoyable read. 4 Stars. However, only two things kept it from being 5 stars. First, there was no REAL conflict in this book. Everything was too easy for the MC and everything was pre-ordained. Second, there was an initial information dump in the form of the MC reading books in a library about his new world, but after this, we do not get much detail. I knew practically nothing about the world, how society works, etc.

Book 2 - This was also entertaining, and 4 stars, kept back because the author seemed to skip over the most enjoyable parts. I wanted to see the MC's first encounters, and read about his journey. Instead, it kind of skips over the interesting bits to summarize a 4 year period.

Book 3 - 5 Stars. The author has hit his stride. You can tell he has gotten better at writing. The author also shows that the MC has flaws and his character is changing. You see that he is not invulnerable and can be harmed.

Book 4 - 5 Stars. In this book, the author explores the wider world a bit more and you start seeing conflict on a larger scale. You finally find people who are insanely strong compared to the MC and it starts exploring the history of the world.

Book 5 - 5 Stars. This is a book of training. While it seems that a book focused mostly on training would be boring, the author did a good job of keeping the reader interested. You start to see the book from others point of view more often.

Book 6 - 4 Stars. This book shows that start of the true war and plot of the series. It is also twice as long as normal. While I normally love longer books, it almost seems as if he is padding the book. 30% of the book seems to come from other's point of view. While the writing was still good, I wanted to experience the world through the MC, not some random person.

Book 7 - 4 Stars. This book suffers from the same problems as the one before it. It is still an enjoyable read, but now about 50% of the book is either from other's point of view, or a flashback from the MC's past life. I will definitely read this series until the end. However, I am no longer furiously devouring it page by page like I did before. I find myself skimming the chapters on side characters and random enemies. There were 3 or 4 full chapters told from an enemy's point of view that ended up being pointless. I won't go into why, as that would be a spoiler.
Profile Image for Clint Young.
849 reviews
April 28, 2020
Alert

I hate trying to write reviews because there are really only pass/fail results for me. Did I make it all the way through? Yes? 5 stars. No? There would be nothing here to read. In all fairness, if an author holds my attention from page one to the end, they’ve done their job. Anything less than 5 stars is petty criticism from someone incapable of even doing the job let alone doing a better one.

So in respect for the author and their work, I am going to start pasting this along with a generic review I found somewhere. “This was a fun book. I am glad that I read it. You should try it too.”

Now, since I have to keep explaining myself to people who don't like my reviews, I guess some clarification is in order.

1. I am 100% against criticism for works of art. Art is subjective, meaning reviews are irrelevant. The observer's opinion is only relevant to the observer. It is my belief that regardless of what others might say, I have to experience the art for myself.

2. I read upwards of 20 books a month. The $10/month I spend on K U, feels like I am cheating the authors. But since I can't afford 20 books a month if I were to purchase them directly, all I can offer is a positive review. That leads us to the final point.

3. If I get to the end of a book, then it was worth my time. I give those books 5 stars because it helps the author get exposure. That is the only reason I write reviews at all.

I understand that people are people and they are going to do what they do regardless of my stance. I know the way that I review books upsets some people. I am sorry they feel that way but as many have said, they will just ignore my review going forward. In fact, if you made it this far through my review, you should definitely read the book and completely ignore all of the reviews here. You are a much better judge of what you will like than anyone here.

Cheers
Profile Image for Steve Naylor.
2,057 reviews126 followers
March 28, 2020
Rating 4.0 stars

A good continuation of the series. This story follows Art as he works as an adventurer. There was the typical "bad guy" type antagonist that appears in a lot of these YA stories. The nobleman who thinks he is better than everyone that nobody likes, and can get away with anything and nobody can do anything about it because of his family. Overall I am enjoying the story, the characters and am surprised at the emotions the author is making me feel while reading. On to the next book.
Profile Image for Andreea Pryde.
Author 7 books42 followers
November 29, 2021
The Journey continues and picks up exactly where it left us. I swear if you put all the volumes together you get one masive continues story, mind me nothing bad in that.
As I was saying, the journey continues and it's Adventure Time( lol, see what I did here?). Art decides to become an adventurer in the remaining time between the start of the book when he's 9, until he turns 12 and attends Xyrus Academy.
Whanna know what awaits for him? Growth, new friends and enemies, betrayal and above all, the awareness of what he lacks.
Profile Image for Lukas Lovas.
1,326 reviews66 followers
February 21, 2020
Good second book in the series. Lots of fun, our hero is growing, and I can't wait for more. A tiny spoiler, and my only quibble...
5 reviews1 follower
November 26, 2017
The editing is taking a turn for the worst

The story is becoming a little too fantasy fulfilling and the editing is becoming consistently worse. The first book was better.
1,398 reviews24 followers
April 3, 2024
Arthur is happy being reunited with his family---but he's getting into bigger trouble than he expected when he crosses paths with the royal family at an auction. Opting to live a quiet life for the next few years, to allow himself time to age up to the correct starting point for school, he decides to work as an adventurer. But "quiet life" has never really worked out for him . . .

