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Dear Timtrent, I have edited the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Chukwuma_C._Ogbaga based on your suggestions. Specifically, I removed the wikidata citations and the clumped citations to avoid WP:CITEKILL. Thank you for your help AlexCollins4u (talk) 20:24, 12 October 2024 (UTC). AlexCollins4u (talk) 20:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AlexCollins4u I am afraid my review is not quite what you hoped for, but the rejection is now nullified. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:29, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you assist me in publishing this page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Joyride_Sweets&action=edit&section=3 yours sincerely,Toby Toblerone101 (talk) 20:23, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toblerone101 I am not the reviewer who rejected it. Please make your case with them. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:25, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How can I find them Toblerone101 (talk) 20:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toblerone101 With respect, they signed the rejection notice. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:33, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Incorrectly applied primary-source issue on Burton Machine Rifle.

The article only contains a single primary source; all others are secondary and tertiary. But please do let me know if I'm mistaken.

Thanks, Shuttle256 (talk) 04:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

(talk page watcher) @Shuttle256: that's a bit harsh. The article does cite multiple primary sources. Timtrent accepted the draft, and quite correctly tagged it as having primary sources, and for that he gets a slap in the face? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shuttle256 What they said. But I will grill the trout and enjoy it. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I did not mean any offence at all.

What primary sources are listed? I don't know which ones you are referring to.

Once again, sorry.

Shuttle256 (talk) 10:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shuttle256 Trouts are apology free 😂, no need to apologise. Any Youtube videos, but see WP:YOUTUBE and anything that even resembles a blog. Current refs 4, 5, 6. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:42, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. You may close this thread if you wish to.

Shuttle256 (talk) 14:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shuttle256 No need. It will be archived in seven days. It's been good to meet you. I do need to wash the fish off my face, though 🐟 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 14:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sir, please check and help.

Draft:Vietnam Cashew Association

Thanks! Herofive (talk) 10:34, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Herofive If you are content that you have done enough please resubmit. After resubmission please continue to improve the draft 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:46, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Justin_Kimball_(photographer)

Hello Timtrent,

I'm having some issues with your reasoning for rejecting the article. You included in the reasoning that I shouldn't include Justin Kimball's books as a source, and to add the ISBN; I am using the ISBN if you check the sources and I'm using them to source the books when I reference them, so I'm not understanding your reasoning here, should I not cite the books at all? And for the notability of the person, I went to the guidelines and Justin Kimball meets the requirements:

under Biography 1. The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times;

Justin Kimball was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship, which is a significant award which is included in his award section at the top. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guggenheim_Fellowship

Under Creative professionals This guideline applies to authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, and other creative professionals. Such a person is notable if:

3. The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.

Justin Kimball has permanent collections at the Library of Congress, the National Gallery of Art in Washington D.C., and the J Paul Getty Museum in Los Angeles, among others which are listed in his collections.

I have multiple sources from major news organizations covering his work, including the Boston Globe and the Wall Street Journal, as well as Aperture Magazine, one of the largest and most influential photography publications (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_(magazine). The citations for his group exhibitions are also included and are from reputable publications that cover art and photography news and reviews. His books have contributors with their own wikipedia pages, as do his books as contributor, including a book by former vice president and presidential candidate Al Gore.

I believe that he meets the criteria for notability, and the sources are adequate.

Best,

jnanderson26 Jnanderson26 (talk) 15:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jnanderson26 At present it is over-referenced. If, when you list the books, you use the ISBN there, inside the template, then they do not require a reference. However, if there is a review of a book that acts as a review of the author. That should be incorporated in the text. You have not said much about hi in the draft. It shoudl speak for ite=self. Readers must not be required to hunt out his notability, you must tell them what is said about him in secondary sources, albeit in your own words.

Why do 100% of his exhibitions and books require listing? Be selective. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62090733 will link to the relevant indices when the draft is approved and the article is linked from there. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, this is HC226, you recently reviewed my article submission for the American Mixed Martial Artist Grant Neal. The reason for rejection was "UNDUE" on the sexual assault case mentioned. I would like to know what viewpoints I would be recommended to supress and/or expand on in order for readers to have a complete picture of the case. I apologize if the writing seemed biased, that was not my intention.

Thank you for your help. Best, HC226 (talk) 15:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HC226 The answer is that it needs to be one facet of Neal, and to take less prominence. Human beings are multi-faceted. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:32, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, I will attempt to change the proportion it takes on the article or give it its own section, while keeping important details. Thank you for your answer. HC226 (talk) 18:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I would like to thank you for your review of my draft article. In reading your explanation, I do understand your reasoning and will make suggested précis work. It would be a real shame to see this entry immediately deleted.

I would also like to clarify. The sentences you have pointed out as problematic are in the "Analytical Structure" section, and my reading is that this is the only place where the text comes across as an interpretation by the author. Is this correct? I have worked extremely hard to stay true to the document itself and the empirical grounding of it since this can be a sensitive subject where many people make assumptions and claims without scientific examination and study. If there are other places you see interpretation, please do let me know.

Additionally, I had communicated with the first reviewer and it was suggested that the title should be more concise. Through that discussion, I came to the conclusion that the best title would be Méndez Principles on Effective Interviewing. I also learned that the most logical time when a change to the title can be made is during its move to the main space of Wikipedia. This means that the reviewer who accepts it would be in the place to make this change. Are you in a place to review this article once I have done the requested revisions and work? Legitimacy Matters (talk) 19:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Legitimacy Matters Thank you for appreciating what I have suggested. A common thing we see is drafts which are too lengthy, often leading to thoughts of WP:OR and/or WP:SYNTH. It's an easy trap to fall into, and one which risks deletion on a newly accepted draft.

All(!) you have to do is to demonstrate that the topic has notability.

With regard to my reviewing for second time, I always feel that fresh eyes will serve you better than those which have examined the draft, any draft, before. They bring a freshness to the task. I will decline the invitation, I'm afraid.

The article title will be decided on acceptance, and you are welcome to to suggest a title on the draft talk page. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]