This is an archive of past discussions about Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychology. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Should Effort justification merge with Cognitive dissonance? Please comment at Talk:Effort justification D O N D E groovily Talk to me 01:50, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I would like to add new material to the article, Psychophysics. I am new at this but excited to be working on this as a class project for my History of Psychology course. I will begin by adding a few links to external academic-supported sites that allow opportunities to try the Method of Limits, for example. I welcome any comments and suggestions. WebFlower1 (talk) 03:55, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I've started reworking/writing the Agreeableness article and would really appreciate some help and/or ratings along the way. In the process of writing that, I realized that there's no home for the Lexical Hypothesis. I hope to create that article tomorrow, but I won't have the time to make it anything substantial...any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Matthew.murdoch (talk) 04:23, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

This template should be substituted on the article talk page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemonium_architecture — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmierock (talk • contribs) 13:32, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Jimmierock (talk) 13:56, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I am doing this project for a history of Psychology class and will be editing this project. I would like to add new material to the article, Word Superiority Effect. I hope to add to this article for clarity and to better develop the article. LAElling (talk) 16:37, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I am editing this article for my history class and hope to improve the information as well as make the article easier to read. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Breaugha1 (talk) 16:42, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking to edit the article Addictive Personality for my History of Psychology course. I'm planning to edit the description, correct errors, and remove bias. I hope to improve the overall well being of the article (Hieraths1 (talk) 16:48, 21 March 2012 (UTC))

I will welcome all constructive edits, please do leave comments on what you did and such so I can keep track. I am grateful for all of your help :)

Jimmierock (talk) 18:52, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Would someone be kind enough to look at Internet relationship and see if it merits more than a "Start" rating now? A bunch of student have been working on it. Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 18:25, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

It needs top-priority help because prior to the latest edits (mine), it was full of dubious and unprofessional language, meaning that basically half the article had to be cut out with only the already-verified scientific bits and pieces allowed to remain. As you'll see, I also attempted to add language that would give an appropriately objective or near-objective sense of where an article like social isolation might want to be heading towards. But the article still very much needs help, especially since this kind of thing seems to be affecting more and more humans in the current era regardless of what you believe the causes to be. I've taken the liberty of adding it to the To-Do list as a Priority Article, but I don't know if anyone just browsing the Project is going to see it there, and frankly you may all decide that I don't have the authority to put it there. Kikodawgzzz (talk) 20:08, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

My name is Briana and I'm an undergraduate student. I'll be editing Erikson's stages of psychosocial development for a class project. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. Maryannb1001 (talk) 22:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Please review Memory for the future. Does this topic actually exist?

The cites in the article don't seem to verify that it does.

A quick Google search isn't turning up much verification.

-- 186.221.136.197 (talk) 21:52, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure there is literature that uses that specific term, but there is support in the literature for the concept that the ability to visualize the future depends on memory systems. There might be some level of original synthesis here, but it is by no means the worst I have seen -- not nearly as bad as Argument from poor design. Looie496 (talk) 23:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

The treatment section and future of child psychopathology section appear in the edit version of this article, but they do not appear on the published online version. Please check to see what happened to these "ghost" sections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabrerajoshua89 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

The citations and other wiki markup are screwing up the article. I started to correct this but had edit conflicts so I'll leave it for now. It will need going over by an experienced editor.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 19:36, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Update: I've got the two sections visible. The refs still need work though.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 20:01, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Could somebody take care of Semmelweis reflex? Currently, the article does not even have any valid citations, as the citation given for the definition seems to be irrelevant. I have considered to propose the article for deletion without further ado on WP:NEOLOGISM, but there are a number of hits on Google Books which suggest that the term is in serious academic use, even if perhaps not really an established term in psychology. While I have encountered the suggestion that the term was coined by Robert Anton Wilson, it appears that Timothy Leary was the writer to introduce it. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 21:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello All! I am currently in need of peer reviewers for the article on the Wonderlic Test. Any and all help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time. Mdwilliams2 (talk) 21:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Everyone, I am some one who likes to read and then do something with what he has learned. In this case adding to Ontogeny and Phylogeny (now known only as phylogenetics) after reading Freud's Wolfman. At this moment both articles are purely biological/genetical in nature. However, the terms apply to both physical and mental properties. IMHO both should have one article on the general outline of the terms, with links to the more specialistic fields. However, one more experienced editor reversed my additions. I am now wondering how other people feel about this issue. So, my question to all of you is how to proceed to be of most service to all eager seekers? IMHO a disambiguation page would benefit people less than one general introduction page.

Your opinions, please.

--Fan Singh Long (talk) 15:26, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I am going to stop following this page After some deliberation with 2 more experienced editors a solution has been found.

--Fan Singh Long (talk) 09:39, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Please see Talk:Paraphilic_infantilism#Input_regarding_use_of_sources. Cross-posted at WP:SEX. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 20:08, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the prior discussion is at Talk:Paraphilic_infantilism#Fruend_and_Blanchard.27s_Paedophilia_article_doesn.27t_belong_here. BitterGrey (talk) 20:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Other prior discussions (FTN, FTN2, FTN 3, RSN 1, and RSN 2). WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 22:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually, that one prior discussion (two weeks ago) related simply to one source, Fruend and Blanchard's "Erotic target location errors in male gender dysphorics, paedophiles, and fetishists." which is about, according to the very first line "A clinical series of male paedophiles..." It doesn't use the already-established term "infantilism" or any established synonym, and so can't be cited in the paraphilic infantilism article without WP:SYNTH or WP:OR. The other links either followed this discussion, or are from last year. It would be best if we could avoid linkspam and obfuscation. BitterGrey (talk) 13:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I spotted that Maladaptive daydreaming was recently added to the List of mental disorders. Since the Maladaptive daydreaming article does not provide support for the existence of the proposed entity as a recognized disorder, I am removing it from the list. I also have concerns about ambiguous wording in the article, which I have summarized on the the Talk page. Regards, —MistyMorn (talk) 12:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

We are working on the Joint attention article as part of the Canada Wikipedia Education Program and submitted for Good Article status on March 20, 2012. How can we encourage review of our article? The end of the semester is quickly approaching and any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Amae2 & NadRose & LianneAnna (talk) 02:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

 Done--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:HighBeam describes a limited opportunity for Wikipedia editors to have access to HighBeam Research.
—Wavelength (talk) 18:53, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I am making a page for work motivation for this class and I would like this to be reviewed so I can see what I need to work on. Jastha08 (talk) 22:11, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

The article Adult grooming has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No references supplied, appears to be original research. If and when references to reliable sources are found, it can always be recreated.

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maybe needs redefining - see Talk:Child depression Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:45, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

See Talk:Hypergraphia#Merge from graphomania suggestion. Also, they ar probably to be tagged with more narrow wikiprojects. I am just a "drive-by editor" for this subject. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, can someone please have a look at The Master and His Emissary and give it your expert attention? We really need someone who has this 600+ page book to write an appropriate synopsis. If you click on the banner at the top of the page, it will take you to the talk page discussion section.

It may be useful to check a revision prior to the mass removal of material, to see what—if anything—is important and might be worth resurrecting?

