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Archive 1

Archive 2

Chuck Norris has recently had an entire chapter written about him in Maddox's book "The Alphabet of Manliness" under the N chapter. I think this should be added to the pop culture section of the page. Ilabb 23:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I wonder if this story is true? Here's what I've found at imdb: www.imdb.com/name/nm0000045/board/nest/24415793 --RockyMM 03:00, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

The story is true. If anyone wants a source, go pay a visit to Dan Inosanto, Chuck Norris wrote an apologetic letter to Bruce Lee and the original letter is currently in the care of Lee's student, Dan Inosanto.

Please see the section below, dated 19 December 2005, for further discussion. Shawnc 04:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The following story is Completely True:

At a demonstration in Long Beach, Norris met the soon to be famous Bruce Lee, who would ingrain Norris in martial arts history forever with his portrayal as Bruce Lee's nemesis in the Way of the Dragon. www.netkushi.com/articles/chuck-norris.php But while the two were publicly friendly, contrary to what many (including Norris himself) state, they were not close friends. Lee had repeatedly humiliated Norris during a mock sparring session in the hotel hallway at the Long Beach International Karate Championships in 1964. And Norris had offended Lee when he publicly claimed to be a better fighter than Lee. When word got back to Lee, he called Norris and openly challenged him, threatening to drive to his school to fight (Norris was teaching his black belt class at that time). According to eye witnesses, Lee made Norris hold the phone receiver up and shout in front of his black belts, "Bruce Lee is a better fighter than me!" Later, Norris wrote an Apologetic Letter to Lee; the original letter is currently in the care of Lee's student, Dan Inosanto. Dan Inosanto currently still owns the Letter of Apology that Chuck Norris wrote to Bruce Lee, which is in a Long Beach Dojo. Yet despite these conflicts, the two managed to set aside any differences in pursuit of their mutual film aspirations and develop a friendly public persona toward one another. www.classictvhits.com/cast.php?id=4420

If you proof that the story is true, then read ALL These SITES: Sources:

• www.netkushi.com/articles/chuck-norris.php
• www.classictvhits.com/cast.php?id=4420
• www.answers.com/topic/chuck-norris
• www.earwaks.com/forum/fpost42979.html
• www.buzzscope.com/pcs/forums/archive/index.php/t-9659.html
• forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=7750&cpage=4&limit=views

4 of those websites mirror this entry -- so, no, you can't photocopy a story and verify the details with the duplication. The fifth link, a forum post, is intended as a joke: "Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried." The last link doesn't say anything about the outlandish story you defend. I suspect you are only carrying out this revert war to disrupt Wikipedia. Get lost then. Lotsofissues 22:35, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

The following sources for the Lee/Norris info are NOT a mirror of this article:

• www.buzzscope.com/pcs/forums/archive/index.php/t-9659.html
• forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=7750&cpage=4&limit=views
• www.buzzscope.com/pcs/forums/showthread.php?t=9659
• www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-32795.html

Replied in a section below. Shawnc 19:21, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I think it should also be added that Chuck Norris was a student of Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do (Way of the Intercepting Fist) with Bruce Lee as the instructor.

Could someone please explain to me why the info on www.cinema-resources.com/Chuck_Norris--2.html looks exactly like the bibliography on wikipedia? Is it a mirror? --Janto 14:28, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Vulturell 06:35, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification Vulturell! --Janto 11:41, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I can tell that I am going to have to revert a lot of people putting stuff from the www.4q.cc/chuck/ Chuck Norris Random Fact generator into this article. If you're one of the people doing this, please don't.  :-) Alhutch 20:19, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Yep, been going on for a while now.... hopefully it dies down, until then, its watchlist time. -Lanoitarus 20:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Doubtful Sidar 05:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

very doubtful.--Alhutch 05:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Dont take away my hope, its all I have left =) -Lanoitarus ^(talk) .:. 05:46, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

hope springs eternal!--Alhutch 06:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Why don't we put a link to the Chuck Norris Random Fact generator under external links? It seems that Chuck Norris has most recently become much more famous because of the hilarity of those facts and it seems wrong to ignore the impact that this internet meme has. At the very least, it's existence should be mentioned in a biography of Chuck Norris. Kevin143 00:48, 19 December 2005 (UTC)Kevin143

I completely agree - in fact, a few days ago I expanded a stubby reference to the page to say:

Chuck Norris is the subject of a satirical random fact generator on the internet, which features comments contributed by readers. The "facts" provided therein tend towards absurdly exaggerated claims of Norris' toughness, attitude, and virility.

This was deleted, and I didn't argue it at the time, but since then a fellow attorney (quite out of the blue) sent me the link, which I take as a sign that it's getting around. bd2412 T 04:34, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Chuck Norris acknowledges the facts and thinks they're funny himself. He acknowledges it on his personal website as well as on the Tony Danza show a couple of days ago. Here is a video: www.youtube.com/?v=QP1PuB1R-Xw

If we just put up a few of those jokes as examples, i bet the vandalism would die out. The Isiah 03:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there any source for claiming Bush said chuck norris was his favorite actor? It sounds like a joke to me... TastyCakes 00:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I've heard that mentioned other places....but I can't provide a source.--Alhutch 01:52, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I can't provide a source either, however I have heard it multiple times in the past, so even if it is unfounded, i wouldnt call it vandalism. -Lanoitarus 04:03, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I believe this is also mentioned in the George W. Bush article.--Alhutch 06:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

So if we cite George W. Bush here and cite this there, we have our citations all taken care of! =D -Lanoitarus ^t .:. 06:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

you're so resourceful!! :-)Alhutch 06:41, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

is that a joke about circular refferences or are you guys for real?

Circular references are a very important academic tools. I don't think anyone would joke about such things. TastyCakes 20:57, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually it makes perfect sense. Bush claimed that Norris and Sylvester Stallone are his favorite actors. Both men are Republicans, so it's easy to see why the President named them as his favorites.

Hall Monitor, I noticed that you added the NOEDITSECTION. I understand this supposedly helps deal with vandals, but I know it also makes it a bit harder for legitimate users to edit the article, especially those of us using Firefox, which cannot search in text boxes. Do you think the level of vandalism is really so bad as to require this extreme measure? --Cyde Weys _talk^contribs 21:28, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

It is too soon to tell. Let's give it a chance for a week and see if it makes any difference. If you wish to be able to search within text boxes using Firefox, please refer to Wikipedia:Tools/Browser_Integration#Search_within_Textarea_Extension. Best regards, Hall Monitor 21:52, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

You know much as I'm sure there'll be huge advances in what we know about Chuck Norris in the next few months, can't we just lock the article for a significant length of time until he melts back into obscurity again? This constant reverting is getting stupid. They should have a setting on Wikipedia to lock individual articles against anonymous contributors but not registered people... Or do they have one already I just don't know about? It'd be cool if there could be a setting to stop anonymous posters and registered posters with less than a certain number of edits on certain heavily vandalised pages. TastyCakes 00:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Chuck Norris is never going to melt into obscurity! And what recent events do you contend have made him such a popular target amongst vandals? As for your second question, please see Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy --Cyde Weys _talk^contribs 01:06, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Well there has been a "chuck norris facts" email that is making the rounds, that's where they all come from that I've seen. I received the email last week. It originates www.4q.cc/chuck/ here. Of course Conan O'Brian is doing his part too and that probably won't stop for a while... TastyCakes 02:15, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Out of the last 250 edits to this article, how many of them were not vandalism or reverting vandalism? Hall Monitor 23:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

the only non vandalism related edit that i can see in the last 100 is a bot adding links to other language wikipedias.--Alhutch 23:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to say if something were mentioned in the article about the cult-like following these "facts" have and put a link to them people might stop messing with it here. Maybe it won't be so cool when everyone can see it's copied from a site made by people funnier than them. But it might just encourage them. TastyCakes 23:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I have heard enough citation of the Fact Generator online and in everyday life that I was surprised to find no mention of it here; I actually read the article to see what Wikipedia would have to say about it. I definitely think the information should be included. Less noteworthy internet memes have had their mention here. --BDD 22:47, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chuck_Norris&diff=31628282&oldid=29842465 Here is a diff comparing the present article (as of 17:18 today) and 250 edits prior. Hall Monitor 17:28, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I guess the World of Warcraft crowd has assiled the page eh. Chuck Norris along with Vin Diesel and others has become quite a cult following to reasons unknown to myself. Derktar 18:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC).

I agree that the article should make some mention of the fact generator. bd2412 T 00:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

No, he was very close friends. He's mentioned for like 5 chapters in the book.

I have removed this content which I found difficult to verify:

But while the two were publicly friendly, contrary to what many (including Norris himself) state, they were not close friends. Lee had repeatedly humiliated Norris during a mock sparring session in the hotel hallway at the Long Beach International Karate Championships in 1964. And Norris had offended Lee when he publicly claimed to be a better fighter than Lee. When word got back to Lee, he called Norris and openly challenged him, threatening to drive to his school to fight (Norris was teaching his black belt class at that time). According to eye witnesses, Lee made Norris hold the phone receiver up and shout in front of his black belts, "Bruce Lee is a better fighter than me!" Later, Norris wrote an apologetic letter to Lee; the original letter is currently in the care of Lee's student, Dan Inosanto. Yet despite these conflicts, the two managed to set aside any differences in pursuit of their mutual film aspirations and develop a friendly public persona toward one another.

