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December 4

Songwriting royalties

Are songwriting royalties divided equally among everyone with a writing credit for the song? Or does each writer get a certain percent based on what parts they wrote? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.238.116 (talk) 00:07, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can find, the songwriters can divide the royalties among themselves in any split they can agree on, and the applicable performing rights society will distribute the royalties according to the percentage listing on the song's registration filed with the society. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's exactly right. When performing rights associations are notified of new songs by songwriters, one of the things which is sent is a percentage allocation to each writer. In my case, for an example, some of the songs I receive royalties for from APRA I get 50% and another writer also gets 50%, in others I get 25% and another writer gets 75%. In some, I get 62.5%, three other writers receive 12.5% each (in the latter case, it is because the entire band - four of us - wrote the music, but I wrote the lyrics). Writers are free to decide on a split entirely among themselves. Grutness...wha? 06:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As an example, the band Rush splits ALL band proceeds exactly into thirds; each band member gets the same amount of money for everything, even though Neal Peart writes most of the lyrics AND the drum parts, while the other two members write the guitar, bass and keyboard parts. I have seen interviews where they attribute this long-standing practice to the personal harmony that has kept them together for nearly 40 years. On the other hand, the Rolling Stones divide up revenues very differently, and it has often caused tension in the band. Mick Taylor, a former guitarist, sued the band frequently after he left for songwriting credit he thought he should have received but did not. On the other side, Ronnie Wood was not made a full member of the band for YEARS after he had been playing with them; I believe it was not until the 1990's that he was given full membership. Ian Stewart likewise had his "full member" status revoked despite being a founder of the band, as well as a contributor on most of their albums and concert tours. --Jayron32 06:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
They just can't get no satisfaction, can they? (Though they try, and they try, and they try, and they try...) Clarityfiend (talk) 06:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
U2 and REM are two other long-lasting groups who divide the publishing equally between the group members, so it seems to work for them as a way of maintaining harmony as well. On a related note, many progressive rock groups of the late 60s and early 70s used to divide their long compositions into several Parts, each with its own title. They used to get accused of doing this because they were being pretentious, but the real reason was that it multiplied the amount of publishing royalties they would get, since each part counted as a separate composition. --Richardrj talk email 14:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Violin Song Request

What is a good song for third positon for violin?69.227.69.48 (talk) 00:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since you haven't had an answer yet, I'll have a go at helping. I take it that you've just started using third position? Are you looking for something that will help you practise third position, or are you looking for something to perform that will show you can use third position?
If you're looking for something to practise third position, it's probably best if you buy a book of studies for third position. This will have lots of studies (little pieces of music) written specially to help you practise using, and moving in and out of, third position. For example, this or this sort of book. Your local sheet-music shop should have at least one of this sort of book, or help you find one.
If you're looking for a piece of music to play in third position, there are thousands. Almost any piece can be played with third position, and most middle to advanced pieces expect that you can slip into it when needed. It is the most useful of the positions, after first. If you give a bit more information about the sort of piece you're looking for, and what you want to do with it, I might be able to help. 86.166.148.95 (talk) 22:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What Movie was that ?

Many years ago, I recall watching a movie, the plot of which seemed to resemble Apollo 13, with the astronauts trapped orbiting the Earth, and engineers trying to bring them home. One of the astronauts was from San Diego, and in the movie, the whole city shone lights up to space, so he could see a light emanating from the California coast, is that at all possible, given that John Glenn and others said they saw oil fires in the desert from space, one of which was later put out by Red Adair, and they also saw Bedouin campfires at night, and what is the name of the film ? Thanks. The Russian. --C.B.Lilly 09:12, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

The Right Stuff (film)? --Jayron32 13:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Marooned (1969). Pepso2 (talk) 13:16, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was this second one, Marooned. That sounds about right. I do not believe it was The Right Stuff, because I saw that later, and since it was made in 1983, it would not have been released on TV that early. I now realise I forgot to stipulate that I was watching the movie in question in either the late 1970's or the early 1980's. I did not realise the movie was as old as 1969, and thought it had been made in the seventies, but also got the impression it was a true story. Although it wasn't, as the review says, it was released around the same time as the real Apollo 13 incident, making it relevant and popular at the time. Thank You all. Also, does anyone know how much light one could shine into space for it to be seen by an orbiting craft ? Does NASA do such experiments ?

Males Wearing Bandanas Around Their Heads

Is it a single sided or is double sided bandana (if it is a bandana) that males wear around their heads? What is the color?

Traditionally, is it a single sided or is double sided bandana (if it is a bandana) that males wear around their heads? What is the color?174.3.102.6 (talk) 19:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a photo online that would serve as an example? Bandanas can be worn a few different ways. Also, color may be an indication of street gang membership but without knowing the context of what you're referring to, all we can do is guess. Dismas|(talk) 23:57, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
[1] Looking at these pics, I noticed an open center paisley bandana. Is that the orignial style?174.3.102.6 (talk) 02:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Original style of what? Of bandanas in general? According to that article, 'bandana' is a Hindi word and paisley is of Indian and Persian origin. So it's possible that bandanas were originally decorated in a paisley pattern. Or you may be interested in do-rag. While not bandanas, males often do wear do-rags on their heads. Dismas|(talk) 02:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Original style of the bandana "look".174.3.102.6 (talk) 04:30, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Lukach from Departures wears a black (as far as I can see) bandana. I am not certain if it is single sided or double sided. Does anyone know? (Or know how to figure out?)174.3.102.6 (talk) 08:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea who he is or what Departures is but from a quick Google image search, it seems to be a standard bandana like any that you'd find in a camping supply store or maybe some clothing shops. Dismas|(talk) 09:16, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And the banada is not an open center paisley design.174.3.102.6 (talk) 09:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

T V SHOW-----WONDERLAND

What is the name of the theme music currently used on Direct tv's presentation of Peter Berg's "WONDERLAND"....& where can I find it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hal62134 (talkcontribs) 22:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


December 5

Shortened episodes of Top Gear

Can anyone tell me why episodes of the BBC television show Top Gear are shortened by about 10 minutes for iTunes and Netflix? Some episodes seem to have the news segment or the "Star in a Reasonably Priced Car" segment removed. (I'm in the US) Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 00:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's shortened for Dave because they have to cram adverts into the hour, too. Are the Netflix and iTunes episodes from the BBC themselves, or from Dave? (No doubt I've just shown my complete ignorance of both iTunes, which I thought was a media player, and Netflix, which I've never heard of!) Vimescarrot (talk) 01:30, 5 December 2009 (UTC) Helpful fact: Dave episodes might be under the UKTV banner[reply]
iTunes also has a store component where you can rent or buy movies/tv shows/music/podcasts. And Netflix is a delivery service that sends out DVDs of shows and movies. When you've watched them, you send them back. It's basically a rental service through the mail and quite popular over here in the US. That aside, the episodes are not from Dave as far as I know, and I do know what Dave is. The end credits and such don't say anything other than BBC etc. Though, now that you mention it, I haven't paid particular attention to see if they say "BBC America", as opposed to just plain "BBC". BBC America is the network that carries it over here. That might explain it since they would show commercials as well. Dismas|(talk) 01:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's common for shows to be edited for syndication or overseas sale. TV Tropes has a section on it too[2]. Quite possibly the versions on Netflix/iTunes have been edited for the USA, as other people have mentioned.--Pleasantman (talk) 14:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assassin's Creed 2 Black Edition

I was looking online and I was thinking of getting assassin's creed 2 black edition and it's region free, but then I saw where it said Australian version, will there be any difference between the Australian version and the American version, anything at all like the story, combat, weapons, characters, anything at all cause I just want to make sure and I already know the difference between all the editions like the white, black, and the master assassin's edition. I just need to know if there is a difference between the Australian version and the American version and for that matter what does region free exactly mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.15.129 (talk) 06:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Due to recent laws passed in Australia, a special version of Assassin's Creed 2 will be released in that country with all violence removed. Instead of fighting enemies, you will hand them walkie-talkies and walk away. Seriously, though, this post seems to indicate that there will be no differences, but it's possible that there are many, but no one has spotted any yet. Also, the wiki indicates that all versions of the game will be available in Australia. Taggart.BBS (talk) 15:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2012 movie

How many times does someone say "you have to see this" or similar in the movie 2012? I'm sure it's a lot, but I don't know how to go about finding a number. Tips? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Count. But why do you care, it's just about the most banal piece of leftist agitprop in history, further burdened by weak special effects.--Leon (talk) 12:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC) [reply]
Leftist? Please do not set incorrect political labels on crappy movies, that does not belong on the ref desk./Coffeeshivers (talk) 13:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC) [reply]
Sorry, my bad. But I contend that it is.--Leon (talk) 13:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC) [reply]
Why on earth would you consider that a movie about the end of the world is leftist? DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC) [reply]
Perhaps he objects to the heroic portrayal of an unnamed black president who is in office from '08 to '12?
See Hostile media effect. APL (talk) 23:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Climate change is a myth created by leftists, obviously (even though the movie goes for the rightist excuse of sunspots). Adam Bishop (talk) 14:59, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In short, just count. You haven't defined "or similar", so I'm compelled to say you need to count yourself.--Leon (talk) 13:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for subtitles for the movie to come out. Use some sort of count function in your word processing program. Those won't include "or similar", though.