This is another strong novel. From the first bit with the auction setting the tone for Arthur's conflicts with various kinds of authority to his eventual work as an adventurer, this covers the next few years of Arthur's life, from 8 until just before he enters the school at 12.

I like the progression in this. Arthur is so mature he's basically equal to the adults around him, but his age does still get in the way of him being taken seriously. This happens at the auction, and again when he's trying to be an adventurer. And the auction situation is particularly bad, because no one really cares what Arthur thinks simply based on who was asking. And while martial and magical skill can help him solve some problems, it does nothing for interpersonal issues.

Part of that is Arthur building up his relationship with his parents. He's got a lot of years to make up for, and on top of that he's trying to plan ahead for the rest of his life, but he still tries to make time to build the relationship between himself and his family. After nearly losing them once, he doesn't want to waste his chances again.

I do like his decision to put off attending school until he's closer in age to the students who will be there. He's going to stand out regardless, and giving them one less way to target him would be useful.

Overall I think I like this one a bit more than the first, mostly because there's no real romantic subplot. It's more focused on the really awkward auction, then on Arthur springboarding off of that to get stronger. I rate this book Recommended.
Profile Image for Kristine.
2,871 reviews37 followers
August 10, 2021
The second book in the series deals with the male MC Arthur from the age of 8 or 9 to the age of 12. Arthur has decided to be an adventurer for a couple of years before he starts school at the very prestigious magic academy. What? It's not completely normal for a 10 year old to be out there clearing dungeons and sword fighting? No problem. He has a cape and a mask that disguises his voice. No one will even notice. He will just look like a really skinny short expert sword and magic user. Not to mention his skills are extraordinary and people from all around have begun to hear about him. Is that sarcasm you read? Ummm...yep. Maybe just a little bit.

Even though it was completely crazy to have an infant and toddler creating a manna core and reading books on magic, things get next level with this installment. If there is a special power or talent, this kid has it. Can he fight with a sword? Of course. Is he an expert dancer at age 11? You had a doubt?? And he can control 4 elements when the normal people only can do one? Yep. Sensing a trend here?

I will admit though that this book had bits that kept my interest. He makes a friend (who is actually his age and also a prodigee - but just not as good as him). He makes an enemy of a very powerful kid who comes from a powerful family. He finds a dragon who gives him a prize to take care of that turns into something unexpected....of course he does.

After a while though, it was just too much. I enjoyed the two books that I read and then realized that there are SEVERAL books left in this series. If the books each cover 2 or 3 years, then I can't even imagine what talents and skills he will have when he grows up. Am I interested enough to continue onward? No, not really.

It was fun and interesting but I am going to bow out now.
Profile Image for Abril Luna.
178 reviews
April 19, 2024
Es increíble hace mucho no estaba tan emocionada por una historia, bueno en realidad no mucho pero igual si. No puedo entender como mierda es que yo no leí esto antes. Gracias a este manhwa va a existir un antes y un después en mi vida. Lo peor de todo es que por más que yo hable con cualquier persona cercana a mi al rededor no va a entender el hecho de que tendrían que leer esto por que es un viaje de ida. Es increíble, fascinante, emocionante y todo lo espectacular que pueda existir. y capaz lo estoy alagando mucho pero es que es así. Me la pase emocionada y super mega increíblemente en otra realidad de las emociones que me generan la historia.

los personajes y más que nada y nadie el protagonista estoy maravillada con el. Me parece que esta demasiado rotisimo dejando en claro que es todo con esfuerzo y un poco de parte del guion jaja 😅 pero no importa aca amamos eso. Y no se que mas decir así que eso. Y ponele que este es hasta el capitulo 70. Que igual como ya dije no se si es correcto pero yo lo hago así y . Se merece totalmente las cinco estrellas. Y podrías estar un buen rato describiendo todas las escenas que me volaron la cabeza de lo emocionantes que son. Y las batallas también. Y no solo eso si no también su relaciones con los personajes secundarios como es en este caso su familia y amigos. Recomendado mal.