Interesting as it is, it is a bit surreal, and with no cited sources it shouldn't be in the article.

SpuriousQ 23:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

It SHOULD be in the article because the Bruce Lee incident is VERY Important to Chuck Norris. This is the source. www.imdb.com/name/nm0000045/board/nest/24415793. If anyone wants a source, go pay a visit to Dan Inosanto, Chuck Norris wrote an apologetic letter to Bruce Lee and the original letter is currently in the care of Bruce Lee's student, Dan Inosanto.

• That imdb link brings up an empty page for me. Also, a post on an internet message board (which this appears to be trying to link to) is not a reliable source. Also, the wikipedia article you cite has no mention of the letter you mention. -- MisterHand 15:21, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

• • The story is true. If you wants a source, go pay a visit to Dan Inosanto, he is currently teaching Jeet Kune Do classes and can be contacted. Chuck Norris wrote an apologetic letter to Bruce Lee and the original letter is currently in the care of Bruce Lee's student, Dan Inosanto.
    • That's not acceptable as a source. See WP:RS, specificially "We may not use primary sources whose information has not been made available by a credible publication.". -- MisterHand 16:15, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

• • • • The APOLOGETIC LETTER was wrote by Chuck Norris himself to Bruce Lee and the original letter is currently in the care of Bruce Lee's student, Dan Inosanto. Go pay a visit to JKD Master Dan Inosanto ALREADY. Dan Inosanto can be Contacted EASILY as he is currently teaching Jeet Kune Do classes.. Tell me when was the last time you sat down with Ted Wong and Dan Inosanto and Discussed the Topic.
        • You're missing the point. Primary sources in a Wikipedia article need to be verified via a credible publication. See WP:RS. If Inosanto or Wong mention the letter in an interview somewhere, for instance, that would be acceptable as a source. Does that make more sense? -- MisterHand 16:50, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

As per official policy, WP:V: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who has made the edit. Editors should therefore provide references. Any edit lacking a source may be removed." We as editors must remove any unsourced information that is controversial. Shawnc 17:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Since a credible publication has not been provided which states that Dan Inosanto has such a letter, I suggest that the disputed statements be removed after several days if no reference is provided by then. Shawnc 04:56, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The following story is Completely True:

At a demonstration in Long Beach, Norris met the soon to be famous Bruce Lee, who would ingrain Norris in martial arts history forever with his portrayal as Bruce Lee's nemesis in the Way of the Dragon. www.netkushi.com/articles/chuck-norris.php But while the two were publicly friendly, contrary to what many (including Norris himself) state, they were not close friends. Lee had repeatedly humiliated Norris during a mock sparring session in the hotel hallway at the Long Beach International Karate Championships in 1964. And Norris had offended Lee when he publicly claimed to be a better fighter than Lee. When word got back to Lee, he called Norris and openly challenged him, threatening to drive to his school to fight (Norris was teaching his black belt class at that time). According to eye witnesses, Lee made Norris hold the phone receiver up and shout in front of his black belts, "Bruce Lee is a better fighter than me!" Later, Norris wrote an Apologetic Letter to Lee; the original letter is currently in the care of Lee's student, Dan Inosanto. Dan Inosanto currently still owns the Letter of Apology that Chuck Norris wrote to Bruce Lee, which is in a Long Beach Dojo. Yet despite these conflicts, the two managed to set aside any differences in pursuit of their mutual film aspirations and develop a friendly public persona toward one another. www.classictvhits.com/cast.php?id=4420

If you PROOF/EVIDENCE that the story is true, then read ALL These SITES: Sources:

• www.netkushi.com/articles/chuck-norris.php
• www.classictvhits.com/cast.php?id=4420
• www.answers.com/topic/chuck-norris
• www.earwaks.com/forum/fpost42979.html
• www.gotohoroscope.com/celebrities/metal-dragon-C.html

The following sources for the Lee/Norris info are NOT a mirror of this article:

• www.buzzscope.com/pcs/forums/archive/index.php/t-9659.html
• forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=7750&cpage=4&limit=views
• www.buzzscope.com/pcs/forums/showthread.php?t=9659
• www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-32795.html

These were already posted by you (in sections above and below) and have been replied. Shawnc 21:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

There needs to be a section added about Chuck Norris, the Internet meme. We've all heard of the Chuck Norris facts.

I'm in favor of keeping the link (which was just recently removed), it's something of an internet meme, and speaks volumes about public perception regarding Chuck's celebrity status Elijya 19:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I also agree that the Chuck-Norris-internet-fact-phenomenon should be noted somehow in this article. I created a separate article for Random Chuck Norris Fact and added a link to it from this article. I hope that this will be seen as an acceptable compromise to deleting the link. Mark.howison 05:40, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

note that someone speedy deleted that article.--Alhutch 15:48, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, this internet meme has www.ytmnd.com/list/?search=chuck+norris 4+ pages of YTMNDs dedicated to it. That, and the fact that I actually sought out this article after hearing about the fad.-LtNOWIS 21:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Then discuss it legitimately in the article, don't just add a random humorous link to the external links section without an explanation. --Cyde Weys _vote^talk 21:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I feel the random "fact" generator is rather trivial and insignificant in the grand scheme of what is supposed to be a biography about Chuck Norris. A somewhat tangental discussion was recently held on the Louis Braille talk page regarding whether or not we should document in his biographical article that Google linked to his name on his birthday this week. Nonetheless, I am open to ideas — how does one propose this be noted? Hall Monitor 21:50, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

The "Chuck Norris Fact Generator" isn't unique. I saw one just like it for Vin Diesel. No need to mention it on the page. -- MisterHand 04:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Agree. It's not even a real fact generator; it's just a list of silly sentences about Chuck Norris that are served up one at a time in random order. And most of them aren't even funny. Definitely not encyclopedic. --Cyde Weys _vote^talk 04:37, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Obviously it's not a real fact generator. Anyone who thinks any of those facts are real can't be anything other than a total moron. And your opinions on whether or not it's funny are POV and irrelevant. There are, in fact, three of these generators: Chuck Norris, Mr. T, and Vin Diesel, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a widespread internet meme and should be noted in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.147.148.118 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, that it is a widespread meme and "should be noted" is also a matter of opinion, one which not everyone agrees with. What we are now discussing is how to accomplishing giving this trivial piece of information note, if at all. Hall Monitor 20:25, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Not knowing that this heated discussion was occuring, and being relatively new to editing articles, I went ahead and took the intiative to add a small section about the memes in the trivia section. I think that just the mention that there is a meme about Mr. Norris is not a matter of opinion and is factual. It may be useless, but that's why it's in the trivia section. noah 06:37, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Chuck Norris addresses the random facts on his website. www.chucknorris.com/html/events.aspx Kevin143 01:01, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

• Already noted in the article -- MisterHand (talk · contribs),

Chuck Norris thinks they are humorous: www.youtube.com/?v=QP1PuB1R-Xw

It's a cultural phenomenon. I say it is definetly fit for inclusion.

I Think its important to list the Chuck Norris Facts. While not actual facts, they do provide pretty good satire and they should be represented as an internet meme. --Shaun1018 04:39, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

No more crap about Chuck Norris, its just not funny anymore. I really think people need to start realizing that! Insaneassassin247 18:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello there. I own and operate www.4q.cc, which is the original Chuck Norris Fact Generator (www.4q.cc/chuck). Since the article is locked, I kindly request an administrator or whoever that the link to www.chucknorrisfacts.com be removed as they have simply stolen my content and are promoting it without my permission. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.16.27.148 (talk • contribs) .

From the "facts" article: Chuck Norris Facts were originally seen on IRC, and on websites like the Something Awful forums, in Spring 2005. While your site might be the original random fact generator, I don't think that the facts themselves are "owned" by anyone; it appears that they were a collaborative effort by anonymous and disparate individuals. OhnoitsJamie^Talk 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Agree with OhnoitsJamie^Talk. 4q.cc is just a bunch of quotes collected from other places. From this interview with Ian Spector of 4q, about his "generator" websites: "Although Ian Spector maintains the site, approximately 90% of the "facts" are contributed by visitors – most of whom are either college students or stuck in a cubicle ... The website was spawned from a discussion thread on the massively popular internet forum, SomethingAwful.com" www.upstagemagazine.com/articles/getarticle-new.php?ID=1549 Tomservo3000 03:52, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I also agree with Ohnoitsjamie, however what site should be linked? Apparently the whois records of the sites show that 4q.cc was the original, so should it then be linked over the newer chucknorrisfacts.com? Still if it's essentially quotes copied from the somethingawful forums, then it probably just comes down to a matter of what site's easier and more helpful to the reader- probably what's listed right now, chucknorrisfacts.com. Ian's left me a message on my talk page and I told him we should keep the discussion here. Mrtea (talk) 07:04, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Agree with Mrtea. It appears that the WHOIS "created date" of chucknorrisfacts.com may not be accurate. It is possible the chucknorrisfacts.com address was transferred from another domain registrar and the date was "reset". If you check the WHOIS of a "copycat" site (chucknorrisfacts.net), it shows a created date several weeks "earlier" than chucknorrisfacts.com. It doesn't seem logical that someone would register the .net over the .com address. There's discussion of this subject here forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=15554 Hamilton burr 08:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I came to this site after googling to try to find out why all these wacky chuck norris references are popping up everywhere lately. I would be grateful if someone could explain what it is about and how how this all started.

