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== Precious anniversary ==
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Where are you? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:50, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:+1, take care of yourself out there RV. [[User:Nolelover|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nole</span>]] ''([[User talk:Nolelover|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Nolelover|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>]])'' 03:29, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for the messages Nolelover and Gerda Arendt! Long time no see! Things are going well for me. Just a bit busy for Wiki. I've considered returning to correct the abysmal state of a lack of articles for [[National Pro Fastpitch]] and their players. I need to take a look at the notability guidelines for professional fastpitch players though. These girls are at the top level of their sport, so if they're not all eligible for articles based on playing for an NPF team, I don't know that I'll take the time to figure out who is notable and who isn't.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 00:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Always good to have a pet project. Let me know if you ever do! I'd be happy to have a reason to read more about fastpitch. [[User:Nolelover|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nole</span>]] ''([[User talk:Nolelover|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Nolelover|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>]])'' 23:59, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


==[[:Category:Freedmen]] has been nominated for discussion==
== [[Windom, Minnesota]] ==


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Hey Ryan, here are my recommendations for the page, by section:


*Lede: The lede needs to be expanded on a little. Think of it as a blurb of information about what the entire article is about. Typically, if it is in the article itself, it doesn't need to be sourced in the lede.


== Precious anniversary 8 ==
*History: ''LOTS'' more needed. I would check with the town's historical society. They will be able to help with finding links for the information or even books. Books are excellent sources that most Wikipedians forget can be used. Most think it is just weblinks and no more, but books are big time sources.
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*Geography and Climate: I would make "Climate" a section section of "Geography", other than that, I don't see any need for improvments here.
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*Demographics: Make sure you have updated 2010 information. Alot of the information from the 2010 census is now out, just took 'em awhile. I would also put in some information on the ancestry of the people of Windom in this section, but not as a sub-section. You can see how I did it at [[Stephens City, Virginia#Demographics]].
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*Politics: I would rename this section "Government" and expand on it starting with the people on the city council (or whatever your town calls it), the mayor, fire and police chiefs, then post about the state officials and then folks in DC that represent Windom in the House and Senate.
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*Transportation: I would expand on this section, but if you find there isn't enough information, you can always add a sentence or two within the "History" section about notable events.
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*Economy: Check the Census Bureau website as they will have updated stats and figures on the economy and workforce of Windom.
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*Media: I see no room for improvment on this section...and I'm not just saying that cause I made it. :)
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*Education: I would bring the Middle and High Schools back into the main section (no need for a sub-section). Use the county school system website for sources.
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*Entertainment: I would rename this "Culture" (per [[WP:USCITY]]) and expand on it. I put the parks, sights, neat things to see in this section. The Drive-In just south of Stephens City was put in the "Culture" section.
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*Notable Natives: I would rename this section "Notable Residents" and expand, just slightly, on who the people are. I gave them a sentence, plus a reference.
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*External Links: Good amount of external links, not too many.
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OK, now, here is what I think you should add to the page:
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*Pictures: You have ''never'' have too many, but don't expect them all to be on the page. Try to take a slew of pictures of a nice, cloudless, Sunny day. July days are great for pictures, not great for people, but no clouds and sunny skies make from great pictures with no need for flash.
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*References: You can ''never'' have too many, and you will be expected to use them all in some places. Google Books, just regular ol' books, newspaper websites, just plain ol' newspapers, and government sites are all sources that can be used and are sometimes forgotten.
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*Religion: This is a great section because in some towns the churches have a bigger history than the town...and it is room to create another article and get a DYK in the process. You can see how I did it at [[Stephens City, Virginia#Religion]]. Don't forget to include ''all'' religions in this section from Christianity, to Judaism and beyond.
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*Infobox: Try and fill everything on the infobox, go nuts. This is the first place a reader's eyes go to, especially if they just need quick information.
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Good sources to use are the [[Stephens City, Virginia]] page and [[WP:USCITY]] as "templates" for how things should look, [http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Checklinks Checklinks] for keeping an eye on outdated or dead links, and [[User:Wehwalt]]. Wehwalt is an expert at creating a good-looking article. He has a ''ton'' of GA and FA articles under his belt. You can, of course, always ask me on my talk page. If I don't respond right away, I'm probably asleep (I'm a night owl, up at night, sleep all day). - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 07:13, 14 July 2012 (UTC)</small>
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:Wow, Thanks so much for all of this! I didn't even know about [[WP:USCITY]]. This is great! I've been meaning to get to my county's historical society all summer, except it is open from 9-4 and I work 8-5.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 16:24, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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::Glad I could help. :) Might be time to fake a "cold" and take a trip down to the historical society...or just ask for the day off. :) Some places will let folks come in after hours or on the weekend by appointment if you call and ask. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 18:30, 14 July 2012 (UTC)</small>
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:::I already talked to the society. It's pretty bare, they've got a small library and a bunch of microfiche. I'll be done working in late August and then I'll have a week or so to make some copies before I go to school. I asked them about letting me scan images for free rather than making copies but they said no.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 18:51, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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::::Googled the historical society website and found [http://reflections.mndigital.org/cdm/landingpage/collection/cotton this website] from the Minnesota Digital Library. You can view the information the historical society has via that site it appears. I am guessing you checked the [http://www.museumsofmn.com/cottonwood-county-historical-society.html Cottonwood County Historical Society], they seem to have a large building from the picture. Also, try any number of [http://www.google.com/#q=History+of+Windom%2C+Minnesota&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ei=f8MBULWNJoG29QTuscS3CA&ved=0CEkQ_AUoAA&prmdo=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=2bb13ff91a31e3ba&biw=1024&bih=616 these Google Books]. They should help with the history of the town on different levels. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 19:08, 14 July 2012 (UTC)</small>
:::::Also, check to see if Minnesota has a state library. In Virginia, it is called simply [http://www.lva.virginia.gov/ "The Library of Virginia"] and is kinda like the Library of Congress, but just for Virginia. They have a ton of historical information, newspapers from all around the state, ''tons'' of books, all kinds of stuff. Each state has their own library like this (or at least I think they do), so give that a look-see as well.