Many thanks in advance. Regards, Esowteric+Talk 10:52, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello everyone. I just noticed that there is a new article Cognitivism (learning theory) to complement the existing Cognitivism (psychology). Are these two legitimately separate topics, or should there be a merger on the cards? Let me know what you think. — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 15:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Subject article needs some TLC, it's a mess. LeadSongDog come howl! 20:12, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Article appears somewhat autobiographical. This is not in my field -- can anyone take a look at this and see if it meets WP:ACADEMIC? If it does, could use some attention. Thanks, a13ean (talk) 21:09, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I have just had a look at the article on Harvey A. Carr. When you go to its talk page, you will see it is watched by two wikiprojects - Wikipedia: Wikiproject Chicago and Wikipedia: Wikiproject Biography. However, since Harvey A. Carr was a psychologist, shouldn't this wikiproject also be looking at this article? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:25, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Can I just repeat that I really think that Wikipedia: WikiProject Psychology ought to be the dominant wikiproject looking at Harvey A. Carr? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:36, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for raising this. It's totally okay to add the template to the talk page yourself- you don't have to ask permission here. I've added it. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:11, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

It would be great with some extra attention to a discussion at Talk:Mind where another editor and I are attempting to work towards a better definition of "mind". ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:42, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The article on MADD appears to have been written by a private company or institution. Among other things, it includes two phone numbers in Canada where readers (who may themselves be sufferers) can call 'our psychologists'. I just wonder if this is in accordance with Wikipedia policy. I have never seen a Wiki article quite like it - it starts like a standard encyclopedic entry, but gradually sounds more and more like the kind of leaflet you might find in a doctor's practice, even addressing the reader directly in the second person.188.203.49.105 (talk) 13:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

The abbreviation MADD can refer to many things, but in this case it appears to refer to Mixed anxiety-depressive disorder. -- Presearch (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.
The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:51, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 May 18#Template:Pedophilia about whether or not this new template should be kept, and, if kept, what/if any changes should be made to it. More opinions on the matter would be appreciated. Please read the arguments for keep and delete before weighing in, should you decide to comment in the discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 15:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

It was relisted here. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Adult grooming is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adult grooming until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.. Maratrean (talk) 10:59, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

These articles are a mess, and the way that "sexual identity" is being used is WP:OR (somewhat anyway). Basically, help is needed to sort this out. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies#Sexual identity for the current discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 02:28, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

See discussion here.--Victor Chmara (talk) 11:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Greetings discussion group, WP:Psychology, Intelligence, 2nd paragraph in lead Artificial Intelligence", with its hyperlink redirecting off site, (in the lead!), perhaps feature article status alludes?, Is this article *Intelligence]] categorized with psychology, I would edit the hyperlink out leaving a bold "artificial intelligence"^[1] Now all of that to say, I would like to improve this article under whatever Wiki Projects are interested however, I notice this is a c class article. I assume the "c" means classroom. May I take this article into my classroom to present it as a feature article, and let's say the classroom improves the article to feature page in two weeks^[2] Seeking to develope the Wiki Project Schoolhouse, I humbly offer my school assignment before you. Orschstaffer (talk) 18:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC) O=MC⁴

O=MC⁴

18:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi everyone, I have created two new stubs as part of the APS-Wikipedia Initiative and am continuing to extend and edit them; any feedback would be much appreciated. Thank you! Emountier (talk) 00:05, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

We thought that the Rumination (psychology) article needed to acknowledge that psychologists have various definitions for rumination, such as Mikulincer's (1996) that divides rumination into three different categories/definitions. We added a bit about attentional biases but we still think that this article needs more content and needs to be more organized and contain scales. We think the RRS scale should be uploaded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bethan28 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Please have a glance at Talk:Suicide#Chronic suicidality?, which is very short and might be of interest to this project. If there is follow-up kindly bactrack on my talk page. Guyovski (talk) 04:59, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi folks, I've been asked to offer opinions on how to improve Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Amy Cuddy which is a draft article about an Associate Professor in the "Negotiation, Organizations & Markets Unit at Harvard Business School". Cuddy focuses on psychology... mostly.

The article has been declined twice, the second time for being about a non-notable person. I do understand that "Associate Professor" doesn't meet notability standards for academics, and that many of the more "reliable" sources cited seem to be about topics that Cuddy can claim to be an expert on (i.e. she is invited to a TV show) rather than sources talking primarily about her.

However, I do wonder if there is notability here despite that, and maybe we can improve it to reach that point? Any ideas or suggestions? The article creator is pretty new to Wikipedia, so we can maybe bring out more points - or more solid refs - that they have not quite got across?

I posted something very similar to Wikiproject business. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Article is now live at Amy Cuddy thanks to the very prompt assistance of User:Maunus, but improvements are of course very welcome. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:02, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Please see, Talk:Presenting problem.

I've redirected ot to Chief complaint, as it included the British term Presenting complaint. However, Identified patient could well fit as well, as it includes the individual as the "Presenting Problem".

It is commonly used but, due to my lack of expertise in this area, I am happy to defer to others wisdom. --Bridge Boy (talk) 14:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Chief complaint appears to me to be more generally where Presenting problem would be more related to mental health.

--Bridge Boy (talk) 14:37, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Attention is welcome on this article, at which there is currently a debate about some contentious recent and proposed edits, and about alleged violations of neutrality and weight. See the foot of the talk page. Thanks, MartinPoulter (talk) 20:28, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Psychologists and students working as part of the APS Wikipedia Initiative have edited over 1,200 psychology-related articles as of June, 2012. Although most of these already had the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Psychology template on their talk page, over 300 didn't. Would it be OK to place the WikiProject_Psychology template on these articles and in the future recommend that students and others working through the APS Initiative do this by default? Robertekraut (talk) 20:24, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Robert- yes, please do this. If an article is related to psychology, whether discussing a phenomenon, a finding, a person, a research technique or so on, then it should have the wikiproject tag on its talk page. It doesn't need to have the importance and quality ratings- just a bare tag will do - although you may find that rating an article on the quality scale is a good educational activity in itself. MartinPoulter (talk) 15:55, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Martin, thanks for the advice. We will include instructions to APS members and students to start doing this if they are working on a psychology-related article that hasn't already been tagged. We may also retroactively go back and add the psychology template to other articles, where it is clearly relevant. Robertekraut (talk) 16:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I dont think this article about a living person fully and accurately reflects his position and reputation. However many of the potential sources are in German and Spanish and I dont trust my high school language training or Google Translate on correctly interpreting nuanced content. Help would be appreciated. There is also a discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Bert_Hellinger -- The Red Pen of Doom 12:42, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm a relatively inexperienced editor, but, as I noted in the talk page for the article, there are some issues. The specifics might need to be teased apart (feel free to correct my talk discussion if it's mistaken), but the symptom, which I think is serious, is that the article presents this particular model as part of mainstream psychology, which it is obviously not. Undiskedste (talk) 15:51, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

One of the issues here seems to be that because this is an obscure fringe theory it apparently has never been discussed at all within mainstream psychology, hence there are no published sources that point that it is not mainstream. One reasonable response might be to remove the wikiproject psychology banner from the talkpage for the good reason that there is no evidence that it is a valid part of psychology. This action would not fall under WP:OR because the burden of proof that it is part of psychology falls on anyone who wants to keep it within the scope of this project. Therefore, anyone who objects to removing the psychology banner would need to provide reliable sources that this is a part of psychology. --Smcg8374 (talk) 04:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I plan to add additional information to the sensation seeking page. I will explain Zuckerman's hypothesis that some people who are high sensation seekers require a lot of stimulation to reach their optimal level of arousal and when they are deprived they find the experience unpleasant. I will also explain Hebb's theory of Optimal Level of Arousal in which people are motivated to seek arousal. Feel free to edit and add additional information. Thebinbin (talk) 18:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Recently I moved this page to sensation seeking as I believe there needs to be an article about the concept itself, not just the scale used to measure it. All of the information from the previous title has been retained, although the article has been reworded. --Smcg8374 (talk) 01:21, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm going to be spending some time creating a non-list (article) version of psychological research, going into some more detail and introducing some ethical considerations. If you would like to help or have any input, please do. Your expertise would be much appreciated. I will be working on it here. Thanks Brad7777 (talk) 20:57, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Nothing much to contribute yet, but this sounds like a great project: well done for taking it on and keep us updated! MartinPoulter (talk) 21:44, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I think it's coming on ok... but not too sure if using some of the references is acceptable? Also, If anybody can add an image to the experimental methods section, that would be handy, because I can't find/think of any suitable. Brad7777 (talk) 19:21, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Does anyone know more about this? It is risking to be deleted, help source it if possible. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Multiplicity_(psychology)#Multiplicity_.28psychology.29 -- RexRowan  Talk  18:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

The article Sexuoerotic tragedy has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

notability of concept not demonstrated

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I've noticed your project was listed at User:AlexNewArtBot but was missing the ruleset, so the search was not carried out. I'ved added the rule (list all new articles with the string "psycholog" in it, and hopefully that's all that was needed. If so, you should see this link turning blue soon, and then you may want to add it to your main page. See how we did it at our WP:SOCIOLOGY: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sociology#New_article_feed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 18:00, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for this, Piotr. MartinPoulter (talk) 14:28, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

This article on the DIBELS test is a bit of a unencyclopaedic mess. It's been the subject of both drive-by attacks by anti-testing people and spin-doctoring by what appear to have been DIBELS spokespeople.