Thanks for the replies. The thing is I'm not so keen on doling out another 8 euros to see it in a cinema (although I did enjoy the special effects). Online scripts, or anything else? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 17:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Movie/Television show Identification

It's science fiction. At the start of the show, there was some crisis happening, and then there's a group of Star Trek-ish crew (not like conventional astronauts, I mean.) that go on a ship that was just outside the atmosphere. They then go through a huge circle shaped gate that functions like a warp drive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.12.254 (talk) 14:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stargate. --TammyMoet (talk) 15:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've watched the 1994 movie, but that's not it. (The gate-thing was in space.) It's not one of the newer 2008 movies, because I watched it in the late 90s to early 2000s. I should clarify, I think it was a movie rather than a television show. (Which rather rules out SG-1 too.)218.186.12.254 (talk) 15:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to guess Wing_Commander_(film), but I've never seen it, and am unsure whether or not they had jumpgates. Taggart.BBS (talk) 16:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Stargate SG-1 did have a couple of massive stargates in space, which could easily transport huge ships. Stargate Atlantis made copious use of stargates orbiting planets. I know you said it was a film but ... well, just in case. Stargate's supergate, Atlantis spacegate. Shoot - sorry, didn't realise you said late 90s early 2000s. I'd guess that's too early for Atlantis (2004). The SG-1 supergate didn't appear until after Atlantis started airing. Vimescarrot (talk) 17:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The gate in SG-1 seems to look right but the timeframe doesn't fit.

There is more than one version of Stargate,perhaps Stargate-Atlantis?..hotclaws 21:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I happened to be reminded of the Lost in Space movie.(Not that I'd reccomend it). There was a warp gate like device at the beginning, although it wasn't actually used. 07:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.26.233.228 (talk)
I think it's Lost in Space. Thanks!


December 6

Reverse

Here, you can see that the mangos are facing (oriented) in one direction (in the center). Although the mangos alternate (in this center), predominantly, the mangos fall in one direction. Where can I find (single sided) paisley banadans that are oriented the other way (the counter part, or reverse, as some would call it)?174.3.102.6 (talk) 01:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is this movie

I saw this movie about 1-2 years ago, and I remember I really enjoyed it, but I cannot remember the title! Can someone help me?

It's about an American Missionary going to a country like Brazil or something, and there's one scene where the villages of the place he's at tells him not to sleep with his feet uncovered or us the rats would chew his feet. And so he fell asleep with his feet uncovered and his feet were chewed up. The next day the missionary told the villagers that God would heal his feet, and so the next day or two he was able to walk.

Anyone know what movie that is? Thanks. 05:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC)Moptopstyle1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

I don't remember the plots of it very much, as its been YEARS since I last saw it, but the most prominent movie about missionaries in Brazil was the film At Play in the Fields of the Lord. I do remember liking it a lot, but I don't remember that specific scene. --Jayron32 03:43, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, that's not it, but thank you.

There was also another scene, if it helps, where he goes to the Village's Post Office to pick a telegram, and the Missionary was narrating what the Telegram a. And he said "STOP" a few times. And, ha! I forget what the telegram read. Another scene is where 3 of the Brazilian girls sold themselves or something to some men on a ship? I think so... So if that helps. Moptopstyle1 05:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

The Other Side of Heaven? IMDb mentions rats eating the soles of somebody's feet[3].--Pleasantman (talk) 14:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's it! Thank you! "The Other Side of Heaven" is right! Thank you! Oh, I didn't know the Missionary was Latter Day Saint. Ha. Moptopstyle1 21:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From what I remember, It's not really explicitly mentioned that he's LDS, but John H. Groberg was from Southern Idaho, did attend Brigham Young University, and then (in real life) became a General Authority for the LDS Church. Additionally, a small portrait of then-president David O. McKay is visible in the church meeting scenes. Kingsfold (talk) 18:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A bit OT, but the reason he said "STOP" a few times is because a period/full stop was transmitted as the word "STOP" to avoid mistakes. You can read more at http://www.telegraph-office.com/pages/telegram.html.Bunthorne (talk) 18:40, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone Know House of Heroes?

So, do you know about them? And please don't tell me that is not a question for Wikipedia.. The REAL discussion page hasn't been touched since 1990. (well, it seems like) So, this is kind of becoming a discussion page right? I think so. Moptopstyle1 08:28, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

What you think isn't all that relevant. What the consensus is, is relevant. This page is not a discussion page, as it explains in the header. And the talk page for House of Heroes was last edited the day before you edited it which was not in 1990. Dismas|(talk) 08:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't talking about the House of Heroes talk page, I was talking about the actual Discussion Pages that leads back to articles. I don't like how it's set up. The reference desk is much simpler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs) 22:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I, for one, still have no idea what you're talking about. The RFC page that you linked to was last updated yesterday by the bot that is in charge up updating it. And no discussions are supposed to take place there. It's a listing of pages with discussions on them. Dismas|(talk) 04:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can go ahead and delete this question. Moptopstyle1 05:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

Animated series like Ben 10

My young son is a big Ben 10 fan, however he has now watched all the DVDs of the original series and Ben 10: Alien Force. Can anyone recommend any other animated series in the same vein that might appeal to him? Many thanks. --Richardrj talk email 10:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's "Danny Phantom", and I think they still play that on Nicktoons, and that show is about a teenager who is actually part-ghost. There's "My Life As A Teenage Robot" which is about a robot teenager. (ha, ha)

A lot of the Nicktoons are pretty good. "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends" is pretty good for kids.

Or, better yet, check out Common Sense Media and this page will give you a list of Children's Cartoons that will tell you what age group that cartoon is appropriate for. I love that site. Moptopstyle1 22:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

When he gets older, he might like Green Lantern. I couldn't help but think of GL while reading the Ben 10 article. Dismas|(talk) 05:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New York and college football

Why is the state of New York so bad at college football? This result is surprising considering that New York has at least two strong reasons to be good at college football:

First, American football is certainly a very popular sport in New York. Consider that it has not one or two but three professional teams: the New York Giants, the New York Jets, and the Buffalo Bills.

Second, New York has the third-highest population of any state in the United States, so there should be a large pool of high school players from which New York colleges can recruit. Consider that almost all the other high-population states have historically elite or near-elite college football programs (this list is descending by population):

  1. California - USC Trojans
  2. Texas - Texas Longhorns
  3. New York - glaring lack!
  4. Florida - Florida Gators, Florida State Seminoles, Miami Hurricanes
  5. Illinois - okay, this is the other exception besides New York, but even the Fighting Illini and the Northwestern Wildcats are better than anything New York has
  6. Pennsylvania - Penn State Nittany Lions
  7. Ohio - Ohio State Buckeyes
  8. Michigan - Michigan Wolverines
  9. Georgia - Georgia Bulldogs

Who does New York have? The Syracuse Orange? The Army Black Knights? The Buffalo Bulls? Even if we include New Jersey (as right next door to NYC and where the Giants and Jets are actually based), we only get the Rutgers Scarlet Knights. Putting it charitably, these are not exactly elite football programs. So why is New York so bad at college football, considering that they should have popularity and population advantages over most other states?

