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The Eighth Doctor Adventures #1.6

Doctor Who: No More Lies

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What links a disintegrating spaceship to a posh garden party, where a wealthy couple are celebrating their love for each other in style? Gatecrashers the Doctor and Lucie think they know the answer. But they're not the only uninvited guests - ferocious alien warriors riding pterodactyl-like Vortisaurs are about to make their entrance!

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First published June 30, 2007

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Paul Sutton

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Paul Sutton is a writer who has written for Big Finish Productions audio and collected novella range. He has written for the Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Doctors in Big Finish's audio story range and also a novella part of A Life in Pieces a Big Finish's Bernice Summerfield series.

Sutton also wrote two linked audio stories Arrangements for War and Thicker than Water which introduced the planet Világ and were part of the exit stories for Evelyn Smythe.

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208 reviews18 followers
August 2, 2022
First released in 2006, this is the sixth episode of a of the first standalone series for Paul McGann's Eighth Doctor outside of the monthly range of Big Finish releases. This is a one disc release, with a single 50 minute episode. There are some interviews with cast and crew at the end of the disc.

This is the first of this series to fail to hit the mark for me. And the reason is simple - it's too much like the new series in some very important respects. It has a series of great ideas and some excellent actors then utterly fails to do anything with them as it tries to pack too much into it's 50 minute run time. A two parter would, I feel have been much better as it would have given us time to explore more of these excellent ideas and not have them whizz past, and it would have given an excellent cast even more time to shine.

Series regulars Paul McGann and Sheridan Smith are joined by Nigel Havers, Tom Chabdon and an impressive Julia MacKenzie in a tale that tries to mix time travel with action with a tender love story. It tries to do too much, so nothing is really done well. The actors do their best, but at the end this is an unsatisfying tale that only rates 2 stars from me. Which is a real shame, as I think it would have done a lot better in a longer format, such as the 2 disc monthly releases.
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1,257 reviews23 followers
April 30, 2020
Wow, I started this and immediately thought that I'd missed something because it starts in the middle of the action. It was a nice enough installment, not one of the best but it wasn't bad. The characters were good and the interaction between the Doctor and Lucie were great.
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105 reviews
March 9, 2024
A magnificent time warping listen that takes you on a unique journey that pays off well that's only let down with its pacing at the beginning.

Man I'm so glad I decided to use the 8th Doctor Adventures Series 1 as my jumping point into these stories. No More Lies was absolute action packed treat. I did not expect the action to be so immersive and well written in the audio format. It stands out very much from other stories in terms of the way it plays with the format and makes you dive straight first into the head of things. I love it when stories break away from their format and this one definitely does that.

The only that prevents this story from top tier for me is the pacing. It's only one thing but it extremely bothered me. The beginning as unique as it was, was very out of place and random. There was no set up and it felt very difficult to follow what was happening. I feel like diving straight into the action on audio doesn't work considering that the listener can't visually see what's happening. Until we got to the krux of the story it was very hard process and understanding what was going on. Without any spoilers I feel like the character dynamics would have been more polished if the beginning set up had been longer. Its one of those things where I feel like it should have been a two parter or at least twenty minutes longer. Apart from that though I very much enjoyed this story and think it had lots of good character development and plot beats.

There are so many things I could praise about this audio but these are just a few.

First I have to praise the incredible sound design and editing. This was one of the most aesthetically pleasing big finish stories I have listened to. From the sound of the soft footsteps of walking about to The Doctor riding on a vortisaurs and taming it, every sound effect was immersive and a delight to listen to.It was also so well edited and designed and made it super immersive. Tim Sutton also scored great music which really suited the timey whimey tone and aesthetic of the story. I felt really emotional when the ending had to happen, it gave me full chills and goosebumps. The composition style is very much similar to the new series and its great. Gareth Jenkins really put his hat into the sound editing and made it fabulous. I promise you that this audio is worth it for the sound editing and score alone.

