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:We don’t know where it is, it might be in a Russian controlled area and has been towed away by now. Even if the Ukrainian army did capture it they wouldn’t count as operators unless they are actually operating it, which would need to be proven. [[User:PrismaCosmos|PrismaCosmos]] ([[User talk:PrismaCosmos|talk]]) 20:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:We don’t know where it is, it might be in a Russian controlled area and has been towed away by now. Even if the Ukrainian army did capture it they wouldn’t count as operators unless they are actually operating it, which would need to be proven. [[User:PrismaCosmos|PrismaCosmos]] ([[User talk:PrismaCosmos|talk]]) 20:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

As there is no proof of Ukraine capturing any of these weapons, the claim that they are operating any should be removed. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia [[User:Acorn897|Acorn897]] ([[User talk:Acorn897|talk]]) 20:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)



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Add Ukraine?

Apparently the Russians have just abandoned at least one of these fully loaded in a field for whoever wants it in Ukraine, as of March 1, 2022. [1]

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.37.26.246 (talk) 06:09, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply] 
We don’t know where it is, it might be in a Russian controlled area and has been towed away by now. Even if the Ukrainian army did capture it they wouldn’t count as operators unless they are actually operating it, which would need to be proven. PrismaCosmos (talk) 20:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As there is no proof of Ukraine capturing any of these weapons, the claim that they are operating any should be removed. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia Acorn897 (talk) 20:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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Number of barrels

The artical says 30-barrel but I only see 24 on the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.231.180.136 (talk) 05:51, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are two versions: the M with 30 barrels and the A with 24 barrels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.221.75.153 (talk) 15:15, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Naming

"but the name essentially meaning "heavy flame throwing merry wooden boy" is somewhat ironic and sometimes used for comedic purposes in Russia" - reference please? 77.232.10.192 (talk) 22:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

do you really need a reference for that? it's hilarious -.- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.246.22.38 (talk) 14:44, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Russian: ТОС-1 – тяжёлая огнемётная система, English: Heavy Flamethrower System) is a wrong translation. огнемётная = shooting. The complete translate would be: Heavy Shooting System—Preceding unsigned comment added by SourCream&Onion (talkcontribs) 10:21, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Not a flamethrower!

It is hard to see how this weapon could be called a flamethrower. It simply isn't a flamethrower, it's a rocket launcher, so it "throws" missiles, not fire. Judging by the very old topic "Naming" here-above, it's a mistranslation, and if that's indeed the case, then it has proliferated since, see

related to TOS-1A
not related to TOS-1A

"Spitting fire" (see Spitfire) or "spewing fire", like a dragon, used metaphorically, would indeed make sense, but this pseudo-technical use of the clearly defined English term "flamethrower" simply does not. Please clarify and modify all the affected articles accordingly. Thanks, Arminden (talk) 17:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see your point - you could follow WP:BEBOLD and just edit the articles? I don't know Russian so can't translate accurately, and Google Translate makes it "flamethrower", but I understand it is not a flamethrower in the English sense. I think the mention in the title depends on what the actual translation actually is (and I don't have the skills to tell you that)? - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's not up to me. That's why I pointed out to the translation of "SourCream&Onion" in the "Naming" discussion here-above, but he was a one-time-only contributor, so I don't know if to trust him. Is there a Russian topics forum around? They would be the right ones to ask. Good US and NATO sources would also be great, they have their own specialists. Arminden (talk) 09:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Protected from precision weapons?

The article claims that the TOS-1 is "protected from precision weapons".

What on earth does that even mean? That it is not protected from imprecise weapons? Vaughan Pratt (talk) 07:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]