Could some knowledgeable editors take a look and see if they can improve this article? I gather this is an important educational test in the U.S., so we need a good article.

Thanks, --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:15, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Dissociative Identity Disorder Could this page be listed here under pages that need to be worked on? If there are psychologists out there who work with DID and know the subject, this page really needs you. Tanya ✫ ♥♫ 00:58, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi all. Myself and another editor cannot seem to reach consensus over at the social group article. Our differing opinions relate to the article intro and apparently we have reached a bit of an impasse. While I don’t expect anyone to read the entire discussion (It is quite long and a little antagonistic at times), the opinion of someone outside the debate could be valuable. Even if it is just to break the deadlock. The current state of affairs can be found here. Cheers Andrew (talk) 00:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Dissociative Identity Disorder Could this page be listed here under pages that need to be worked on? If there are psychologists out there who work with DID and know the subject, this page really needs you. Tanya ✫ ♥♫ 00:58, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi all. Myself and another editor cannot seem to reach consensus over at the social group article. Our differing opinions relate to the article intro and apparently we have reached a bit of an impasse. While I don’t expect anyone to read the entire discussion (It is quite long and a little antagonistic at times), the opinion of someone outside the debate could be valuable. Even if it is just to break the deadlock. The current state of affairs can be found here. Cheers Andrew (talk) 00:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

There's a discussion going on at Talk:Sociopathy#Redirect to Antisocial personality disorder? that could use some input from someone who has some background in the area. Thank you. SchreiberBike (talk) 02:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Anybody? Thanks. SchreiberBike (talk) 21:15, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Eyes, please, disagreement concerning the proper scope of the artice. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Consider going further in depth in the lead section, expanding on definitions and explanations so the reader can get a clearer idea of what Feature Integration Theory is before launching into the stages. Also, work on the article coming together as a whole. Currently, the article reads very disconnected.

Use a footnote when citing specific terms coined by Treisman, such as "feature maps" and "saliency maps," especially since all your sources share the same author. Samjcummins (talk) 04:09, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

We need some people watching {{Emotion}}. There's an editor who is unhappy that navboxes like this one are not required to contain inline citations proving that readers of articles like Emotion might be interested in reading articles like Outrage (emotion). WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:37, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

I have decided to edit this article for Psych 2410A at King’s 2012‖ Mnettle (talk) 16:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Because it involves core article of interest to this WikiProject, I thought you should be aware of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Psychotherapies. Tijfo098 (talk) 11:48, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I have decided to edit this article for Psych 2410A at King’s 2012

Mnettle (talk) 19:57, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

- the first change I plan to make to the social stigma page is to change the layout of the page, as of now it is very confusing and not orderly. I plan to have the introduction start with the definition then the etymology then the 3 forms of social stigma followed by a little talk on Goffman who first named the 3 forms and then a summary of some research done on social stigma. After this I plan to make the following headings of what social stigma is, main theories and contributions, followed by current research. - the next change I plan to make is to eliminate some categories and form them in to bigger categories to make the paper flow better. For example, etymology can go in the introduction of what social stigma is as the section is only about 2 sentences. Also, there is about 3 sections talking about people who have contributed to the study of social stigma so I plan to form those in to one big section. - the last thing I will do to this page is add some information on social stigma in the media by talking about gender stereotypes and a study done on them. This will go under the research portion of the page. The study I chose is called looking through gendered lenses: female stereotypes in advertisement. It is a study about 150 high-school students who are divided in to 2 groups, one that views stereotypical images and one that does not. The results showed that brief exposure to gender stereotypes played a role in reinforcing them. This study was done by S.Lafky, M.Duffy, M.Steinmaus, and D, Berkowitz in 1996.

Mnettle (talk) 18:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

A new article relating to a controversial subject - Arthur Jensen's book Bias in Mental Testing (1980). It might well benefit from input from WikiProject Psychology regulars. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:42, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Last year my advanced seminar in adolescent development at Oberlin College did a major revision of the Adolescence article. The Advanced Methods in Adolescent Development course is doing more editing and adding additional information to it. They are also doing a major expansion of the Emerging Adulthood piece, making it a piece on normative development from around age 18-30. They may merge that article with the piece on Young Adulthood. The latter was suggested by other editor and I'd like to see that done. Nancydarling (talk) 19:43, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Outline:

Brief Description-Running away from personal destiny

 --Picture Added---http://blogs.nazarene.org/zenichka/files/2011/01/lastman-pieter-jonah-and-the-whale.jpg

Etymology

-Biblical Origin

 --Jonah and the Whale
 --Song of Jonah

-Abraham Maslow

 --Picture Added--http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Abraham_Maslow.jpg/220px-Abraham_Maslow.jpg
 --Birth-Death
 --Short description of qualifications
 --Jonah Complex

Causes Contemporary Views on Jonah Complex

-Analogies (Sinking Ship) -Journey of 1000 miles begins with the first step

Connections to Psychoanalytic Theory

-Defense Mechanisms

 --Repression
 --Rationalization

Jonah Complex vs. Peter Pan Syndrome?

-Michael Jackson -- "I am Peter Pan in my heart."

References -Bible -The Song of Jonah: A Metrical Analysis Author(s): Duane L. ChristensenReviewed work(s):Source: Journal of Biblical Literature, Vol. 104, No. 2 (Jun., 1985), pp. 217-231 -http://www.executive-and-life-coaching.com/jonah-complex.html -Swallowing Jonah: The Eclipse of Parody Author(s): ARNOLD J. BAND Reviewed work(s):Source: Prooftexts, Vol. 10, No. 2, Tenth Anniversary Volume, Part 2 (MAY 1990), pp. 177-195 -The Jonah Complex by Andre Lacocque; Pierre-Emmanuel Lacocque Review by: James S. AckermanThe Journal of Religion, Vol. 64, No. 3 (Jul., 1984), pp. 372-373 -Excerpt from Personality and Personal Growth (6th ed.) Frager, R., & Fadiman, J. (2005). New York: Pearson Prentice Hall pg.342: -Desacralizing life and its mystery: The Jonah complex revisited. Lacocque, Pierre-E.. Journal of Psychology and Theology10. 2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meganmurphy17 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

In the article Near-death experience, there is this beautiful sentence: "The left temporo-parietal junction is involved in the feeling of a sinister figure's presence behind us who copied our actions." I removed it but was reverted, and the editor wants to discuss this on the talk page. I'm too tired to take up this discussion. If somebody else feels like it, that would be your good deed for today! Lova Falk talk 14:27, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Looie496 and FiachraByrne! ‎Lova Falk talk 07:40, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tom! I really enjoyed reading your article. You have done a great job. However, there are some areas that you can improve on.