Secondly the character development of Lucie and The Doctor. This is the story that truly managed to get me attached to this tardis team. The duo absolutely shine in this story and work really well, you can tell that they're both now use to each other and ready to save the day. Despite me not enjoying the opening moments of the story much, it truly showed how much Lucie and The Doctor have gotten to know and understand each other. Sheridan Smith and Paul MacGanns performances create an action packed Tardis Team ready to solve the mystery. If you've been listening to the other audios you'll really feel for the dramatic cliffhanger ending. I also love how much trust The Doctor puts in Lucie that he's willing to break his conventional companion rules. Can't wait to listen to more of this iconic duo in the future when I can.

Finally the writing and the way Sutton uses time in a unique and conventional way that's not often done in a Doctor Who. It was truly an emotional wibbly wobbly time loop story with twists that hit you right in the feel. All the story beats with time in this story pay off well but it just makes you feel sad. Time loop stories are often boring and very stereotypical but No More Lies uses it in a way that makes it a unique listening experience that has you on the edge of your seat deeply wondering what's causing the loop and why Zimmerman is so determined to keep it closed. The stakes also get added when you have the Tar-Modowks trying to break through. All I can say is that the time plot beats our ones that pay off immensely and create a forfilling listen.

Overall a strong inventive timeloop story, with incredible sound design, amazing performances, fun monsters, high stakes and a well developed tardis team. It also perfectly develops on from the other stories in the series. Absolutely recommended to any 8th Doctor fans out there.

All Of S1 Of The Eighth Doctor Adventures With Lucie Miller Are Free On Spotify For Free So Differently Give It A Shot If This Review Has Peaked Your Interest.

Overall Rating: 4.25 Stars ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️💫
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1,975 reviews16 followers
January 6, 2021
I feel a bit mean giving this one only two stars, because It's an 8th Doctor and Lucie Miller adventure, probably my favourite Doctor/companion combo since Tenant/Rose and it's a Big Finish production with the best production values and a superb guest cast (Nigel Havers, Julia McKenzie and Tom Chadbon amongst the illustrious voice artists).

My dislike of this is mostly character and I guess the story itself. It begins in medias res with the Doctor and Lucie chasing an evil alien who has some kind of time device that he's going to sell to the highest bidder. And this guy really is a nasty piece of work, leaving our intrepid heroes to die. We then jump to an English garden party - and learn that it's 30 years later, the alien crash landed, fell in love with a human and married her. She's dying so our alien created a time loop to keep her alive. However the temporal disruption has attracted some ferocious time eating aliens who ride pterodactyl like Vortisaurs and who are trying to break free into this realm.

I really struggled to get a handle on the character of Nick. The utterly evil murderous villain is fine but I just couldn't gel that with his love of Rachel - especially when he admits to cheating on her and reverts right back to his villainous self once he encounters the Doctor again. Nigel Havers does a great job with him, but the character didn't quite work for me. I also wasn't too keen on Rachel - she's fully aware of her alien husband';s evil past AND forgives him cheating - the woman's a saint.

As well as the challenging dichotomy of character, I felt the story too didn't quite gel - the outer space action scenes never quite manage to mesh with the English garden party time loop.

While I wasn't too fond of the story, this one is important to the series arc as a whole and ends on one hell of a cliff hanger so have Human Resources on hand!
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Author 5 books17 followers
November 14, 2018
Why the heck are most of the MP3 tracks so darn short?! Seriously, some are less than a minute, half a minute, or even less than ten seconds! This story begins in media res, which made me think I might've skipped something. Time loops are a heavily explored trope, but who caused it made sense and there was some emotion. I just wish that this story was stronger from a writing perspective and a technical perspective. There is a cliffhanger ending regarding Lucie, which does make me wanna keep listening to this series. Sadly, I don't have the next audio at the moment. Sadly, the finale, Human Resources, was not included in the Humble Bundle I got. So I may have to wait a while before I can get to that.
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68 reviews1 follower
October 3, 2018
With a bang, then a whimper...

This starts out in the thick of the action - jarring enough to make you wonder if you've skipped a release or someone has put the tracks on the cd in the wrong order.

But the real gem here is the interaction between Martin Jarvis and Julia McKenzie. The actual plot device, well - it's secondary to their story, and frankly by the end of the recording you're wondering how thick the Doctor is for not figuring it out earlier.

And Tom Chadbon gets to be Duggan again in all but name.
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646 reviews
January 6, 2019
Subtracting a star for the overly long. Hungarian song.