Lowellian (reply) 16:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's very hard to maintain strong programs. Look at teams like Michigan and Notre Dame. They used to be among the elite, but they don't scare anybody now. That's true of teams like Army also, which used to have one of the strongest programs in the nation. Fordham used to be good too. These things ebb and flow. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots17:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's hard, and things ebb and flow. You're not answering the question, though. I'm asking why New York specifically does not have an elite program, when all the other high-population states do. New York does not put teams into the Top 10 or even Top 25 the way the other high-population states do. You can't say that Army or Fordham (the latter merely Division I-AA), over the past thirty years, has been anything like the teams I've listed from other high-population states. You mentioned Michigan and Notre Dame -- they may be be having down years right now, but both were in BCS bowls just three or so years ago. You can't say that about any team from New York. New York definitely underperforms relative to its population, and I'm asking why. —Lowellian (reply) 18:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I can account for Army's weakness -- being a military academy makes for stringent admission standards which make it difficult to recruit an elite football team. But the question is why New York doesn't have elite state university system football programs like other high-population states do. —Lowellian (reply) 18:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I know it is the wrong answer, but the reason could have been that somebody had a thought about what the main purpose of having a state university ought to be./Coffeeshivers (talk) 22:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I believe there are two contributing factors: First, there is not a large public state college in one location in New York equivalent to the University of Texas, University of Florida, University of Michigan, University of Georgia, etc. etc.; SUNY is spread out over many small campuses without a central collection of alumni and support. The aforementioned state schools all have graduate schools of law, medicine and business that generally create a pool of well heeled alumni to support the expensive nature of a big time college program. Second, and this is more observation than provable fact, is cultural. New York high school athletes are spread across numerous minor sports (swimming, wrestling, lacrosse, etc.) and not concentrated in football. There is no "Friday Night Lights" equivalent in New York to compare with places like Texas and the Southeastern states where football is a semi-religious experience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtrp050 (talkcontribs) 22:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Columbia University used to have a major football program, but it has collapsed recently, along with most of the Ivy League. Woogee (talk) 00:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That just backs up my original point, though. Like the rest of the Ivy League, the Columbia Lions are Division I-AA, and thus certainly cannot be considered to be an elite college football program in the modern (post-WWII) era. —Lowellian (reply) 02:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
New York University (NYU) disbanded its football team in the '40s for economical reasons (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,885939,00.html). An attempted revival in the '60s was unsuccessful (http://www.nyu.edu/library/bobst/research/arch/175/pages/footb.htm) --Nricardo (talk) 01:16, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'd argue that weather plays a role. A kid in Florida, Texas, or California can do sports outside year round. The same can't be said for New York. Look at the major football powerhouses, and in high school they're all southern states. In college they're usually southern states, although there are exceptions. On the other hand, many superb basketball schools at both levels are found in the northeast. Basketball, surprise surprise, can be played inside just as well as outside. 218.25.32.210 (talk) 02:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is, I have a hard time buying the "cold weather" argument against New York because Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are all cold weather states, too, which isn't stopping them from fielding elite college football teams. —Lowellian (reply) 02:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Division I college football long abandoned the northeastern U.S., despite being essentially formed there. Today, there are only 5 Football Bowl Subdivision schools in New York and New England, and none are anything close to a national power, this is despite that area being the most densely populated area in the U.S. In football's early years, it was played almost exclusively by schools that would later form the Ivy League, mostly private, privileged northeastern schools. Large public institutions never really took hold of football in the Northeast. The first public schools to really embrace football were those of the Western Conference (later the Big Ten) and the Southern Conference (today the SEC and the ACC.) The smaller, private schools found themselves unable to compete with the larger public schools in terms of attracting the best football talent, so most of them became irrelevent by the middle of the 20th century. Since New England and New York lacks many of these larger, public schools, they lack the impetus to develop large football programs. The SUNY system, for example, lacks a "large flagship" school like say the University of Michigan or University of Texas, so there isn't a way to "concentrate" the football talent like in those schools. The University at Buffalo is the only Football Bowl Subdivision team in the SUNY system, and its perrenially bad. In the rest of the Northeast, none of the state-supported schools is generally large enough either. By contrast, places that don't have powerful football traditions have strong college basketball traditions. Since you only need 12 people to field a competitive Division I basketball team, as opposed to the 85 on a football bowl subdivision team, smaller private schools can compete on a more even footing than their larger bretheren. It is rare to find a school which is both a basketball and football power. If you had to press me as to why New York specifically lacked a football power, I would say that it's the organization of the SUNY system which lacks the sort of "flagship" school that other states of a similar size have. --Jayron32 02:44, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I remember reading a piece by the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan who suggested that if there isn't much else to do, you devote your energy to rooting for, and supporting, the State University's football team. Where there are more entertainment venues, both indoors and out, there is less thrust to build major college football programs, most of which are actually profession teams with unpaid labor. New Yorkers apparantly support pros teams who call themselves pros. Such was Moynihan's thesis. B00P (talk) 03:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Which reminds me of the canard "The best pro football in Michigan is played in Ann Arbor"... But it does not explain how Pennsylvania can support the Steelers & Eagles AND the Nittany Lions, or how Texas ends up with the Cowboys AND the Long Horns. Its an interesting idea, that the prevalence of pro teams ends up hurting nearby college programs, except it doesn't really hold up. Heck, Florida has 3 pro football teams, and still has 3 top-tier college programs. --Jayron32 03:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget the Cowboys-overshadowed Houston Texans! ;) But yeah, I'm pretty sure having nearby NFL teams around doesn't weaken college football programs (if anything, as I wrote in my original post, I suspect they are correlated: nearby NFL teams increase the popularity of football and lead to more high school students playing football). Besides the examples User:Jayron32 has mentioned, there's also California, which also has both strong college programs and three NFL teams (Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, San Francisco 49ers). —Lowellian (reply) 01:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It should also be mentioned that Fordham had a major football program before WWII -- see Seven Blocks of Granite -- as well as Cornell, Colgate and the above-mentioned Columbia. Army was the dominant program of the 40s, even after the war ended. And don't discount Syracuse, the alma mater of Jim Brown, Ernie Davis, Floyd Little, Larry Csonka and Jim Nance. New York state was once an absolute hotbed of college football. The question is why that changed. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have to agree with everything that's been said above about the political economy theories. College football was a fairly cheap sport to run pre-WWII, but very expensive afterward, because of (1) major advances in safety and medicine, making it simply unethical to field a team if you couldn't afford to prevent and treat injuries, (2) major advances in transportation and radio/TV that made long-distance rivalries possible. When the Bowl games started, they were a once-in-a-year chance to play a team from far away; now, few major programs think twice about piling 100 people on a charter plane to travel 1,000 miles for an October game. At a certain point, the university has to think long and hard about where to invest its money. The midwestern/southern tradition of having a single flagship school with a huge student body and the ability to attract non-alumni to their fan base makes it much easier for a U. Texas or Ohio State to field a team, and much harder for a SUNY-Buffalo/Oswego/Long Island/Binghampton/Etc. to compete. --M@rēino 14:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Music Program Query

I need help with something!

I am a very creative guy, I've created more than 10 techno songs on my computer using program "Techno E-jay"... I subscribe myself as Survived Miscarriage, but that is not important now...

Techno E-jay is not really a program with lots of options. The main question is:

"What is the name of a program that allows you to create psychodelic and techno music that has lots of options to work with?"

The subquestion is: "Where can I find the full version of the program?" - you know that you can only download a demo from the internet.

Please, answer if you know the asnwer :)

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miscarriage (talkcontribs) 21:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try one of the following:
Lowellian (reply) 21:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rock of Ages Musical

Wikipedia article lists the musical score for Rock of Ages and omits "Keep on Lovin You" written by Kevin Cronin. The song is listed in the musical credits in the Broadway Playbill. Do you know if it is performed in the show and, if so, at what point in the show?

John Lennon

Was John Lennon ever charged for assaulting that Radio Personality guy at Paul's birthday party back in 65 or 66? What had happened is that, the Radio Personality made a comment on John Lennon's vacation with Brian Epstein and commented "Did you enjoy your honeymoon?" (and Epstein was known for being gay, and the Radio Personality known for his humor) So, did the man drop charges on Lennon? I read Lennon actually broke some of the man's ribs. Yikes. Moptopstyle1 22:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

An alternative way to say "Give Peace a Chance". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! Ha ha! Nice one! But he kind of changed as he got older! With the whole "Lost Weekend" with May Pang! Ha, ha. Yeah, I do like him more as a musician. And I forgot to add (sorry about that)

HE WAS DRUNK WHEN HE ASSAULTED THE MAN. Sorry for not clarifying that. Moptopstyle1 05:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

I'm not sure that being 'drunk' is ever an acceptable excuse for assaulting someone. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 12:13, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, John Lennon later did apologize for assaulting the man. Hm, look what I've started! Okay, since the Anniversary of Lennon's Murder is tomorrow, I'll ask a more positive Question in Respect of him. Moptopstyle1 22:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sitars Anyone?

It there a website that has a toll free number where you can order Sitars? You know those Indian Guitar things? That George Harrison played? Ha, ha. Thanks. Moptopstyle1 05:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

Have you looked at any websites so far? I went to google and simply entered [sitar purchase] and a bunch of sites came up.
Most of them have the normal sized sitar. Some of them have the small one, called the "baby sitar". [Thanks to the late Joey Forman for that one.] ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots07:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at MusiciansFriend.com, it's a weird looking "Guitar Sitar". Oh, but at tablasitar.com it has them! Thank you. Moptopstyle1 21:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

December 7

Veronica Lake

As Joseph Pulitzer stated, the three most important things in reportage are "accuracy, accuracy, and accuracy." The same is, of course, true for Wikipedia articles. Being sure of one's sources is critical, and the internet has rather low reliability. This was driven home for me when doing research to expand an article which I wrote and maintain, and I came across a number of sites that were verbatim copies of what I had written. Although my article was well-researched and correct, the ease with which misinformation can be spread on the net is frightening. The point of this prologue is that I implore that anyone who answers my question will supply a valid source for the information.

I refer to the article on Veronica Lake.

  • The infobox at top right states that she was born in Seattle.
  • The section "Early life and career" claims that she was born in Brooklyn.

Okay, so where was she born? B00P (talk) 03:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ain't Seattle a suboib of Brooklyn? I've corrected it (IMDb and other unreliable sources say the latter), but am still searching for a good source. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:03, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see a reliable source, but there are so many semi-reliable sources for Brooklyn, and so few for anywhere else, that I would consider Brooklyn pretty safe. The year has much more variety in sourcing. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:11, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hm. The article currently reads When she was about one year old, the family moved to Florida but returned to Seattle before she was five. Did they live in Seattle once, but moved to Florida and then back to Seattle, or was this the first time they'd ever been in Seattle? It's kind of confusing. 99.166.95.142 (talk) 17:21, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to Jeff Lenburg's biography of Lake, Peekaboo, her parents lived on Lefferts Avenue in Brooklyn when she was born, and then at the age of eight, the family moved to Saranac, New York. Then she went to a Catholic girls boarding school in Montreal. Pepso2 (talk) 17:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

fringe (TV series), season 1, episode 18 (midnight) - soundtrack

hi! i would like to listen to one of the songs in the club scene (@53th minute including commercials), after walter says "prepare the table, agent farnsworth" (or similar) and the syphilis-guy says "thank u" (the song says "about u" quite often, i think...) (the fbi gurl asks "have u found something?" (or similar) and peter says "not yet - i got her" (or similar))... who can say the name of the song? and its artist...? thx. bye. --Homer Landskirty (talk) 03:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a chance it could be one of these: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1390443/soundtrack. Lanfear's Bane | t 23:53, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
nope... but ur suggestion made me google for fringe midnight soundtrack; and i found this [4] - the tune is the one by ladytron: [5]... :-) w00t *wag tail* --Homer Landskirty (talk) 01:29, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Guitar Center People!