3 Areas for improvement 1. You should proofread the article again. The information is very good but there are some typos. There are also some phrases that could be worded better. The first sentence drags on a bit. 2. Under your heading “In popular culture,” you should expand more. Also, you could expand more under the “Replicating the study” section. 3. Adding a picture would make the page more interesting. We also think you could use more examples throughout the article.

3 Strengths: 1. You do a great job of linking words and phrases to other pages. You also do a great job with citations and references. We also like how you listed other Wikipedia pages that are similar to your topic at the end of the article. 2. Overall the article has a lot of good information. The research looks valid and accurate, and we think the article is very organized and flows well. The headings and spacing make it easy to read. 3. We really like your section called “Recent Research.” We feel that these examples allow us to relate to the subject.

I look forward to reading your final draft! Sheridaa (talk)Abbey Sheridan —Preceding undated comment added 17:24, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

People familiar with the scholarly works avialable are encouraged to comment Talk:Lev_Vygotsky#Weight_issue_and_possible_COI, or just be bold and edit if appropriate. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:49, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Is there such a thing as a mental health condition where one forgets things a lot? Pass a Method talk 09:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Amnesia. And of course, dementia. Lova Falk talk 09:51, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Seems to be hitting our articles, with mixed results. I'd say Anti-social behaviour has 2 editors from this initiative, Hunting hypothesis and Gathering hypothesis definitely has one, and all 3 articles and the 3 editors need help. Dougweller (talk) 22:12, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

I am just so stunned by the second half of the definition of Personal distress that I put my question also here (and not only on the talk page). The article starts with: "Personal distress is an aversive, self-focused emotional reaction (e.g., anxiety, worry, discomfort) to the apprehension or comprehension of another's emotional state or condition."
Now I understand that people can be distressed because others are distressed, but isn't this just one possible source of personal distress? Can't we experience personal distress because we might lose our job, get a divorce, etc etc. Or is it me who doesn't know that the term "personal distress" is used just in this context??? Lova Falk talk 20:29, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

That sounds wrong. Specifically, it sounds like someone accidentally deleted a sentence or two that used to be in between those concepts. Perhaps the page history will be illuminating. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:29, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

It looks like the phrase appears in the very first version of the article. It's a strange definition. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Might interest some people here, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brain-disabling psychiatric medical treatment.--MrADHD | T@1k? 20:18, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

What's the article for the subjective sense that you're in control of your future or situation? Just to be clear, what I mean by "sense of control" is this: Imagine a world in which people believe that sacrificing a chicken under a full moon might prevent cancer. A given person is particularly worried about developing cancer and therefore engages in this practice. The practice is not scientifically proven, and the person knows this. However, he continues the practice, because "it gives me a sense of being in control, even if it doesn't work". (It does "work" in the sense that it reduces his anxiety.)

There's nothing at sense of control; is there another name for it? WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Locus of control is not really the same as sense of control, however, having an internal locus of control comes close to having a sense of control. However, this may not be valid for your chicken example.. Lova Falk talk 18:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I wonder if it's more of a philosophical thing than a psych thing. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

"Sense of control" is used in psychology. It's studied in relation to wellness, symptom severity, anxiety, depression, etc. Definitely a concept worthy of an article. GBooks --Anthonyhcole (talk) 20:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Superstition as a maladaptive coping strategy? --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 22:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello to all. There are major issues on the paedophilia article regarding its prevalance. I am wondering if anyone here is interested or knows how to resolve this problem? The problem is as follows. According to wikipedia 1 in 10 men approximately are fixated on prepubescent kids. To me this is obvious nonsense. I suspect that either sources have been misinterpreted, such as prevalance rates in prison samples have been extrapolated across into the general population or else adolescentophilia, particularly hebephilia has been included in these statistics without informing the reader. The big problem is that for obvious reasons there are no solid estimates as to the prevalence rate of paedophilia in the general population but I just know it is not 1 in 10 men! The discussion is here for all who are interested. The discussion is here, Talk:Pedophilia#Prevalence_rates. --MrADHD | T@1k? 20:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Today I've discovered that we have no article on the Modern Racism Scale (McConahay, Hardee, & Batts, 1981) and nothing on parafoveal priming. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 21:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sonicyouth86! I added the Modern Racism Scale to Wikipedia:Requested articles/Social sciences/Psychology; when it comes to parafoveal priming, do you it is notable enought to deserve its own article or would a section in Priming (psychology) be better? Lova Falk talk 17:15, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

It would be best to start with a section in Priming (psychology). Perhaps I'll get around to writing it myself. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 18:44, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

That would be great! Personally, I have never even heard about parafoveal priming, so it'll be interesting to read. Lova Falk talk 20:42, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Expert attention is welcome at Talk:Asperger syndrome#Time for a revisit to this article (version of 15:15, 8 December 2012).
—Wavelength (talk) 17:04, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Does this even exist? [1] -- RexRowan  Talk  18:34, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I just checked on it in PsycINFO. There are 31 matches for the search "mass hysteria" in titles and 112 results for the tag "mass hysteria". So the term certainly exists, even though it seems not to be too popular. The first hit is overlappign with Mass psychogenic illness. --Finn-Pauls (talk) 23:30, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

I have nominated Autostereogram for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:53, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

• Jumping to conclusions (AfD discussion)

Now that we know what the psychiatric name for it is (You'll never guess.), the article is in need of attention with respect to the psychology. Uncle G (talk) 14:46, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

I've accepted a lengthy article on Moral exclusion from Articles for Creation. Though I've attempted to sort out the formatting problems, I've no idea whether it is a balanced and adequately sourced article. Someone may like to take a look. Sionk (talk) 18:26, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi,
I wanted input back on merging the articles ABA and Behavior mod., as the former is a new term for the latter.
See here: Talk:Applied_behavior_analysis#Merging_the_articles_Applied_behavior_analysis_and_Behavior_modification.
Thanks!
ATC ^{. Talk} 04:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

I found a journal explaining the controversy over the terms. See here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2223172/. It states as follows: "A New Science? [section] Perhaps there is a tendency to draw pejorative contrasts between PBS and ABA in order to bolster claims about the status of PBS as a new and distinct science or discipline (e.g., Bambara et al., 1994; E. Carr, 1997; E. Carr et al., 2002; Knoster et al., 2003; Sisson, 1992). There may be disagreement among PBS leaders on this point. On the one hand, for example, Horner (2000) stated that 'Positive behavior support is not a new approach. … [It is] the application of behavior analysis to the social problems created by such behaviors as self-injury' (p. 97). He further stated, 'There is no difference in theory or science between positive behavior support and behavior modification. These are the same approach with different names. If any difference exists, it is in the acceptance [by PBS] of much larger outcomes and the need to deliver the global technology that will deliver these outcomes' (p. 99). Other writers have referred to PBS as an 'extension' of applied behavior analysis (e.g., Turnbull et al., 2002, p. 377)." ATC ^{. Talk} 23:32, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Is there any specific term for somebody who has a mental disorder but is highly functioning (i.e. it does not interfere with their day-to-day life). Pass a Method talk 19:31, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The help desk is probably in general the better place for questions regarding content like this. However, you seem to be referring to the Global Assessment of Functioning in general, which I suggest you read. In general, though, the reference sources I've checked indicate no specific term which can be used in a global way, independent of references to diagnosis, other than the phrase you used "high functioning" and the logical variations on it. John Carter (talk) 19:48, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Im looking for a single word term. Pass a Method talk 20:15, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Actually, quite a lot of mental disorders have a criterium stating that: "The symptoms cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning." Careful clinicians should not give a diagnosis to anybody whose functioning is not interfered with. Lova Falk talk 09:24, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Is psychology.wikia.com a reliable source? This question is in relation to the attribution template {{enPW}} now under deletion discussion -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 06:04, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

