Property talk:P2196
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number of pupils or students of any type in an educational organization. Qualify with " point in time" (P585). The most recent count would generally have preferred rank; data for previous years normal rank (not deprecated rank). Don't overwrite.
Description | the number of students of any type in an educational organization | |||||||||
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Represents | student (Q48282), schoolchild (Q48942) | |||||||||
Has quality | complex constraint recency (Q102173107) | |||||||||
Data type | Quantity | |||||||||
Template parameter | enrollment in en:Template:Infobox university (Q5624848) | |||||||||
Domain | educational organization (Q5341295), fictional educational institution (Q15690029), facility (Q13226383) or organization (Q43229) | |||||||||
Allowed values | 0 ≤ 𝓧 ≤ 10,000,000 | |||||||||
Allowed units | not applicable | |||||||||
Usage notes | Qualify with "point in time" (P585). The most recent count would generally have preferred rank; data for previous years normal rank (not deprecated rank). Don't overwrite. | |||||||||
Example | Jagiellonian University (Q189441) → 41,661 Harvard University (Q13371) → 36,012 | |||||||||
Source | official web pages of universities (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896)) | |||||||||
Robot and gadget jobs | DeltaBot does the following jobs: | |||||||||
Tracking: usage | Category:Pages using Wikidata property P2196 (Q28039413) | |||||||||
Tracking: local yes, WD no | no label (Q101364392) | |||||||||
See also | employees (P1128), member count (P2124), number of teachers (P10610) | |||||||||
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Proposal discussion | Proposal discussion | |||||||||
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List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2196#Type Q5341295, Q15690029, Q13226383, Q43229, SPARQL
constraint “required qualifier constraint (Q21510856)” declaration error: “Too many qualifiers property (P2306)”.
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2196#Units
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2196#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2196#integer, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2196#citation needed
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2196#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2196#Scope, SPARQL
point in time (P585)-qualifier of values shouldn't be older than the duration set at Property:P2196#P1552 with complex constraint recency (Q102173107) (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT ?item ?dt ?age_days ( ROUND((now() - ?dt) / ?factor ) as ?age) WHERE { hint:Query hint:optimizer "None". wd:P2196 p:P1552 [ ps:P1552 wd:Q102173107 ; pq:P2047 ?duration ; pqv:P2047 / wikibase:quantityUnit ?unit ] . ?unit p:P2442 / psv:P2442 [ wikibase:quantityUnit wd:Q573 ; wikibase:quantityAmount ?factor ] BIND(?duration * ?factor as ?maxagedays) ?item p:P2196 ?st . ?st pq:P585 ?dt . FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item p:P2196 / pq:P585 ?dt0 . FILTER( ?dt0 > ?dt) } ?st ps:P2196 ?value . BIND( ROUND(now() - ?dt) as ?age_days) FILTER( ?age_days > ?maxagedays) FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P576 [] } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P3999 [] } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P582 [] } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P570 [] } } LIMIT 500
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P2196#Recency
Qualifying student types
editWe have rich data on American colleges and universities in the Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System (Q6042926). I've experimented with qualifying count of students (P2196) using applies to part (P518). For instance, Valparaiso University (Q186047) has recent students count numbers at http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?id=152600#enrolmt, and so I added those values qualified by applies to part (P518):undergraduate student (Q21094885) and applies to part (P518):graduate student (Q21094889), plus point in time (P585). I'd love to hear opinions on whether this is an appropriate solution, and if so, whether you support extending qualification to student types like full-time job (Q1198527) or race/ethnicity or distance education, for instance. Runner1928 (talk) 20:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Support the idea of partitioning by undergraduate student (Q21094885) and graduate student (Q21094889). I had the same idea for Institute of Mathematics and Statistics, University of São Paulo (Q10302895). Regarding the extension to other classifications, I'm less enthusiastic because it would make it harder to programmatically generate an accurate total count since there would be potential overlaps between each part. --Pedropaulovc (talk) 17:42, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Unit Constraints
editCan we get the unit constraints for student count in order? It's currently empty, leading tools to warn. @User:Laboramus --YaguraStation (talk) 22:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Missing point in time (P585) qualifier
editPlease see Wikidata:Bot_requests#Year-qualifier_for_"students_count"_(P2196)_values. --- Jura 06:36, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Should qualifier time period (P2348) be allowed too ?
editSeems like a lot of french schools were imported using a qualifier time period (P2348) instead of the required qualifier point in time (P585), were time period is something like academic year 2022-2023 in France (Q119628110) : a custom range of dates for an academic year, spanning over two calendar years. There are around 31557 qualifiers with that value at the moment (see d:Special:WhatLinksHere/Q119628110), and as many warnings "required qualifier constraint (Q21510856)". IMHO, that qualifier time period (P2348) should probably also be allowed as an alternative to point in time (P585) when using any instance of academic year (Q915466) as value, as it does seem quite relevant. --FoeNyx (talk) 18:29, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hello FoeNyx, thank you for your remarks. In French official records, the number of students for each school is recorded once during each academic year, which spans from September to July. That's why the qualifier is time period (P2348). Assigning a specific day would be wrong, and a calendar year would be confusing. Arpyia (talk) 06:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Arpyia, I think you misunderstood my question (which means it probably wasn't worded clearly enough, my bad). I wasn't asking for an explanation of why P2348 is used but rather if, in the light of those entries, we should also add P2348 to the list of allowed qualifiers. Meanwhile, @Rémi sim added it in april, so I guess I wasn't the only one who thought it should be added. Cheers. --FoeNyx (talk) 07:08, 29 September 2024 (UTC)