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GA Review

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Nominator: Gained (talk · contribs) 17:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: IanTEB (talk · contribs) 19:54, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is under an ongoing title move request, but I don't think that presents a problem for a GA review.

Checklist

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  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Background and composition

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  • unable to do with the people she had met in real life - 'real life' could be shortened to just 'life'.
  • [3] only mentions that Swift conceived the album from two years of emotions, not that it had been in the works for two years, unless I'm missing something.
    • Changed to "She included all of the emotions she felt in the last two years on the album"
  • The archived [4] (Songwriter Universe) takes me to the main page where I don't see any content pertaining to the album.
  • she is accompanied by a background male vocalist - is it not known who the background vocalist is? This article also lacks a Personnel section for the 2010 version, but so do the other articles on songs from this album so I assume that information is not available.
    • Yes, the credits for the individual album tracks are not available.
  • I'm unable to access the live version of [11] but the archive works fine. It's either a regional thing, or the source has become dead (the article on HitFix seems to suggest the latter).
    • It's the latter.
  • with some believing that it would have been for her 2006 self-titled studio album - shouldn't 'would' be 'could'?
  • What does 'older than her years' mean? Her age?
    • I believe so according to my interpretation of the quote.
  • Verified: [1], [2], [8], [9], [10], [12], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [24], [25], [26]. Assuming good faith on print sources

Release and live performances

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  • I don't see Big Machine Records within [23] (AllMusic), but I am unfamiliar with navigating the site so it might be under a section I'm missing
    • Replaced with the Apple Music source
  • Swift performed 'Never Grow Up' at selected locations of the album's associated world tour in 2011 - I would prefer the tour is mentioned by name (Speak Now World Tour), but it is only a preference
    • I personally prefer the former but I get why you prefer the latter.
  • via=Newspapers.com should be added to [28] and [30]
  • [31] (Washington Post) should have subscription access clarified in the citation using url-access=subscription
  • the second child of her friend, the actress Jaime King - changing this to 'the second child of her friend and actress Jamie King' might be a more clear alternative to this text. When I first read the text, I mistakenly thought that the actress was Swift's godchild.
    • I changed it to "her godson and the second child of the actress Jaime King" and removed "her friend" because I think it's not necessary.
  • Verified: [29], [32], [33], [34]

Critical reception

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  • It seems [17] (Los Angeles Times) needs a url-access=subscription
  • [38] redirects me to a rather sketchy website, but the archive works fine. URL status should possibly be changed to dead, if it is not a regional issue
    • The original link works for me just fine and it shows the album review. I believe it's a regional issue.
  • 'where Swift actually changes it up' - 'where' should be moved out of quotations
  • showcased Swift's skill of 'taking common country-radio templates and perfecting them' - I think this sentence is a slight exaggeration of the source. Heaton writes that "sometimes, like on the parent-to-child ballad 'Never Grow Up', Swift seems capable of...". 'Seeming capable of' doesn't technically mean that the writer believes her to absolutely have that skill.
    • Changed to "showcased Swift's potential capability"
  • The Oklahoman believed it was one of the tracks where Swift gives a break to the album's 'tabloid marathon' - is also a bit of an exaggeration, albeit in the opposite direction of above. Lang states that tracks like this make the album not a tabloid marathon, whilst the current text implies that he thought that the rest of the album was so.
  • Changed to "The Oklahoman believed it was one of the tracks that does not make the album a 'tabloid marathon'"
  • included in the rankings of Swift's discography by Jane Song and a staff of Paste (56) - like done above when specifying that Nathan Chapman played the song's guitar, it might be best to put '(at 56)' for the first entry here for clarification.
  • [48] (Vulture) places the song at 92, but the article says 94
  • Verified: [35], [6], [39], [47], [19], [12]

"Never Grow Up (Taylor's Version)"

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  • that it was further heighten by Swift being an adult - shouldn't 'heighten' be heightened'?
  • that although her singing may seem jarring at first but her - I would change this to 'although her singing may seem jarring at first, her...'
  • The credits lack citation
    • Added
  • Verified: [55], [56], [57], [58], [59], [60]

Conclusion

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Mostly minor issues, I hope nothing is too much of a bother to alter. There isn't any illustration, but I don't know if anything would really help the article (expect an audio sample, maybe?) so I don't think it's a problem. IanTEB (talk) 19:54, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @IanTEB! Thank you for choosing this to review. I'll be addressing your points at the end of the week. As for illustrations, I don't think an audio sample would help due to how simple the production and lyrics are, and I believe readers can imagine the music and lyrics just by reading the prose so I don't think it is necessary. Gained (talk) 10:15, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @IanTEB! All of your points have been addressed, and I have left comments on some of the points while the rest were done or fixed. A few of the points were done by @Dcdiehardfan (thanks btw!). Gained (talk) 01:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This was a quick review (was gonna say swift, but I realized my error). I edited a few small points that I missed; I'm happy to pass this. IanTEB (talk) 15:05, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]