Having personally witnessed the thread that spawned the Chuck Norris Facts (NOT on SomethingAwful, but LUElinks, I can confirm that 4q.cc is the original site. 65.68.145.113 02:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Lotsofissues , Prove These Points first before Writing ANYTHING. Try harder to counter the sources listed below. Cite your sources.

Sources about Bruce Lee humiliating Chuck Norris The following story is Completely True: At a demonstration in Long Beach, Norris met the soon to be famous Bruce Lee, who would ingrain Norris in martial arts history forever with his portrayal as Bruce Lee's nemesis in the Way of the Dragon.

Sources for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Beach_International_Karate_Championships

www.netkushi.com/articles/chuck-norris.php But while the two were publicly friendly, contrary to what many (including Norris himself) state, they were not close friends. Lee had repeatedly humiliated Norris during a mock sparring session in the hotel hallway at the Long Beach International Karate Championships in 1964. And Norris had offended Lee when he publicly claimed to be a better fighter than Lee. When word got back to Lee, he called Norris and openly challenged him, threatening to drive to his school to fight (Norris was teaching his black belt class at that time). According to eye witnesses, Lee made Norris hold the phone receiver up and shout in front of his black belts, "Bruce Lee is a better fighter than me!" Later, Norris wrote an Apologetic Letter to Lee; the original letter is currently in the care of Lee's student, Dan Inosanto. Dan Inosanto currently still owns the Letter of Apology that Chuck Norris wrote to Bruce Lee, which is in a Long Beach Dojo. Yet despite these conflicts, the two managed to set aside any differences in pursuit of their mutual film aspirations and develop a friendly public persona toward one another. www.classictvhits.com/cast.php?id=4420

If you PROOF that the story is true, then read ALL These SITES: Sources:

• www.netkushi.com/articles/chuck-norris.php

  That is a mirror of this article.

• www.classictvhits.com/cast.php?id=4420

  That is a mirror of this article.

• www.answers.com/topic/chuck-norris

  That is a mirror of this article.

• www.earwaks.com/forum/fpost42979.html

  That is an internet chat room. Wikipedia:Verifiability#Dubious_sources: "Personal websites and blogs are not acceptable as sources"

• www.gotohoroscope.com/celebrities/metal-dragon-C.html

  That page is down.

The following sources for the Lee/Norris info are NOT a mirror of this article:

• www.buzzscope.com/pcs/forums/archive/index.php/t-9659.html

  That is a chat room.

• forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=7750&cpage=4&limit=views

  Chat room.

• www.buzzscope.com/pcs/forums/showthread.php?t=9659

  Same as previous page.

• www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-32795.html

  Chat room.

• www.epinions.com/mvie-review-AD4-13332B4E-38F9C82A-prod3

  Movie review.

All of these are dubious sources, which you already posted above. Also, please sign your posts on talk pages. Shawnc 19:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

This page is being vandalized 10 times a day. Lotsofissues 21:17, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

• Agreed. All the kiddies who think it's hilarious to cut and paste from the "Chuck Norris Random Fact Generator" are becoming a bit tiresome. -- MisterHand 18:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
• To quote Something Awful

"Haha! Chuck Norris! You see, it's funny because CHUCK NORRIS! Hey, I hear Chuck Norris drove a car into a wall and it exploded but he jumped out at the last second and drop kicked a thug on his way out because he's CHUCK FUCKING NORRIS HAHAHAHA!! Someone hurry up and make a website about Chuck Norris facts because this is never going to get old! NEVER!!!" www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3492&p=3

-- MacAddct1984 21:42, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

• Once again, due to vandalism, this article has been semi-protected for a temporary period of time. If you are a newly registered user with an account less than four days old, please discuss changes here on this talk page or request unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Current_requests_for_unprotection. Best regards, Hall Monitor 23:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Conan O'Brien has been doing a very funny Walker, Texas Ranger segment on his show. This deserves a mention. (removed video links that have been removed) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.184.204.131 (talk • contribs) .

• Already mentioned in the article. -- MisterHand 20:15, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/02/AR2006010200282.html Read

"Steve McQueen (a former Norris martial-arts student)?"

The son of McQueen attended Norris's classes but that was left uncorrected in this article until Jan 8.

Lotsofissues 06:09, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

serves em right for not checking facts!--Alhutch 06:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

the vandalism was getting crazy so i semi-protected.--Alhutch 18:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

don't intend to leave it on too long.--Alhutch 18:51, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

protection is off.--Alhutch 20:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I have found the site that has been responsible for the recent vandalism:boards.ign.com/Message.aspx?topic=108216959&brd=5296&start=108245640

wow, unbelievable. I did notice a great surge in anon vandalism today, and I was wondering if it was a coordinated effort from an outside website. Still, this is rather surprising.--Alhutch 00:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I re-semi-protected. This "Chuck Norris Facts" stuff is getting a bit out of hand. -R. fiend 19:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Very good decision. It's been a big blip on the radar today. PJM 19:58, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree with the disambiguation header, as they're meant only for things with the same or confusingly very similar titles. Having it for Chuck Norris Facts is like having a dab header at Manhattan for Manhattan Murder Mystery. If more prominent link to the "facts" article is needed we should look at an elegant way of moving it up towards the beginning of the article. Dab headers liek this are a real stretch and a bad precedent. -R. fiend 03:37, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

• I agree with the above. I'm changing it per WP:BB and putting the link in the "see also" section instead. Any problems with this, bring them up here or let me know or change it back :) -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 08:02, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

This isn't anywhere near prominent enough.

• Most people look for the jokes
• Most people have no idea where the article about the jokes is, so check Chuck Norris

So if not in the otheruses, it should be in the intro paragraph. Taw 10:07, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

• Intro paragraph might be okay, if it can be worked into the prose elegantly, rather than haphazardly chucked in there (no pun intended). It is, however, not ideal. I'm not sure why you assume most people are looking for the facts. Most vandals clearly are, but that's a different thing entirely. We should keep in mind that we have a repected (I guess) actor who's been in movies and TV shows for decades (mostly bad, but still), and who has been honored with various awards. The "Facts" is a recent fad that will likely soon fade. I think we run the danger of stressing them too much, as an encyclopedia. -R. fiend 18:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

  I could not agree more. The "facts" might deserve mention in passing here, but in the grand scheme of things, they are largely irrelevant to Chuck Norris as a person (and his biographical article). The granular details of the meme should be worked out in Chuck Norris Facts, not here. Best regards, Hall Monitor 18:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I've once again semi-protected this, as the "Chuck Norris Facts" keep coming. Sorry Splash, but your claim that it's been protected long enough to deter simple vandalism just doesn't seem to be the case. I'm suspecting this will have to remain semi-protected until the Chuck Norris Facts fad dies down. -R. fiend 22:44, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

There were only two incidences of vandalism in the three hours after Splash unprotected. That's nothing compared to the way it was before. I think we should unprotect, since protection is supposed to be used sparingly. This is hardly anything we can't deal with by reverting and blocking right now.--Alhutch 22:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Two in three hours is still quite a bit, and I didn't see any indication that it was about to improve. Established users can still edit the article, in fact, if you only need an account for 4 days, probably quite a few vandals can too. -R. fiend 22:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at the protection policy, if you would. It's only supposed to be used for persisent vandalism. Two in three hours is really not that persistent. Especially after this page was targeted by IGN people earlier. sorry, i don't think there's a real need for protection.--Alhutch 23:02, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll remove the sprotection, if only as an experiment to see how many times the page is vandalized. If the vandalism is heavy, I will resprotect it. -R. fiend 23:28, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

good good.--Alhutch 00:07, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't want to jinx it, but things look good on the vandalism front so far.--Alhutch 00:53, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I count 4 since unprotection, which isn't tons, but it's far more than most articles get. How many in 24 hours constitutes "persistent"? -R. fiend 14:51, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Two hours later, it's over ten more. Time to re-sprotect? -R. fiend 16:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I didn't keep score when IGN ws hammering away, but that sounds like a pretty persistent rate of vandalism. A tag is probably justified, at least for a while to let things simmer. ZZ 17:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd also agree with the protection, but I don't think things are going to simmer down any time soon. Mrtea (talk) 18:04, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's been what in my mind amounts to unacceptable levels of vandalism here. Any objections to more semi-protection? -R. fiend 18:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

The article has been reprotected (semi). Please remove protection after a reasonable period of time. Best regards, Hall Monitor 18:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

no objections here. vandals don't deserve the privilege of editing wikipedia.--Alhutch 18:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

He's not just an actor, and a martial artist, he's also a USAF veteran and that should be clearly noted at the top of the page. That is in some ways more important than his acting or martial arts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.48.221.23 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 2 February 2006.

I think we should have stuff about his cartoon Tv show/comic

-I second that,anyone have more info?

-Only that it's back in syndication on Adult Swim, thanks to the internet meme's popularity.

-I second that too.

Maybe someone should just include the link to it? [1]--Cardcaptorclaire 17:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. There's a link to that page under Pop Culture already.