Does Guitar Center just MATCH the lowest price advertised, or will they actually LOWER it? I'm looking at this Gretsch 5120, and on most sites it goes for $699, and that price is also on Guitarcenter.com So, is that the only price they'll stay at, or will it go even cheaper to be the "Guaranteed Lowest Price" ? 05:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)Moptopstyle1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

And also, I CAN'T SIGN TALK PAGES! For real! I Click the "Moptopstyle1 05:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)" things, and it doesn't work! Sorry, it just won't except it? Any other ideas for me to sign? Watch it won't take it! Moptopstyle1 05:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC) I signed it and it won't work! Moptopstyle1 05:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

Never mind about the signing my talk pages. Jayron32 figured it out for me. But does anyone know the answer to the Guitar Center question? Moptopstyle1 (talk) 06:03, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Song from I.O.U.S.A.

Hello friends, There is an instrumental song in the documentary called I.O.U.S.A.. If you watch the 30 -minutes, Byte-Sized version here, it begins at 8:46 and lasts for around one minutes. I've searched extensively, but to no avail. Any help would be much appreciated.```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerjacques (talkcontribs) 06:53, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

30 Rock Song

There's a string-quartet song in the latest episode of 30 Rock that I'm really hankering for. It starts at 19:27. Many thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerjacques (talkcontribs) 07:06, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Be aware that your link in the preceding question yields a YouTube message "The URL contained a malformed video ID", and the one in this question links to a video library unavailable outside the USA, which cuts down the number of people able to contribute. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 18:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Play a midi on CD?

Someone sent me a midi (new to me!) and I can click on it and play it on my computer. Can I transfer it to play it on a CD? If so, how? I am an elderly ignoramus so please don't use too much jargon! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jetolan (talkcontribs) 11:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

MIDI files (which normally have a .mid extension) are stored in a special format, which just encodes the notes and voices. This isn't compatible with a CD. You'll need MIDI player software which can output to audio files, or you can record the output of your PC. Google[6] suggests there are a few websites (such as Hamienet) and free software packages which will convert midi to MP3 or wave audio which can then be burnt to a CD, but I don't have the experience to recommend any.--Pleasantman (talk) 15:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Pleasantman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jetolan (talkcontribs) 22:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you play the midi file using, say, Windows Media Player, you can simultaneously record it using an audio recorder such as Audacity (free download). The tricky bit is to make sure that the audio input source is midi. If you double click the loudspeaker icon at the bottom right of the screen (assuming you're using windows), an applet with various sliders will appear. There will be one slider for each audio output source on your soundcard. Now if you go to the applet's menu, you can make this applet show the audio input sources instead. I can't give you the exact wordings on the menus (as mine are in Norwegian) but a back-translation is "alternatives" (first item on leftmost item in menubar), then "properties" (first item in submenu). A dialog appears, on the top of which is a combo box. Below are two radio buttons. The default option (for the radio buttons) is "playback". Select "recording" instead". The applet changes, and now shows the audio sources. Each slider now represents an audio source. Make sure the "midi" one is selected, and that the volume is turned up. If you start the program you used to play back the midi and Audacity, start playing the midi, and then start recording with Audacity, you should be able to record the midi that's playing. --NorwegianBlue talk 22:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ghana's national football team's biggest loss?

Ghana national football team says Brazil 8-2 Ghana 1996-03-27, with references for that score, but not mentioning if it's Ghana's biggest loss. Bulgaria national football team says Bulgaria 10–0 Ghana 1968-10-02 with no references at all. Contradiction pointed out via OTRS. -- Jeandré (talk), 2009-12-07t12:38z, -- Jeandré (talk), 2009-12-07t12:40z

According to the very comprehensive EU Football website, it was a friendly played in Leon, Mexico, shortly before the 1968 Olympics (held in Mexico City) in which Bulgaria and Ghana competed in the football (soccer) championship - although there's a lack of references, and eu-football.info is banned from Wikipedia. The two teams never met in the Olympic tournament, in which Bulgaria was ultimately runner-up to Hungary but Ghana went out in the first round.[7] --Pleasantman (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The RSSSF archive, which is very comprehensive, doesn't list the Bulgaria-Ghana game[8], so I'm a little worried if there's any evidence it took place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pleasantman (talkcontribs) 15:37, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, the 1968 game would presumably have been played by the Olympic teams and not the official national teams and may not be considered a full international. The FIFA web site does not list the Ghana game - in fact it seems that Bulgaria and Ghana have never played a full international against one another - but does list the 1996 Brazil friendly. --Xuxl (talk) 18:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

song from La Chinoise

Godard's La Chinoise has this song. Whose song is this? The female voice introduces tonal and rhythmic shift. What do you call this in music? Anything to do with contrapuntal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saptharishi (talkcontribs) 14:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If by "Whose song is this?" you mean "Who wrote it and sings it?" the answer is Claude Channes. Deor (talk) 01:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agency name/address for John Williams the film composer

I would like to book John Williams for a future event and need the name/address/phone of his agency in order to make contact. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.74.134.208 (talk) 20:16, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did you try Googling "john williams agent"? The first hit is this page, which lists an agent who is allegedly his. Naturally, this is on a random Internet site, so be careful that you are able to validate that it's really his agent and not some con artist who will book you with John Williams, the puppeteer. Comet Tuttle (talk) 20:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Or John Williams the classical guitar player. --TammyMoet (talk) 10:31, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Gorfaine/Schwartz Agency, Inc. lists him as one of their composers on their web page[9] --Pleasantman (talk) 15:15, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seven dwarfs, seven samurai

Any connection? 78.146.231.126 (talk) 21:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are 7 of both of them. --Jayron32 21:54, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Snow White is a fairy tale dating back hundreds of years. Seven Samurai is a movie from 1954. If you want to claim that the Disney movie is related to Seven Samurai, keep in mind that the Disney movie was released before Seven Samurai. So, you'd be claiming that, for some reason, Kurosawa watched the Disney cartoon and decided to change the dwarfs to samurai, give them entirely new names and personalities, get rid of Snow White and the witch, forget about the whole apple thing, replace the forest with a Japanese village, and drop everything about the animals being helpful servants. Pretty much, he'd just keep the fact that the stories both take place somewhere on a little blue-green planet somewhere in space. -- kainaw 21:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea if there is any connections between the stories. I'd guess no, but I'm no historian/linguist/etc but you sound like the kind of person who would enjoy this page: 7_(number). Aaadddaaammm (talk) 22:02, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And exactly what Kainaw describes did happen to Seven Samurai, not for the seven dwarves though. "Its influence can be most strongly felt in the western The Magnificent Seven (1960), a film specifically adapted from Seven Samurai. Director John Sturges took Seven Samurai and adapted it to the Old West, with the Samurai replaced by gunslingers." Seven Samurai. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 22:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That is not exactly what I described. Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven have very similar plot lines. The Seven Dwarfs and Seven Samurai have nothing by trivial plot elements in common. -- kainaw 02:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder what the chances are of Kurosawa seeing SWATSD. Was it distributed in Japan? 78.146.231.126 (talk) 23:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to imdb, it was released in Japan in 1950. Seven Samurai came out in 1954. Woogee (talk) 01:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Many directors, Kurasawa included, are students of film worldwide. Even if there was not widespread release of some movie in Japan, it is likely that he was familiar with it. --Jayron32 02:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Snow White story probably has a closer connection to The Seven Little Foys than it does to the Samurai. Although the thought of the Samurai marching to war singing the "Hi-Ho" song is an interesting mental picture. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots03:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
George Romero once said he wanted to do a remake with women which he would title The Magnificent 14. Pepso2 (talk) 03:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Vaguely related to that, though not much to the OP's question, was this Carnac joke: "Divine Right ... Describe half of Raquel Welch!" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:05, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And then there is Snow White and the Seven Samurai, which is a poor article, and the Tom Holt website page about the book is not that much better. Here the dwarves and the Samurai are the same beings, or maybe not. Bielle (talk) 04:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Probably not, but A Bug's Life is a retelling of that story.... Kingsfold (talk) 18:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Guitar Center

Does Guitar Center just MATCH the lowest price advertised, or will they actually LOWER it? I'm looking at this Gretsch 5120, and on most sites it goes for $699, and that price is also on Guitarcenter.com So, is that the only price they'll stay at, or will it go even cheaper to be the "Guaranteed Lowest Price" ? Moptopstyle1 21:53, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you contacted your local Guitar Center? They will likely answer your questions over the phone or in person. I'm a Sam Ash man myself, but I've used Guitar Center for some stuff before. They seem like reasonable people at my local store, and I don't think they'd laugh at me behind my back if I asked this kind of question of them. --Jayron32 21:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I have asked them if they match prices in China! ha! They said they don't! I wish they did! You can get a Gibson, Seriously, for $200! But, I guess I could ask them. But the nearest Guitar Center is an hour 1/2 away from me. So... Moptopstyle1 22:05, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Call them?! Phone lines remove any distance... Gazhiley (talk) 13:46, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Lennon 2

