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"Jimbo had the decency to respond to the established process, which is Arbcom, when questioned after he blocked an admin."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=508498698] Really? Are you sure you didn't mean he had the decency to try to bully me into withdrawing the case, and (somewhat successfully) to bully Arbcom into dismissing it with a fatuously one-sided motion? If Jimbo's godkingly "statement" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=306113495#Statement_by_Jimbo_Wales here] isn't enough for you, perhaps it would help to consult the Wikipedia Review leaks of what went on re the case on the secret Arbcom mailing list, much of it in defiance of even remotely "established process". Setting up Jimbo as the moral superior of Raul as regards RFAR? Please. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 21:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC).
"Jimbo had the decency to respond to the established process, which is Arbcom, when questioned after he blocked an admin."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=508498698] Really? Are you sure you didn't mean he had the decency to try to bully me into withdrawing the case, and (somewhat successfully) to bully Arbcom into dismissing it with a fatuously one-sided motion? If Jimbo's godkingly "statement" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=306113495#Statement_by_Jimbo_Wales here] isn't enough for you, perhaps it would help to consult the Wikipedia Review leaks of what went on re the case on the secret Arbcom mailing list, much of it in defiance of even remotely "established process". Setting up Jimbo as the moral superior of Raul as regards RFAR? Please. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 21:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC).
: That told you :D -- on the other hand, Jimbo didn't flip the bird at the committee. --[[User:Famously Sharp|Famously Sharp]] ([[User talk:Famously Sharp|talk]]) 00:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

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Please note
I have moved my talk page to archives, and so the 4+ years of history from 2008 to 2012 can be found there (link). If there's a past discussion you want to view, you can find it there. Thank you.
Note 2
Also please note that this account is not very active as of mid-2012. If you wish to get in touch - you can stop by at User talk:Chedzilla and either post to that talk page - or email /that/ account. (due to security breaches in the Yahoo email system - I have changed the email to this account). My reasons for distancing myself from this (my administrative account) are two fold: 1) I wanted to get away from the HUGE watchlist I feel responsible to as an admin. 2) While there are a great number of "admins" that I truly admire and respect - the few bad apples that bring disrespect to the collective group have left me feeling frustrated and embarrassed to be a part of said group. I will still on occasion log in here if I feel my tools are needed to stop disruption, or to assist another good-faith editor in their efforts. In the end, I'd rather just work on articles - so if you're looking for me, I'm not retired, just changing directions. Stuff I'll likely be around: NASCAR, Movies, TV shows, Military History, literature, sci-fy, space, or just general copy-editing stuff/help. See ya out there. Thanks, Ched


And the Checkered flag waves!

There it goes!
I thought you deserve a checkered flag for the assistance with List of female NASCAR drivers after the yellow flag. =3 Zappa (talk) 23:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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An Anne Frank quote for you!

File:Anne Frank stamp.jpg An Anne Frank quote for you!

It's a wonder I haven't abandoned all my ideals, they seem so absurd and impractical. Yet I cling to them because I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart.

— Anne Frank
Dianna (talk) 13:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
For your outstanding support and dedication in getting Yogo sapphire from a new article to DYK to GA to FA and FOUR. The team effort of the uncountable people involved in getting this unique article to FA is a textbook case of teamwork in article improvement, ie, what Wikipedia should be, not what it all too often is. I can never thank everyone enough. PumpkinSky talk 23:16, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar of good cheer

Barnstar of good cheer
Keep up the good work, Ched, and don't forget to take some time out to enjoy yourself! 28bytes (talk) 17:56, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Puppies need friends

WOOF WOOF Puppy of Dog The Teddy BearWOOF 01:29, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To a friend

Ched, I dedicated articles to missing friends, now the opposite: one year after you brightened my dark days I dedicate to you the baby of collaboration, the shelter Laufen Hut, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ps: you were also the one to teach me the abbreviations above, thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are a wonderfully kind person Gerda - looking forward to a long and happy wiki-friendship. — Ched :  ?  01:46, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.

Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the #wikimedia-office connect IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HanzoHattori/Niemti

I am willing to leave it to you. I have no objection to unblocking. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support [1]. My very best wishes (talk) 12:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you My very best wishes. I'd like to think that if more folks did a bit more research before acting and posting on wiki that we'd have a bit more congenial place to work with. — Ched :  ?  17:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Niemti has just been blocked again. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I noticed; but thank you for the update. Given the various board discussions, Dennis' and Berean's talk threads etc., I suppose it's simply a matter of time and dedication before removal; but "Cast thy bread upon water" and all that. — Ched :  ?  13:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burpelson AFB (talkcontribs) 21:37 UTC (UTC)

Just to note that I've seen this. Sorry you didn't feel you could come discuss the matter with me. — Ched :  ?  02:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Hi, Ched. Just to let you know that I have started a discussion regarding HanzoHattori/Niemti's behavior at User talk:Dennis Brown#Question. You are welcome to participate and voice your opinions about it there. Thank you, Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Astoria CH dab deletion request

Thanks for making that Astoria City Hall page move, to allow the DYK to proceed faster. All that remains, as far as I can see, is that the page Astoria City Hall (disambiguation) – which a bot created per WP:INTDABLINK, as a redirect – needs to be deleted, as no longer needed. SJ Morg (talk) 10:47, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

and  Done sir. Nice article by the way. ;-) — Ched :  ?  10:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much! SJ Morg (talk) 10:56, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problems .. always glad to help out where I can. — Ched :  ?  10:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

I didn't see him reword it at the time, but it now reads, "Should site bans continue to be proposed for users even though they are already blocked indefinitely?". I don't know if you saw this before your last comment, but it definitely changes the interpretable meaning of the RfC. Cheers :> Doc talk 06:11, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WOW ... I'll say. That certainly does change the meaning. I'll stop back tomorrow as it's rather late here. Thank you Doc for pointing that out to me. — Ched :  ?  06:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! I can see now how easily it could have been misread, but I saw the attempted policy change when it happened and then the RfC opening, so I knew the background that sparked it. I predict it may get a little snowy in that neck of the woods, but I'm no weatherman! 'Nite :> Doc talk 06:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Thanks for the note and links Linda Rider (talk) 19:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I hope everything can be worked out to everyone's satisfaction. Best of luck. — Ched :  ?  20:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my RfA, I really appreciate it. =)

And on a slightly pertinent note, I just noticed your signature is strikingly similar to that of Pedro's. Just thought I'd point that out. Master&Expert (Talk) 00:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi M&E. I'm sorry it didn't work out for you, but I'll also keep an eye open for other users in the future to support as well. Re: "Pedro" - yes, I fully admit that I have copied his sig. code and adopted it for my sig. IIRC it all started back in 2009 during an April 1 day of humor when many editors copied his sig; however, I found that the clean simple look of it appealing, and it made it easy to spot when scrolling quickly through long pages. There is much to admire about Pedro, and hopefully he realizes my copying his signature is more an homage than a mimic or mock. There is also at least one other editor who uses that sig. as well. On a side note: He (Pedro) is also the person who nom'ed me for RfA, so I'm content to keep the sig unless or until he would object. So... Best of luck in your continued fine work on WP. Cheers and best. — Ched :  ?  08:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Pedro's quite the character, never compromises on his principles, nor shy's away from giving his honest opinion. The quintessential straightshooter. I've always quite liked him. =)
Yep, you can definitely count on seeing a guy named Kurtis around Wikipedia from next week onward. I guess you noticed that I, too, am getting my name usurped. It's something I've thought about for quite some time, but with my RfA, I got more incentive to do so. And good thing, too — I'd grown rather dispirited with this username.
Take care, and I hope to see you around again sometime. =) Master&Expert (Talk) 12:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Credo sign-up

Hi Ched! We're going to go through a new round of sign-ups in August. You'll be high on the list if you just add your name here: Wikipedia:Credo_accounts#Sign-up sheet. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 11:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Already there .. thank you. — Ched :  ?  13:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Today's lulz

I'm just a 'Poe boy, nobody loves me

... He's just a Poe boy, from a Poe family.ref

***Slapping the creator of horrible puns! *** Montanabw(talk) 18:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
<hangs head>... I sorwy. Facebook is a terrible disease, and there's no known cure. :/ — Ched :  ?  19:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ched

So nice to see that you found your right name, awesome Wikipedian of 5 October 2009 and 18 February 2012, changed here, but not the historic one, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Name

Oh gods, I don't know what to call you anymore! I don't think I can deal with this change in username...it's just too much! Huntster (t @ c) 08:32, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(watching) see above, I like that he took the name I called him anyway, matching his signature --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. Not exactly real high on the originality scale I guess - but still lets me distance myself from "real life" a bit. I guess it's an "epic fail" on "teh dramaz" scale too. In the end, I'm not embarrassed by my efforts over the years, so it's not like I wanted to disappear either. Wonder if I should change my "sig" ...
Naaaa — Ched :  ?  13:02, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good change, but I just can't believe the name "Ched" was free and available. Every single account name I, or err... another one of me, ever try to, ahem, register, is always taken. (Yeah, including User:Jaws, even though there wasn't a userpage for it until db created it as a redirect.) I suppose you probably had to get "Ched" usurped? Even so, it's amazing. Bishonen | talk 15:26, 17 August 2012 (UTC).[reply]
Yep .. Master look and find User:Ched - but only have half-dozen minor edits from 2005-2007. Master ask on user talk if ok to use - no reply after a week.. request WP:USURP. Great kind powers look down kindly from above on little master. All happy in "Cheddom" now. :) — ChedZILLA 15:34, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know...