This was a pretty easy mystery to solve, but the interpersonal dynamics and atypical setting were a welcome treat. It ends on a cliffhanger. Off to the next one!
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1,820 reviews61 followers
November 8, 2020
Listened to it over a month ago, so it's not fresh in my brain unfortunately.

But it was much fun, and kept me entertained while I was sewing.

Paul McGann is fabulous, and I'm so glad that he had the opportunity to shine as the doctor in these productions.

The story was fun.
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205 reviews2 followers
July 17, 2021
Premise is insanly cool.

Hate stories that relie on the sonic as the thing to save the day, sadly this falls in that catergory.
Other then that thing I really like it.
Better then the last story but not a four star story.
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542 reviews46 followers
September 13, 2021
An interesting concept, but there was too much jumping about and the story seemed to be all over the place.

I did like the touch of grief in this and how it deals with it and I enjoy the violin music, but the Hungarian song went on a bit.
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642 reviews3 followers
March 29, 2022
ターディスの部品を盗もうとしたニックを追いかけていたドクターとルーシー。
ニックがタイムループの中にいることを発見する。

つい先ほどまでバトルしていた相手がすっかり歳をとり、落ち着いてるという。しかも懐かしげに迎えられてしまうし。タイムループで最愛の人との時間をできるだけ引き伸ばそうとしていたニック。切なかった。
ルーシがめちゃくちゃ役にたつ相方になっていてびっくり。
あまりのタイムトラベル慣��ぶりに何か飛ばしたかと一瞬心配になったぐらい。
でもルーシと8thのコンビは本当に楽しい。
ルーシがついに追いかけていた相手に捕まってしまったので、次回ルーシーの正体が見えてくるのかな?
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59 reviews
November 9, 2024
Honestly I'm not really sure what happened. Probably my least favorite of the EDA's so far. Feeling a bit disappointing with this series so far, after hearing a bunch of good things about it, so I hope it improves. If it wasn't for the cliffhanger I'd say skip it.
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Author 1 book72 followers
July 20, 2017
A short one, this seemed like. Decent, but nothing amazing. Worth it for the set up for another story at the end.
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Author 2 books4 followers
July 26, 2017
It's clever, but maybe a little too much for its own good. The focus ends up more on the tricky storytelling to the detriment of the characters.
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114 reviews1 follower
November 6, 2018
It's a strange Run Around Story that's all I got say about this one
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Author 17 books20 followers
March 30, 2024
Poorly written and poorly executed, though perhaps it might have fared better in the longer format used in the monthly line.
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102 reviews6 followers
July 22, 2024
i like to think that 1. the war doctor never happened and that 2. when 8 became 9 he was thinking of lucie miller and that's why 9 is belligerent and northern
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190 reviews30 followers
August 23, 2021
#langolobigfinish
L'ANGOLO BIG FINISH: “NO MORE LIES” (The Eighth Doctor Adventures 1.6)

Scritto da PAUL SUTTON.
Con PAUL McGANN, SHERIDAN SMITH, NIGEL HAVERS, JULIA MCKENZIE e TOM CHADBON.

Cosa lega un'astronave in disintegrazione ad una festa elegante in giardino, dove una coppia benestante festeggia con stile il proprio amore? Il Dottore e Lucie, imbucati, pensano di sapere la risposta. Ma non sono gli unici ospiti non invitati - feroci guerrieri alieni che cavalcano Vortisauri simili a pterodattili stanno per fare il loro ingresso!

