User talk:Srose: Difference between revisions

Is it my fault what a moose does? - LD

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Sable, thank you for your support in my RfA. I was actually surprised that you supported me, and I hope everything in Wiki is going well. I can promise that I won't go too insane with my SysOp privelleges. And I hope I still keep everything in the real world great. I'll try to help with that. Nick.

I was pleasantly surprised. Seeing your talk page it can be seen that you make great efforts to be helpful in a positive way. People who will take time to contribute to the "greater good" should be admired. I aspire to be more like that some day. Perhaps Wiki will allow me to do a little something at least in a small way. Kindest regards. Mike CCL.

I live near and work in eastwood and I am or oriential desent. Is this not a good enough source???? Please kindly re-instate what was deleted.

Thank you for your message and helpful hints. I am new to contributing to Wikipedia and am learning. I will check and add sources used for the article and attempt to understand Wikify

Just a good o' smily  ;-)
Thanks you for giving me a head up! Nice to meet ya'!

No problem - I'm sure your motives were positive. I didn't know about "signing on as an IP" - indeed I still can't really grasp the concept - but I realise that I should have logged in using my username before editing anything. I still don't really understand how wikipedia works - edits are not automatically attributed to the person making them, it seems (cf. attribution of posts to Usenet or web boards) - so I was trying to "claim" my comment without realising that it could be mistaken for impersonation. Never mind, I live and learn. How do I set up a disambiguation page, btw? There is a page called "Parliamentary Debate" which is about competitive debating in schools, yet most adults (in the UK at least) would assume that the term referred to debates in Parliament. I've suggested it on the Talk page but it's clearly not a very widely-read page, so I thought I'd try and sort it out myself ... Cheers.

Oh, ta very much for all the comments and suggestions. I am trying *sigh* to reduce my activity here during the next week or so, but after that I'll be back and will be jumping into things with a vengeance. And then there'll be no stopping me... :) Thanks for the nice smile too, by the way. I brought cupcakes. Hope to see you around, — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • ER • 23:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it's night, which is why I'm feeling slightly less guilty about editing right now :) Damn, that sounds like a lot of work. I hope you don't have a hard time with it all! Good to hear from you again. Cheers, — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • ER • 13:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for voting, Srose! Thanks so much for your support vote on my request for adminship! With a final vote count of (82/5/0), it succeeded, and I'm now an administrator! I am thrilled with the overwhelming positive support from the community, and sincerely thank you once again for taking your time to voice your opinion. Feel free to contact me with any comments/suggestions in the future! —Mets501 (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Yes, it's a mix-up. Well, I'll just cut and paste myself out of here. Thanks for the response. Fwend 23:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did you have any thoughts on my response to your comments about flagging other wiki hosting service pages for deletion? I think it would be pretty shady for me to do it but it's obviously frustrating if the Wikispaces entry is going to be removed and others aren't. Adamfrey 21:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Everyone on this list is probably a good start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_farms

Adamfrey 19:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you say Wetpaint qualifies for deletion but the others don't? Adamfrey 18:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First, those four criteria (first, unique, membership numbers, language) are not mentioned in WP:WEB. Second, Wikispaces qualifies under at least a couple of those criteria certainly more than several of the others do. We have several unique characteristics and we're certainly of a size to be notable.

Seems to me there are two real objections to the Wikispaces entry.

1) It's "advertising". That's valid to an extent. I think the appropriate response is to rewrite the entry so that it's informative rather than advertising.

2) It's not "notable". We're clearly as notable or more than most of those other entries. It's going to take a long time for me to convince anyone of that in this forum but it's true. It's certainly reasonable that plenty of people haven't heard of us but that doesn't mean we're not notable in the eyes of many people.

Thoughts?

Adamfrey 00:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. Here are a few "non-trivial" references to Wikispaces itself:

http://www.developerpipeline.com/blog/archives/2005/10/wikis_versus_bl.html

http://news.com.com/How+wikis+are+changing+our+view+of+the+world/2009-1025_3-5944453.html

http://personalweb.about.com/od/wikihostingandsoftware/a/511wiki.htm

http://www.nyteknik.se/art/44655 (In swedish but it's basically a review of wiki hosting services)

http://www.wamu.org/programs/kn/06/02/21.php#10383

http://netsquared.org/frey

http://www.techsoup.org/learningcenter/webbuilding/page4563.cfm?CFID=20736346&CFTOKEN=75527754

Thanks, Adam

...for the really nice message, support, and cake. Something about the texture is just...amazing. It's making me ridiculously hungry. Coincidentally, I've been meaning to comment in your editor review, but I'm holding off on participating in any ER/RfA/XfD type situations until my own RfA is complete. So yeah, thanks so much! Have a great evening, alphaChimp ^laudare 02:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

''''hi sir how are u..

          sir i want to know sth about generator construction.
            and i am studying about electrition and i want some help from u and i want some notes of electrical.''''

Hi there!! I'm actually a girl, but don't worry about that - it's hard to tell online! Hmmm...I'm not too knowledgable about electricity. Maybe if you went to the following articles, they would help:

• Generator
• Electricity

Also see the Reference Desk, where someone who knows more may be able to assist you. Srose (talk) 16:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heya, I've updated your edit count using Flcelloguy's tool, since you asked so nicely. :) You might be able to do it yourself, though, using something like Interiot's Tool 2 - it uses Javascript, so it should run just fine in your web browser. Unfortunately, it can be very slow: my 1.33Ghz G4 laptop takes around ten seconds to run through ~2700 edits, so if your computer is much slower than that, it might not be feasible at all. RandyWang (^{chat me up}/_{fix me up}) 23:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Essjay's tool is pretty nifty. Yanksox 23:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll second that: I tried it for the first time ever, just then, and it's much faster than Interiot's Tool 2. It also looks prettier. :) RandyWang (^{chat me up}/_{fix me up}) 23:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Phew! Your machine sounds like a monster. I'd offer you an iMac (of which I have more than a few just lying around - the Australian National University sold hundreds off a while ago), but the postage might be just a tad on the expensive side. ;) RandyWang (^{chat me up}/_{fix me up}) 02:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thank you for the star :) --Ali doostzadeh 01:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please? I have a few minutes... Yanksox 02:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I wrote the original article and all in it is verifiable. I don't know why it was rewritten.