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:::::Your town's public library should have an archives department, they will have ''tons'' of historical information as well in the form of newspapers, books, and the like. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 19:12, 14 July 2013 (UTC)</small>
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Thanks for your help with [[Bruce Goodwin]].. would you consider creating other pages that deal with Ohio politicians? There are only a few that need created or recreated who are currently in office.
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All of those who are redlinked are in need of creation in these two templates. Thanks.
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:The ones in those templates are the current ones? If so I can do it, I'm currently working on Minnesota historical ones. I'll probably spread my time between the two. The Ohio information isn't as full as I would like so it doesn't make my job super easy so I'll probably make them as stubs.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 21:51, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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::FYI, you need to be very careful about relying on input for these articles since the IP is almost certainly a recurrence of a persistent [[Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/OSUHEY|banned user]] with an extensive history of copyvios among other problems. [[User:VernoWhitney|VernoWhitney]] ([[User talk:VernoWhitney|talk]]) 22:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
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:::Hmm, a checkuser might be necessary. In any case, every one of these subjects is notable and deserve at least a stub. Articles are more likely to be improved if they exist. (Wow that was a dumb way of wording it, but I hope you get my point). I suppose the difficulty will come in protecting the articles after they are created.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 22:12, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
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::::Wow, just checked the block log. This certainly does appear to be the same person. In fact, edits by this user began 10 days after the unblock.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 22:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
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:::Since this was brought up, please note that my edits would not be in violation of [[Wikipedia:Banning policy#Edits by and on behalf of banned editors]] since I can confirm that any articles I create will be verifiable and I have an independent reason to do so (as is evidenced by the articles I have already created on various state politicians).&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 22:20, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
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::::I wasn't intending to imply that your creation of the articles would be inappropriate by any means. I just wanted to make sure you knew who was encouraging you to do it, and that any "help" they offer is more trouble than it's worth. [[User:VernoWhitney|VernoWhitney]] ([[User talk:VernoWhitney|talk]]) 17:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::I know, but since the situation arose I thought I'd clear it up.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 13:52, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


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== Windom ==
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Hey Ryan, how are things going on the Windom page? Need any help with things? - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 06:58, 1 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
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:Hey Neutralhomer! I'm still intending to work on improvements; however, I'm caught up in some other issues right now. This will probably be a long term project for me. Feel free to assist in any way you like.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 14:09, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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::Sorry for the slow reply, I actually forgot I posted here. :) Anywho...let me know where you need the most help and I will be glad to help. I don't want to "take over" since it is your project. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 11:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
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:::I'll try to take a look at it sometime this week and see where I could use some help. If you see this note, and you care to update the population statistics in the body of the article that would be great. On another note, have you seen the demographics age distribution table? Are you interested in me making one for the Stephens City, Virginia page? - {{unsigned|Ryan Vesey}}
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::::Let me ask someone about the age distribution table for the Stephens City article. I think it would be a good addition, but I worry it being perceived as decoration. I will work on the population stats sometime overnight or tomorrow. Need to gather up all the US Census Bureau stats. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 04:57, 7 August 2012 (UTC)</small>


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*Hey Ryan, sleep happened twice today (catching up on all the sleep I have missed lately), I took a look at the information for Windom and there isn't any. For whatever reason, the 2012 Demographic stats haven't been released for Windom. They do release things on a state-by-state basis (they just got around to Virginia) so it might be a little longer before they release things for Minnesota. Sorry. :( - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 07:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
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Yeah brother! I am from Urdu Wikipedia. --[[User:Muhammad Shuaib Nadwi|Muhammad Shuaib Nadwi]] ([[User talk:Muhammad Shuaib Nadwi|talk]]) 18:36, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
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:Hello and thank you for your incredibly fast reply! [[:File:Birha Ki Raat (1950) - Hindi film poster.jpg]] is in use on Urdu Wikipedia, but it has been determined that it was not appropriate for commons. I was hoping somebody could upload that locally before it get's deleted on Commons. Is fair use allowed on urdu Wikipedia? In addition, the image is PD in india but not the US. Would that qualify it even if urdu Wikipedia doesn't allow fair use?&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:39, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
:: Fair use isnt allowed on Urdu Wikipedia, and would not qualify it in abovementioned state. --[[User:Muhammad Shuaib Nadwi|Muhammad Shuaib Nadwi]] ([[User talk:Muhammad Shuaib Nadwi|talk]]) 18:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Well that's sad. It's a good poster, but I suppose the law is the law.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::true. but dont be sad. For sure anyone will upload again after it get's deleted. --[[User:Muhammad Shuaib Nadwi|Muhammad Shuaib]] ([[User talk:Muhammad Shuaib Nadwi|talk]]) 19:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