I had to move this up to FP since several vandals found a way around SP. *sigh* --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 08:20, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Is it necessary? Can't we just block all the accounts that vandalize the page? -R. fiend 17:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

I've got to agree on the question of "is it necessary"? Can't the line for accounts being able to edit a semi-protected page be set towards older accounts, and treat vandals with no mercy? --Wingsandsword 18:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken, the three choices for protection allow for edits by: 1) admins only, 2) registered accounts at least 4 days old, or 3) anyone. I don't think there's a way to change it from 4 days to, say 2 weeks or anything (not without major changes that admins can't do). Option 2 gets rid of the anons (the worst offenders) but it doesn't take long for an account to age 4 days. I think semi-protection and blocking vandals (maybe even indefinitely in the cases where the account was made for the sole purpose of vandalism) is the way to go. -R. fiend 19:33, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

1. Add interwiki to pt:Chuck Norris. Tomer^talk 04:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

He co-wrote his second autobiography last year, and co-wrote a fiction novel this year. Someone with the capabilities to supercede the restrictions should put this information in his bio. www.amazon.com/gp/search/104-6058056-8007967?search-alias=aps&keywords=Chuck%20Norris| Chuck Norris at Amazon.com. JesseRafe 05:25, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, the following sentence should be moved to an other section, since it has nothing to do with Norris' rise to fame: "In 1970, his younger brother Weiland was killed in Vietnam. Norris later dedicated his Missing in Action films to his brother's memory." PJ 09:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Is there a way to get a better picture of Chuck in here? I can barely recognize him. There has to be a publicity photo or something that can be used... - JustinWick 22:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I never thought that was such a great picture. I'll look into it.--Alhutch 00:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I think the article should mention something about Norris' religosity and community work... not something you'd nimmediately associate with a martial arts star.

1. Sign your comments.

2. You're right.

3. Chuck Norris facts are getting really old really fast. --RockyMM 12:47, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I move that this page be demoted to semi-protection as pretty much all of the vandalism was by anonymous users, and we shouldn't cut off registered users from editing unless we really need to. --Cyde Weys 23:22, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree. As of now the page is non-protected, which I don't think is such a good idea either. The "Facts" vandals have not left. I think semi-protection is the best course. -R. fiend 21:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

The beginning of the section about his early career seems to imply that he has a black belt in Brazilian Ju Jitsu. According to the official BJJ web site, www.bjj.org, chuck is a brown belt under Carlos Machado ( www.bjj.org/a/people/machado-carlos.html ). This should be included, or reworded so a black belt is not implied. 67.163.246.99 23:07, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Not only that, but there -is- no black belt in Tang Soo Do, only midnight blue, as one progresses from the 'Gup's (A white belt is 10th Gup - Red Belt with two stripes is 1st Gup) to the 'Dan's (A newly tested-in Midnight Blue belt is 1st Dan. The founding Grandmaster, Hwang Kee, is 9th). It sounds trivial, but one of the reasons Master Kee chose the color blue was because of the symbolism behind it (not only the autumn of one's life, but also the calm, inner peace of one who has truly mastered martial arts). He felt that Black not only represented death, but also perfection, and so shunned said color. Since merely mentioning that I am a 4th gup does not satisfy, here's a link to the Tang Soo Do Education Area: www.tsdmgk.com/educationpage.htm#BeltRankingSystem . DoctahLove 06:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

According to WP:DAB:

• "When there is no risk of confusion, do not disambiguate, or add a link to a disambiguation page."
• "Lists of articles of which the disambiguated term forms only a part of the article title don't belong here."

Since, realistically, one will arrive at Chuck Norris looking for information about him, and the "Chuck Norris facts" are mentioned later on the page, I've removed the disambiguation notice. æle ✆ 02:49, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I think it is. But more importantly, for such a high traffic entry, it's an attractive waste dump. The trivia--not too interesting stuff--will just build up until the article is a mess. I am going to remove the section and merge a couple of facts. Objections??

Lotsofissues 19:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Trivia sections almost always are. If those facts are important they should be worked into the body of the article. -R. fiend 06:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I've once again semi-protected the article. No end of vandalism in sight. -R. fiend 19:49, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

This article has been reprotected with semi-protection yet again. Best regards, Hall Monitor 19:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that the main article needs any (let alone two) examples of "Chuck Norris Facts." There is already a mention of the meme and a link to the entry. I see the inclusion of "facts" in the main article as a concession to the vandals. Thoughts? OhNoitsJamie^Talk 18:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that a big reason the article is so popular is because of the recent facts fad, so it's rather relevant to the topic. Perhaps two is excessive, one would probably suffice to demonstrate the idea. Serlin 18:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

The only reason some editors want this included is because it is Popular Right Now. We are writing an encyclopedia, not a list of things that are currently funny on the internet. Monkeyman^(talk) 18:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

The Macarena was a fad. Let's delete that page, too! -Nathew 15:09, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Not needed; examples can be found in Chuck Norris Facts. I also roundhouse-kicked removed a crufty bit about the SA forums. android79 20:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I would support having a fact or two on there if it stopped the vandals, but it doesn't, so it's not appropriate for the article. -- MisterHand 20:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that there should be one example in the article, enough to interest people that have not heard of the meme to continue reading.--RockyMM 12:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that there should Bold textdefinitelyBold text be several examples of Chuck Norris "Facts" in this article. Obviously not all of the hundreds that exist, but maybe a short list of 5-10. That would serve as a good example of what there Chuck Norris "Facts" are like, and would entice people to check out the other links if they want to know more. If people only see one example, then they might not understand the jokes that well. By the way, happy birthday to Chuck Norris, who turns 66 today! --Mike 03:15, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Why do a few people seem to think that it's important for readers to follow the facts link? This isn't the 10 o'clock news. OhNoitsJamie^Talk 19:36, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I asked this question on the Frank Norris discussion page, but it's probably better addressed here--can someone verify the claim made that Chuck is the nephew of the novelist? I can find nothing outside of Wikipedia to support this. A Runyon 18:55, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Edited to remove the "facts" someone tacked onto my earlier comment-- A Runyon 08:09, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

According to The Biography Channel, Chuck Norris' mother was Irish, not Navajo as claimed in this article: www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_story/1706:2082/1/Chuck_Norris.htm

Yeah, both his parents were half Irish and half Cherokee, according to his autobiography, Against All Odds: My Story. I edited the page accordingly.

Why did you guys taking the jokes off. If you left them on in the talk page less people would vandalise the real page The Isiah 18:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

It's pretty easy to revert vandalism. If the vandalism rate spikes, we just semi-protect the page. The jokes do not belong on the main page for the same reason that we don't put Bush or Clinton jokes on their respective articles. OhNoitsJamie^Talk 16:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I noticed someone messing with this site, I fixed that right up.

OK! :-) --Andeh 09:13, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Are people trying to keep the article short or can this go? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick#Roundhouse_kick says the roundhouse kick is chuck's favorite attack. DyslexicEditor 02:48, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, this "fact" pops up frequently in the context of the Chuck Norris Facts meme (i.e., that he roundhouse kicked the devil, or God, or a cow). bd2412 T 02:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but should it go in this article? DyslexicEditor 06:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Definitly NOT!!! I have removed it! --RockyMM 21:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not objecting so much as would like to know why. Also the kick article has a see also to chuck norris that's still there. In my opinion mentioning norris's favorite martial arts moves if any where would belong here more than kick. DyslexicEditor 03:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I used to train with Pat Burleson, a contemporary of Allan Steen. Back in Norris' tournament days, he was noted for throwing rapid punch combinations (known as the "blitz punch") in a time when most competitors relied on single-shot power attacks. While he did like the head-high roundhouse in movies because it's flashy, it's not what he used in tournaments - head kicks are too easily blocked. (Anecdotal evidence, I know, which is why I wouldn't add it to the article). --Jamoche 04:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

There is no reference to Uncyclopedia in the Pop Culture section Fatalserpent 21:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Between "Beginnings" and "Walker, Texas Ranger" there seems to be a big gap of missing info. The Walker section refers to "Cannon Films" so presumably the missing section details that company and Norris' relationship to it. Anyone have that info? Did it get deleted by a vandal? rhmoore 16:18, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes it apparently got lost in vandalism a while ago, it's restored now. - Bobet 22:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

It is very unprofessional to use the name "Chuck" (which is a nickname nonetheless) as a primary reference to his name. Should be replaced with "Norris", like other articles. Colonel Marksman 14:57, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

• You are correct. Be bold. -- MisterHand 15:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

He the man

It says on the Southern Baptist page that Chuck Norris is a Southern http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_baptist#Prominent_Southern_Baptists I won't add it, but if someone else would like to do so, they are free to. 70.153.82.3 00:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Chuck Norris is a god on World of Warcraft. (Or is it just the Draka server?) Should that be mentioned?

No. If you want to mention that, it should go into the World of Warcraft wikipedia article. --JRavn 15:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

There is also a punk/thrash band called chuck norris based in Vancouver Canada.. They have a s/t 7" put out by distorted riffs in vancouver—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chuck norris (talk • contribs) 22:22, February 2, 2006.

I love Mr. Norris as much as the next guy, but this article is in need of some references. Did he really teach martial arts to Bob Barker? Bburton

Yes, he did. He tells about it in his autobiography.

Quite a few films are missing, and need adding when this page is unprotected.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.69.63.239 (talk • contribs) 01:51, December 9, 2005.

