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== Request on 16:55:11, 23 June 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Mttocs ==
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Hello,

I've been trying to post a short article about WTI (Western Telematic, Inc.) for the past eight months and so far, I've had about eight versions of the article rejected.

Initially, the articles were rejected due to insufficient citation or lack of notability, but today I received a message from your reviewer that rejected my latest revision article based on insufficient context.

I think I've been able to address the citation and notability issues over the past eight revisions, but I'm confused as to how to address the context issue. Is the reviewer saying that I need to add more text to explain terms such as "console sever," "power-distribution-unit" and "automatic transfer switch," or do I merely need to link to existing Wikipedia articles that explain these terms, or is there something else that I'm missing?

Thanks,

Mttocs

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June 17

Request on 10:27:29, 17 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Samirsoormally


Hi there,

This article was declined for formatting but I am a bit confused as to what it is referring to. It had not been picked up on previous submissions so am wondering what it could be. I am sorry if I am missing something very simple.

Kind regards, Samir Soormally

Samirsoormally (talk) 10:27, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Samirsoormally, I'm afraid I don't see a serious formatting problem either. Perhaps Elee would explain the problem. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:32:32, 17 June 2015 review of submission by Hippynmagic

Hello team Wiki. I'm trying to submit this article about a singer who already has a wikipedia page in her native Polish. Which 'Peacock terms' should I delete? Many thanks Hippynmagic (talk) 18:32, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hippynmagic, I've taken a look at the draft, I don't see any peacockery. Perhaps Accents would explain the issue here. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:34, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:44:15, 17 June 2015 review of submission by Chrisfischer1

My page was rejected on grounds of notability, mainly "The scope of their activities is national or international in scale." I think that InnerCity Weightlifting is notable in this sense because it is a unique, and successful solution to a nation-wide problem (gang-violence). In addition, they plan on expanding, and have voiced their intentions. Also, they have received coverage and awards from large, multinational organizations such as ESPN, and Ernst and Young Entrepreneurs of the Year. I would love to elaborate, but I believe that InnerCity is notable enough to be accepted and its scope is national. Chrisfischer1 (talk) 20:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chrisfischer1 - the most obvious problem I see is that the "Media and recognition" section has no references at all - where are all those articles you mention? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:39, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

June 18

04:59:36, 18 June 2015 review of submission by Rich gitsch

I'm setting up a new article page, and all my References are outside webb pages. Is it more appropriate to list them as "References" or "External Links"?

Rich gitsch (talk) 04:59, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rich gitsch, if you are using a website as a source for the content of the article it is a Reference. External links are basically those sites that provide further in-depth information about the subject but you have not actually used as a reference, with the exception of the subject's own website, even if it is used as a reference it is also listed as an External link. See the Referencing for beginners and External links guides for further details. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

07:32:02, 18 June 2015 review of submission by Lmelk

I have rewritten the "Collection paragraph" from scratch, using new sources. However, this is the first time I'm doing this, so I would appreciate any comments on how to improve. Thanks Lmelk (talk) 07:32, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FYI - this is about a copyvio issue at User:Lmelk/Museion (Bozen). I'm not sure what the next step is, but I guess it may need admin tools. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Lmelk. I've approved your rewrite at User talk:Lmelk/Museion (Bozen)/Temp. It's now awaiting an administrator to move into your draft at User:Lmelk/Museion (Bozen). This may take a couple of days. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 13:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much --Lmelk (talk) 14:16, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

12:55:48, 18 June 2015 review of submission by 105.227.144.228


105.227.144.228 (talk) 12:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]


H O W to E N H A N C NUTRIENTS A S S I M I L A T I O N / C O N V E R S I O N

END OF REQUESTED TOPIC  : CATEG: NATURAL SCIENCES B I O L O G Y .

What is your question? Voceditenore (talk) 13:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)I think they intended to request an article. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:25:32, 18 June 2015 review of submission by Heatherer

Hi all. I'd like to point editors to a draft I submitted that I believe was wrongfully declined. The reviewing editor, Joseph2302, claims here that my draft copied this press release and violates Wikipedia's copyright policy, but I am confident that it does not. My draft is written in my own words based on numerous reliable, secondary sources (none of them being the press release in question). It's true I was hired by the article's subject to prepare the draft, but I declared my COI upon submitting and was careful to follow all guidelines. I've outlined exactly what happened on the draft's Talk page here. Could others take a look and let me know what they think? I'm also reaching out to Wikipedia:Copyright_problems to ask for the copy violation tag to be removed. Thanks! Heatherer (talk) 15:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Heatherer: For what it's worth the reviewed version doesn't look like a copyright violation to me, and the current version even slightly less so. When the text is heavily peppered with long proper names, like "Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group", "National Geographic Society's Council of Advisors", "Virginia Governor's Advisory Council", and "Virginia Foundation for Independent Colleges", the detection tool can exaggerate the likelihood of a violation. Unless Joseph2302 sees something different, I expect your submission will remain in the queue and be reviewed in due course. Worldbruce (talk) 07:24, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking a look, Worldbruce! Your explanation is not something I had considered, but it makes a lot of sense. I'm satisfied with how this issue has been resolved and I'm looking forward to a second review. Thanks! Heatherer (talk) 13:17, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:56:50, 18 June 2015 review of submission by Gregoryjamesaziz


Unable to find notable content on the subject. Would I be able get some help figuring out where and how to source the subject properly. As well as how to source or copyright the picture.