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Hi Ryan. This is a long-shot, but do you remember the circumstances around [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obsolete_models_of_DNA_structure&oldid=493833011 the DNA helix -> Non-helical DNA structure pagemove]? I'm looking at the page (now called [[Obsolete models of DNA structure]]) as part of looking at fringe & pseudoscience more broadly. Happy for you to email if not appropriate to comment on-wiki!
Sorry about that, and thanks for the post. As a hard rule I never delete stuff off of my talk--not even the personal attacks--I just love being the center of attention too much!!!!! Hahahaha!!!! But I can't allow my talk to be used as a weapon against other editors. And then you [[WP:DONTFEED|fed him]]. But thanks. &ndash; [[user:Lionelt|Lionel]] <sup>([[user talk:Lionelt|talk]])</sup> 05:21, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
:Good point. The liberal bias on this encyclopedia is so strong, it's hard not to point it out every chance I get. Editors like to pretend that there is a liberal bias because the entire world is liberal and there's an island of 50 conservatives. In reality, it's a form of systemic bias that the majority of editors feel no need to correct. A large percentage of our editors went to a university and it is blatantly obvious that college has a liberalizing effect. Heck, I've only been through one year and I'm already more moderate than I was going in. I commend you for your work to counteract that bias. On another note, I noticed you were working on [[User:Lionelt/Speeches of Ronald Reagan]]. A)It is awesome that you thought to include the videos. B)There can and probably should be an article just on Ronald Reagan's oratorical style. Have you got your eye on a featured topic?&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 05:34, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
::Gee, I was [[User_talk:Belchfire#Battleground_behavior|just informed]] that pointing out bias (without mentioning any specific user, mind you) is "against policy," and that I risk being blocked for such candor. So how the hell do you rate? Or is it just ''that'' obvious I'm only a high school puke? Maybe that's it. Yeah. [[User:Belchfire|'''<tt><span style="color:black">Belch</span><span style="color:red">fire</span></tt>''']]-[[User_talk:Belchfire|<span style="color:black"><small>'''TALK'''</small></span>]] 09:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
:::<small>ALERT: more Wikipedia secrets about to be exposed by Lionelt--this is not plotting</small><br> My dear Belch, when you've racked 20,000 edits, a bunch of DYKs, GAs and bronze thingees, and a wall full of barnstars--you have enough wikifriends to !vote you out of anything. Hahahah! When you're a newbie with a couple thousand edits you're basically raw meat for biting and on whom new admins can try out their newly activated block button. My advice: hook up with a powerful admin who will "mentor" you, What is mentoring? Mentoring is when you get into trouble and your admin-mentor storms onto ANI and starts blocking whoever has it out for you. And you know what, now that Jenova has "graduated" I think WormThatTurned may have an opening. Not that Worm is a powerful admin, but he'll do until my RFA gets going. What is graduation? You don't know anything more than when you started mentoring except for one important thing: you know enough to [[WP:GAME|avoid getting blocked]]. &ndash; [[user:Lionelt|Lionel]] <sup>([[user talk:Lionelt|talk]])</sup> 12:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)<br><small>You can now return to your regularly scheduled XXX broadcast</small>
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Well, "against policy" is pretty vague. Fortunately, I remember you being warned specifically against violating [[WP:NOTFACTIONS]]. That's much more concrete, therefore easier to understand and follow. Hope that helps! [[User:Still-24-45-42-125|Still-24-45-42-125]] ([[User talk:Still-24-45-42-125|talk]]) 12:10, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
:Regarding the "speechography", when I realized that all of the Reagan Library holdings were in the PD a lightbulb went off. And I just started uploading videos, haha. For media it really is the motherlode. Actually, I have my eye on a WP:FOUR ;-) &ndash; [[user:Lionelt|Lionel]] <sup>([[user talk:Lionelt|talk]])</sup> 06:34, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
::That is so awesome! Do we have video for the Tear Down This Wall speech or just the audio? In addition, for there to be a featured topic, there is no requirement that all of the articles be featured. I'll work on gathering up all of the Reagan articles that are GA FA or (soon to be) FL.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 07:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:::You're starting to creep me out. I was just on Miller Center trying to download that very video. It's 26 min so it might just make the 100M commons limit. But the site isn't working. I found it on youtube but it has the Reagan Library watermark.
:::You see when I first started on the "speechography" I felt the audio was sufficient, especially since it is a Featured Sound, so I never uploaded the video.
:::Fastforward... The speechography is just about ready for article space--and a nom for DYK. But which video to use for the dyk? The Challenger is a top 10 speech, ''but so is Berlin Wall!'' So that's why I've decided to get the video and replace the audio.
:::Another consideration: both Challenger and Berlin Wall IMO are FPCs. It would be a coup to have a FP in a dyk nom!
:::Count me in for the FTopic.&ndash; [[user:Lionelt|Lionel]] <sup>([[user talk:Lionelt|talk]])</sup> 08:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


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== POV ==
:I'm a bit late on this, but I can't remember too much, beyond the fact that it says "per IRC request". It seems likely that someone was requesting the page be moved and based on the content of the article, explaining that the topic was '''Non-helical DNA structure''', I must have felt like that was a reasonable request vs. calling the article DNA helix.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 22:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)


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When all of our sources speak of Chik-fil-a supporting "anti-gay causes", it would be POV to change it to "conservative". In short, you've proven my point by showing that what you consider neutrality is actually conservative bias. [[User:Still-24-45-42-125|Still-24-45-42-125]] ([[User talk:Still-24-45-42-125|talk]]) 05:30, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
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:Thanks, but I'm quite familiar with [[WP:NPOV]]. It doesn't say we should use euphemisms or always accept the terminology preferred by the speaker. So, for example, if Stormfront wants to characterize itself as a charity that happens to focus on white people, it's not our job to cater to their dishonesty. If Chick-fil-a considers itself "conservative", we should mention that. But when neutral secondary sources call it "anti-gay", we should, too. [[User:Still-24-45-42-125|Still-24-45-42-125]] ([[User talk:Still-24-45-42-125|talk]]) 06:57, 4 August 2012 (UTC)


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== In search of the Loch Ness Monster ==