Lo único que me la baja primero es que no esta terminado. Pero no importa. Y segundo el hecho de que no se como se lee. Por que por donde lo estoy leyendo se divide por temporada pero tampoco se si esta bien. Me encantaría saber como se divide por cada tomo por que son 10 y por lo que tengo entendido recién adaptaron de la novela hasta el 5 y el 6 se empezará adaptar a manhwa es 2025 si no estoy mal. Son mi únicas quejas.
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Profile Image for Nave Niel.
8 reviews
November 7, 2021
General rating: 3.85
Considering the followings out of 5:
Plot = 3, Characters = 4, Story = 3, Writing = 2, Enjoyment = 4.5

This re-read journey had me surprised in more way than one, as I found myself rating the second book of the TBATE series lower than the first!

But there's a good reason for it, as I found that the cut between chapters was awkward and maybe would have deserved another arrangement than the one it ended up with, were readers might find themselves with a lot of slow moments were... Well, nothing compelling is happening.

I love the characters, as I already stated, and that kept me reading until the end. But the ending isn't as much of a cliffhanger as I like my readings to be, leaving us in a pretty flat manner. Sure, we know we're going to get a new environments and new adventures, but Arthur excitement for them is more difficult to read than I remembered.

All in all, I still really liked it and still enjoyed seeing the characters growing up and some new ones get added to the cast (with delight, or not, depending on which).

I really hope the following books picks me back up into this re-read so that I can confidently get into the last ones I haven't read yet.
Profile Image for Amanda Evans.
Author 5 books6 followers
October 21, 2020
The story isn't bad. I have to say that, but I didn't think that someone could make a character that much of a Harry-sue!

Arthur was a king in his original world, his conscious it transported fully aware of a newborn baby in another world.

Now he has gained magical abilities at the age of 3
he defined death and befriended a dragon.
he received the dragons 'will' and is now a beast tamer
he has a 'pet' dragon.
he rescued a princess.
he has gotten training from a legendary elven dowager king.
and he is not yet even 9 years old.

Now he has mastered 4 elements for magic
he has deviant powers in 2 additional forms of magic
he is a renowned swordsman
has fought and impressed the head of an elite school
accepted into a very prestigious school
has taken down one of the highest level forms of creatures
has defeated and threatened the head of the adventurers guild.
has the royal artificer dancing at his beck and call.

He has a full-grown dragon familiar.
He has a full harem of women
He has a magical sword specific to him.

so on and so forth.

I like this genre a lot, which is why I think I like the story so much, not because it's a 'good' story.
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Profile Image for Adam Morva.
151 reviews23 followers
August 5, 2021
It is a cheap power fantasy. The characters are rather simplistic. They don't develop well - or at all, really. Their interactions are quite primal - love, hate, violence, sexual attraction, things like that. But not much above that.
Besides the main character, most of the other ones are often completely forgotten by the author. Once a side character is introduced, he or she will be just dropped from the books, or get mistreated by the author.

The plot is a chain of impossibly lucky and unlikely events.
I have to stress the word impossibly unlikely.
Did I mention that if you have 2+ brain cells, they won't be able to believe the ridiculously unlikely series of miracles?

That being said, among all the crappy similar novels out there, this is one of the better shounen power fantasies.
385 reviews2 followers
May 8, 2023
The Beginning After The End: 2
Continues where the last book left off, Arthur has been teaching his little sister and his family's benefactor's daughter to start coalescing mana in order to develop their mage abilities in a few years, much to both sets of parents' delight. Arthur is still set on developing his skills and takes the few years leading up to attending the prestigious mage school working on his swordsmanship and physical abilities. To that end, he registers to be an adventurer. More timeskipping in this book, though not as much as the previous one, as it only covers about three years. As far as dungeon diving, only one is explored as part of the story. Engrossing read with a sympathetic main character. Felt a bit short, with a sudden ending, though. Looking forward to the next book.
Profile Image for Gwen Fricker.
63 reviews
May 31, 2020
I listened to the Audible book pack with books 1 and 2. The book has potential....unfortunately, it appears to be written just to become a TV series or a movie. What I mean by this is that there is no depth to the writing -- everything would be perfect for a movie with modern special effects.

The book really isn't bad...It is rather hard to cover 12 years of someone's life in a short book. On the positive side, the book is definitely not painful like the Divergent books.

I will continue listening to the other books just because I like listening while gardening. I have hope that as Arthur grows up, there will be a little more depth to his character.
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