I would like to use all the information used in the draft, but the only place where it can be found is on the website. The information is not in print and not on any other websites or articles. Proving notability is turning out to be fairly difficult without many online sources. Thank You.

Gregoryjamesaziz (talk) 17:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Gregoryjamesaziz:What you would like to be in the draft doesn't really matter. To quote WP:NOR, "If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article about it."
This CBC article may help explain the scarcity of usable reliable sources ("We don’t like publicity here / I don’t want to be interviewed / OK, we’re done"). Aziz may understand that an article about oneself isn't necessarily a good thing. Something more company CEOs should understand if they don't want their comments about striking workers juxtaposed with their support of their daughter's show jumping, or don't want to read about how securities fraud charges were eventually dropped after a multi-million dollar settlement. Worldbruce (talk) 06:47, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

June 19

Request on 05:46:24, 19 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Schapma3


Hello - I was hoping to find out what the process is for resubmitting an article for draft for consideration. I had submitted one, but it was rejected. I fixed a bunch of the issues, but can't figure out how to resubmit.

Schapma3 (talk) 05:46, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Schapma3: I've resubmitted it for you. In future, don't delete the Articles for Creation history (the comment "<!-- Do not remove this line! -->" is a clue). The resubmit button is within that history. Worldbruce (talk) 06:57, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

11:22:36, 19 June 2015 review of draft by Ponolan


I would like to know if I can get an article approved for publication but withheld until a later date. Thanks. Ponolan (talk) 11:22, 19 June 2015 (UTC) Ponolan (talk) 11:22, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's up to you to submit the draft when you think it is ready, but the time it takes to be reviewed and whether it will be accepted or not cannot be predicted. Per WP:DEADLINE Wikipedia does not care about any external schedules. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:44, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of both of those facts. You didn't answer my question: is it possible to have an article approved but not published -- until I am ready to publish it? I assume not but thanks in advance for your answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ponolan (talkcontribs) 23:18, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anything in Draft space or User space will be visible to anyone who finds it, although sometimes search engines may not index them. There is no mechanism for articles to appear on a certain date and be invisible before then. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

12:08:37, 19 June 2015 review of submission by Soniathappa


Hi there, the current logo for UrbanPro at Wikipedia is not visible properly, so I want to upload the proper company logo which is visible. How can I do that? Please let me know, I am pretty new to Wiki.

Thanks Soniathappa

Soniathappa (talk) 12:08, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

13:49:37, 19 June 2015 review of submission by Bantammenace


My request to create a page for world-renowned, award-winning body painter Craig Tracy has been denied. What makes him notable beyond that, is that Craig is currently a main judge and producer on the GSN program Skin Wars. His Skin Wars co-judge, Robin Slonina, has a Wikipedia page - why is Craig not notable enough? What can I add in order for the page to meet the standards of notability?

Thanks!


Bantammenace (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bantammenace Go back to the draft and read the decline reason and the advice appended to it, in the pink box at the top of the page. There you will find links to guidance on what is required. Short answer - you need more and better sources. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

16:06:24, 19 June 2015 review of submission by Mahmike7


I need help. I don't think I quite understand what I should be doing to get my article created or what type of references are needed. I'm creating an article on Education at Work, a non-profit contact center in Cincinnati. Would anyone be able to provide some guidance?

ThanksMahmike7 (talk) 16:06, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mahmike7 (talk) 16:06, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mahmike7: The extent to which the draft relies on press releases is troubling. With those sources it's no wonder the draft has struck reviewers as promotional rather than encyclopedic in tone. Also, sources used to demonstrate notability must be reliable sources independent of the subject. WCPO and WXIX are probably solid sources, unless further digging reveals their stories to be regurgitated press releases. The coverage is all local, however, and fails to show national, or at least regional, notability. Based on the cited sources, the subject does not appear to be a suitable topic for an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not for advertising, marketing, or public relations. Worldbruce (talk) 02:49, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

18:05:24, 19 June 2015 review of submission by Usmanehsan11


Usmanehsan11 (talk) 18:05, 19 June 2015 (UTC) 18:05:24, 19 June 2015 review of submission by Usmanehsan11[reply]

What did i do wrong. Why is my article rejected. Can u give me pointers so i can fix them and resubmit them again.