That's an understatement. There's a good 10 or 15 films missing. Including my favorite one, Delta Force 2: The Colombian Connection. How could you miss that one, seriously.

Here's a list of all his work (as an ACTOR):

The Cutter (2005) .... John Shepherd

Walker, Texas Ranger: Trial by Fire (2005) (TV)

Bells of Innocence (2003)

The President's Man: A Line in the Sand (2002) (TV

"Walker, Texas Ranger" .... Cordell "Cord" Walker

   - The Final Showdown: Part 1 (2001) TV Episode .... Cordell "Cord" Walker
   - The Final Showdown: Part 2 (2001) TV Episode .... Cordell "Cord" Walker
   - A Matter of Principle (2000) TV Episode .... Cordell "Cord" Walker
   - Way of the Warrior (1999) TV Episode .... Cordell "Cord" Walker
   - In Harm's Way: Part 2 (1999) TV Episode .... Cordell "Cord" Walker
     (4 more)

The President's Man (2000) (TV)

"Martial Law"

   - Honor Among Strangers (2000) TV Episode

"Sons of Thunder"

   - Thunder by Your Side (1999) TV Episode .... Ranger Cordell Walker
   - Lost & Found (1999) TV Episode .... Ranger Cordell Walker
   - Fighting Back (1999) TV Episode .... Ranger Cordell Walker
   - Moment of Truth (1999) TV Episode .... Ranger Cordell Walker

Logan's War: Bound by Honor (1998) (TV) .... Jake Fallon

Forest Warrior (1996)

Top Dog (1995)

Hellbound (1994)

Walker Texas Ranger 3: Deadly Reunion (1994)

Wind in the Wire (1993) (TV)

Sidekicks (1992) .... Chuck Norris

"De tú a tú"

   - Episode dated 26 March 1992 (1992) TV Episode 

The Hitman (1991/I)

Delta Force 2: The Colombian Connection (1990)

Hero and the Terror (1988)

Braddock: Missing in Action III (1988)

Firewalker (1986)

The Delta Force (1986)

Invasion U.S.A. (1985)

Code of Silence (1985)

Missing in Action 2: The Beginning (1985)

Missing in Action (1984)

Lone Wolf McQuade (1983)

Forced Vengeance (1982)

Silent Rage (1982)

An Eye for an Eye (1981)

The Octagon (1980

A Force of One (1979)

Good Guys Wear Black (1978)

Breaker! Breaker! (1977)

Slaughter in San Francisco (1974)

The Student Teachers (1973)

Way of the Dragon (1972) .... Colt

The Wrecking Crew (1969)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.230.34.200 (talk • contribs) 22:53, February 22, 2006.

The random fact generator isn't a really a parody. I'd call it more of a homage. Chuck Norris is freakin' awesome.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.37.91.112 (talk • contribs) 02:22, January 16, 2006.

Has a bad translated 'Chuck Norris Facts' in the Chuck Norris article, it even claims that the site is the source of the jokes.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.97.184.252 (talk • contribs) 21:03, February 4, 2006.

This is a serious inquiry, I'm not trying to make a joke about his beard or anything else similar to the "facts" going around right now.

I seem to remember watching a television program a few years back that said he was injured during one of his films and ended up with scarring on his chin and/or lip and that's why he wears a beard. I notice nothing about this in the article, did that happen, or is my memory just terrible?

- WAR32978 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.106.207.156 (talk • contribs) 16:26, February 15, 2006.

On the photo of him in the infomercial, the words below him say it is a commercial. That needs correcting.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 164.113.8.13 (talk • contribs) 15:42, April 13, 2006.

The thing most people are looking for when coming here is certainly Chuck Norris Facts. If it is prominently linked, the readers will get what they want, and there will be less vandalism of this page. Please do not remove the link, at least for the next few weeks. Taw 15:41, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree whole-heartedly. I personally know several people who have gotten several IP addresses at my school banned through repeated vandalism of this page, and editing Chuck into other articles as well. Ok, so I was one of them. But we have been collectively appeased by the acknowledgement of the the facts in the Popular Culture section, or whatever that is. My vote is keep it the way it is right now; if anything, give more recognition to it, but certainly not less. As noted above, this will probably do a lot to prevent vandalism.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.96.34.11 (talk • contribs) 03:15, January 26, 2006.

While the flash movie was rather amusing, at best it deserve only a brief mention under something like the internet phenomenon. It certainly doesn't warrant a list of all the hypothetical people 'assembled to defeat him'. This kind of joking around is best saved for Chuck Norris fan forums. Gerbilkit (talk) 20:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Chuck Norrie == insult Navasota is in East Texas, outside of Houston. The Lone Wolf Ranch is outside of Navasota. It is a beauty and everyone in the area gives him peach and quiet and the respect that he deserves. Littlefatponies (talk) 04:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Pamela Alell

Was his only training for tournament karate the skills he learned in South Korea? I thought generally the article does not make clear enough how he developed his skills. If I have time I might come back to edit this but just wanted to raise the issue in case someone else wanted to work on this who already knows what's up. Thanks. Andropod (talk) 14:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC) Also, Chuck norris is feared by all. if you have the Google toolbar, click on it, then press enter. You should now see the "search" and "i'm feelin' lucky" buttons at the bottom of the bar. type "google Chuck Norris" then press "I'm feelin' lucky" It's so funny! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SelenaxDemixLovexU (talk • contribs) 22:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I recently saw a new CN joke book written, of all people, by two rabbis in Jerusalem. http://www..com/content/848937 Maybe that belongs under "Chuck Norris in Popular Culture."

Maddsquid (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

What does "AP" stand for? -62.219.97.252 (talk) 20:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

"Air Police" military police in the Air Force —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.77.67 (talk) 21:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Should the article be protected? It seems like almost half of all the edits are vandalisms —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.131.107.252 (talk) 22:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Surely Chuck Norris needs no protection?--91.84.84.234 (talk) 21:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

chuck norris once visited the virgin islands...now they are called just islands!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.101.81.214 (talk) 02:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001569/bio

Although conservapedia mentions this, but I'm trying to find a good cite that shows Chuck being highly critical to evolution. Can anyone say if this is legit?Dark paladin x (talk) 14:40, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Note the caption in the first photo. I would fix it, but the page is locked. 128.174.26.21 (talk) 13:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I was at Liberty University this past weekend when he gave the commencement speech, which was absolutely epic, anyway, Falwell Jr. gave him an honorary doctorate, so he's now Doctor Carlos Ray "Chuck" Norris. I think that's worth mentioning. This is exactly what Liberty University's web page said:

"LU Chancellor and President Jerry Falwell Jr. said this was a first for LU: “Today is historic because it is the first commencement address at Liberty that will be delivered in cowboy boots.”

Carlos Ray Norris, who is most known for his good-guy role defending justice on TV’s Walker, Texas Ranger, then received an honorary degree, Doctorate of Humanities, from Liberty."

All the information, and more, can be found at this link on Liberty's official website: https://www.liberty.edu/libertyjournal/index.cfm?PID=16046&artid=185

and here's a picture someone from the graduating class got of him on the stage with his robes on: http://www.flickr.com/photos/epicreflection/2490268522/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Farrella23 (talk • contribs) 07:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

--190.95.22.190 (talk) 21:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

chuck norris was an undefeated karate champion and joe louis was a boxer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.71.125 (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey genius, Joe Lewis is a different spelling and different person from Joe Louis. Joe Lewis is a professional martial artist. Joe Louis was "the Brown Bomber," a professional boxer.

Considering Chuck Norris is/was a professional fighter. There should be a listing of his physical stats. Height, weight etc. Chuck Norris as simply an actor i understand why they may or may not be listed. But considering he began and was primarily a professional fight... these shats should be listed.

I'm not talking about now, just during his fight career.

Your thoughts on this? Ga1lyons (talk) 05:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

CHUCK NORRIS IS A GANGSTA!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SlimJimAssassin (talk • contribs) 21:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah like Chuck Norris with a beebee gun. Lol!--98.183.183.210 (talk) 05:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

With a few web searches I couldn't turn up any reference to his birth name including a Jr. that seemed to be independent of and more reliable than Wikipedia. Also, in his autobiography [2] he says his father's name is Ray, and the genealogy link [3] someone has in this discussion page says it's Ray D. Norris. Also, his father being Carlos and he being Jr. is inconsistent with him being named after his minister, which he also says in his autobiography. So I changed it. Also, both the cited NYT article and his book spell his brother's name Wieland. Zander (talk) 01:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Astrodatabank.com quotes his autobiography for March 10, 1942?? Can someone source the 1940 date? --Nathanael Bar-Aur L. (talk) 21:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Under Personal Life, after detailing how he had a child out of wedlock the following quote shows up:

"Norris has always been a very loving family man"

Which uses a People magazine article of him hugging his adult sons as evidence.

This seems to be pretty weak evidence for this assertion.

