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U must be joking of tagging KLIA as an asian airport stub....Marcusaffleck 09:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

oops. just found out what a stub is..

I am just wondering, what is the reason you change the template for the states of Malaysia (i.e {{Kelantan}}? Is it already better with the flag and its coats of arms? are there other problems persisted? --Zack2007 12:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i suggested it in Category talk:Malaysian navigational boxes before i changed anything. earth agreed with my suggestion. so far i have changed the state templates for sabah, kelantan, n9, johor, and perlis. u prefer the old one ah? if u dont like it, we'll see what we can do alright..

i just realised btw that i had earlier changed the kelantan template on 14 feb. i forgot about this when doing it the 2nd time on 18 feb. so i was not aware of the revert u did until just now..

What do u think of this? Template_talk:Kelantan. At least in this template, the flag and the coat of arms have the same size, not too discriminatory. tell me what you think--Zack2007 08:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to put it at the same level, but it doesn't work. I guess we can then resort to your template. I endorse it then.. you can use your template (with the coat of arms) then. :) --Zack2007 13:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found the old template is actually a mess when viewed in Internet Explorer. Try viewing the template for Kuala Lumpur article in IE. So it is timely to convert all these into a collapsible template like what you are doing now. Good job! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zack2007 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 21 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Please check out Template:Johor and Template talk:Kelantan. This is a new navbox suited for those with many categories in the navbox. Tell me what you think. Isn't it better? --Zack2007 00:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Look at Template:Sabah, I have changed it to centre it. I prefer it to be on the left though, it looks a bit funny in the centre. What do u think? --Zack2007 08:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the navbox generic template gives a cleaner, neater look with categories clearly shown. With the previous template, it sorta doesnt give clearly display these categories well. So yeah, I don't know, u can ask others if you want. --Zack2007 09:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. This is in relation to the contracted word Bandaraya. If you ask any BM teacher, they will say that Bandar Raya is the correct way to write, together with kereta api, sama ada, jalan raya, lebuh raya, etc. The old contracted word is no longer use, but many of the governmental organisation (like MBSA etc still dont convert to the new spelling. I think as a formality, we should make efforts to revert to the format laid out by DBP, (that is to separate the words). --Zack2007 12:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just something to back up my point. News article. I propose that the word Bandaraya as in Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam, for example, should be retained as they have been spelled that way in the constitution, but for a normal usage, as in mottos and slogans, it should be changed into the correct proper spelling. What do u think? --Zack2007 12:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No No. all the local council will stay at its original contracted version, Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam, Majlis Bandaraya Alor Star, etc. BUT, if it is in slogan, it should show the correct usage that is "Bandar raya", such as "Bandar raya bersejarah", "Bandar raya pintar". This is suggested in the article above. Just to clarify, sound good?--Zack2007 14:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DBKL's official name in english is KL City Hall, for example in this government website. I think we should stick with the official name. If you'd like, u can make an article, and probably explain about this variant that is used in Malaysia (perhaps calling it as a unique case. :P ) --Zack2007 08:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, Brisbane City Hall works the same way as DBKL. So we're not that unique then. :P read City and town halls. --Zack2007 08:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I just had a look at it, and it's surprisingly comprehensive and detailed. Good job. This is a good example to related articles on districts in KL. - Two hundred percent 09:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the feedback 200% :)

Decided to add a note into the introduction of the article based on your justification provided in the talk page. When I first read the article, it implies referring to actual districts in the country. This addition should avoid any confusion. - Two hundred percent 05:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, somebody really did biased on almost every articles about Malaysia. The point is we dont know where on earth they find that thing, and Government of Malaysia did not start their NPOV ensyclopedia, thats why u cant find the definition and some wikipedia start some history rather than definition. So here it is, Im post-spm student, I got it from Buku panduan kemasukan ke institusi pengajian tinggi awam, here the original in Malay language:

1. Semenanjung
   • "Jika salah seorang ibu atau bapa calon adalah seorang Melayu yang beragama Islam/Orang Asli seperti mana yang ditakrifkan dalam Perkara 160 (2) Perlembagaan Persekutuan; maka anaknya adalah seorang Bumiputera".
2. Sabah
   • "Jika bapa calon adalah seorang Melayu yang beragama Islam/Peribumi sabah seperti mana yang ditakrifkan dalam Perkara 161A (6)(a) Perlembagaan Persekutuan; maka anaknya adalah dianggap seorang Bumiputera".
3. Sarawak
   • "Jika bapa dan ibu calon adalah seorang Peribumi Sarawak seperti mana yang ditakrifkan dalam Perkara 161A (6)(b) Perlembagaan Persekutuan; maka anaknya adalah dianggap seorang Bumiputera".