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Curiosamente, questo è il terzo episodio di fila incentrato su una coppia anziana. La storia parte nel bel mezzo dell'azione, quando il Dottore e Lucie stanno rincorrendo Nick Zimmermann su un'astronave. Il ritmo è serrato, e quello che si può capire su come sia iniziata questa vicenda è data solo dal dialogo tra l'antagonista, il Dottore e Lucie. Questa parte, che sembra il finale di un episodio che non esiste, viene presto messa da parte in favore di una narrazione più rilassata, quando dopo un inseguimento i nostri protagonisti ritrovano Zimmerman, 30 anni dopo, ad una festa in onore di sua moglie.
In maniera simile a Immortal Beloved, anche qui il punto focale della faccenda è il desiderio di qualcuno di restare con la propria amata per sempre, ma in questo episodio viene trattato in maniera molto diversa, aggiungendoci l'elemento temporale. È quindi un'impostazione più originale e intrigante, ma che lascia spazio comunque alla componente emotiva.
Julia McKenzie, che interpreta la moglie Rachel, riesce a trasmettere tutti i sentimenti del suo personaggio, e ha anche l'occasione di spiccare per il suo canto in una melodia ungherese angosciante.
Ormai Lucie e il Dottore sono un team affiatato, con quest'ultimo che si fida abbastanza della prima da mandarla a investigare per conto suo, e i loro piccoli bisticci hanno un tono molto più amichevole.
Anche se pure questo è un episodio autoconclusivo, finisce con un cliffhanger che ci condurrà al finale di stagione, ancora una volta in due parti.
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Author 5 books11 followers
May 3, 2015
Easily the weakest of the first season of the Big Finish 8th Doctor adventures, this is really rather confused. The story starts in media res on a doomed spaceship, and it's never terribly clear how we got there, or, indeed, much of what's going on. This is interspersed with scenes at a garden party - the connection between the two presumably being intended as a rather more intriguing mystery than it actually is.

The high quality guest cast drag this out of mediocrity, but, for once, they can't quite take it any further than that. One can see what the author was aiming at with themes of redemption and so on, but he never quite manages to make it work. Honestly, not an awful lot happens until the recurring villain turns up at the end and manages to get something right for a change. By which time the story is over.
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1,531 reviews73 followers
December 3, 2014
I listened to the first season and half of The Eight Doctor & Lucie Miller incredibly close together and back to back, so all of them are going to end up with the same review for the moment while I'm fixing up my forgotten rec's and clearing out my Currently Reading Folder (which shouldn't be 40+ books, it should be somewhere relatively close to right under ten).

I have loved meeting Eight, and his resigned but inspirational way of being. I love Lucy's moxy, and her mouth. Her mouth may be the best thing on the planet. Even though I know the episodes are roughly the same length as tv episodes, from single one hours to double-extended two hours, somehow they end up feeling like bite-size, leaving me wanting just a little more from every single one.
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200 reviews22 followers
November 6, 2016
A decent, if not inspiring tale. I had a feeling that I was missing a plot point at the beginning, possibly because I don't remember the story just before this one.

I'm probably one of the few who doesn't like Lucie Miller as a companion. She screeches too much. She reminds me of early Donna Noble, but while I grew to like Donna, I can't get used to Lucie. There is something about she and Eight that just doesn't mesh.

Still, the time loop was an interesting, if not new idea and it was fun to see (hear?) the Vortisaurs again.
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April 8, 2009
I may be unfair to No More Lies but I didn't think it worked at all. Suddenly the Doctor and Lucie are chasing time-travelling wrongdoers - where did that come from? And where did the timeloop they get inserted into come from? And it's kinda cute to bring back the Vortisaurs from the first Big Finish story with McGann's Doctor, but maybe someone could have taken the time to explain to Nigel Havers what he was doing? Because he doesn't seem to know.
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3,389 reviews197 followers
January 8, 2019
I was really confussed at the begining of this. I missed number 5 and felt like I was coming in half way through the story. But I ended up liking the plot, normally time loops are kind of frustrating but this one was sweet and there was no repition and there were interesting blends of good and evil. Lucie was also great. I loved that she knew how to fly the Tardis and was full of funny remarks.
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186 reviews3 followers
October 21, 2020
6/10
Verdict: Optional

Always love a good time loop story, even if it feels rushed and bloated. Really disliked the vortex creatures in this story, which feel like a really unnecessary inclusion that are there to pad for time. Didn't feel anything at the climax of the story except for some awkwardness. Overall, this story feels like a worse 'Forever Fallen'.
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Author 28 books37 followers
February 18, 2011
Liked this story of a bad 'un turned good. Ends on a cliffhanger with regards to Lucie (but I know what happens as I listened to the next one in the series before this one). Nigel Havers and Julia MacKenzie were good as Zimmerman and his wife.
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688 reviews2 followers
September 11, 2014
At the beginning I found this was a little hard to follow, but it got better as it moved along. I was happy to see a little more progress on the headhunter arc, but could have easily skipped this book.
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