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Just kidding! I needed a headline to get your attention. Actually, I'm searching for the elusive "liberal bias". I've noticed that you discuss it quite a bit, so I'm assuming you know more about it than I do. Would it be too much to ask for several examples so I can see it for myself? Thanks. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 10:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
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:I mention it because I see it, not because I care to argue about it or even win any arguments about it so I won't be wasting my time to find examples for you, sorry.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 07:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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::If you are truly interested, you might be interested in looking at the results of [https://www.google.com/search?q=liberal+bias+on+Wikipedia&sugexp=chrome,mod=9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 this google search]. I will note that a majority of sources that reference a liberal bias are conservative so I did a similar search for [https://www.google.com/search?q=conservative+bias+of+Wikipedia&sugexp=chrome,mod=9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 conservative bias of Wikipedia]. Take what you want from the results of those searches, we are certainly free to have differing views on the issue.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 07:39, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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Ryan, I was wondering how long you plan to wait before your next RfA? I don't know if you are planning to nominate yourself or if you'd prefer for someone else to do it. I'd be willing to nominate (or co-nominate) you, although there are probably others who could write a better nomination who'd also be willing. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|Automatic]]''[[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout#top|Strikeout]]'' 17:23, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
:Ryan is a fantastic editor and would make an incredible admin, but I think we should work on my RFA first. There are ''certain editors'' who need to be blocked on a regular basis and AN3 and ANI are just too unpredictable. I recall a recent 4RR incident where the violator got 24 hours, when they should've received 6 mos. A lot of people are talking about "Why Wikipedia is a failure" and with my election as admin "Wikipedia will not be a failure!" {{quotation|Vote for Lionelt's [[WP:Lionelt's RFA|RFA]] and '''''Wikipedia will not be a failure'''''<br><small>Lionelt approved this message</small>}}
:&ndash; [[user:Lionelt|Lionel]] <sup>([[user talk:Lionelt|talk]])</sup> 21:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
::Lionelt, you aren't setting the bar high enough. Do I see a [[Wikipedia:Requests for founder rights/Lionelt]] in the near future?&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 07:33, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:As of this moment I can tell you that my next RfA is completely [[To be announced|TBD]]. I've been spending too much time in the meta areas and want to focus on the aspect of the Wiki that is more enjoyable and less drama filled.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 07:33, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks for the reply. I'm curious as to your opinion on how soon you think I might be ready for an RfA of my own? [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|Automatic]]''[[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout#top|Strikeout]]'' 19:42, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I wouldn't advise one before next April. You've racked up a high edit count, but most editors, including myself, are of the opinion that at least a year is usually needed to gain the necessary experience. You haven't been very active in admin areas (at least that I have seen). I've noticed that you have been active in AfD and I suggest that you continue to do so. Later, if you feel that you understand the CSD criteria, you could set up a CSD log with Twinkle and start tagging those.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 20:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Ok, thanks for the input. In all honesty, I don't even know what CSD is. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|Automatic]]''[[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout#top|Strikeout]]'' 20:05, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::See [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion]]. You might want to look over [[User:Ryan Vesey/Adopt/Deletion]] for more information on deletion.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 20:09, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::Ok, thanks. I'll try to look into that stuff. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|Automatic]]''[[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout#top|Strikeout]]'' 20:11, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


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Hi Ryan. On discussion and with his approval, I redrafted Brad's very good faith essay at [[Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors]] to lower the 'adult' tone just slightly and to improve its general format. I did not however fundamentally change the content. As a teacher and teacher trainer of some 30 years experience however, I would probably have written something quite different. Rather than just stabbing at the existing one with minor edits, perhaps a couple of editors experienced in these matters could get together and draft something new. I would certainly participate. --[[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 05:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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:Thanks Kudpung. I'm not interested in personally creating a new page, but I would certainly support any effort that was made to do so. I was looking for something a bit more simple that focuses just on the personal information issue and informs young editors without scaring them. Perhaps a good first step would be to list some types of personal information that a young user should be wary about editing. The article doesn't mention not displaying your age.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 07:43, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Ten years ago, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious#{{BASEPAGENAME}}|you]] were found precious. That's what you are, always. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 05:44, 7 July 2022 (UTC)