What kind of impact did he have on society when he was alive? Moptopstyle1 22:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See The Beatles, John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Imagine (song) for a start. He was a wildly successful performer in a band, had good success as a solo artist and was known to be vocal about his thoughts on all manner of things political. ny156uk (talk) 23:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also see more popular than Jesus for his own reference to his (and the Beatles') impact on society. -- kainaw 05:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You could say he was responsible for the end of the Vietnam war. And you could also say he gave us some of the most enduring popular music of the 20th century. Really, however, measuring the impact of one man on modern Western society is a job for future generations. --TammyMoet (talk) 10:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The second statement is demonstrably true. The first statement is not. I assume you were being funny with that one. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots10:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I was trying to prove a point. Anyone can claim that someone else did something and should be held in high esteem for it: however, the people whose judgement will count are the historians who will write after we're all dead. Anyway, people will argue about things like influence regardless. --TammyMoet (talk) 19:28, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Beatles recordings remain available 40 years after they broke up, which is pretty good longevity for pop culture. Hard telling what will be of interest in another 40-50 years. The "British Invasion" in general had a significant impact on the direction of pop music. Lennon's somewhat incredulous (and misinterpreted) comment about being "bigger than Jesus" caused a significant ruckus at the time, but that was about it. The Beatles' influence was largely in pop culture, not politics so much. Plenty of other artists had things to say about the Vietnam war, but since it dragged on to about 5 years after the Beatles broke up, that will give you an idea how much influence they had on it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots13:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alice in Wonderland

Was that movie about Alice going on a drug trip? Cause she eats a mushroom or something and then goes to the Wonderful land of Oz. ha, ha. Okay, just wherever she went. Moptopstyle1 02:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The drug references in Alice are rather overt, the "eat me" cakes and "drink me" drinks which mess up Alice's perception of the world seem so. Such references are themselves the basis for the Jefferson Airplane song "White Rabbit". Don't confuse Alice in Wonderland with the Wizard of Oz, which has its own drug references (poppies... poppies...) Completely different stories. But yes, you are not the first to notice those allusions. --Jayron32 03:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was joking about the "Wizard of Oz" thing. Ha. It really does seem like "Alice In Wonderland" would be a very "druggie" movie. Especially with a lot of the psychedelic scenes. It almost seems like the song "Lucy in The Sky With Diamonds" belongs on the soundtrack. Moptopstyle1 06:03, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've never noticed the drug themes in "The Wizard of Oz." The poppies would be a direct hit to heroin, but what about "Emerald City"? it's designed to look like "Crystals" isn't it? And maybe how the "Good Witch Of The North" made it "Snow" when they fell asleep in the "poppies." "Pixie dust" possibly? I've always thought "The Wizard of Oz" was a clean movie! ha, ha. Moptopstyle1 06:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are aware that the movie The Wizard of Oz predates most of the slang drug names you mention, and that the book it is based on predates them by a long way? DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also that Alice in Wonderland (the Disney film released in 1951) is based on Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Carroll's 1865 novel) and both of these predate 1960s drug culture (with its use of Psilocybin mushrooms)? AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 15:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
To make things a little clearer for my answer; the "poppies" thing was the only overt drug reference from TWoO. However, while the Alice stuff predates the 60's drug culture by about a century, it certainly does not predate drugs. Laudanum and Opium were well known to Carroll's time; Samuel Taylor Coleridge was openly using drugs to "enhance" his creativity some 50 years before Carroll even! The 60's did not invent drug use... --Jayron32 18:29, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't claim they did, though perhaps my answer wasn't clear. The 1960s were the decade in which mushrooms were popularised and 1960s drug culture influenced the depictions of drug trips that the OP is talking about. The comparison was to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, not The Lotos-Eaters. AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 09:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This site gives some more information: "In the Victorian era there were no drug laws like we know them. Opium, cocaine, and laudanum (a painkiller that contained opium) were used for medicinal purposes, and could be obtained from a pharmacist...So in Carroll's days it was not uncommon to experience the effect of being 'high', whether or not accidentally. However, it was definitely not Carroll's intention to write a book about drugs: he wanted to entertain a little girl whom he loved. No evidence has ever been found that linked Carroll to drug use." Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's an example of trying to apply a modern context to something from a long time ago. It reminds me of that guy who wrote a book about how Lincoln was gay (despite having 4 children). In those days, men and women both wrote effusively in letters to each other. It never occurred to them that someone with an agenda would try to read something into it a century or two later, and it likely never occurred to Lewis Carroll either. And there was a different attitude toward drugs. I recall reading something about how Freud was at one point a proponent of cocaine, because it made his patients feel so much better. Unfortunately, it had side effects, and he had to stop prescribing it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots13:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Freud went further and advocated cocaine, which was then relatively new to western science, as a general stimulant for well people, not just patients with mental or physical ailments, because he believed it was non-addictive and that prolonged use was neither physically nor mentally harmful. Events proved him wrong, of course. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 00:52, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

December 8

Most prolific voice actor

Who is the most prolific voice actor? jc iindyysgvxc (my contributions) 05:16, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be surprised if anyone has done more voice work than Mel Blanc. He did tons of work every year for almost 60 years. -- kainaw 05:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Currently working, I would say Frank Welker and Billy West are pretty prolific. Livewireo (talk) 15:52, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Other voice actors who appear in LOTS of stuff nowadays include
  • Carlos Alazraqui, who as a live actor plays Deputy Garcia on Reno 911!; his voice work is pretty extensive. You'd know him best as the Taco Bell Chihuahua, but the rest of his work is all over the place.
  • Mark Hamill (yes THAT Mark Hamill) has quietly made quite a career as a voice actor. He's got a quite a versitile range of voices that he does; but he's best known as The Joker in just about any animated Batman series for the past 15-20 years. He also has numerous voices around the Adult Swim universe.
  • Hank Azaria does about 3/4ths of the voices on The Simpsons, which of itself would make him one of the most prolific voice actors working.
  • Harry Shearer does most of the rest of the voices that Hank Azaria doesn't do for The Simpsons. Other than the Simpson family themselves, Hank and Harry do almost every other voice in the series.
  • Brendon Small, most famous for Metalocalypse and Home Movies, also shows up all over Adult Swim
  • Seth Green also does a LOT of voice work, besides his live action stuff, mostly for Family Guy and Robot Chicken.
--Jayron32 18:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TV show about technology ending in concentration camps

Maybe 10-20 years ago I saw a (I think) PBS show about technology along the lines of James Burke's Connections in which one episode ended at the site of a German concentration camp with the host or narrator reaching down and pulling up a handful of soil that included the ashes of victims. I could be wrong about it being strictly about technology or part of a series but I don't think it was only about WW2/Germany/concentration camps. I looked at the short descriptions of the Connections episodes and didn't see it there but the descriptions are not very detailed. My memory of the scene isn't of James Burke either, but again, it was years ago. Any body remember this? If someone can answer I will double my recent donation to WP. TIA! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.234.6.239 (talk) 07:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, here's an answer: "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." --Anonymous, 08:25 UTC, December 8, 2009.
Probably this famous scene from Jacob Bronowski's The Ascent of Man. Save your money, give it to something deserving. meltBanana 10:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's it, thanks so much! Comments notwithstanding I will double my donation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.234.6.239 (talk) 04:23, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, I hope you realise on re-watching the clip that Bronowski was saying the very opposite of what your query title implies. His point was that the concentration camps, although incidentally using some technology, arose from an ideology that was certain of its own correctness, rather than from Science which by definition is founded on the principle that its current assumptions might be disproven or superceded in the future. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 00:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Right, right. I didn't mean to say that tech = camps, just that I thought the show was about technology (again not precisely true but I still had "Connections" on the brain) and that the episode ended at a camp. But don't elevate Science above any other form of human endeavor or passion, it has fallen again and again to certainty in its own correctness with pretty ugly consequences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.234.6.239 (talk) 06:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but that is "bad science" as practised incompetently by "bad scientists", just as there are many "bad religion/religious practitioners", "bad politics/polititians" etc. Properly conducted, Science is never "certain" of anything, it only deals in likelihoods and the utility of its latest theories/models in giving answers that appear to correspond with reality - this is fundamental to its nature. Check out Falsifiability. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 01:22, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rest In Peace John Lennon

Is the murderer of John Lennon, Mark David Chapman, still in prison? and if he is, is there any possibility he might face the death penalty? Which I surely doubt he would now after, 39 years, but, it is never too late.

And also, when John Lennon went to art school a while before the Beatles, did any of his sketches make it out into the public? Is there any existence of his sketches?

In addition, is there any suggestions of ways you can remember his life on this day? (for those who do not know, today is the 39th anniversary of when he was murdered in New York City)

It'd be nice if people can go to John Lennon's Talk Page and leave a "+" or anything in Respect of him. Thank you. Moptopstyle1 08:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This[10] is a misuse of wikipedia, as it has nothing to do with improving the article. Hence I removed it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots09:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to answer your first question with a question... Have you read the Mark David Chapman article? For the second, no, there is no chance he'd face the death penalty. He's already been sentenced. Dismas|(talk) 09:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Go to google and enter ["john lennon" sketches] for starters. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots09:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the interest of accuracy, today is the 29th anniversary of John's passing, not the 39th. As to his artwork, he wrote two books in the sixties, In His Own Write and A Spaniard in the Works. Both books are illustrated with his own artwork.Chief41074 (talk) 15:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to see how people are remembering John Lennon, a good place to look would be Yoko Ono's website.

