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Al Franken's Article.

You wrote: > Your recent edit to Al Franken seemed less than > neutral to me, so I removed it for now.

I don't fully remember my added paragraph, and since you removed it, I cannot review. But from memory, the para was not really about Franken - it was about the election. Surrounding paras on Franken's page had info and numbers from 2009. I cited an article from 2012 with updated numbers, that I added. I would think this is a good thing? I am sure better wording than mine can be found, but should you not then improve my "un-neutral" wording instead of deleting the para? For full disclosure: I have nothing against Franken, mainly because of a lack of knowledge about him. But I am not impressed by the quality of eletion processes in the USA. :) See table "Perceptions of Electoral Integrity" on [1]

References

SkeletonKampf's Article.

I fixed my article. There is no copyrighted material and full citation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Morning_of_the_Streltsy_Execution

Hi Adam9007! I fixed the errors for the "Maverick Squad" article. Can you please check it and let me know if I missed anything? It would make my day! :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maverick_Squad

Dean Media Group

Heya, thanks for the edit. Still learning here. Just out of curiosity, what was your definition of 'significance' when reviewing? I flagged it because, while not blatant advertising copy, the article was/is an absolute stub, wasn't able to find anything notable on the company in publications, and I saw it indirectly as a marketing vehicle because Wikipedia would rank in search results and function as an authority booster for the company, perhaps artificially? Anyway. LMK what you think. Always curious, always learning. Chitownchic (talk) 10:33, 10 November 2016 (UTC)chitownchic[reply]

@Chitownchic: Strangely, there's no firm definition of significance, but it is a lower standard than notability (a common confusion, at least in my experience). I can only suggest you read the essays WP:CCS, WP:A7M, as well as my essay I link to at the top of this page. There's no blatant advertising (as you have said), so it's not a G11 either. I don't know if the intention was to boost search results for the company, but the article is written from a fairly neutral point of view. Adam9007 (talk) 22:12, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Adam9007: No worries, thanks for the resources, I'll have a read. Appreciated. :) Chitownchic (talk) 06:41, 12 November 2016 (UTC)chitownchic[reply]

Spelling WP:ENGVAR

On Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (film), do you think that rather than just blindly running your script you could revert the unconstructive edits? Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 03:02, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Elizium23: Wouldn't that would revert everything else too? Adam9007 (talk) 03:04, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In an attempt to fend off people who innocently change the spelling, I introduced a hidden comment into the article that explains how "instalment" is spelled. The latest edits have simply erased the hidden comment and changed the spelling anyway. Isn't that a little counterproductive? Elizium23 (talk) 03:08, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Elizium23: So I should have restored the comment? You have done that. What is the problem here? Adam9007 (talk) 03:16, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you!

Thanks for the quick revert on my page that was vandalized. I appreciate it! --Ericf505 (talk) 01:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A7 question

I saw the essay you wrote about A7 deletion but still have a question. I tagged the article R. K. Shevgaonkar with A7 but you removed it shortly after. I must say though, the subject of that article does not meet WP:N, please tell me if I am wrong. What would I tag the article with then if A7 would not be appropriate? Why do you think this article should be kept? NikolaiHo☎️ 06:21, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikolaiho: I haven't checked for notability, so I don't know if you're right about him being non-notable. A7's standard is lower than notability. All that is required is a credible claim of significance, which doesn't even have to be verified to survive speedy deletion. If there is a credible claim of significance and notability is a concern, you should take the article to PROD or AfD instead, or consider merging or redirecting if there is a plausible target. I have no opinion on whether the article should be kept (although the cited sources do show some promise), because keeping is above A7's standard. Whether or not I think an article should be kept isn't a factor when I remove a CSD tag (nor should it be, or the purpose of CSD will be defeated). Of course, I'll remove it if I think it should be kept, but I'll still remove it even if I think it should be deleted if it doesn't meet the criteria. Adam9007 (talk) 22:08, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, that was very helpful. NikolaiHo☎️ 04:58, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Adam9007,

