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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article San Luis Shrine Desecration (Mormons) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/San Luis Shrine Desecration (Mormons) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. NellieBly (talk) 00:40, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --NellieBly (talk) 07:14, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not make statements attacking people or groups of people. Wikipedia has a strict policy against personal attacks. Attack pages and images are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images in violation of our biographies of living persons policy will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you.

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I've deleted your user page as an attack page improperly defaming an entire religion and its founder. While users are given a fair amount of latitude on their user pages, given that pushing your extreme point of view was basically the entire purpose for your page, I believe that it falls under our definition of an WP:Attack page. If you create a new user page, you may include your opinions on it, but please understand that Wikipedia is not your blog or personal web site to explain how bad a particular religion is.

I'm also concerned about the editing you've been doing on LDS articles as well. Please review WP:NPOV and WP:OR, to understand how Wikipedia works more clearly. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:46, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has a very firm neutral point of view policy. It seems as though your opinions about the Mormon church are much too strong to allow you to edit about that subject in a neutral way. That's fine; many of us have subjects we avoid because it's hard for us to edit them neutrally. If you are most interested in helping make the encyclopedia better, I'll know that when I see edits from you that are fully neutral, fully sourced, and in subjects completely unrelated to this subject. For example, I've often thought that a motivated and skilled writer could make our Puppy article a lot better than it is. If, on the other hand, you are most interested in promoting your opinions about the Mormon church, that's something that you will be able to do more appropriately on your own web site or blog, but not at Wikipedia. If you're more interested in promoting your opinions than in making the encyclopedia better, I'll know that when I see edits from you that continue to try to push bias against Mormonism into the encyclopedia, and I'll help you relocate your opinions to your own web site or blog by blocking you from further editing at Wikipedia. I'll check in on your edits to see whether you've decided to be a useful encyclopedia editor or a blocked user. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 10:36, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Threats are a terrible way to induce an editor to contribute. Let me translate what you said:

1. The Mormon donates large amount of $$$ to Wikimedia and we certainly are not going to allow an editor to actually write something that may stop them from paying for Mr. Wales trips to the massage parlour in Russia. Esspecially not when we are in the middle of a fund drive and are not making the $$$.

2. We are certainly going to allow them to only post materials 'approved' by the Church and we will threaten anyone else. i.e. look at this edit summary. 02:20, 26 December 2011‎ Fat&Happy (talk | contribs)‎ (116,847 bytes) (again rv POV-pushing addition; undue weight for individual actions not sanctioned by subject of article) (undo)

3. I have not posted anything that is not verifiable and accurate.

4. If you and I were talking face to face, I doubt you would resort to threats, and I know you would not so so brave. I have read the sites policies and what you have posted here is a 'legal threat'. I don't think you are permitted to do that.

5. I think you should apologize. I have done nothing other than state my views -- although they are not your views or the views of the majority.

6. And desecrating the shrine of another religion is a BAD AS IT GETS. I have lived among these Mormons -- and they would KILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY if you got in their way -- AND THEY HAVE BEFORE -- Mountain Meadows massacre. Reporting what they really do and providing accurate information is what this project is about. Don't be scammed by their whining claims there are a religion -- they are not -- they are a political force as dangerous as the Taliban. And they wear that sheeps clothing really good but they just cant hide their 24 inch fangs.