1st, my apologizes for saying it was the "39th Anniversary". I've been corrected that it's the 29th. Sorry. 2nd, I don't blame that thing for being deleted, I had a feeling that would happen. My apologizes once more. 3rd, Mark David Chapman, when first sentenced, should have been sentenced to the death penalty. 4th, thanks. Moptopstyle1 00:16, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As noted in the Chapman article,[11] he was charged with second degree murder and eventually pleaded guilty. Capital punishment was not on the table. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots01:04, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And about the whole adding a "+" or something to his talk page, I did that to show respect, and that was the only thing I had available to me to do that sort of thing. My apologizes for breaking that rule, but I did it with Respect in my heart. I shan't do it again laddy! But I shall do this!!! "I bet you'd never guess what I'm in for?! HEE! HEE! HEE!" (That was for you John) Moptopstyle1 05:11, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No harm, no foul. Wikipedia just doesn't do "memorials". If you want to see what the Beatles were like at their peak, watch A Hard Day's Night and Help! for some insight. The latter was a pseudo-James Bond kind of thing, while the former is a nearly perfect parody of what Beatlemania was about. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots05:15, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for understanding, and I've seen and own the both of those movies. That's where I quoted the "You'll never guess what I'm in for" thing. It's from A Hard Day's Night. ha. Moptopstyle1 00:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interpretation of Barbie Girl lyrics

In the song Barbie Girl, there is a line which goes "Come jump in, _____, let us do it again" where I can't be sure what the correct interpretation of the words in the blank is. According to the lyrics published in court documents, it is "be my friend," but after hearing the song many times, I have to say it sounds closer to "bimbo friend" (there is a mention of bimbo elsewhere in the song). Web sources are split relatively evenly between the two interpretations. Which interpretation is more correct? 128.2.251.173 (talk) 12:55, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it on youtube? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots14:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the video. The line seems to be at 1:54, and sounds (and looks) like he's saying "bimbo friend". It's not unusual for published lyrics to differ from the performed lyrics; musicians vary the wording sometimes. Fribbler (talk) 14:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That link doesn't work. It just takes you to the youtube page, where it says, "This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions." ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Works here in Oirland. Maybe try a related video? Fribbler (talk) 15:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This site suggests "..bimbo friend..", which is what it sounds like on the video. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:31, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so this is not an advertisement for the Barbie Doll. "Bimbo" seems to appear several times in the lyrics. Obviously the doll manufacturers wouldn't use that term, but songwriters certainly might. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article makes it obvious that it wasn't an advertising jingle and was in fact the point of a lawsuit, so I'm not sure why you're stating that fact as if it's something you've uncovered through detective work. Ironically enough, the tune now is used as a jingle by the very folks who (unsuccessfully) tried to sue it out of existence. Matt Deres (talk) 14:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Powerthirst bodybuilder

Who is the way over-the-top pumped bodybuilder in the Powerthirst video and other internet memes? Is that how he really looked or is the picture altered? DarkAudit (talk) 16:05, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm pretty sure that this is the source image. I can't track the picture any further back than that, though. It may well be an altered picture, but it's within the realm of the possible: you can do a LOT if you just spend 40 hours/week in the gym and take life-threatening doses of steroids for a couple years. --M@rēino 15:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I play this guitar tab?

Hi. I am new to the guitar and have been learning to play some riffs using guitar tabs. However I am confused by part of one tab shown below.

e-----------
B--3--3--3--
G--2--2--0--
D--0--0--0--
A-----------
E--2--2--3--

Now, I understand that the 0s mean that you play an open string and that if there is no number you just don't play the string. What is confusing me is that this is the first time I have seen a situation where there is a string with no number (i.e. the A string) but numbers on the strings above and below. On a literal interpretation this would seem to suggest that you have to not pick the A string, but pick E, D, G and B (with D being an open string, and G being an open string on the last column of numbers). Is that what you are meant to do? If so, I didn't realise that you could do that. If that is what you do, can somebody please tell me what the technique to skip a string is called? For some reason, I can't find an explicit mention of how to interpret this on the guitar tab sites, perhaps it is so common that they don't think it needs explaining. Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks CreepingOnTheCeiling (talk) 17:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You've got it right. If I were reading it, I'd pluck the B, G, D strings with my fingers and the low E with my thumb. (Often the unplayed strings are marked with an "x".) You can't strum it easily, though; it's for picking. Something beginning guitarists don't realize sometimes: you don't have to use all six strings all the time. In fact, it's best not to a lot of the time. (Says the man who took that to an extreme and started playing ukulele instead.) --jpgordon::==( o ) 17:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You could also play it strum style. Your left hand could play it two different ways, using either the thumb OR index finger to play the bass notes on the low-E string, and the remaining fingers to hold the other strings depending on which was more comfortable. I tend to use my thumb to play this chord. The trick is you can "mute" the A-string with the thumb, basically when you play that F# note with your thumb, you roll it forward far enough to "just touch" the A-string which will mute it. Muting the high-e string is also easy, just let your palm rest on it so it doesn't sound. You'll find that with some practice you can mute just about any string while sounding the string immediately above or below it, which means you can play chords like this while strumming. --Jayron32 18:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, this is a D major chord, with the third in the bass, i.e. D/F#. Therefore, if you were to strum it, it wouldn't matter a lot if you allowed the A string to ring (because it is part of the chord), but normally you would want to mute the e sting. --NorwegianBlue talk 18:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all your comments, much appreciated. All this talk of muting strings has made be think about something else. The whole song is Highway to Hell, and much later on the tab does have 'x' marks, which I understood to be mute symbols. There are similar marks in the tab for Walk This Way, specififcally here, where there is an open E followed by an x:
* E -----------------------
* B -----------------------
* D -----------------------
* G -------2-------2-------
* A -0-1-2---0-1-2---------
* E ------------------0--x-
Now, I have been playing this by striking the E string and letting it ring briefly before muting it. I am doing this because I previously read that it what you are meant to do. There is also a part of the same tab that reads:
* E --------------
* B --------------
* D --------------
* G -------2------
* A -0-1-2--------
* E ---------0xxx-
Which I think means play an open E, then mute it, then play two more muted Es.
Putting it together with your comments, I am under the impression that:
  • A number followed by an 'x' means that you let it ring and then mute it
  • With a number followed by several 'x' symbols, the first 'x' means mute the previous note, the other 'x' symbols mean to keep playing the muted note
  • Or does it mean that you play the numbered note and then play each 'x' as a separate muted note
  • If there is no number or 'x', you don't hit the string, except:
  • If you have to hit strings above and below it, you mute it before hitting it
  • Sometimes you can just not mute it because it is part of the chord
Does that all sound correct? Thanks again for all your help. CreepingOnTheCeiling (talk) 20:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
One of the troubles with tablature is the lack of standardization; especially using the sort of tabs you find posted in online TAB databases, it is sometimes hard to tell exactly what is meant. The second problem with TAB is that it lacks any rhythm notation. There's no way to tell if a series of notes is meant to be played straight, dotted rhythm, eighth notes, sizteenth notes, triplets, etc. TAB is actually a pretty rough way to play music all alone. My best recommendation is to play along with the TAB while the original track is playing; it will help a LOT to hear what the original performance sounded like, to understand the nuances in the way things work. For example, the sort of "hammer mute" you note, where you sound a note then immediately mute it, versus a true mute, where the string is muted the whole time. It should also be noted that mutes also sound different; you will here tone difference depending on which fret your finger is near when you mute, and some locations (the "chimes") are actually not mutable at all. The best solution is to "play along" with the track while reading the tab, that way you can say for certain what every bend, slide, hammer, and mute is really supposed to sound like. --Jayron32 20:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you follow Jayron's advice, you might also want to slow the original down a bit, without changing the pitch. This is easily done using Audacity: Effect|Change tempo. Enter bpm from and to, and enter a larger value for "from" than for "to". (Just for the purpose of slowing it down, it doesn't really matter if the beat-per-minute value you enter in the "from" field is correct, just make sure it's faster than the "to" value). I've found that trick useful for figuring out exactly what's going on when the music is fast. --NorwegianBlue talk 21:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. Just wanted to say thanks for all of the help, it has made things much clearer and I really appreciate it. I am planning to install Audacity and see if I can use it to record from the guitar too, just need to figure out the right cable! Thanks again CreepingOnTheCeiling (talk) 00:29, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jazz song requests

I'm quickly becoming a fan of jazz music. Right now my hands down favorite is Blue in Green by Miles Davis. It's soft and smooth, easy and melancholy, with Bill Evans' light piano in the background, with soothing sounds from Mile's trumpet and John Coltrane's sax. See YouTube video here: [12]

Anywho, I'm wondering if anyone could please point out similar songs to Blue in Green - similar mood and feel. I realize that's asking you to interpret the song from my point of view, but any close suggestions would be appreciated!

Thx Rangermike (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want instrumental only, or vocal as well? (The entire Kind of Blue is pretty amazing, as is most any Miles from that period. Or Trane.) --jpgordon::==( o ) 20:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A great companion album to Kind of Blue is John Coltrane's My Favorite Things. Its recorded during the same time period (two years later), features the same sort of modal composition as Kind of Blue, and the same sort of "cool jazz" feel to it. The entire work is 4 covers of Broadway tunes, but the way that Coletrane imagines them makes them totally his. If you liked Kind of Blue, you should also like My Favorite Things. --Jayron32 20:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great leads, thanks! I'm looking for instrumentals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rangermike (talkcontribs) 20:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with above. Also Miles Sketches of Spain, Modern Jazz Quartet No Sun in Venice, Mingus Ah Um, Lee Morgan The Sidewinder, Bennie Wallace Twilight Time, Coleman Hawkins Body and Soul, Stan Getz Focus. Pepso2 (talk) 20:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Blue train - john coltrane, enjoy, also try searches using keyword 'blue note' Perry-mankster (talk) 21:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Movie about NRIs (Non Resident Indians)

Watched this movie long-long back, so back that even I (who has a very sharp memory of everything)forgot almost everything about it! Now I am trying hard to guess that film's name so that I could watch it again. Please help me remember it. Only things I can recall are : It stars Saeed Jaffery who plays the role of an Indian living in the west along with other such fellows and (it's about that usual cultural clash of India-west) It is something of a satire about young Indians trying to fit in westren soceity among their other friends, there has the usual arranged marriage issue. One scence I distinctly remember is Saeed Jaffery saying "..mein usse yahaan kaam karvaroga - uske chutron pe joota rakh ke...( मैं उससे काम करवाउंगा - उसके चूतरों पे जूता रख के )" etc... and other scence I can never forget is when a Punjabi looking girl (wearing T-shirt) suddenly raises her shirt to bare her breast while standing by a window to seduce her cousin or maybe boy friend...kindly tell me what film it was...no it is not Chicken Tikka Masala....