This is regarding your this edit. You contested BLPPROD stating that article included a source at the time of tagging. It is perspicuously mentioned on BLPPROD template that All biographies of living people created after March 2010 must have at least one reference to a reliable source. The article had one reference to amazon.com kindle book, I don't think we can consider it reliable. I guess this BLPPROD should have been contested only if this was not a BLP. However, you PRODed it again so it does not matter much now. Hitro talk 19:58, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

HitroMilanese, the BLPPROD tag is a little misleading when compared to the actual policy. The criterion on the template is referring to what must be added for the template to be removed, at least one reliable source. The criterion for the initial placement of the template is a little different. For the template to be added the article must not have a source, in any form, that verifies any information in the article. That means if there is an external link, an inline link or an actual reference, that verifies any piece of information in the article then the template can not be added. -- GB fan 20:12, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
GB fan, Thanks, just went through WP:STICKY again, you are right. And yeah it is utterly misleading. Best, Hitro talk 20:30, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@GB fan: @HitroMilanese: In other words, the template assumes its placement was valid? Notice that it says "no references", not "no reliable references", although it has been boldly changed to say the latter before. Adam9007 (talk) 21:57, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Just some clarification if you don't mind. You removed the A7 speedy deletion tag noting of "evidence of notability," could you please explain what in particular is notable there? I can't find it.18abruce (talk) 02:12, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@18abruce: Loads. This, this, this, this, this, and this just from the first 2 pages of a Google search. Adam9007 (talk) 02:17, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Jeeze, sorry to waste your time. That is embarrassing, I guess I assumed it was another nonsense claim about national team representation equalling notablility and jumped the gun.18abruce (talk) 02:25, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@18abruce: National team representation certainly equals at least significance (a lower standard than notability), enough to pass A7. Adam9007 (talk) 02:28, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) 18abruce - No worries, my friend. We all learn at some point. Don't beat yourself up for making a mistake and learning from it. It's a normal part of becoming an experienced editor :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Genesis Mining Ltd

Hi, I placed the A7 tags as this is what the previous Genesis Mining article had. I tried moving from 'Genesis Mining Ltd.' to 'Genesis Mining' and discovered this has long standing promotional/deletion+reappearance issues, the latest incarnation an obvious attempt to get around the restriction on 'Genesis Mining' - I mimicked the tags used previously as feel this is an underhand attempt to defy the consensus that this company does not warrant an article and it is used for promotional purposes by COIs & SPAs. What's your thoughts? Is there a more appropriate tag? should it go to AfD? Rayman60 (talk) 22:17, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Rayman60: If you feel it should be deleted, then go ahead in using AfD or PROD. I cannot see the deleted versions, and as such can only judge what I see in the current version. By my judgement, neither A7 or G11 apply, although that does not mean it will survive AfD. I notice the article has existed since April; what and where is the consensus (I don't see any evidence of a WP:SALT EDIT: I've just seen it's been protected on the public log) regarding the previous title? Adam9007 (talk) 22:27, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I saw a small log on the original title's page. I'm not sure if I'm not privy to all info as a regular user/non-admin or just that I don't know where to look. I CSD'd it as in an earlier near-identical scenario where I AfD'd and brought it to others' attention, I was advised to be bolder. On cursory glance, one may expect it may scrape GNG in the view of some - however these were in place during the last 2 removals, so I think I will AfD and get an updated decision. thanks. Rayman60 (talk) 23:14, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with [1] A userpage that labels a number of admins as "bad admins" is indeed "a page that serves no purpose but to disparage or threaten its subject." That's an attack page. Meters (talk) 01:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Meters: But this revision is not strictly speaking an attack. Adam9007 (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The page was an attack page. It was blanked by another user, as the template requests be done. That does not make the page any less of an attack page. If you didn't look at the page history then you shouldn't have removed the attack page request. If you did look at the original page then you need to rethink your approach. Please do not do this again. Meters (talk) 01:08, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Meters: G10 explicitly states that there must be no neutral versions. There was a neutral version. Only the second revision was an attack, and I would have just reverted it rather than tag G10. Adam9007 (talk) 01:10, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Meters: Just to add, Oshwah himself deleted it under G3, and as it's gone now, I don't understand what the problem is? Adam9007 (talk) 01:19, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) I'll throw in my thoughts here, as I think it will help everyone out :-). Was the page more of a G10 than a G3? Sure. But am I going to chase after someone for tagging the page with the incorrect CSD rationale when the real actual issue is that it's a sockpuppet LTA account that needs to be blocked? Absolutely not. There's no need to be overly picky in situations such as this. Sure, I might say "umm, wat?" if someone tagged the page with a really incorrect CSD rationale, like G11 or A7... lol. The page could of course been seen as pure vandalism, and could have also been seen as an attack page for sure. The point is that it needed to go and the account was an LTA sock puppet that needed to get klunked with the mop... lol. By the way, G5 was the correct answer, everyone. G5. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:32, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, Adam9007. I had forgotten that there was an initial version of the page prior to the attack. Meters (talk) 03:25, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
*Pours Adam9007, Meters, and himself a shot of whiskey* - No worries, gentlemen. You're all doing a very fine job here. Just don't let the small stupid details blind you from the elephant in the room, and I'm happy to provide input if situations or suspicions are questionable and you're not sure. Just ask ;-) -- Cheers, everyone. *Clinks shot glasses with everyone, and then downs his shot* ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Haruka Eigen