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* '''Saturday, July 16''' - 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Minnesota/Willmar/West-Central Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon|West-Central Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon]]<br />
Mind if I ask a bonehead question? What's "GA"? And also, this one caught my eye: [[HMS Doterel (1880)]] But it looks like a dandy article already. Could you describe for me briefly what the objectives are? Or perhaps point me towards whatever quality standard is being sought? [[User:Belchfire|'''<tt><span style="color:black">Belch</span><span style="color:red">fire</span></tt>''']]-[[User_talk:Belchfire|<span style="color:black"><small>'''TALK'''</small></span>]] 07:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Location: Kandiyohi County Museum, Kandiyohi County Historical Society, 610 Hwy 71 Service Rd, Willmar, MN
:A GA is [[Wikipedia:WikiSpeak|WikiSpeak]] for [[Wikipedia:Good articles]]. The Good article criteria are [[Wikipedia:Good article criteria|here]]. In the case of HMS Doterel, I nominated it last summer, but by the time a reviewer got started, I was on my way to college. The issues are listed on the talk page. Particularly in the sections [[Talk:HMS Doterel (1880)#Peer review|peer review]] and [[Talk:HMS Doterel (1880)#GA Review|GA review]]. I believe a good starting point for us would be to create a new section that lists the unresolved problems (primarily the lead section and the quality of a few sources, in addition there are some areas that can use expansion). It shouldn't take long for the article to be ready for a GA review again soon. The process that led me to that article is fairly interesting. I actually found [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Bridges_(Anglican_missionary)&oldid=431189192 this] and decided to improve it. There, I learned that a ship exploded and decided to write an article on the ship. Then I found out that the explosion was caused by xerotine siccative so I've been writing an article on that for a while. You will probably have similar situations arise, and I feel it is one of the best ways to edit. You dive deeper and learn more about this topic that you never would have heard of outside of editing Wikipedia.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 07:17, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
* '''Saturday, July 23''' - 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Minnesota/Mankato/South-Central Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon|South-Central Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon]]<br />
::Thanks, I'll dig into this over the next few days, as time allows. And actually, that sort of thing already has happened. Not long ago, my hometown newspaper printed [http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/07/19/2220690/centennial-of-south-sound-speedway.html| this story], about a long-forgotten race track. As it happens, I'm a racing fan, so I went looking for more info. To my dismay, I found no article about the track on Wikipedia, [[Tacoma Speedway|so I decided to fix that]]. And then, [[Beverly Hills Speedway|one thing]] led to [[Board track racing|another]]... and now I'm turning into a bit of a historian specializing in this narrow topic of wooden board tracks. But it's awfully easy to get sidetracked in politics. [[User:Belchfire|'''<tt><span style="color:black">Belch</span><span style="color:red">fire</span></tt>''']]-[[User_talk:Belchfire|<span style="color:black"><small>'''TALK'''</small></span>]] 08:03, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Location: Blue Earth County History Center and Museum, Blue Earth County Historical Society, 424 Warren St, Mankato, MN
* '''Saturday, August 6''' - 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Minnesota/Little Falls/Central Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon|Central Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon]]<br />
Location: Weyerhaeuser Museum, Morrison County Historical Society, 2151 Lindbergh Dr. S, Little Falls, MN
* '''Saturday, August 20''' - 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Minnesota/Shevlin/Northwest Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon|Northwest Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon]]<br />
Location: Clearwater County History Center, Clearwater County Historical Society, 264 1st Street, Shevlin, MN
* '''Sunday, August 21''' - 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Minnesota/Chisholm/Northland Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon|Northland/Northeast Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon]]<br />
Location: Minnesota Discovery Center, 1005 Discovery Drive, Chisholm, MN
* '''Saturday, October 8''' - 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Minnesota/Worthington/Southwest Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon|Southwest Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon]]<br />
Location: Nobles County Historical Museum, Nobles County Historical Society, 225 9th St, Worthington, MN
* '''Saturday, October 29''' - 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Minnesota/Winona/Southeast Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon|Southeast Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon]]<br />
Location: Winona County History Center, Winona County Historical Society, 160 Johnson St, Winona, MN
* '''Saturday, November 12''' - 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Minnesota/Fergus Falls/Park Region Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon|Park Region Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon]]<br />
Location: Otter Tail County Historical Museum, Otter Tail County Historical Society, 1110 W Lincoln Avenue, Fergus Falls, Minnesota, MN


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:Thanks for the brownie, and no problem! I hope you enjoy your editing career. Here's another tip, I assume you came here to edit articles. Be careful about moving into some of the meta areas of Wikipedia. You'll get trapped and then forget about the fun part (editing articles of course). Good luck at college as well!&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 07:17, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
::Holy crap. Have I been on wiki too long? That brownie looks real to me! Same for the iced tea a few section above.&ndash; [[user:Lionelt|Lionel]] <sup>([[user talk:Lionelt|talk]])</sup> 07:43, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


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== Apology ==


I'm sorry if I have removed the comments on [[User talk:Dennis Brown]]'s talk page unintentionally, but I felt that it was [[WP:WIKIHOUND|wikihounding]] and I did it out of [[WP:AGF|good faith]]. I promise that I won't do it again. [[Darth]] [[User:Sjones23|Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 21:54, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:No problem, I only reviewed the removed section enough to realize it wasn't worthy of removal. Dennis can make his own decision on Wikihounding or otherwise.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 21:57, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
::All right. I am still waiting for Dennis or Berean Hunter to respond patiently to the situation regarding HanzoHattori/Niemti's behavior, and as I do not want to get into a fight with this user, I am concerned about these apparently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dennis_Brown&diff=505977710&oldid=505974411 abusive comments]. Would it be all right if I would just ignore him until the administrators respond to this situation? [[Darth]] [[User:Sjones23|Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 22:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:::That would be great. It is oftentimes better to ignore conflict until a neutral party can weigh in.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 23:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, then. I will have to wait until they come up with a solution. Based on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dennis_Brown&diff=505986415&oldid=505977710 this post], I have decided not to edit Dennis Brown's talk page for a day and I have finally disengaged with Niemti, because I am not sure much can be done with his behavior even if I did try to give him a gentle nudge regarding it. Until then, I think Niemti will most likely be blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet of the banned user {{vandal|HanzoHattori}}, based on this user's history and [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HanzoHattori/Archive#26 July 2012|this most recent SPI investigation]], as well as [[WP:ROPE]]. As such, I will take no further active role with him. By the way, thank you for your comments. I appreciate them very much. Best wishes, [[Darth]] [[User:Sjones23|Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 02:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::Hmm, it does appear like he might have used up his rope. I guess we'll see what Bearean has to say.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:05, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::Berean has commented on the situation [[User talk:Berean Hunter#Moving forward|here]] and I have provided additional evidence on the situation there. [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 18:18, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::Seeing that the situation has been finally resolved, I agree with your concern that avoiding Niemti is the best option, as I want to avoid any unnecessary conflict with the user in question any further and I respect the decision to give Niemti a second chance at editing. Thanks for your helpful advice, Ryan. I appreciate it very much. Best wishes, [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 23:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


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You created this page and [[User talk:Isaacl|Editor:Isaacl]] and I have been collaborating on it. Check it out. ```[[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 06:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
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:I'll be sure to check it out. I've had it in my watchlist but hadn't been following it closely.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
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== RFC ==


You do realize blocking YRC won't solve anything, but actaully make the situation worse because another admin can and will just unblock him? He was well on his way to receivng a block a week or so ago by the community but he got blocked by an admin for something else which killed the discussion. Let the process take place and a determination to be made by either Arbcom or the community or else this process will have to be repeated again. [[User:Fasttimes68|Fasttimes68]] ([[User talk:Fasttimes68|talk]]) 18:30, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
:Is there a requirement that YRC be allowed to attack editors in the RFC for it to continue? (Legitimate question, I'm not being facetious)&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