For the record, Wikia sites are publicly editable wikis like Wikipedia. For that reason, they're unsuitable as sources for Wikipedia. Just as with Wikipedia, however, Psychology Wikia may be a starting point for finding reliable sources that are suitable. MartinPoulter (talk) 16:41, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi! User:Mellywelly15 and I are in a disagreement about the definition of savant syndrome. I would be happy with the input of other editors, so the two of us can stop going back and forth. Lova Falk talk 19:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I created an article for early twentieth century psychiatrist Elmer Ernest Southard, but it needs attention from someone with more background in the history of psychology. I think it could use more in-depth coverage of E.E. Southard's views on schizophrenia and how they differed from his contemporaries. If anyone would like to have a look, I would appreciate it. EricEnfermero ^Howdy! 13:07, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Someone on Talk:Obsessive-compulsive disorder has pointed out that the article's description of the disorder's etiology focuses exclusively on biological theories. S/he claimed that there are many psychodynamic theories that attempt to explain the disorder. However, I am not familiar with modern psychodynamic theories, and wouldn't even know where to start my research. Is there anybody here who can help? --Aurochs (Talk | Block) 02:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I recently discovered that this is a redirect. What should it redirect to? pbp 03:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

SPI
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 04:10, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Anything in mainspace? Seems about 2 1/2 months too early for jokes... pbp 06:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Wiki sometimes needs jokes year round to balance the drama...I don't reserve that just for April Fools' Day. Concerning guilt complex, I don't see the redirect anywhere...it wouldn't be red-lettered above if it were a redirect. I believe you may have a candidate for writing an article and that it is related to the Polycrates complex but different enough to stand on its own.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 14:44, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

The above linked discussion is a move discussion that this project may be interested in; it's about whether or not to move the Sexual dysfunction article to the title Sexual disorder. Flyer22 (talk) 17:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:List of biases in judgment and decision making#Requested move, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Tyrol5 [Talk] 02:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

At WT:JAPAN we are discussing if adding macron (diacritic accents) to this title to conform to the Japanese romanization of "Rashōmon" is original research or correcting bad spelling and whether MOS:JAPAN applies to this psychological concept. You are invited to respond. -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 11:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

This article has been nominated for Good Article review. See Talk:Transactive_memory MartinPoulter (talk) 13:19, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I have been cleaning up Category:Biology and recently three new subcategories appeared:

• Category:Biology of attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder
• Category:Biology of obsessive–compulsive disorder
• Category:Biology of bipolar disorder

These categories are too specific for Category:Biology, but I don't see a good place to put them. I have considered adding a subcategory to Category:Mental and behavioural disorders named Category:Biology of mental and behavioural disorders. Would this be an appropriate way of dealing with these subcategories? Also, do these disorders work on separate enough receptors, proteins, etc, to warrant separate categories for each disorder? I would think that these disorders would overlap a lot on the biomolecules they interact with.OakRunner (talk) 20:44, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I removed quite a few external links, but when the editor asked me about it, I couldn't find a clear ELNO to explain why I did it. Now I wonder if I was wrong. I would be very happy if some of you could comment on this here. Thank you! Lova Falk talk 19:49, 27 January 2013 (UTC) (PS If it takes a while before I react on your comments, its because the working week is about to start...)

It may be of interest to some that there has been a discussion of Jokestress's participation on the Talk:Hebephilia page at WP:AN/I; there are proposals under consideration presently to topic ban either Jokestress or James Cantor or both from sexology articles. FiachraByrne (talk) 10:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Can anybody lead me toward articles and rules about this subject. I believe it is being misused/overused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.9.68.149 (talk) 14:17, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

You mean Time-out (parenting)? I also really dislike it. Please find some good and reliable sources, be bold and add a section Criticism to the article! Lova Falk talk 14:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

LF, me doing this now is going to look like a reaction to you nominating me for a present from the Foundation, but I was already meaning to do this after assessing a lot of psychology articles recently. You're doing amazing work monitoring & fixing psychology articles, removing dodgy links and spam. There are very few of us doing it and Wikiproject Psychology owes you big thanks for your hard work. I've already awarded you the Psychology Barnstar, so I thought I'd thank you in this public manner for how you've improved things since returning.

To other members, I recommend building up a Watchlist and bookmarking it so that you can see recent changes to articles you're interested in (and contest them if they are dubious). See Help:Watching_pages for an explanation of how to do this. Article development is important, and there's lots of that going on recently thanks to an influx of academics and students, which is great to see. That said, we also need people to go round tidying up, tagging, repairing damage, assessing and so on. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 00:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Hip hip! --Anthonyhcole (talk) 00:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh!!! Saturday morning, still a bit sleepy and tired after the workweek, going through my Watchlist, and suddenly...

Thank you so much! Lova Falk talk 10:26, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

• Speech (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

This article could use some improvements. I've been working on formatting and standardization, but additional research from experts would be appreciated. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 22:45, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Great to see a truly awesome Wikipedian contributing to an article of such high importance. I'm interested in the overlap with perception. No immediate plans to contribute, but watchlisted. MartinPoulter (talk) 23:02, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

There have been many new users editing psychology articles over the last few months, which is great to see, many of whom are academics or students brought by the APS Wikipedia Initiative but others may not be. I've been wondering how we can make them aware of this noticeboard and give suggestions of things they can do to help. I give them a standard welcome message, but it would be good to have something psychology-specific as well, as many other WikiProjects have. So I've created Template:Psychology_welcome, but I'd welcome input/improvements from other editors before putting it to use. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 22:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Good idea! Do I understand you correctly that this template should come after a welcome template and not instead of one? I think templates with a picture are a tad more appealing. What about adding this one? Lova Falk talk 10:27, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the idea is that it would be used in conjunction with an existing welcome template or welcome message. I agree about having a picture: so far, it's been hard to find one that is general enough to be compatible with a very broad interpretation of psychology. Psychology being about people, a picture of people ought to be non-controversial, though. This is better than nothing but a bit like clip-art. Anybody have any other image suggestions? MartinPoulter (talk) 11:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

There is of course always this one, but it's not so colourful: Lova Falk talk 13:52, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

User:Jacobisq has done a lot of seriously awesome work mainly on psychology articles but also on some sociology and philosophy articles. His earlier work was done in an unconventional style where he simply quoted text fragments from the source instead of summarising the cited source. Apart from possible copywrite issues, it also makes the text difficult to read. He is now no longer doing this (see User_talk:Jacobisq#CCI_Notice) and is gradually converting his old material listed at User:Jacobisq/Article list but it is a slow process as he only devotes a certain amount of time to this and he also likes to do new work. If you can help with the conversion please do. I would help myself but quite a lot of it is out of my depth. It may not be necessary to access the original sources that User:Jacobisq used but an understanding of the subject matter is a prerequisite. His cites are meticulously accurate.

It had occurred to me that it may be viable to apply for a Wikigrant http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start for User:Jacobisq to devote his time in a concentrated way to doing his own cleanup as it is a clearly defined task as defined by User:Jacobisq/Article list. However i suspect the odds are against both User:Jacobisq agreeing to the grant idea and it getting Wiki approval, also an upcoming deadline for this will almost certainly get missed anyway. Incidentally User:Jacobisq is currently on a wikibreak but may be back fairly soon.--Penbat (talk) 10:22, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Could some of you please have a look at Talk:Narcissism in which I try to discuss Examples of narcissism in the media? This section contains a long unsourced list in which it seems that any selfish (J. R. Ewing) or self-confident (Patrick Jane) character gets a place. I would like to remove it, but before doing so I would like to hear if there are any objections. Thank you! Lova Falk talk 15:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 Done Thank you all who helped! Lova Falk talk 08:57, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Is it OK to make this draft into a new page and link to it from Outline_of_psychology#Lists?