Hi Adam

 Thanks for the help. Just wanted to get something on the page since it was blank. Thats why I also went to the talk page & asked for a Wikier to fix it LOL. Did not know a lot of the rules & thanks for the heads up.
 I rarely do an edit as there are way better Wikiers such as yourself. 

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.250.75.112 (talk) 02:58, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on your WP:ORCP

I thought your talk page should be a better place to follow up with the conversation we began at your Optional RfA poll. Since I am not a specialist, just someone with a close family member with a similar diagnosis, I can only share my thoughts in hopes you would feel encouraged to continue contributing and dig deeper into the ways you could turn autism into an advantage. You are perhaps aware of research (i.e., example) and discussions about the connections between Autism and WP editing (i.e., WP:AUTIST). There should be more and better out there, online and otherwise.

I cannot tell you how to proceed because Aspies are all different. Besides, I have not been in your shoes. What I can say is what I said before, namely, that I have witnessed individuals with similar burdens manage their limitations, inside and outside of WP. Developing such control has enabled them to view situations in a broader way. They have become a gift to their communities principally because they are reliable and consistent. The ones I am familiar with also challenge the status quo with compassion and care.

In the cases of autism that I know, the constraints are not entirely abolished, but rather improved and governed. Perhaps you are already linked to a network of support with people whom you trust, and who are honest in showing you what you cannot see well on your own. Follow their advice often, and when their thoughts fail to convince you, enlarge your network so you could tap on other views. The idea is to move accompanied and rarely on your own.

Please, notice that my intention here is not to condescend. And maybe my comments are not helpful, or this is not the direction you wanted to take your original questions, but I do hope you take them well. Caballero/Historiador 17:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Caballero1967: No, I wasn't aware of any research regarding connexions between Autism and Wikipedia. I actually find that rather surprising. I am hopeless at social interaction, so I don't really have a "network of support", sadly (I wouldn't call it a network at least, assuming that's what you meant?). I have been told I take things to heart, and I can be obsessed with things. I think that's what's causing me problems. I do have specific interests, including things most wouldn't care about (for example, have you noticed anything about the way I write?) Now I come to think of it, maybe my Asperger's has helped me get several significantly upgraded. Not that I won't continue to try, but I don't see how it can be an asset in areas other than that and WikiGnoming. Adam9007 (talk) 04:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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You're now a Pending Changes Reviewer

Hi Adam9007! I noticed just now that you didn't have the "pending changes reviewer" user right on your account. Since you're definitely qualified for the right, and have account flags that require a higher level of experience before being granted them, I went ahead and just enabled it on your account. Basically, this flag allows you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages. If you do not want this user right, let me know and I'll take it off.

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Anyways, there ya go! Happy editing, dude! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

December 2016

Please check what's been removed and added before reverting edits, fwiw your message doesn't make much sense as I didn't add anything. Thanks. :-) 37.123.162.236 (talk) 01:30, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]