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*It was a miss-click. I informed him [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AYoureallycan&diff=506101960&oldid=506040966 here].&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:45, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
**Good. Although it would have been fairly easy to predict that the intended recipient of the name calling would want it retained. I predicted that this RFC won't proceed well. There have been three related undo wars already, before the RFC even started. Don't get sucked into the maelstrom. Avoid the use of the undo and reversion tools. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 19:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
***Thanks for your advice, I had no intention of continuing to undo it had I been reverted. I will admit that I don't like that it was reinstated.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 19:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


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What are your concerns about [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2.27.250.34&oldid=506006073 this edit] ? [[User:Mlpearc|<font color="#800020">'''Mlpearc'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mlpearc|<font color="#CFB53B">'''powwow'''</font>]])</small> 19:52, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
:No concerns, that edit led me to indent my oppose. I'll go clarify.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 19:54, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


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::OK, please note I have to go out of town for a few hours, I will have my smartphone (which I am learning is a bear to edit with) and I will try to be as prompt as possible on any responses. [[User:Mlpearc|<font color="#800020">'''Mlpearc'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mlpearc|<font color="#CFB53B">'''powwow'''</font>]])</small> 20:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
:::No concerns at all with your promptness. My primary hope is that in the future you will weigh concerns with the validity of unsourced material before removing it. I wouldn't have a concern if material was removed that said "The Monkees will be the President's personal band". You should have a valid reason to doubt the accuracy of the statement. The statement that was removed was written in a way that left me with the assumption that it was most likely factually accurate. I took a similar approach to [[Action Theater]] (relevant discussion at [[User talk:Callanecc/Archives/2#DUDE WTF]]).&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 20:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


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Hi Ryan! I asked the author your question [[User talk:Van Aldenhaag#You.27re welcome.21|here]] on their talk page. Please review as I might have misunderstood you. Thank you! [[User:Heatherawalls|heather walls]] ([[User talk:Heatherawalls|talk]]) 01:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
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:Yep, depending on what they are, we might need to send them to someone with photoshop. Wikipedia and commons don't allow watermarks.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 01:12, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
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::Are you willing to comment on that with them? [[User:Heatherawalls|heather walls]] ([[User talk:Heatherawalls|talk]]) 04:46, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
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:::Hey Heather, I'm trying to do a bit more research per " Exceptions may be made for historic images when the credit forms an integral part of the composition". I think commons will be a better place to ask this question for now.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 13:25, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


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Hey Ryan, you said that "something in [my] talk page makes it very difficult to click the talkback link", can you give me some more information on what you ran into so I can get it taken care of? - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 09:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
:Just lighting this up. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 18:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
:{{ec}}I'm assuming you have Twinkle installed. When I hover over the twinkle icon on your talk page, I can easily scroll over ARV warn and welcome. Once I scroll below that, the dropdown menu closes. It appears to have something to do with the source of your page. You noticed how the talkback message ended up being messed up as well. The Twinkle issue appears to be caused by [[User:Neutralhomer/TopMenu]]. I'm not sure about the other issue.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:57, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
::It's interesting that we edit conflicted on this. I missed your message earlier due to the signpost message and saw it at the same time that you notified me.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
:::OK, I will have Jack (aka: Br'er Rabbit) take a look and see what the problem is. Weird how things work out like that. :) I have done that a couple times myself. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 19:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
::::Oh and what kind of browser are you using? - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 19:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
:::::Chrome.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 19:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::I think the problem is the <code>z-index: 100;</code> in the CSS of [[User:Neutralhomer/TopMenu]]; I'm not entirely sure what purpose it serves by there, but it's making the top menu appear above the user actions and twinkle menus. Removing it should fix it. [[User:Writ Keeper|Writ Keeper]] [[User Talk: Writ Keeper|&#9863;]][[Special:Contributions/Writ_Keeper|&#9812;]] 19:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::::@Ryan: Give it another shot, post a test TB notice. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 04:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
:::::::@Writ: I borrowed the code from someone else (no idea who after all this time) and never messed with it. So it was in the original code. :) No idea what half of that stuff does. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 04:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)</small>


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== On [[Lynfect's Law]] ==


'''[https://www3.mnhs.org/wiki-uff-da-registration Registration is required]''' to be included for lunch.
Hey, Ryan, I replied to your post on the talk page. Do you really think this guy is doing anything but trolling? I mean, come on now. Looking at the content of the article (especially in the last section) and the way he wrote the objection leaves no doubt in my mind. [[User:Writ Keeper|Writ Keeper]] [[User Talk: Writ Keeper|&#9863;]][[Special:Contributions/Writ_Keeper|&#9812;]] 18:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
:I'm not sure, but when I saw the article, [[Godwin's Law]] immediately popped into my mind. I haven't done external searching, but if Lynfect's law was in fact a reasonable search term, it should redirect to Godwin's. He gave a reference to views without a source. Your google search sends me back into the obvious hoax column though. Check Worm's talk page in a couple of minutes, or watchlist it.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
::No worries. I actually think he used the Godwin's Law article as a template, copying the lede and find-replacing "Godwin's" with "Lynfect's"; it's definitely based on it at some level. And yeah, I've been stapling Worm's talk page for a few months now. :) [[User:Writ Keeper|Writ Keeper]] [[User Talk: Writ Keeper|&#9863;]][[Special:Contributions/Writ_Keeper|&#9812;]] 18:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


'''Event 1 @ Morris, MN'''
== Talkback ==
* '''Date & time:''' Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 11 am to 4 pm [[Central Daylight Time|CDT]]
* '''Location:''' West Central Minnesota Historical Center, McGinnis Room, Briggs Library, University of Minnesota-Morris, [[Morris, Minnesota]]