My Beautiful Laundrette? I think I remember a girl baring her breast in order to attract her cousin, whom we already know (or soon find out) to be gay and involved with a white guy played by Daniel Day Lewis in one of his earliest film roles. Catrionak (talk) 20:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


 Jon Ascton  (talk) 19:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

December 9

Word usage in encyclopedia articles - the word "run"

There's a lot of things I can't stand in some fictional subjects in the encyclopedia. Mostly, I'll live with them until I figure out how to fix them.

But I've run into a "blocking" problem with the word "run" used in the context, "the show's run".

While I buy that this is acceptable in informal English usage, it does not "sound" right to me in an encyclopedia article; it just sounds too informal in an article. I see it a lot on English Wikipedia, and I just shrug, because I don't know the fix.

Mostly, this is no big deal. But now I'm working on an article (page) at Commons, and I want to translate the text for speakers of other languages for whom the page may be relevant (I plan to use Google Translate because that's the best I know how to do).

Before I do that I want the paragraph "perfect" (ahem). I've got it that way (yes, my own subjective standard), except this one word, "run".

Here's the paragraph:

Babylon 5 (1993–1998 plus spin-offs) is an epic American science fiction television series and fictional universe created, produced, and largely written by J. Michael Straczynski. The show centers around the Babylon 5 space station, a focal point for politics, diplomacy, and wars. The series is noted for its heavy reliance on pre-planned story arcs over its five-year run, sometimes described as a "novel for television".

The equivalent sentence to the problem one on English Wikipedia is:

The regular series aired from January 26, 1994 and ran for five full seasons, winning two Hugo Awards for Best Dramatic Presentation and two Emmy Awards—for visual effects and makeup.

While the verb form "ran" seems less annoying, the sentence is too long and detailed for Commons, I feel. It's not really an improvement if I just chop off the awards sub-clause, though.

On Wikipedia we have the luxury of rambling on about what we mean; on Commons we do not; even a three sentence paragraph seems to be pushing it (the German version only uses two), so I'm trying to write concisely (WP:TLDR and all that).

Can anybody think of a better word to use than "run" without getting all wordy and verbose about what we mean by it? —Aladdin Sane (talk) 02:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is perfectly standard usage - "run" can be (and frequently is) used as a noun to mean "a. A continuous period of operation, especially of a machine or factory. b. The production achieved during such a period: a press run of 15,000 copies." [13] So I think you need to rethink your crusade? 218.25.32.210 (talk) 03:46, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
An alternate wording would be "air" and "aired" and "airing" but I still feel you have no grounds to stand on in your original complaint. 218.25.32.210 (talk) 03:49, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It seems the OP considers "run" to be kind of slangy, but it's in very common usage - as you say, for any continuous series. I recall when the Chicago Bulls held what was likely their swan song championship celebration in Grant Park, and one of them (maybe Jordan, maybe Rodman) said, "We've had a good run." That's typical usage. A short word, and a good word. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots05:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, these answers are helping me understand my question better.
I'm kinda' liking 218.25.32.210's term "aired" since it has a technical meaning behind it of "transmission". That starts getting specific for me, and I like it when that happens.
What it's actually about, that you're helping me understand, is not the "somewhat informal" English usage, what it's really about is what happens to this usage when I translate it in to a language I don't know? Per 218.25.32.210's reference there are 30 noun definitions for the word in English. Per Wiktionary, there are 26 (I had already checked, this definition is there: "The amount of something made."). The thing is, with a word that common, 26-30 definitions in English, there are almost certainly 26 or so definitions for it in Croatian. My question becomes, "Is this usage likely one of them?" At that point, I guess the question goes beyond the scope of this Help Desk, because it becomes foreign language related, rather than entertainment related. I didn't notice a translations Help Desk. Did I miss it? —Aladdin Sane (talk) 06:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Language Desk will help you with translations. If you're concerned with ambiguity in translation, base yours on "air" and such. But so long as we're playing in the English sandbox, don't piss on our "run" - that's one of the more poetic uses of the word, says me. 218.25.32.210 (talk) 06:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Some purists might also consider "aired" to be slangy, although it's in very common usage in broadcasting. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots06:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have found Google translate to be fairly useful. I was thinking that a good synonym for "run" in terms of a TV show, a broadway play, a series of championships, or whatever, could be "duration". A run of newspapers or some other document could be more like a "set". "Run" conveys the idea of a flow of some kind. In fact, a creek or river is also sometimes called a "run" (the most famous probably being Bull Run). Do you see the common idea among all these terms? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots06:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What Purcell piece is interpreted by Pamelia Kurstin?

Thereminist Pamelia Kurstin has a piece on her myspace page here that is simply titled "Purcell," and sounds very much like the style of Henry Purcell. It is presumably from a live performance and features a backing track of harpsichord ground bass and several layers of theremin textures presumably emulating strings.

What composition is this performance based on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.62.112.57 (talk) 16:37, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's the aria "When I am Laid in Earth" (also referred to as "Dido's Lament") from Dido and Aeneas. -- JackofOz (talk) 08:15, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Movie with Male Breast Cancer???

I swear I'm not making this up, I distinctly remember there being a movie about a male football player or someone being diagnosed with breast cancer, or at least running the risk of getting it. What could I possibly be thinking of?! Jared (t)16:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know of the movie, but the scenario is entirely possible. Men have less breast tissues than women, but not none, and a small percentage of men (much smaller than in women) do get breast cancer. Perhaps our Breast cancer article could mention this a little more prominently - currently it's only alluded to in the 'Society and culture' section, which does however contain the following external link: Male Breast Cancer Awareness Week. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 17:11, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Probably the most well-known male sufferer is/was actor Richard Roundtree. Grutness...wha? 21:59, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not a movie, but a character in Oz (the prison show on HBO) got breast cancer. -- kainaw 17:41, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Best Zombie plan idea?

I have no idea why, but iv been thinking about a zombie outbreak, or infected outbreak alot latly. i want to know, if even possible, what the best plan would be in general. weather it is to make a stronghold, keep moving, or head to a remote place and hide out. i'd like to hear some creative stuff, if anyone doesnt just think this is a stupid question lol. after all this is mostly for entertainment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielTrox (talkcontribs) 19:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You might like to read The Zombie Survival Guide, or maybe contact the University of Chicago Zombie Readiness Task Force for advice. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Plan 9 from Outer Space is a well-known and highly-regarded documentary on the subject. As the narrator says, "Future events like these will affect you in the future." ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots19:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also check out non-fiction: The Magic Island (1929) by William Seabrook and The Serpent and the Rainbow (1985). Pepso2 (talk) 22:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ah, well thank you all


Dude! I've been thinking about Zombie Attacks to! You can use the movie "I Am Legend (film)" as a great example of what to do.

I for one, plan to get a lot of Amo, guns, supplies, and head up to the Mountains. My idea is mostly based around the movie "Red Dawn", but that's about World War 3 in America, but that's also a good example. Video games like "Left 4 Dead" are good examples on how to kill zombies. Um, if you do plan to run, and people in the Government become Zombies, throw away your cell phones and GPS's, because they can track you that way. Ha. Play "Polka Music" to see if that'll kill zombies like how it killed Aliens in "Mars Attacks."

Ha, ha. Hope that helped. Moptopstyle1 01:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I am Legend is of much help, since the creatures in that film don't come out in the daylight, meaning they were more likely vampires rather than zombies. And the original version of the film and the book they were both loosely based on specifically considered them vampires. 99.166.95.142 (talk) 16:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

well my plan so far, is to get about 7 of the best people i know that can use a gun and know a lil millitary tactics as i do. we'll head to walmart super center (which has guns, ammo, food, and entertainment. as well as lighterfluid and fun zombie killing stuff) post up there for a wile then dicide what to do from there.--Talk Shugoːː 18:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, yeah, I forgot the creatures in "I Am Legend" don't come out in the day time. My bad. Ha. The Wal-Mart idea is brilliant. Honestly, when Zombies are on the prowl, you pretty much have to break the law and steal. So, stores like "Wal-Mart" "Big 5", and more sports stores, are great for packing up on ammo and guns. Also look into getting supplies (ex. food, bottled water) at local gas stations if you immediately started running. You should most likely drive a pick up truck so you can carry people and stuff in the back. "Red Dawn" is a great example of the survival techniques to use, but again, the movie is about World War 3, NOT zombies. Moptopstyle1 ("I Feel Fine.") (talk) 03:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Runescape question

What does NPC stand for?Accdude92 (talk to me!) (sign) 20:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Non-playable character"; you may see it written as "non-player character". See also RuneScape Wikia. Xenon54 / talk / 20:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
NPC would have been a good place to look for this. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note that it's not exclusive to RuneScape; any game can use the term. Vimescarrot (talk) 21:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have never heard "non-playable character"; D&D pioneered the term, AFAIK, and it always was "non-player character". Comet Tuttle (talk) 23:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


December 10

George Harrison Film

I heard that Martin Scorsese was going to make a film about his life, has production begun yet? If so, when will it be released? I read on George Harrison's page, that the article stating about the film, was retrieved in 2007. So, maybe "it is" being filmed. Thanks. (I love Wikipedia, and I'm not one of those people who gets mad and quits it) Moptopstyle1 01:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The IMDB has an entry for the movie as "Untitled George Harrison Documentary (2010)". They say it's in post-production and they don't have any release date yet. --Anonymous, 02:32 UTC, December 10, 2009.