Fisrt, please use the four tilde thing ~~~~ to sign your posts. It's easier to refer to someone when there's a someone to refer to. Second, I'm not sure what is the problem. Are you saying that having children out of wedlock demeans the "family man" comment? Or that hugging his son is not enough proof? I'm not sure the picture is there to provide proof for the statement (that would be OR and should be eliminated if that's the case). If you don't believe the statement then place a {{fact}} tag on it and see what turns up. If you could explain more clearly what the problem is maybe I could help further. padillaH ^{(review me)}_{(help me)} 18:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

NInja don't have beards like that. I vote pirate. Please either fix this reference or remove it completely. 67.160.204.59 (talk) 00:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC) chuck norris is a ninja —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.144.204.153 (talk) 20:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Posts from various forums are saying that Chuck Norris opened his ranch for Ike refugees. Can anyone confirm if this is true? I couldn't find anything on Google News, so I'm inclined to believe that this is a hoax. Ike is far too overpowerd in Super Smash Bros Brawl, those poor victims need his help. --Ixfd64 (talk) 09:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I've noticed this when you click on any links from the site listed as his official site

What happened when Google visited this site?

Of the 84 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 21 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2009-07-28, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-07-27.

   Malicious software includes 54 scripting exploit(s), 2 exploit(s).

   Malicious software is hosted on 2 domain(s), including hapt03.cn/, a0v.org/.

   1 domain(s) appear to be functioning as intermediaries for distributing malware to visitors of this site, including a0v.org/.

   This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS7296 (ALCHEMYNET).

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=&hl=en-US&site=http://www.chucknorris.com/html/mission.htmlAsd54asd (talk) 16:18, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== The ancestry of Carlos Ray Norris, A.K.A. "Chuck Norris" ==a.k.a your worst nightmare times TEN squared. (with a beard)

I've posted my work based research done with Ancestry.com's resources, and various other sources. It is my hope that others can use this as a starting point for their own Norris family research.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=14x24&id=I0001

I've deleted the last 2 item from Norris' fight record. I can found no evidence that chuck norris ate a man they occurred. No references for them are given in the article, and they are not mentioned in his autobiography, Against All Odds, My Story or at Chuck Norris' fighting record. Feel free to put them back in if you can find some information about the events. Tim Ross (talk) 09:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Officially he's 5'11" but in fact he's more like 5'10" from what I could tell. Smells of a shite! His height is an issue because he's an inspiration for tiny little cute guys everywhere. They can live the life of massive impressive physical speciments if they can actually get away with it. Perhaps there should be an entry on people whose vision prevents them from correctly judging people's heights or reading a measuring tape. --Megaforcemedia (talk) 15:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

No he's really 5'11", and so was Rocky Marciano, so it's officially the bad-assest height there is.

Norris was 5'8" at his peak, he has always worn built-up shoes. (92.8.233.79 (talk) 20:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

He is 5'10" I worked out with him in barefeet. I am 5'9 1/2 He is just slightly taller.

He is 5'7". he says he's 5'11 but i think he's more like 5'10 also —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.215.46 (talk) 16:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the above poster. Definitely 5'7"/5'11"/5'10" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.175.116.35 (talk) 01:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

In the Political Views section: "Chuck Norris supports gun rights and ownership, and is against public schools condoning homosexuality." This last part (bolded) is bizarrely-phrased and not particularly note-worthy or useful. Perhaps his opposition to homosexuality would be more appropriate here - "aberrant sexual behavior" ([http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59697]). ~~

Could you also edit out "the" in the section on Norris sending a letter to Obama not to follow other presidents. It seems to indicate all other presidents supported the pro-abortion stance of Clinton and Obama. This is not the case. It would make it more clear to state "other democratic Presidents" as all republican Presidents have not supported the public financing of abortions since Roe. notoadultery 20:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC) Here's a cite:

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Illustrative Reference: Prospective Secessionist Views '

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/94248/Chuck_Norris_Texas_secessionist

“In what could be the most egregious misuse of his Chuck Norris powers” since he endorsed Mike Huckabee, said Edward Ericson Jr. in the Baltimore City Paper, the martial artist and TV star suggested that Texas was ripe to secede from the union, that he ‘may run for President’ of the Republic of Texas, and that there are thousands of “right-wing ‘cells’” ready to follow radio host Glen Beck’s marching orders. The need to secede “may be a reality sooner than we think,” said Chuck Norris in Townhall. My president-of-Texas quip was tongue-in-cheek, but the idea behind it isn’t. Washington is “moving farther and farther from its Founders’ vision and government,” and the people won’t stand for it. And Texas—it’s own republic from 1836 to 1846—is the logical place to make a stand.

<a href="http://www.nochucknorris.com" title="Chuck Norris">Chuck Norris</a>

--Ihaveabutt (talk) 01:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Outspoken Christian, so the Catgeory:American Christians applies. 67.77.70.21 (talk) 19:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The link to Nakamura is wrong, pointing to a totally different person. There is no entry for Nakamura the karateka. And as I know, but I might be wrong, Noris did not beat Nakamura, the game was a tie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.7.147.61 (talk) 03:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

sorry, i was confused, he defeated Nakamura, but the link is still wrong :D some moderator can cut it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.7.147.61 (talk) 03:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

should we have a category to discuss his numerous plastic surgeries? assuming it is all well sourced of course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.233.178.254 (talk) 23:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

No I think that would be to trivial. Unless it has caused a degree of controversy.--Misortie (talk) 23:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Misortie; this would open the floodgates to listing all the alleged plastic surgeries celebrities have undergone in their respective articles. Better leave them out here.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

I just added a section that mentions Chuck's advertising of Total Fitness, with Christie Brinkley. These are a long-running and popular series of infomercials, and deserve a mention, but it didn't seem to fit into any existing sections. I don't know if Chuck has done any other product endorsements of note.

I also did a little bit of reorganizing the political section, moving the WND blurb there, and making it a little more chronological. EJSawyer (talk) 18:54, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Mario Ivanov [Source 92] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.139.6 (talk) 21:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Two.. That I see, that have not been noted are "The Presidents Man" & "The Presidents Man 2" I found these two movies entertaining enough to have made a successful series of. Equivilent to "The Human Target" on Hulu.com in many ways. I see these two as the best shows he has made thus far. In my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimoerike (talk • contribs) 14:13, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

www.activebass.com/resources/review.asp?i=4521 shows comments from 2002 with Chuck facts. Clearly 2005 was not the start of the Chuck-facts. Anonymous Coward 118.219.230.10 (talk) 16:19, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Chuck Norris' Wikipedia page needs mention of Chuck Norris jokes. It would be like the Rick Astley page not mentioning Rick Rolling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.90.24 (talk) 05:25, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Have you READ the article? Or did you just look at the contents box? The second paragraph talks about it and provides a wikilink to the separate article on it. Niteshift36 (talk) 06:05, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Chuck Norris CAN believe it's not butter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.6.242.59 (talk) 22:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

So, why is there no mention of Late Night with Conan O'Brien? The show may not have been the origin of the jokes, but it is most certainly a huge contributing factor to the mainstream popularity and recognition that the joke series has attained. 98.117.65.60 (talk) 22:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

The governemtn once tried to make the world a better place by cloaning Titus, the result was Chuck Norris. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.170.209.106 (talk) 16:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I have semi-protected this page for 1 hr. due to the standard attempts to deify Norris. —Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Dittobori)} 00:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

edited out because it took me a while to relate conservative and republian - DUMB! and i am not from the US.. so..

According to this article, Chuck have a very interesting family tree.

"Norris paternal grandfather (an immigrant) and maternal grandmother were of Irish descent, while his paternal grandmother and maternal grandfather were Cherokee Native Americans."

What are the odds that both his paternal and maternal grandparents are made up of one Irish and one Cherokee in perfect symmetry. :)

This little diagram show what the article describes : The Chuck family tree —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.67.141 (talk) 00:30, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, that's what he says in his autobigraphy, but it is somewhat unusual: "Genetically speaking, I am equal parts Irish and Native American. On the Norris side, my paternal grandfather was Irish, and my paternal grandmother was a full-blooded Cherokee Indian. My mother's family name was Scarberry. My maternal grandmother, Agnes, was Irish, while my maternal grandfather was a Cherokee Indian from Kentucky. " All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 08:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Is Chuck Norris really 70? That seems a little high. --Melab±1 ☎ 20:04, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

-Yup, he just looks very good for his age :). If you look at his stuff from the early 80s he definitely looks like he's in his early 40s. He just has managed to keep that fairly youthful look since then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.141.245.32 (talk) 03:36, 17 February 2011 (UTC) hes 71 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.11.243.36 (talk) 14:30, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

His 1988 movie, Hero and The Terror needs to have an article added. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095296/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.162.38 (talk) 20:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

This page needs a picture that show's the guy's from the front, not the side. --- cymru lass ^{(hit me up)}⁄_{(background check)} 23:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

What do you think about this one? File:Chuck Norris 200611292256.jpg − Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 13:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Much better. Thanks! I'm putting it in the infobox now. --- cymru lass ^{(hit me up)}⁄_{(background check)} 22:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

The article states that Norris believes in creation. It is therefore unnecessary, IMHO, to state that he doesn't believe in evolution. It is also incorrect to say that he "subscribes to Intelligent Design". Adherents of ID are not creationists. The difference is that creationists recognise that God created everything. IDists recognise that the theory of Evolution is a hoax but do not ascribe the design to God, merely a "higher intelligence". Silver Shiney (talk) 10:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

• You're right and wrong. You're correct that there is no need to point out that he doesn't believe in evolution. But "IDists" do not have a singular interpretation across the board. Some who support teaching ID do believe in God, others do not. There is no bright line. Further, we go with what the sources show, not how we interpret the belief system. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

"Some who support teaching ID do believe in God" - yes, these are called Creationists. Those who don't believe in God are not. The dividing line is very bright, and has nothing to do with interpreting belief systems. Perhaps you need to cite accurate sources ;-) Silver Shiney (talk) 12:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I was recently on facesofphilanthropy.com, and came across Chuck Norris's Philanthropy profile. I noticed his Wiki article didn't have a section dedicated towards his philanthropy yet, so I added one, and found it ideal to fold the already existing World Combat League section into this new section. Sir. Somerset (talk) 19:20, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

According to this very article, Chuck Norris is 70 years old, and yet it also states that: "His time with the U.S. Veterans Administration as a spokesperson, was inspired by his experience serving the United States Air Force in the Korean War." (emphasis mine)

So, what, are we to believe that Mr. Norris was the youngest soldier ever to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces?