I'm doing the initial population by extracting psychological effects from List_of_effects.

Earcanal (talk) 19:07, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I think this could be quite useful. The subject focus could make it a lot more interesting than the list of effects. Better still would be adapting the first sentence from each article into a one-sentence definition for this page, and indicate if an effect goes under different names (e.g. above average effect = Lake Wobegon effect). I'm not 100% sure what the policy is on the admissibility of lists.

'Subject focus'? Could you provide an example? Earcanal (talk) 11:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

All that means is that a "list of effects in psychology" is more interesting than a "list of effects of any kind" article, and since the latter already exists, that suggests the former belongs on Wikipedia as well. MartinPoulter (talk) 12:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Have gone for a simple list initially. Earcanal (talk) 17:20, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Nice start! Lova Falk talk 17:31, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I was sifting through the list of dead-end pages and came across Functional approach. Google Scholar was no help to me, as many research papers in psychology are titled A study of X: a functional approach or similar, so I've had a difficult time determining if this is original research or a valid article. Can someone here look it over and deal with it appropriately. Thanks. Mindmatrix 21:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

The functional approach is another term for functionalism: the study of the purpose mental processes serve in enabling people to adapt to their environment. Our article about this is called Functional psychology. Seeing the quality of Functional approach, or rather, the lack of quality, I would say Functional approach can (should?) be changed into a redirect. Lova Falk talk 08:00, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

At Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Heuristics_in_judgment_and_decision_making there is a discussion about whether an article in this WikiProject's scope should have been tagged for unencyclopedic tone. Additional perspectives on this would be welcome. MartinPoulter (talk) 16:06, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Following advice from the Teahouse I made a redirect from Eye gaze to Eye contact. But it is more than simply [Eye contact]], as includes sharing of attention, communication of attention shift, and the cooperative eye hypothesis. It is also a huge part of Gaze. Should it be its own summary page with link off to these other pages?

The term "eye gaze" is found in many pages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_contact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_tracking - "point of gaze" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_attention - "means of eye-gazing" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonverbal_communication "eye gaze" link to eye contact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_eye_hypothesis

Bodysurfinyon (talk) 16:51, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The Frank Farrelly article was a mess so we tried AfD to see if consensus would be to fix or delete. Editors from this project may want input.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hyperia (epilepsy) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyperia (epilepsy) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Maralia (talk) 15:21, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

I have found this project Education Program:Davidson College/Cognitive Psychology (2013 Q1). Many articles are medicine related. Students have to add or develop a section in the article and include 10 references. However only a reduced emphasis has been made on the use of secondary sources, and as of today students have posted some possible sources to be used in the talk pages of the articles and in most cases are primary. I have indicated the problem to the teacher and embassador (yesterday) but it is still too soon to see the effect. Nevertheless more eyes would be a good idea. --Garrondo (talk) 14:58, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Every single student so far who has presented their sources, plans to use primary sources... It is a total drag!! However I have had help in phrasing a text about sources that I can paste (sometimes with minor adjustments) as a comment to their plans. Please feel free to copy and paste it anywhere that it is needed. (I put it in nowikitags here so it is easier to copy):

All sources you mention are [[WP:primary sources]], that is, results of single studies. However, '''Wikipedia is not an academic paper or essay!''' Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published [[secondary source]]s (for instance, journal reviews and professional or advanced academic textbooks) and, to a lesser extent, on [[tertiary source]]s (such as undergraduate textbooks). [[WP:MEDRS]] describes how to identify reliable sources for medical information, which is a good guideline for many psychology articles as well. So please, reconsider your choice of sources and use secondary sources instead! With friendly regards, ~~~~

I also intend to ruthlessly delete all new student content based on primary sources. Lova Falk talk 17:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Unless I get there first.... Dbrodbeck (talk) 20:50, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lova Falk. I just saw your cautionary blurb in action. It looks really good. Would you mind if I borrow it from time to time. Cheers Andrew (talk) 08:45, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I would be so happy if you did! Below is the one I paste when they just write they are students, and nothing is said about sources. Lova Falk talk 09:32, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Welcome! Please remember that Wikipedia is not an academic paper or essay! Wikipedia articles should not be based on [[WP:primary sources]], but on reliable, published [[secondary source]]s (for instance, journal reviews and professional or advanced academic textbooks) and, to a lesser extent, on [[tertiary source]]s (such as undergraduate textbooks). [[WP:MEDRS]] describes how to identify reliable sources for medical information, which is a good guideline for many psychology articles as well. With friendly regards, ~~~~

See the talk page of new user Psyc-mmills (talk · contribs), the instructor of a class project which has started producing a string of articles labelled:

"NOTE: This is a stub, and it will be expanded as a university class project until May 10, 2013 under the auspices of the Association for Psychological Science Wikipedia Initiative."

It's not clear what university this is. A good deal of advice has been provided, including pointers here and to WP:SUP, but many of the new articles are being deleted as content forks of Evolutionary psychology. The project needs some watchful eyes, and help to guide them to a useful plan. JohnCD (talk) 14:47, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

In hopes of expanding the depth and legitimacy of Wikipedia, I would like to further develop the article entitled “Emotional Labor.” I would like to add research-based conclusions from psychological research journals, such as work completed by Rebecca Erickson, Alicia Grandey, and David Holman. Along with adding research-based conclusions, I would also like to connect these theoretical concepts to specific examples of emotional labor with the current labor market. Besides having mediocre ratings based on Wikipedia standards while also missing substantial amounts of important information, the importance of the article’s subject matter merits its expansion. Most people hope to be an effective and successful member of the workforce. However, being an effective member of the workforce does not only require having the necessary individual qualifications. Success also requires understanding how the workforce operates as an institution. The concept of emotional labor is a theoretical concept first theorized by Arlie Hochschild that brings a specific and important understanding of the workforce to light. Specifically, as the American economy shifts from a manufacturing to a service economy, control of one’s emotions based on companies’ standards have become so important that emotions have become a commodity in and of themselves. Essentially, I think understanding how emotional labor works ultimately leads to a better understanding of the labor force more generally. I would greatly appreciate any feedback or suggestions on any potentially useful resources.

Morell21 (talk) 19:14, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

The make believe article is sadly languishing. Is childhood pretend play a topic of interest within developmental psychology? Would the Psychology project like to take this article under its wing? Ryan Paddy (talk) 03:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

As part of a class project, I plan to revise the Low enrollment of women in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics Education and Careers article and retitle it "Women in STEM (United States)". According to the notice at the top of the article page, this article is currently written “like a personal reflection or essay” and needs to be rewritten in encyclopedic style. While I do not plan to rewrite the entire article, I do plan to add a substantial amount of information and to possibly restructure and revise parts of the existing article. In particular, I wish to discuss the social, structural, and psychological factors that help explain the low numbers of women in STEM fields. Besides making the title more concise, I also wish to change the name of the article to reflect on both the challenges that women face in entering STEM careers and the progress they have made. Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychology is "dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of psychology, psychological theories, psychological research and psychotherapy." Many psychologists, particularly those in Social Psychology and Industrial/Organizational Psychology, have explored the obstacles that women face in male-dominated occupations such as the ones in STEM fields. Many of my additions will focus on social psychological phenomena like stereotype threat and the Pygmalion effect, as well as social and structural phenomena like discrimination and the leaky pipeline. However, women have also made progress in entering STEM fields and certain STEM areas (e.g., Biology and Psychology) tend to have large numbers of women. It is important to recognize women's achievements and contributions in these fields. Nevertheless, there is still a long way to go to reaching full equality. In revising this article, I hope to give a comprehensive overview of the current state of Women in STEM careers while addressing many of the current issues with the existing article. I would appreciate any feedback and look forward to contributing to this project. Naomi FK (talk) 13:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Please discuss this on Talk:Low enrollment of women in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics Education and Careers instead, so we don't get two discussions in two places. Lova Falk talk 07:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I see that the article IQ reference chart has been tagged by another editor to draw expert attention to it. It is at once a high-priority article for this project, and a start class (low quality) article at the moment. I have been drafting an update of the article, with references to reliable sources, in the sandbox attached to my user page, and I invite all of you to take a look at that. I will be doing more revisions soon. I think the best approach for this article (but I invite your possibly differing opinions) is to do a bold edit that completely replaces the current article text with a thorough revision once the revision is well drafted and thoroughly referenced. Please let me know what you think. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 13:30, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

After a rough interaction with an educational project, in which I tried to enforce that articles were mainly based in secondary sources the online embassador of this educational psychology project is discussing if the use of (mainly) secondary sources should be required. My opinion is clearly that it is.