Should we add these to the article?--Towaru 10:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You may be right, but according to sentences above, like for example, "seperti mana yang ditakrifkan dalam Perkara 161A (6)(a) Perlembagaan Persekutuan" , which mean "as stated according to the definition in Article 161A (6) (a) of Federal Constitution", its clearly the definition is in the constitution.

Well, ofcouse, I myself not sure about "bapa calon adalah seorang Melayu yang beragama Islam/Peribumi sabah", I dont know why is it differ from each state, maybe its because each state has its owned unique constitution and in west Malaysia, they, on the other hand had has already centeralized the constitution. Maybe, if possible, we better refer this to the government, or the law-maker.--Towaru 11:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

oh great, I'm confuse already, I think I leave this matter to you. So theres no definite meaning to bumiputra, even, nowaday, sino-native are considered as a bumiputra.--Towaru 12:48, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hmn I dont think so, the only thng its says here, Program Pengajian Lepasan SPM/Setaraf Sesi Akademik 2007/2008 by Bahagian Pengurusan kemasukan Pelajar Jabatan Pengurusan IPT Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi Malaysia, and i dont think theres an english for this.--Towaru 14:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Look nice!! Good job man... :) --Zack2007 14:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is the best Malaysian map made by a Wikipedia I have seen so far. Great job! Maybe we could expand it to the whole Malaysia later! __earth ^(Talk) 01:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are in the right direction. The only thing that is rather out of place is the arrow and Sandakan text. I don't recall maps pointing out specific areas using them. See Image:Woodlands locator map.png, Image:EnglandLondon.png, Image:Manhattan Highlight New York City Map Julius Schorzman.png and Image:Taipo-PositionWithinHKSAR.jpg for examples. You may also like to rename the image to mention which district the marked location is referring to. Hope that helps. - Two hundred percent 06:27, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In reference to your comment in my talk page, I replied such:

Perhaps the whole sentence itself is problematic and should warrant a total rewrite. Maybe this could be the way it can be written :

Lina Joy, who was born Azalina Jailani, claimed to have converted from Islam to Christianity, arguing that it came under her right to freedom of religion under Article 11 of the Constitution of Malaysia.

Agree with you on the adding an 'a' to the court decision sentence.

The reason why I would rather not use the term "unofficially" is because there is generally no such provision outside of Islam (and primarily due to its status as a state religion) and Azalina did have a certificate of baptism issued by a legal authority under the Roman Catholic church. I can understand how it can be controversial but it's better to stick with the facts here.

- Bob K 12:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. Thanks for putting up a photo of KL's Lutheran Zion Cathedral on the Lutheran Church in Malaysia and Singapore (LCMS) article. Unfortunately, this cathedral is used by a different Lutheran denomination; the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Malaysia. Even though the LCMS has a bishop, the title is mainly ceremonial rather than episcopal and the bishop's role is more akin to a Presiding bishop and therefore the denomination doesn't have a cathedral. Nonetheless, I'd like to save a reference to the photo, so I'll just comment it out from the article. Thanks again for your help. -- Bob K 20:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: your comment, you are correct. There's no article on the ELCM yet. I did make a visit to the diocesan office a few weeks ago to try to get some background information but I was told to write in (?!) .. hehe. Managed to get some nice photos of the Cathedral though .. including their bell tower and Liberty Bell lookalike church bell. == Bob K 10:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Kawaputra. I see you edit articles on Sabah. Could I ask you a favour? I have created several articles that relate to Sabah (where my grandparents lived from 1919 to 1951) and Sarawak (where they were interned in Batu Lintang camp during World War II); and have just made a page on Stephen R. Evans, an interesting Sabahan who authored a very useful book that I used in my research for the Batu Lintang page. Could I ask you to check over his page (and any others of mine that are relevant, such as Agnes Newton Keith if you have the time) for any howlers? I'm in the UK and have never visited Sabah, just read about it - I hope I haven't introduced any inadvertant mistakes. Many thanks, Jasper33 11:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good point about where was he an MP/politician - I've amended the text so it's made specific. Thanks for that. One day I hope to get to Sabah. My grandparents lived at Kimanis: I wonder whether it's been wrecked by the Petronas oil and gas terminal yet? Jasper33 04:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My grandfather managed three rubber plantations, the main one at Kimanis and the others at Papar and Mawao for Guthrie (Malaysia). Both my grandparents survived the camp but never talked about it to me, although I have my grandmother's recollections that she wrote when she was in her 70s. Both my sisters have been to Kimanis to visit their old house - one day I'll get there, but I'm not sure if the house will still be standing ...! Jasper33 05:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]