@Usmanehsan11:If you are asking why User:Usmanehsan11/sandbox, about Ali Aftab Saeed of Beygairat Brigade, was rejected, the relevant guideline is: "members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases." Worldbruce (talk) 03:00, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

June 20

11:22:46, 20 June 2015 review of submission by Londonalley


Londonalley (talk) 11:22, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Londonalley: Your submission doesn't indicate any sources. Where does the material come from? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

19:02:10, 20 June 2015 review of submission by Lkirkpatrick89


I need to make this article more notable, but I don't know how. Please help! Lkirkpatrick89 (talk) 19:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:06:06, 20 June 2015 review of submission by DESiegel


This draft has been tagged as a copyvio, blanked and tagged for speedy deletion. I came to it on patrol of Category:CSD. It is in fact a copy of http://quaestorpress.com/author1.html. But that page is "licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. " I think i have read that a CC 4.0 license is incompatible with Wikipedia's CC 3.0 license, although i looked today and couldn't find anything expliocitly saying so. But the source page is licensed under a free license. Given that, i don't think blanking or speed deletion are appropriate. We can take a bit of time to deal with this, i think. This was tagged by MatthewVanitas and Wikiisawesome and I hope they would join this thread. DES (talk) 23:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DES (talk) 23:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Arturo D. Hernández (author) was speedily deleted. Since CC-BY only requires attribution, I don't think it has any special compatibility requirements to be re-used under a more restrictive license. I have asked the deleting admin to consider undeleting. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 09:30, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

June 21

09:51:41, 21 June 2015 review of submission by Nefron 95

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Hi, my article about Miloš Meier has been declined 3 times because the article does not adequately show the subject's notability. Miloš Meier is considered as one of the best drummer in Czech republic. The information which I used are not subjective, for example where he studied or where he was born. So I do not understand why I cannot use them? You wrote to me to improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. Problem is that there do not exist any other sources. So what can I do? Is a solution to set Miloš Meier as a non-notiable musician? Or please tell me any other way how to include my article into Wikipedia.

Nefron 95 (talk) 09:51, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

12:48:18, 21 June 2015 review of submission by Penthrift

I want to make an English edition of the French article chapelle Notre-Dame de Spéluque by translating it. Questions: - I assume that given the subject it would not be appropriate to fully translate the article into English and include the side bar and pictures? I am ready to replicate the entire article in English or do a summary - but need guidance please! I plan to also do the same for other articles on historic places in the area.

thanks! Penthrift (talk) 12:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 17:46:26, 21 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Adrienne Asher


My article submission was declined and I need assistance in understanding what I need to do to create an acceptable article. I wrote from a neutral point of view, using a range of independent, reliable, published sources, about a notable writer, so I'm at a loss as to where my work went awry.

Adrienne Asher (talk) 17:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Adrienne Asher: It looks ok from a neutrality standpoint to me, except the use of the NYT quote in the lede, that should be attributed in the text. User:Elee - can you provide some more pointers as to what you saw in the review that meant it doesn't pass yet?
  • You need to declare your conflict of interest on English Wikipedia (not just at the Commons wiki) before your article can pass. See WP:COI for what and where.
  • Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 19:57, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

June 22

05:57:18, 22 June 2015 review of submission by M0615Sip


I have tried to create an article on company based in India. I have been in touch with fellow wikipedia reviewers who have helped me along the line to edit the content how ever it has been well over 3 weeks and article is still in draft mode. there ave been no comment or suggestion on further editing the article and I am just waiting for new update from wikipedia side. I would be highly obliged if someone can help me with how to move forward please M0615Sip (talk) 05:57, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved
Article accepted by Joseph. Best, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 03:16, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

06:27:17, 22 June 2015 review of submission by Blackcountrysteam

I am requesting assistance because I am not sure what is needed for the article to be accepted !!! Blackcountrysteam (talk) 06:27, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Blackcountrysteam: You need to show that the organization is notable by providing citations to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. Those terms in blue have specific meanings on Wikipedia, so you can click each of those links for more information. If such sources don't exist, than Black Country Live Steamers may not meet the requirements of WP:ORG to be included in Wikipedia.
Also, please see the note I left on your talk page about your username. --Ahecht (TALK
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Request on 15:07:40, 22 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Keslerski


I submitted an entry for Doug Decatur and was denied due to: Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I am just curious if I could get a little more direction on what I was missing in the post as far as citing and referencing, or if the issue was more about the significance of Doug Decatur? Doug Decatur has written a few plays, is working on his third book, and has worked in major league baseball as a scout and analyst. I really just wanted to know if he is going to be declined because of his significance or if by improving the citations and references in the article he could be added to Wikipedia? Keslerski (talk) 15:07, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keslerski (talk) 15:07, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Keslerski, what you need to look for are independent reliable sources such as newspaper, magazine or other mainstream media articles about Decatur himself that were written and published by people who have no connection to him, that excludes press releases, paid-for reviews, social media posts and blogs by random people. Professional journalists, recognized mainstream critics or academics are the sources you need. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:00:36, 22 June 2015 review of submission by 19angie89

My reviewer said I need more third party references. Is there a minimum number I need for my article?