I am sure some will be interested in commenting their opinion on the use of secondary sources, specially due to the increasing number of educational assigments on medical and psychology articles, and some of the problems that have arrived with them.

Lova Falk also had similar problems with this educational project and their use of sources, but she has recently taken a wikibreak.

--Garrondo (talk) 09:58, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I would love to have some input from the members of WikiProject Psychology. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 18:02, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Where on-wiki do any of the discussions mentioned here occur? --Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 06:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Input from members of this project might be helpful at Talk:Suicide#Revisit "Commit" language as Not Neutral. Markhenick (talk) 14:20, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Will someone within this community please review my article on Team Composition and Cohesion in Spaceflight? Any input will be greatly appreciated. Jssteil (talk) 03:02, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

(The above was posted on the Psychology Portal talk page, but is more appropriate here.) MartinPoulter (talk) 10:18, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd appreciate peer review on my Causal Reasoning (Psychology) article. Thank you! Lilypad221 (talk) 16:17, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

The recently created page Evolutionary psychology of language seems to cover a topic quite similar to that of Origin of language and may constitute a content fork. Please see my comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics#Evolutionary psychology of language and contribute your opinions to that discussion. Cnilep (talk) 03:33, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi everyone! I am a college student working on a stub article for the Overlearning article. Does anyone have any suggestions for this article as I move forward with revisions? Thank you! Chelseylandis619 (talk) 22:23, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi all,

I recently wrote my first article (Statistical learning in language acquisition), and would love some feedback on it from people who have been around a little longer than I have. Thanks in advance! InnocuousPilcrow (talk) 14:09, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I've recently come across many stories where former drug addicts talk about how they beat their drug addictions with the help of moderate to high intensity exercises.

Does anyone have access to any studies that has been undertaken in the past. Or would anyone volunteer to write up an article on this? I did come across an article here on exercise addiction...but there was no mention of drug addicts as a subset of population who might also be at risk of exercise addiction.

The reason I think this would be important is the ever growing number of people with prescription drug addictions in the US as well as globally. So much so that this problem is now among the leading cause of death.Day'jav (talk) 16:21, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

We really need involvement of new volunteers so please feel free to improve existing content on the topic or create new articles, as long as you use reliable sources. Other editors may be willing to give you a hand on how to write the article, but most probably nobody will be capable of creating new content as there is so much to improve out there. --Garrondo (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Agree. We can't rely on anecdotes or newspaper stories, though, and the scientific evidence is unfortunately rather limited. If you want to get into this topic, a good way to start might be by reading the Introduction to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2889694/. (The paper itself, being a pilot study, is not a good source, but the introduction gives a useful survey of the recent literature.) Looie496 (talk) 20:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I have absolutely no idea of how to correctly participate with this grand project called Wikipedea. But I feel a need to mention a note, on Choiceless Awareness.Perhaps someone else could look at this, and clean it up a bit.

I think some of us would look at this "Choiceless Awareness",and wonder what it feels like. In this, I shall attempt some guidance.

An exercise. Remember a moment, when your eye was caught, by a magifecent scene. Or, reflect on when you were in polite conversation, while at dinner, and your attention is brought to the taste on your tongue. And, reflect on the listening to a presentation of music, and feeling yourself being swooned on the kalideoscope of sounds.

That moment. That very moment. Just before you starting to think about it. You were/are there! This might be the goal of meditation. But be aware that goals aren't choiceless. Let go of the goals. Let go of the thinking

This might be that moment called Enlightenment

Now to strech this a bit. That/this state of mind/body, is where all other life forms have always been. They are all "in this moment"

There are hundreds of millions of people in this state right now. They are called Babies. And, at this moment, even our own bodies have always been/are here. Our bodies don't need our permission, to do what bodies do.

That leaves just one thing, that is in a state of conflict. And, that is our thinking. Thinking has always been a tool. Not an identity — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trenner49 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Bringing reliable sources to back up any theories and improvements to articles would be a great way of collaborating.--Garrondo (talk) 11:07, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Just so everyone knows, I will be taking a temporary Wikibreak for at least 5-7 days to let off some steam and get myself reenergized. Some of the stress has got to me, so I think it's best if I should take a couple of days off. I also have final exams coming up as well. Till then, adios. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:27, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi folks, I have nominated the ADHD article for good article consideration on WP:GAN#PSYCH if anyone would like to review it. :-) There is quite a back log of articles there that could do with some volunteers from this project helping to clear. :-) I think that the ADHD article should be given priority but I am thoroughly biased!! :=)--MrADHD | T@1k? 18:59, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

the usage of Psychos is under discussion, see talk:Psychos (TV series) -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 00:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

This article could use some attention. It has been massively rewritten today by a new editor (or at least a new account) in a way that I think is not an improvement. My inclination is to revert, but for the moment I have settled for starting a discussion on the talk page. Looie496 (talk) 02:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

My impression is that the article has been rewritten from the viewpoint of some contemporary "practical" form of behaviourism; much of the material on history and methodology has been deleted. Instead, BCBA/modern behaviour analysis method and standards are stressed. — Some sections clearly needed a reorganization or even a rewrite, as well as more sources. However, now there is only a third of the original references left. Allover, I don't think that is an improvement. 㓟 (talk) 07:12, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

From my POV: I would revert and move to talk last version for further discussion or future use. --Garrondo (talk) 09:09, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I have reverted. There is too much material to move it to the talk page, I think. Incidentally, it looks to me like this might be another education project, so continued attention would be useful. Thanks, Looie496 (talk) 15:11, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. These articles now look familiar:

* Professional practice of behavior analysis

* Applied behavior analysis

* Experimental analysis of behavior

Would you please also inform WP:COGSCI in case of potentially problematic edits etc.? Thanks and kind regards, 㓟 (talk) 19:12, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I created User:Canoe1967/Period of purple crying after someone at help desk wondered why we didn't have an article on it. Your project is the only one listed on the Crying talk page. I just found a source today that has some good stats including:

" Since its full implementation in January 2009, the breakthrough Period of PURPLE Crying Program has helped reduce the number of cases of abusive head trauma in B.C. infants six months and younger by 58 per cent."