'''Event 2 @ Chisholm, MN'''
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* '''Date & time:''' Thursday, November 14, 2024, 11 am to 4 pm [[Central Daylight Time|CDT]]
== .wav file ==
* '''Location:''' MN Discovery Center, 1005 Discovery Drive, [[Chisholm, Minnesota]]


'''Event 3 @ Mankato, MN'''
Thank you Ryan Vesey for the template. Being so new at this sometimes I get lost in the Wikipedia itself along with the lingo. Glad there is a Tea House to come to. I learn sometimes by just reading some of the articles. [[User:Cmurdock1955|Cmurdock1955]] ([[User talk:Cmurdock1955|talk]]) 16:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


* '''Date & time:''' Wednesday, November 20, 2024, 11 am to 4 pm [[Central Daylight Time|CDT]]
== Wannabe-admin ==
* '''Location:''' Room 2057, 601 Maywood Ave, Memorial Library, Minnesota State University, [[Mankato, Minnesota]]
Facilitator: [[User:Myotus|Myotus]] | Joe Hoover


These workshops are put on by the [[Minnesota Historical Society]] as part of their commitment to the Minnesota local history community and are led by [https://www.mnhs.org/preservation/localhistory Local History Services].
I know how badly you want to be an admin. The reason you won't be an admin any time soon is precisely because of that reason: you keep trolling, like you did on my talkpage and on Reapers talkpage. Our admins need to be a bit more mature (even though we have plenty of clueless but mature admins). [[User:Arcandam|Arcandam]] ([[User talk:Arcandam|talk]]) 03:22, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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:I'll admit that I took the bait here, but I'm not going to be taking maturity lessons from you.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 03:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
::[[User:Myotus|Myotus]] ([[User talk:Myotus|talk]]) 21:24, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
::Arcandam, it it patently obvious that Ryan does wishes to disengage from this. Prompting pokes like "Wannabe-admin", is unwarranted and I '''highly suggest''' you disengage from any further comments such as this. [[User:Calmer Waters|<span style="color:black">'''''Calmer'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Calmer Waters|<span style="color:Blue">'''''Waters'''''</span>]] 03:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Your name is kinda weird for someone who doesn't read the context before commenting on a dispute. [[User:Arcandam|Arcandam]] ([[User talk:Arcandam|talk]]) 03:39, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


== November 2024 Minnesota User Group Meeting ==
{{{tps}}<small>(or troll)</small> Arcandam, your comment to Ryan is [[ad hominem]]. I don't see any evidence of trolling. Ryan's RfA was a very close call and he will almost certainly pass next time. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 04:09, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

:That's too bad, because he's one of those people who's very biased but imagines himself to be neutral. [[User:Still-24-45-42-125|Still-24-45-42-125]] ([[User talk:Still-24-45-42-125|talk]]) 04:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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:If I am onwiki and I notice yet another RfA I will instruct my cabal what to do. [[User:Arcandam|Arcandam]] ([[User talk:Arcandam|talk]]) 05:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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::(e.c) I've read the context, I understand that you don't agree with rollback being removed. The whale maybe an attempt to address your view with some humor, maybe not. IDK. It's not like you called him an asshole along with it. This was in regards to escalating to this point. I would have done the same if it had been Ryan on your page. You are both [[WP:DENY|DENYing]] each other, but continuing on in the same manner. Ryan you have stated your opinions on the matter; and honestly, did you really think the ''The spear that whale award'' was helpful here and not helping to flame up the situation even more? It appears that Arcandam would rather deal with this directly with Reaper Eternal and I believe at this point Reaper is more than able to handle this from here. [[User:Calmer Waters|<span style="color:black">'''''Calmer'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Calmer Waters|<span style="color:Blue">'''''Waters'''''</span>]] 04:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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:::I made the spear the whale award before I realized that this would escalate. At that point, my involvement was limited to noticing the whale and my initial quote of the rollback guideline. The award was an attempt at humor and I initially considered the whale to be the same.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 04:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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::::Ah yeah, sounds very likely. You are not welcome on my talkpage. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AArcandam&diff=506496480&oldid=506496419 ] And if you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Reaper_Eternal&diff=prev&oldid=506496747 keep trolling] you may be blocked. [[User:Arcandam|Arcandam]] ([[User talk:Arcandam|talk]]) 05:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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:::::So some humor and some venting at a certain point started turned from its primary focus on the issue at hand and started turning instead towards some of the editors involved in the discussion. Isn't it time to disengage from this. I had hoped that if any further discussion was warranted, it could be about the merits of the edits again, rather than this. If it would help to slap me for meddling into this, feel free. Just don't call me an asshole while doing it ;-) [[User:Calmer Waters|<span style="color:black">'''''Calmer'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Calmer Waters|<span style="color:Blue">'''''Waters'''''</span>]] 05:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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::::::Nah, you misunderstand, other than OohBunnies and myself (in response to OohBunnies) no one was joking because it is not funny. For example, the whale template is in this case comparable to saying: "you are a fucking clueless asshole". Then Ryan came along and started trolling and being annoying because he didn't understand the situation. [[User:Arcandam|Arcandam]] ([[User talk:Arcandam|talk]]) 05:41, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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:::::::You have a bit of a cheek saying Ryan cannot post on your talk page whilst you rant and rave here, go have a cup of tea and lay down for a bit. [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 05:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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::::::::He can and he has, but he isn't welcome. I prefer Coca Cola. [[User:Arcandam|Arcandam]] ([[User talk:Arcandam|talk]]) 06:06, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Okay its been a while since the Wikipedia Minnesota User Group has meet. Since the last time we meet there has been social upheaval, plague, etc... - no small thing to be sure. There has been some [[Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Minnesota|sad lonely discussions on]] the Minnesota Meetup page on getting together but little action. So here it is. Come and be seen. Talk about the future of the Minnesota User Group and see what nefarious plans we can hatch.
{{od}}...and I perfer Pepsi and the whole lot of you need to chill. Arcandam, go to your corner, Calmer Waters to yours, Ryan to yours. No one is helping matters, especially you Arcandam. {{rpa}} and unless you would like me to find an admin to deal with you, walk away now. Calmer Waters and Ryan, '''stop feeding the trolls'''. This is a slow motion pissing match and it should have stopped and been blanked hours ago. Everyone stay away from everyone else. There. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 06:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
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:You just received a whale template. Now stop inflaming conflicts and stop making personal attacks, go do something useful. [[User:Arcandam|Arcandam]] ([[User talk:Arcandam|talk]]) 07:09, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
'''Date''': {{{date|Sunday, '''November 3''', 2024}}}<br />
::Not sure what a whale has to do with anything, but you are playing a very dangerous game that you will lose. Stop now and walk away or you will be blocked. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 07:16, 9 August 2012 (UTC)</small>
'''Time''': {{{time|1 to 3:30 pm}}} (reminder - Daylight Saving Time ends)<br />
:::Well, you may want to read this page a bit more carefully. When you are done please read [[WP:NPA]]. Thanks in advance, [[User:Arcandam|Arcandam]] ([[User talk:Arcandam|talk]]) 07:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
'''Place''': {{{place|[https://www.wildmindales.com/ Wild Mind Ales]'}}}<br>6031 Pillsbury Ave, Minneapolis, MN<br>
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Where are you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