...he's not actually a rabbit! Nuff said. -- CassiantoTalk 18:55, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Really?. And yes, I did get the humor - that still doesn't make it right. Just be careful with those kinds of things in the future - not everyone "gets it" is all I'm saying. Nuff said? — Ched :  ?  19:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
oh come on lighten up! I have been offended with some of the things he has said like the constant swearing (not everyone "gets" that either). Caustic humour is what he displays to others and often throws it about freely, not giving a hoot about the repercussions. A taste of his own medicine, I think, is justified here. -- CassiantoTalk 19:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK - maybe. Yes, I know that Br'er can give as good as he gets. Not something I was trying to make a big deal out of. Just be careful with that kind of humor - sometimes it can come back at you in ways you weren't expecting. I've noticed that not everyone here has a particularly great sense of humor; and I know I'm an old fart about the joint - and "NO" .. I do not want to be a grumpy old "get off my lawn" curmudgeon about things. Just offering a tip. — Ched :  ?  19:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. Thanks for the look out. Tip taken.  :-) -- CassiantoTalk 19:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Coolio :-) — Ched :  ?  19:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A kind and generous view - in your opinion

  • - diff - The user whose comment you supported and described as "a kind and generous view" (previous diff) was an extreme WP:BLP violator that I defended living people against over a lengthy period - he attacked me repeatedly, personally and at any noticeboard report, as they all do - since your support of his comments against me. he is now blocked indef by the committee - diff Youreallycan 23:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the update. — Ched :  ?  12:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Another update

He he. darwinbish BITE 19:00, 19 August 2012 (UTC).[reply]

LOL .. FANTASTIC!!! Immabe lovin' dat. — Ched :  ?  19:54, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CCI

For CCI's where the problem is from a user copying too much from the source yet referencing it, a good way for those unfamiliar to double check is the [toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/ Duplication Detector Tool]. I went and used it on the York article and found a 59-word copypaste on Ref #1, starting at "flesh is coarse textured crisp...". The trick sometimes is to just go through the article and check the sources rather than trying to figure out what parts the user may or may not have added. No need to stop, just make sure you're looking at all possible sources. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Your question

"@SilkTork - can you clarify "how many" people it takes before a small group of people become a part of the community?" I am not sure what you are asking me. Everyone who takes part in Wikipedia is part of the community, so there isn't an amount of people. Perhaps you were thinking of asking me to clarify how much impact a dispute needs to have before I feel that it is worth the Committee's time? If there's a disagreement between two people on their talk pages, and it doesn't spill out beyond their talk pages, and nobody else gets involved, then there is zero impact. If a disagreement has spilled out, so that articles are unstable, titles are being moved and removed, information is being frequently altered so that readers are uncertain what is reliable, and there are several discussions a month on the admin forums which drag in 20+ admins who argue bitterly rather than dealing with other issues, then that is significant impact. This case request appears to fall somewhere between those two extremes. I am inclined to feel, based on the evidence presented, that the impact of this dispute falls closer to zero than significant. If I am presented with evidence that it is closer to significant than I am currently seeing, then I will certainly have a rethink.

I'm not watchlisting this page, so if you have any follow up comments on this, please let me know on my talkpage. SilkTork ✔Tea time 19:14, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

.. and your comment

"Jimbo had the decency to respond to the established process, which is Arbcom, when questioned after he blocked an admin."[2] Really? Are you sure you didn't mean he had the decency to try to bully me into withdrawing the case, and (somewhat successfully) to bully Arbcom into dismissing it with a fatuously one-sided motion? If Jimbo's godkingly "statement" here isn't enough for you, perhaps it would help to consult the Wikipedia Review leaks of what went on re the case on the secret Arbcom mailing list, much of it in defiance of even remotely "established process". Setting up Jimbo as the moral superior of Raul as regards RFAR? Please. Bishonen | talk 21:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC).[reply]

That told you :D -- on the other hand, Jimbo didn't flip the bird at the committee. --Famously Sharp (talk) 00:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]