I don't want to fumble it into any articles that it may belong in or create an article that may end up a mess. Here is the one source I found: http://www.newsroom.gov.bc.ca/2012/10/period-of-purple-crying-program-helps-keep-bc-babies-safe.html from a British Columbia government website. If it isn't worthy of its own article we could just create it as a redirect to a section on it in another article. Thoughts?--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:29, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Hedda Bolgar, a new stub, would make a great DYK if someone has time to expand it ... ! Djembayz (talk) 18:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

It has been proposed to merge or not merge Categorization and Taxonomy (general). See Talk:Categorization#Merge. Kind regards, 㓟 (talk) 21:00, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

I have almost finished reworking the above article as far as my sources and patience will allow, but I feel it lacks sufficient weight towards both psychosocial factors in the causes section, and details of psychosocial interventions in the treatment section. Many sources suggest that psychosocial causes are the main cause of bruxism, and therefore logically psychosocial interventions are a good place to start given that there is barely any evidence for any of the other treatments that have been described. Maybe someone here could be tempted to expand these sections... thank you, Lesion (talk) 15:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Mrm7171 has been attempting to make wholesale changes and some smaller changes in occupational health psychology, the Society for Occupational Health Psychology, applied psychology (as it bears on occupational health psychology), and in the psychology sidebar‎ (as it bears on occupational health psychology). I think we can discuss our ideas bearing on OHP. I have tried to engage Mrm7171 in a dialogue about edits, but without success. In the event he is new to Wikipedia, I included a link to his talk page in some of my responses to his changes. I think that some of his changes are too wholesale, and he has attempted to reduce OHP to a province of industrial/organization psychology. I have responded to him on his talk page and on the OHP talk page.

Is there a psychology contributor who can help arrange a dialogue between Mrm7171 and me? Thanks.Iss246 (talk) 00:13, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

My impression is that the original edits to OHC by Mrm7171 are not productive. Lots of material was deliberately deleted without any comment, and material that was added does not seem to care much about encyclopaedic standards beginning with the first sentence. As to a dialogue, it does not seem to look like Mrm7171 is willing to comment on his/her talk page or the article's talk page (except for the all-caps edit comments). As Iss246 seems to have background knowledge in the area, it should be a good idea for him/her, particularly regarding the points that Mrm7171 advocates in his/her edit comments, to produce sources which are suitable to support the respective claims. However, even if OHP should be considered a subfield of I/O Psy, the mere removal of whole sections on OHP does not make much sense. Kind regards, 㓟 (talk) 08:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello: recently I've been trying to use googlescholar as a tool to help evaluate prominence of researchers. However, I don't really have a gauge for interpreting the results in fields outside of mathematics. I am currently interested in [this researcher's data]. I have nominated his self-authored BLP for deletion since it reads like an article acting as a soapbox, and does not contain many (if any) references outside of his personal website. I do want to do due diligence though in ascertaining the appropriateness of that article. The googlescholar results linked to above show the top cited papers are 98, 97, 37, 24, and then the rest rapidly dwindle. Do these results alone merit having a BLP in wikipedia? I can't tell, but I suspect not... Thank you for any advice you can give. Rschwieb (talk) 14:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Those are not very high numbers of citations -- in themselves they would not justify an article, and it is clear that his ideas are outside the mainstream. However, he has a book published by Erlbaum (generally a good publisher), and he has a target article in Behavioral and Brain Sciences -- not as meaningful as it used to be, but still meaningful. So I would say that he is notable enough to justify an article, if appropriate sources are available. Looie496 (talk) 15:10, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Morevoer: work citations do not give notability to a person , but to its work. If there are no secondary sources (that is, not self published) talking about a person, then, no matters how many citations have his publications, this person is not notable. --Garrondo (talk) 15:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your clear and prompt responses! I think in light of this, I'll revise the nomination to ask for better citations, reevaluation of POV, and more assurance the information comes from secondary sources (and not the pen of the subject directly.) Rschwieb (talk) 17:29, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

One more thing: do you think that subject's research area falls under WP:Psychology, or is there a better project to alert about the proposed deletion? (The subject was already notified. I just wanted more people to get a look at it.) Rschwieb (talk) 17:41, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I believe a "controversies" headline should be added to the bipolar page given the fact that the Wiki Iatrogenic page lists bipolar as a disorder that is considered to be partially or wholly iatrogenic. I also believe this is important given Allen Frances', the head of the DSM-IV-TR, recent concerns regarding a "childhood bipolar epidemic," and warnings of "Psychiatric Diagnosis Gone Wild." I also believe it is important due to the comment by Dr. Insel, the head of NIMH, who stated that NIMH would no longer be directing research funds at projects based solely on DSM classifications because these disorders are not based on scientific etiologies and are "lacking in validity." Plus, there is the controversy regarding Dr. Joseph Biederman, his ties to pharmaceutical companies, and his "widening" the scope of bipolar diagnosis criteria, to include childhood bipolar. 1998sh (talk) 22:15, 23 May 2013

Best place to discuss the edits you propose is the article's talk page where you can reach consensus with other editors involved. Nevertheless you would need high quaility sources that follow WP:MEDRS (mainly review articles in peer-reviewed journals, or professional books) to back up your proposals. --Garrondo (talk) 06:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

There is an RfC here Talk:Hans-Hermann_Hoppe#RfC:_Should_the_section_title_for_Academic_freedom_controversy_be_changed.3F concerning the article on Hans-Hermann Hoppe. There is extensive background discussion elsewhere on the talk page there. SPECIFICO talk 02:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Note: I have revised the section heading here to reflect what the RfC title is and modified the link to create a Wikilink. – S. Rich (talk) 14:27, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I have opened a discussion on Template talk:Narcissism about my concerns regarding that template. And I invite the views of other editors, so please comment whether you agree or disagree. Thanks, Farrajak (talk) 22:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Back in March 2013, I noticed that the article IQ reference chart has been tagged by another editor to draw expert attention to it. It is at once a high-priority article for this project (it has over 2,000 page views per day), and a start class (low quality) article at the moment. I have been drafting an update of the article, with references to reliable sources, in the user sandbox attached to my user page, and I invite all of you to take a look at that. I will be doing more revisions soon. I think the best approach for this article (but I invite your possibly differing opinions) is to do a bold edit that completely replaces the current article text with a thorough revision once the revision is well drafted and thoroughly referenced. Please let me know what you think. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 23:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

The article IQ reference chart is still identified as a high-priority article for this project. I have read all the diffs of all the edits committed to the article since the beginning of 2009 (since before I started editing Wikipedia). I see the great majority of edits over that span have been vandalism (often by I.P. editors, presumably teenagers, inserting the names of their classmates in charts of IQ classifications) and reversions of vandalism (often automatically by ClueBot). Just a few editors have referred to and cited published reliable sources on the topic of IQ classification. It is dismaying to see that the number of reliable sources cited in the article has actually declined over the last few years. To help the process of finding reliable sources for articles on psychology and related topics, I have been compiling a source list on intelligence since I became a Wikipedian in 2010, and I invite you to make use of those sources as you revise articles on Wikipedia and to suggest further sources for the source on the talk pages of the source list and its subpages. Because the IQ reference chart article has been tagged as needing expert attention for more than half a year, I have opened discussion on the article's talk page about how to fix the article, and I welcome you to join the discussion. The draft I have in my user sandbox shows my current thinking about a reader-friendly, well sourced way to update and improve the article. I invite your comments and especially your suggestions of reliable sources as the updating process proceeds. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 22:51, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks to two editors active in this project who have commented on the talk page of my sandbox draft of updates for IQ classification (the article's new title). I appreciate their help, and invite your suggestions while I incorporate their suggestions into further updates of the draft. They both told me I should post the new text soon to the public-facing article, taking it out of my user sandbox, and I intend to do that in the next few days. I have found that the comments on the article from Wikipedia's article rating system (you can find the link on the article talk page) are also very helpful as suggestions about what content to add to the article. Feel free to comment as the new version of the article rolls out. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 16:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi everyone. I am working on an article about the CCS. It is in my sandbox, any help or advice is welcome. Oh yeah it is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dbrodbeck/sandbox/CCS Dbrodbeck (talk) 23:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Nice, you should also notice WP:COGSCI. Kind regards, 㓟 (talk) 10:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. Dbrodbeck (talk) 11:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)