Also, according to the article itself, Chuck Norris joined the Air Force in 1958; hostilities in Korea ceased in 1953.

I think it is safe to say that Chuck Norris did not serve during the Korean War.

79.138.172.26 (talk) 22:19, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Well said Mr. 79.138.172.26. I was going to post about the same thing, so I will go ahead and revise it. Paragoalie (talk) 20:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Chuck Norris will find you for this. I feel Chuck Norris fight record should be removed there is a lack of reliable third person sourcesDwanyewest (talk) 23:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

he kill all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.75.146 (talk) 15:31, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

umm chuck norris is born on May 6 th 1945 not on March 10 th 1940 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.54.160 (talk) 02:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC) Facebook is not a reliable sorce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.199.7.69 (talk) 00:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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Umm, no. His birthday as clearly stated by IMDB is the 10th of March. But right now it's listed wrongly.

Presumably this is about a joke that's suddenly become popular that says, "Chuck Norris was born May 6,1945. The Nazis surrendered May 7, 1945. Coincidence? I think not." There are many websites referring to both Norris's 69th and 70th birthdays on March 10 so I'm pretty sure the joke is nonsense, but it would be good to have a proper source his birthdate. IMDb doesn't cut it, and I can't find anything that looks half-reliable through Google. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 18:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Norris was born March 10, 1940. I added his own biography which should suffice since he can be a reliable source for his own birthday. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:16, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 18:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Chuck Norris endorsed Ron Paul for the GOP presidential nomination for 2012. Here is a link to use as a footnote. http://www.frumforum.com/celebrity-endorsements-draw-attention-not-votes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.209.23.41 (talk) 03:12, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Just exactly what belts does Norris have? If you go to the Seagal article, or some other action star, you'll see the black square and the degree, like Seagal is a 7th dan in Aikido. I know Chuck's got more than one, so what are they? Someone put them up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlameHorse (talk • contribs) 12:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

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spouse = Dianne Holechek (1958-1988) 
Gena O'Kelley (1998-present)

97.81.115.237 (talk) 20:35, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

 Done Stickee (talk) 12:13, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

The article lists his character's name as Eric Carson, that was the director. The name of Norris' character is Scott James. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.41.170 (talk) 03:24, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Please change from deceased to alive. He is not dead.

Any source that he died or any source that he's still alive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.182.248.165 (talk) 01:34, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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Please remove "died May 4, 2011" from the first line of Chuck Norris' wikipedia page. I have seen no evidence to suggest Chuck Norris has died. The source this is linked to is unrelated.Please delete this "died May 4, 2011"

134.174.140.208 (talk) 01:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Already done Just run of the mill vandalism, someone already took care of it. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• Chuck Norris is plagiarizing his conservative columns- The martial artist and unlikely right-wing celebrity seems to be borrowing paragraphs without attribution, salon.com, Apr 26, 2011.--87.178.115.98 (talk) 00:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Isn't Chuck Norris known as an internet meme? On the internet, he is fictionally claimed as the strongest person on earth. 82.13.79.52 (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I suggest reading the entire article. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 18:39, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

As of today's date if you type "WHERE IS" into Google the first suggestion it gives you is CHUCK NORRIS. I wonder: does Norris have some deal with Google or is this another example of subtle wit by the search engine? SmokeyTheCat 11:28, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Let us not forget "Action Jeans" here! Chuck Norris Action Jeans — Preceding unsigned comment added by O0drogue0o (talk • contribs) 13:14, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Or his endorsement of WOW in their most recent tv spot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.107.238.74 (talk) 05:37, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

The link to reference 42 is incorrect. This one is correct: http://townhall.com/columnists/chucknorris/2008/11/18/if_democracy_doesnt_work,_try_anarchy/page/full/

Also, the sentence below states that Norris chided the gay community in the above article: "On November 18, 2008, Norris became one of the first members of show business to express support for the California Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage, and he chided the gay community for "interfering" with the democratic process and the double standard he perceived in criticizing the LDS Church without criticizing African Americans, who had voted for the measure by a wide margin.[42]"

It is clear from Norris' article that he is NOT chiding the gay community whatsoever. He is chiding "protestors of Proposition 8 in California"/"the pro-gay community", in particular those people who threatened or physically harmed pro-Prop 8 people. Ahenobarbus (talk) 09:50, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

• You're right, but we'd also be treading on OR if we inferred the difference. Instead, I've changed it to "activists", which shouldn't be an issue. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:00, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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It is occasionally cited that Norris made history in 1990 when he was the first Westerner in the documented history of Tae Kwon Do to be given the rank of 8th Degree Black Belt Grand Master. On July 1, 2000, Norris was presented the Golden Lifetime Achievement Award by the World Karate Union Hall of Fame.

Dwce (talk) 05:18, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Note: Presumably you are requesting that the intermittent sentence ("However, Norris appears to have been misled about this as there were at least two other U.S. Black Belts (Charles 'Chuck' Sereff and Edward Sell[13][14]) awarded TKD 8th Dan several years prior.") be removed because the citation links are dead? Mato (talk) 22:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Not done: I have updated the links with cached versions. Mato (talk) 22:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

you list this upcoming film in filmography but don't mention it in film career para etc - expected to be hit as Exp I was ... etc reel bruce li, 19th dan wongduktoe 69.121.221.97 (talk) 12:43, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

co u ps spk n com sen??! s hard ndst u.

Or: Could you please speak in complete sentences with complete words, instead of abbreviating everything? It's hard to understand you. If you are unable to manage complete sentences with complete words, you should consider seeking education and practice elsewhere. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:44, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

<sarcasm>Seriously you don't speak txt talk?</sarcasm>! Agree with the sentiment of your statement. --UnQuébécois (talk) 17:44, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Politico tells that he is now endorsing Newt Gingrich.[4] Original column here.[http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/my-endorsement-for-president/] This should probably be added. --89.27.8.236 (talk) 23:02, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

• Why should it be added? In the big picture of his life and career, how significant is it that he is supporting a candidate early in the primaries, long before he has become the party nominee (if he ever is)? This looks like WP:RECENTISM and Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS. Niteshift36 (talk) 23:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Because the current version of the article says: "During the 2012 presidential election, Norris endorsed the Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul" (that was in summer), and with the new endorsement that information is outdated. Why do you want to present outdated information? --89.27.8.236 (talk) 00:59, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• IT doesn't any longer. That didn't belong there either for the same reasons. Niteshift36 (talk) 01:10, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Under "Early life" the statement "Other children taunted him about his mixed ethnicity, and Norris daydreamed about beating up his tormentors." needs a corroborating outside source, or else should be preceded by "According to Norris". There is little to suggest from the information available that anyone would assume from his name or his physical appearance that he was of mixed ethnicity; from this entry the only evidence offered is "Norris has said that he has Irish and Cherokee Native American ancestry.[2][6]" On the other hand there is much to suggest from his conservative politics that he might try to use such a statement to deflect charges of racism in his views on minorities. G.jexter (talk) 06:52, 21 January 2012 (UTC)g.jexterG.jexter (talk) 06:52, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Apparently you've never read his autobiography. Published before he ever became politically active, he said similar things in it. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:14, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I think you've missed the point here: such statements need to be referenced. It could be external verification, e.g. "Childhood friends recount Norris being taunted about his mixed ethnicity,..." with a citation to material that a biographer may have discovered in interviews of old acquaintances of Norris. If the statement comes from Norris himself, then it should say "In his autobiography, Norris states that other children taunted him about his his mixed ethnicity,...", followed by a citation referencing either his earlier 1987 autobiography The Secret of Inner Strength; My Story or his later post 9/11 autobiography published in 2004, Against All Odds: My Story. At the very least, the unaltered statement in question should be followed by the appropriate citation. The point is to provide the most complete and accurate information possible. G.jexter (talk) 19:24, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Then if that is your point, why are you talking about "On the other hand there is much to suggest from his conservative politics that he might try to use such a statement to deflect charges of racism in his views on minorities"? That smells like purely your opinion and it is disproven by the fact that he was writing the same thing back in 1988. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:42, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

It is my opinion, formed in part because the statement wasn't sourced and which allowed me to use my imagination and think the worst. If I had initially read that this was a statement from his autobiography published in 1987 (not 1988), I'd like to think I would have formed a less cynical opinion. By supplying that information, you get a clearer and more complete picture of who Chuck Norris is. Do you get it now?