Whoo! Thank you! Moptopstyle1 05:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Song

I wrote a different version of the John Lennon song "Imagine" for Wikipedia. You know, like how the other people did with the "I Will Survive" or whatever songs for Wikipedia? Is it okay if it's added to Wikipedia? Ah, it's kind of tacky, so since this is the "Entertainment" section............Enjoy.


Here it is.

Imagine there's no vandals.
It's easy if you try
No stubs on some pages.
But perfect articles all around.
Imagine all the Users
Living for today
Imagine there's no citations.
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no cyber-fighting too
Imagine all the Users
Living life in peace
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And Wiki will be as one
Imagine no typos.
I wonder if you can
No need for footnotes or deletions.
A brotherhood of man..
Imagine all the people
Sharing all Wiki.
Including all the commons.
But that might be hard to do.
I hope someday you'll join us
And Wiki will live as one.

Moptopstyle1 01:27, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to read our article scansion. DJ Clayworth (talk) 01:29, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I said it was tacky.. Moptopstyle1 03:51, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also check out Wikipedia:Reference desk/Guidelines, which tells you what the reference desk is and is not for. Staecker (talk) 01:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an idea for something a bit more upbeat. Maybe somewhat different words could be written for Jiminy Cricket's 1950s "Encyclopedia song". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. I'll see what I can do. Moptopstyle1 06:46, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wendy Williams

Is she a "Transsexual" person? Moptopstyle1 05:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Which Wendy Williams? Assuming you mean the talk show host or the deceased punk singer, then no, they have both been female since birth. There is a transexual Wendy Williams, but she is neither of the above. --Jayron32 05:13, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The talk show host, sorry for not clarifying. Moptopstyle1 05:24, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, she is unambiguously a woman, and has been since birth. That would have, of course, been clear had you simply read the article about her. How much work do you really need the refdesk to do for you? --Jayron32 05:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry. I'm a newbie. I like to hear other opinions, but I'm learning that "that's not what the reference desk is for. It is for the most factual answer." My apologizes. Next time, I'll look it up. And I have read her article, I just was not satisfied. My apologizes. Moptopstyle1 06:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

      • Well, it isn't hard to figure out that she's a genetic and biological female from reading the article. I will note that her appearance is a common topic in hip hop lyrics, where the exact mistake that Moptopstyle1 makes is made overt (quite insultingly, I might add) in many songs. However, the fact that she has given birth precludes any other conclusion. There are lots of things plastic surgery can do, but medical science still cannot make it so that post-operative transexuals can have natural babies. She is a woman, regardless of what people think of her appearance. --Jayron32 16:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


You may delete this question....Moptopstyle1 01:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy television shows

Please recommend shows where the actors/presenters are cheerful or enthusiastic about what they are doing/acting. Mainly where everyone seems to be having fun. Mythbusters, Glee and Doctor Who (mostly) are examples of such shows. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.8.234 (talk) 08:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Entertainment Tonight comes to mind. Also, most any local news show - especially the morning shift. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots08:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Where you live will affect which TV shows you can watch. In Britain, I'd recommend many panel games: QI, Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Have I Got News For You, Mock the Week. Of course, the fact that they employ comedians - rarely funny if they don't appear to be enjoying their work - helps. Vimescarrot (talk) 09:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"The Golden Girls" is a personal favorite of mine, and after you finish watching it, you leave with a smile. Check out the article for more info. Hope you find the show of your dreams. Moptopstyle1 ("I Feel Fine.") (talk) 03:06, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Top Gear. As well as most any '80s show such as Growing Pains, Punky Brewster, Who's the Boss, etc. Dismas|(talk) 03:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UP movie adventure book

In the movie Up, in the scrap book compiled by Ellie,the title of the book, a few scribbles, and the note at the end of one of the pages was written in French in the version I watched. Was it in French in the original English version, or was it in English? 117.194.225.26 (talk) 09:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the version I watched, it was in English. I'm surprised and impressed that they translated in-movie text like that. 86.166.148.95 (talk) 13:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since nearly all modern animation is done digitally (no one hand paints animation cells anymore), it is actually quite trivial to change the in-movie text like that. It probably is actually easier, in terms of labor and money, than re-recording the dialog and as simple and trivial as adding subtitles, so if you are going to go through the trouble to release the movie in different languages, I am not surprised... --Jayron32 16:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Have you ever done this? It is not "trivial". You have to typeset the text in the first place so that all languages will fit in the requested dimensions — better make the book much wider than required for English, because German is ~20% lengthier on average. Then you typeset it, using the appropriate fonts for Asian fonts, have it proofread a couple of times, and then you have to re-render all the frames that touch the book page. I'll agree it's easier logistically than the re-recording of voiceover, but changing subtitles would be way easier. Comet Tuttle (talk) 19:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Compared to old hand-painted cell animation, however, such changes are much easier. As you note, you merely need to plan ahead for multiple language versions, and I suspect most modern studios do. --Jayron32 19:36, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My quibble is with the blithe use of "trivial". Comet Tuttle (talk) 20:51, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, trivial in comparison. Will that do? --Anon, 21:32 UTC, December 10, 2009.
If this were an article, and that statement were in it, I'd change "quite trivial" to "far easier now". Comet Tuttle (talk) 22:33, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About an episode of Scrubs...

Last night, I just saw a re-run of Scrubs called "My Big Move" where Turk ignores Carla after he learned that J.D. and Carla had a kiss, then Turk forgives them. Then, there was also where Lindsay, who is a patient, was ignoring Dr. Cox. I was just wondering something: did Lindsay ever return in the series after Elliot resolved the situation? And if Lindsay was still mad at Dr. Cox, does this prove that people just have to live with other people not liking them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirdrink13309622 (talkcontribs) 21:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB is the place to go to find this out. It gives cast lists by episode, so you can find out if a character returned or not. Whether Lindsay was still mad or not proves nothing because a) another person might react differently and b) they are fictional characters. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

December 11

Robert Neale Lind

Robert Neale Lind ( Bob Lind) had a hit song that reached #5 on the charts in 1966-- " Elusive Butterfly" Wikipedia says that he was born in Baltimore, MARYLAND. Other sources on the internet claim that he was born in Baltimore, OHIO. Where was Mr. Lind's actual birthplace? ( Baltimore, Ohio is a small farmtown just outside of Lancaster, Ohio. I have a co- worker whose in- laws are from there and own a farm there)

Signed, just curious

Thank you, very much for your consideration in this matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.186.94.5 (talk) 03:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfounded Addition Request

Hi; I have an old 45 RPM Record with Railroad Bill on one side and a song called Northbay on the other.

I've noticed something about Northbay. It isn't on the internet. At all. It properly belongs in the category of Nuclear Protest Songs, but it isn't in there either. With 6 billion people on the earth and 312 million in the US where it was released, I have difficulty believing I'm the only one out there who still has this record, but were I to make an article about this song I would have no sources to reference. Is there a provision for this and do you have any advice on how to find a source?

The inability to find a source does not stem from an unwillingness to look for one, I assure you. I can't even find a trace of the company that released the song; Wilkow Records.

If you could tell me if there's a provision for completely unsupported articles or give me advice on source-finding that would be great. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SomedayNeverComes (talkcontribs) 03:51, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Theres actually lots of stuff out there that was recorded and placed for sale which almost nobody bought. The population of the world isn't what matters, its who bought that record. You may not be the only person to have bought it, but there are certainly records whose sales number in the triple digits or worse, and such records may not be notable enough to have garnered any attention at all. The internet is a wonderful storehouse of information, but even the internet is not omniscient. Just because it exists does not mean that anyone on the internet noticed it. It feels odd sometimes when we find something like this in the internet age, but it is by no means unusual. --Jayron32 06:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is a good question. Wikipedia is not for non-notable works of art. However, depressing as that is, there are alternatives. Wikia comes immediately to mind. Also, you should be aware that even here on Wikipedia we frequently use as a reference published sources that are not online. Many of these are called "books" (you may have heard of them). In every sense of the word I know, a record is every bit as published as a book. I hope you find a wiki that will let you document the song's existence. —Aladdin Sane (talk) 07:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You don't say who the record is by. Who is the artist? Also – and I'm not sure if this is the point Aladdin Sane is making or not – just because you can't find a mention of the record on the internet doesn't mean there are no sources out there. It might be mentioned in books or magazines. But without knowing the artist it's hard to say. --Richardrj talk email 08:40, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

meaning of song

One day, I was watching a rerun of Charlie's Angels. In one particular episode, there was this song called "If I Could See". (Apparently, the song was specifically written for that episode.) I was wondering what the song was about. Who has more information?24.90.204.234 (talk) 08:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1980's TV Shows

Hi

I was hoping to find articles on two American television shows from the 1980's. The first one falls into the sci-fi genre and the only things I can remember from this show is an episode/s where people peeled the skin of their own face and ate rats and the show was called "V". The second one was about a guy with a cool watch who could dissapear or go invisable or something like that. I can't remember if it was the name of the show or the name of the character, but all I remember was the name "Sam Casey".


THANKS

PS. please don't tell me these articles already exist and that I missed them somehow!