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Hellenic Pakistan
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Chenzw has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: WP:OR and WP:SYNTH where the article primarily discusses Greek history, but cited sources do not explicitly support the association of the discussed Greek subject matter to "Hellenic Pakistan". Chenzw Talk 05:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.
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- Keep-Important references. Eku Roy (talk) 07:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't address my concerns about OR and SYNTH. Chenzw Talk 08:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep but rename it to "Hellenic Period in Pakistan"; this is to address concerns about anachronism. The article covers the Greek/Hellenic history within the region of modern-day Pakistan, including Alexander's conquest and the successor states that followed. This is a very significant part of the history of Pakistan. The references cited discuss Greek history in the area, but indeed do not specifically refer to it as "Hellenic Pakistan." – Cyber.Eyes.2005Talk 09:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Are you saying that Pakistan existed during the Hellenic period? Please also address the concern that the article is a misrepresentation of Indo-Greek Kingdom. [1] Chenzw Talk 10:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not claiming that modern Pakistan existed during the Hellenic period. The focus is on the land itself? The article discusses Alexander’s conquest and the following Seleucid, Greco-Bactrian, and Indo-Greek periods. There’s no misrepresentation here. The confusion likely came from the map, which shows the Indo-Greek kingdom, but it is clearly labeled as such. – Cyber.Eyes.2005Talk 10:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Are you saying that Pakistan existed during the Hellenic period? Please also address the concern that the article is a misrepresentation of Indo-Greek Kingdom. [1] Chenzw Talk 10:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I was going to nominate this myself. Concerns raised at enwiki (as linked above) are valid and I quote User:AirshipJungleman29: "...as someone who has contributed extensively in the area of the so-called "Hellenic Pakistan", a formulation which I don't believe has ever been used in scholarship..."; this is further supported by the fact that this simplewiki article is the only one which comes up if you search for "Hellenic Pakistan". This is also patent OR not a case simply solved by a rename, no RS on South Asian history consider a distinct period as such beyond a mention of the Indo-Greek Kingdom. To expand that to a coherent period of history and further anachronistically limit it to modern territorial entities is also clearly SYNTH. Gotitbro (talk) 04:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
This request is due to close on 05:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.