+1, take care of yourself out there RV. Nole (chat·edits) 03:29, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the messages Nolelover and Gerda Arendt! Long time no see! Things are going well for me. Just a bit busy for Wiki. I've considered returning to correct the abysmal state of a lack of articles for National Pro Fastpitch and their players. I need to take a look at the notability guidelines for professional fastpitch players though. These girls are at the top level of their sport, so if they're not all eligible for articles based on playing for an NPF team, I don't know that I'll take the time to figure out who is notable and who isn't. Ryan Vesey 00:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Always good to have a pet project. Let me know if you ever do! I'd be happy to have a reason to read more about fastpitch. Nole (chat·edits) 23:59, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Ryan. This is a long-shot, but do you remember the circumstances around the DNA helix -> Non-helical DNA structure pagemove? I'm looking at the page (now called Obsolete models of DNA structure) as part of looking at fringe & pseudoscience more broadly. Happy for you to email if not appropriate to comment on-wiki!

T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 06:36, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a bit late on this, but I can't remember too much, beyond the fact that it says "per IRC request". It seems likely that someone was requesting the page be moved and based on the content of the article, explaining that the topic was Non-helical DNA structure, I must have felt like that was a reasonable request vs. calling the article DNA helix. Ryan Vesey 22:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiki Uff Da! Editing the Wikipedia for Absolute Beginners

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Wiki UFF DA! - Editing the Wikipedia for Absolute Beginners
Oh, you know, if it isn't just the most basic workshop ever needed, "Wikipedia Editing for Absolute Beginners" for those who haven't had the pleasure of diving into that simple process quite yet. Bless their hearts, they're just starting out, so we thought, why not put something together? Because, you know, it's not like it's rocket science or anything, but hey, we're always happy to lend a hand where we can. And just a little bit of Minnesota Nice to help along the way. 'Uff da!' you say? Well editing the Wikipedia is not hard at all!

Join us at one of our three FREE workshops in Minnesota, where you can learn how to edit Wikipedia and add Minnesota's local history in a relaxed and supportive setting. Work alongside others and discover how easy editing Wikipedia can be. The workshops aim to enhance the ability of communities in Greater and rural Minnesota to edit Wikipedia and comprehend it's editing culture and guidelines, as well as to expand Wikipedia's coverage of Minnesota's history.

Already good at editing the Wikipedia? You're welcome to come and work on local history Minnesota Wikipedia articles alongside others.
Learn more »

Registration is required to be included for lunch.

Event 1 @ Morris, MN

  • Date & time: Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 11 am to 4 pm CDT
  • Location: West Central Minnesota Historical Center, McGinnis Room, Briggs Library, University of Minnesota-Morris, Morris, Minnesota

Event 2 @ Chisholm, MN

  • Date & time: Thursday, November 14, 2024, 11 am to 4 pm CDT
  • Location: MN Discovery Center, 1005 Discovery Drive, Chisholm, Minnesota

Event 3 @ Mankato, MN

  • Date & time: Wednesday, November 20, 2024, 11 am to 4 pm CDT
  • Location: Room 2057, 601 Maywood Ave, Memorial Library, Minnesota State University, Mankato, Minnesota

Facilitator: Myotus | Joe Hoover

These workshops are put on by the Minnesota Historical Society as part of their commitment to the Minnesota local history community and are led by Local History Services.

Myotus (talk) 21:24, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2024 Minnesota User Group Meeting

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In the area? You're invited to the November 2024 Minnesota User Group Meeting

The organizer of this soiree is Joe Hoover aka Myotus feel free to drop him a message.

Okay its been a while since the Wikipedia Minnesota User Group has meet. Since the last time we meet there has been social upheaval, plague, etc... - no small thing to be sure. There has been some sad lonely discussions on the Minnesota Meetup page on getting together but little action. So here it is. Come and be seen. Talk about the future of the Minnesota User Group and see what nefarious plans we can hatch.


Date: Sunday, November 3, 2024
Time: 1 to 3:30 pm (reminder - Daylight Saving Time ends)
Place: Wild Mind Ales'
6031 Pillsbury Ave, Minneapolis, MN


Look forward to seeing folks!
Myotus (talk) 02:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]