Hi, If you copyedit (which is a good thing, thanks) any more of the shark articles can you leave the   between the values and units on the measurements as this prevents linebreaks between them. Thanks Yomangani^talk 19:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, it's VandalProof I use, and so it was automatic! --Alex ^{talk here} 23:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I sure appreciate your comment on Talk:Benier_Koranache; I was really encouraged by your words. --Graham^talk/mail/e 20:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to commend you on the conversation in Talk:Benier_Koranache. It's an outstanding example of how to handle difficult interactions. Waitak 00:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Howdy! I see you've been quite active lately, how is the project coming out?

- Yanksox 22:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

these people are attacking the validity and popularity of my site, so i'm not going to mince words. if they're going to delete me then they will, i don't care. these people are basing their opinions on terrible reasoning and i'm straightening them out.

what the big deal is. it's not like i just posted a link to my site and that's it. i went through the process of listing all of it's notable attributes. i think these people are basing their opinions on the fact that they've personally never heard of it. i've done everything myself and haven't had the luxury of having advertising money like myspace, so i think a little credit is due for something that came out of sheer will and determination.

Srose, let me begin by saying I'm not here to dispute your weak oppose of Stevie's RFA. I was curious, however, about a position I see frequently. RFA participants often say that someone shouldn't be made an admin b/c they don't need the tools, even though they won't abuse them, that all of the tasks they are working on can be accomplished without the bit. I've never understood it, though I may well have missed something. What's the rationale behind it? You can reply here. Thanks.--Kchase T 19:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Essentially, my rationale is that the community doesn't need to hand out tools to folks who are high quality contributors (much like Stevie - please see my excessively lengthy message on his talk page) when others who actually do admin-like jobs would like them and be more deserving of them. We already have too many admins that do not regularly use the tools. Adminship isn't an elevated status. Admins are merely a group of users who do extremely behind-the-scenes work: closing XfDs (see WP:AfD and its backlog - if it still has one; it changes by the hour), warning and blocking vandals (Wikipedia:Blocking policy), reverting vandalism (administrators have a tool to revert that is much faster than any of those available to non-admins), answering newcomers' questions, deleting non-controversial pages (see WP:CSD), protecting pages that are receiving high amounts of vandalism (like Elephant, after that infamous Colbert Report), and negotiating compromises for users in conflicts. As Stevie rarely does some of these things (and never does the rest), I just don't think he needs the mop and flamethrower. Adminship isn't a reward for particularly good editors: it's an added list of duties for those who have experience in admin areas (XfD, WP:3O, WP:MEDCAB, vandalism) and are trusted enough by the community to have the ability to block users, delete articles, close XfDs and protect articles. Srose (talk) 19:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's also JS-assisted non-admin rollback. I've been using it for a while now. Anyway, I should have been more specific, but I think it's just because we disagree. To me, it seems like an inefficient use of community time to evaluate a candidate and then not give them the tools because they will rarely use them, even though they will not abuse them. Perhaps the reason for such voting is more global: to discourage RFAs from good editors who don't need the tools and thereby encourage RFAs from folks who are more keen to help with our backlogs?--Kchase T 20:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • That last sentence is exactly it, boiled down to a drop. I guess I went on a bit long, huh? Well, in any case, I imagine Stevie's RfA will succeed, just looking at the pattern thus far, and I wish him all the best of luck. I would like to see more candidates who are intent on helping behind the scenes with backlogs, etc., because essentially, that's the entire difference between an admin and a regular, registered user. Srose (talk) 20:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yeah, I think Stevie's going to get the flamethrower. Thanks for the dialogue, Srose.--Kchase T 20:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • Ack, I was just about to add a PS, and it appears we edit-conflicted. Anyway, the PS was: I use JS rollbacks too, but the admin version compresses several of the steps, so it's faster and easier. Nice chatting with you, too. If you ever need anything, my door's open! :) Srose (talk) 20:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the brownies. Even though I'm on a "diet", I find that eating a picture of brownies on my computer screen doesn't add too many calories. :) Let me know if I can do any admin-ish thing for you! --Aguerriero (talk) 19:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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• I'll no doubt have some questions soon, so thanks again for the warm welcome!

Thank you very much for the comment as well as the explanation on the Calvary Church article. I am amazed at how quickly things get done on wikipedia! One question, does wikipedia have any kind of spell check feature (I know that I am going to need it). Thebigaster 22:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks for the cookies and the good advice. As well as the suggestions. I am a little new, and if I make some more valuable edits, maybe I will qualify. Again, thanks. --imdanumber1 22:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was my pleasure. He's an incredible user, and he absolutely deserves the title and the tools. -- Kicking222 22:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well deserved [2] [3] -- Samir धर्म 00:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was, we went in because of the heat and lunch. It's starting to get shady so I'll probably go out again. Yanksox 16:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll e-mail you all the details. Yanksox 16:04, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Give me half an hour, I'm going off line. Yanksox 16:06, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your warm welcome, and I look forward to participating in the Wikipedia project. I'm about to upload my first entry, so I'm sure I'll have some input from a number of people (hopefully you included!).

Cheers, Goinhome50 22:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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