19angie89 (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@19angie89: Multiple independent, reliable, secondary sources are required, so the absolute minimum number is two. More than two are usually necessary to demonstrate significant coverage, support the bulk of the content, and cover all significant viewpoints. The number need not be large, however. Quality is more important than quantity. An article in the Boston Globe, for example, would be much better than a blog post "not written or edited by the Boston Globe." Worldbruce (talk) 18:14, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:00:54, 22 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Afterplayoffice


I am trying to place Les Garlands bio into a wikipedia page, and it's saying it's written as an advertisement or something... which is bizarre, as it states facts about who he is and what he has done. Please advise on how I can get this handled.

Thank you..

Afterplayoffice (talk) 20:00, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Afterplayoffice: The issue is with the article's promotional tone. Being factual and being promotional aren't mutually exclusive; you can have a factual piece that's also completely promotional. For example, take the first sentence or two: "Throughout his celebrated career, the path Les Garland blazed has been fueled by his love of music and entertainment. As co-founder of groundbreaking networks..." Celebrated career, a blazed path, fueled by love, groundbreaking networks...These are all unfounded promotional bits that aren't appropriate for an encyclopedia. Beyond that, the draft also appears to have been copied from Garland's ZoomInfo profile, which would be a copyright violation. We cannot accept copyrighted content (and doing so often results in promotional material anyway). Hope this helps clear things up. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 20:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:58:57, 22 June 2015 review of submission by Dwclement


Dwclement (talk) 20:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Dwclement: Are there any specific things you need help with regarding the draft? I see it has been declined for not being written in a proper encyclopedic style, particular due to the use of buzzwords and a lack of reliable, independent sources being used to write the content. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 21:07, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 22:01:47, 22 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Ees2112


Hi, I am a new user and have had a submission declined.

It appears that my submission has been changed to the category "user page."

(I am still getting to learn your directory/category system.)

I was unsure if this page is marked for deletion. Therefore, I copy and pasted my work to my own "sandbox" page, and have continued to edit it there.

I do not mean to spam your site with multiple entries. Should I delete the "user page" to prevent duplicate articles?

Ees2112 (talk) 22:01, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your original article is at Draft:Etienne Boulanger. I reccomend copying your improvements into this draft article and continueing to work on it there. Rankersbo (talk) 11:10, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

June 23

03:47:41, 23 June 2015 review of submission by Olga Rekovskaya

Hello, Unfortunately, our ISS Art article was declined again for the reason of lack of "secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject". I would like to disagree on this point - the article contains references to such resources as IAOP, Clutch, Fortune 500 Magazine. These are completely independent resources, they don't have any commercial interest in promoting the company.

As for the notability of organizations, one should "consider whether they have had any significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education". As described in the article, ISS Art is involved in community activities, and this is supported by evidence from independent resources (online newspapers and magazines).

Could you, please, clarify, what kind of information does the article still lack to get published?

Btw, I'd like to provide examples of two articles about software development companies that were pubslished (although they might not meet the above mentioned criteria as well): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azoft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibers

Thank you in advance.

06:48:39, 23 June 2015 review of submission by Zjwoolf


My article was denied because of 'read more like an advertisement'. I took the advice from the first reviewer who denied it and took out almost anything that wasn't cited, so that there wouldn't be any question on the validity of what was written. Wondering if you could give me other advice if there are certain sections that should be reviewed or what part read like an advertisement. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

Actually, I think I see the problem. Would you suggest removing the entire Products section? I tried to figure out how to write it non ad-like, but now i think it is. What do you think?

Zjwoolf (talk) 06:48, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:55:11, 23 June 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Mttocs


Hello,

I've been trying to post a short article about WTI (Western Telematic, Inc.) for the past eight months and so far, I've had about eight versions of the article rejected.

Initially, the articles were rejected due to insufficient citation or lack of notability, but today I received a message from your reviewer that rejected my latest revision article based on insufficient context.

I think I've been able to address the citation and notability issues over the past eight revisions, but I'm confused as to how to address the context issue. Is the reviewer saying that I need to add more text to explain terms such as "console sever," "power-distribution-unit" and "automatic transfer switch," or do I merely need to link to existing Wikipedia articles that explain these terms, or is there something else that I'm missing?

Thanks,

Mttocs

Mttocs (talk) 16:55, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]