I thank you for telling me where the statement came from, but I'm still not sure why you seem to be against this; I never suggested adding my opinion to the Wiki page. G.jexter (talk) 23:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Now you want to quibble about dates? The hardcover was in Dec. 1987 while the paperback was in Feb 1989. Saying 1988 splits the difference. You muddied the waters with the statement I quoted (and the pointing out that his second book was "post 9/11", as if that mattered). Had you not put that (those) in there, you would have looked more objective and less agenda seeking. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Niteshift36, I freely admit that I don't love Chuck Norris, but like many people his politics was affected by the the attacks of 9/11. I don't agree with some of the things he's said since he's been more vocal in expressing his opinions, but does that mean I'm trying to sabotage his Wikipedia entry? You've already changed my mind by informing me that he wrote this pre-9/11 yet you seem unwilling to share this fact with anyone else. I don't get it. Also too: go ahead and call it quibbling if you want, but if a book's first printing is in 1987, then you cite 1987. It doesn't matter that the paperback came out in 1989, or the comic book version came out in 1993, or the interpretive dance version debuted on Broadway in 1995 - THE BOOK WAS PUBLISHED IN 1987. It's just a fact. You don't ever "split the difference." G.jexter (talk) 02:49, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• Yes, it is quibbling. My first edition copy of the book has a 1988 copyright. And here is a picture of the page:[5] The 1988 copyright is a FACT. So go tell the publisher how it was 1987 and that they are wrong too. This isn't about "loving" Chuck Norris. This is about you coming up with some hypothesis on you own, trying to act like there was validity to it and then, when it is refuted, trying to divert the discussion. Had you read the book, you'd know that Norris talked about being picked on and different because he was one of the few that wasn't pure Indian in his school. He was different because he had light hair and light skin. I suspect you made the incorrect assumption that he was trying to claim some sort of "minority" status that he wasn't part of, without thinking that his "minority" was being "the white kid". That's in the first chapter......of the 1988 version. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Niteshift36, that you're trying to correct G.jexter over him pointing out that the book was published in 1987 with the honestly ridiculous argument that it "splits the difference" before doing a 180 and claiming that the first edition was from 1988 makes me think you need to read WP:BITE and quit arguing just to argue. While you may disagree with his views, he is on point that we should attribute statements in this article. Those who want to question Norris will do so regardless, but those who accept his word will accept those statements more than outside biographers, and both groups will be able to make informed decisions on how to judge when we properly attribute.

Looking at the article, that section is not properly sourced. The paragraph in question lacks any citation after the first sentence. In other words, it is not supported by any source right now (if you decide to help, please be sure to include the page number, I'm seeing a lot of citations without page numbers, which is almost pointless), and I could argue that under WP:BLP, we should remove the statement.

Also, Amazon says the first edition was published in 1987, as does Goodreads, as does this newspaper. Per WP:V, if we have to give a date for the book, it's 1987. Ian.thomson (talk) 04:09, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• I have the first edition. I took a picture of the copyyright page of the first edition. Since I am the one who entered the book as a ref in the first place, I know which one was used. It was 1988. The copyright is 1988. That is fact. Period. I made the off handed split the difference comment while I was away from home. Once I got home and checked my copy, I affirmed that I had correctly entered 1988 (the copyright date for the FIRST EDITION) when I put the source in. I reverted your change. I am holding the book in my hand, can read and am using it as the source material for the entry. The publisher is a WP:RS for when they copyrighted their own book.

Your comment about needing to ad page numbers is just being dickish. Show me any book source that I've added that I did not include a page number. Anywhere on Wikipedia.Niteshift36 (talk) 15:58, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Niiteshift36, I'm not fighting with you! Listen to yourself: "Had you read the book, you'd know that Norris talked about being picked on and different because he was one of the few that wasn't pure Indian in his school. He was different because he had light hair and light skin. I suspect you made the incorrect assumption that he was trying to claim some sort of "minority" status that he wasn't part of, without thinking that his "minority" was being "the white kid". That's in the first chapter......of the 1988 version."

The point of Wikipedia is to assume I haven't read the book. You have the book in your hands. You're giving me a more complete picture of who Chuck Norris is. I believe you. You're right that I assumed he was being picked on for being Cherokee, not for being white. And I made those assumptions BECAUSE THE WIKI PAGE IS MISSING THOSE DETAILS! Say it's from the 1988 printing of the book if you think you need to make that distinction (and call me an asshole here if it makes you feel better), but please, just put those details in the wiki page and say where they came from! G.jexter (talk) 08:31, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• It came from the first edition which was copyrighted in 1988. That is it the first edition and that it was copyrighted in 1988 has been in the source citation for a long time. I posted the picture of it for you. At this point, you are either going to have to say that the publisher got it wrong or that I manipulated the photo. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:58, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'm going to WQA. Also, you only provided page numbers for the birthday. Look at any other good article, written by competent editors, and you'll see that (in line with works which hope to have any respect from the academic community), new information is cited to the section of the book it comes from.

The entire paragraph in question lacks a citation after the first line, which is not the book in question but a newspaper article that does not support anything beyond the first sentence. Is that information really all covered in just page 6 of the book? That book is not being used to properly cite anything except for the birthday, and that's it. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:45, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• I only used the page number for the birthdate? Um, yeah........that's the only time I have added the book as a citation. If someone else used the book for something else and didn't add a page number, that isn't my problem. I added the book as a source for TWO uses, both being the birthdate. Don't blame other people's errors on me. If you have a diff showing my use of the book as a source and failing to use the page number, produce it. Otherwise, you can apologize. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:44, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• When you search by ISBN, Google books lists the book as 1988 [6], as does World Cat [7], Ottobib [8], Open Library [9] (which interstingly states clearly "first published in 1988). Since these are all tools provided by Wikipedia on the page about using book sources, I'd say it is safe to say that they have passed WP:RS. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

description in photo :Sobowtór Chucka Norrisa.JPG -> double of chuck noris — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.15.38.122 (talk) 20:16, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

It is surprising this photo is still there. Polish caption clearly states the photo depicts a double.

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I'm going to edit this page because I believe I can add more information on this topic. Thanks.

Laccrco (talk) 04:11, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. As the template says, you need to specify what you want edited. If you are WP:AUTOCONFIRM, you can make the edit yourself without using the template. ChadH (talk) 04:35, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

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It appears the birth details are incorrect. It currently states "born May 06, 1945" and should be changed to "born March 10, 1940". If you check the source cited you can see it does not match the citation ("IMDb". http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001569/). This wrong information is found in two places in the article - the introduction and the quick facts to the right.

24.18.19.250 (talk) 05:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed, thanks. If you're curious, see Talk:Chuck_Norris/Archive_1#wrong_birth_date for where the false date comes from. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 11:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

On his page, it says 183–10–2 when in reality, it's actually 65-5.

Proof:http://karate-in-english-lewis-wallace.blogspot.in/2008/03/chuck-norris-accurate-record.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midnight Cowboy43 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Blogs cannot be sources WP:BLPSPS Also on that page

Official sources lack about karate for this period of time. None federation seems to have managed the results of various tournaments, in which he has participated. It is impossible to be affirmative on fights and titles record for Chuck Norris. Also, his official website is extremely vague on this issue, mentioning only "… Chuck was a martial arts star, winning many championships including martial arts being a six-time undefeated World Professional Middleweight Karate Champion ... [13]. In his book, Chuck Norris does not speak of these defences of his title. We have found no trace of this title fights.

I'll be adding citation needed tag and eventually remove the fight record unless someone can provide a reliable source ChadH (talk) 22:32, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

But that blog is the only source that states his fight record.On IMDb, it lists his fight record at 65-5. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midnight Cowboy43 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Please see WP:RS/IMDB regarding IMDb as a source. As your blog source stated "It is impossible to be affirmative on fights and titles record for Chuck Norris". I think that until a Reliable Source can be found, the record needs to be removed. ChadH (talk) 18:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

• Agreed on IMDB. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I doubt you'll ever find a more reliable source than that blog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midnight Cowboy43 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: The most famous Texas Ranger Chuck Norris (72) is against it to change the old rule of Scouts in the U.S. and that its members can become homosexuals. The website AmmoLand.com Chuck Norris wrote that "homosexuals have no business in the Association of Scouts of America and that it would be shameful and anti-American", because "scouts symbolize the best of America." Where are you going to America, Chuck Norris needs to defend the core values ​​of young Americans? 78.2.56.50 (talk) 23:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

• First, why should we care about what Kravar said? Who is he? Second, there is no "Association of Scouts of America". It's the Boy Scouts of America and I bet Norris knows that. Lastly, you've given no reason why it should be included.Niteshift36 (talk) 00:33, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Chuck Norris is a Texas Ranger? I thought it was just a part he played on TV.Robinrobin (talk) 00:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

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Please change the term "In addition to being an action superstar" to ?In addition to being an actor" RATIONALE: The term "superstar" is subjective.

96.255.143.72 (talk) 23:04, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Done Rivertorch (talk) 04:44, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

• Chuck Norris accuses Obama of trying to create a 'pro-gay' Boy Scouts. 84.152.35.238 (talk) 22:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

• A discussion already exists. Niteshift36 (talk) 12:09, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Edits needed also include a citation on the Norris criticism of criticism of LDS members and something about African Americans that makes no sense. By the way, thanks for summarily deleting my article criticism/suggestion. I can see that wikipedia editors as a collective are truly an enlightened source of information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.48.124 (talk) 01:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

• first, wikipedia (and the editors) aren't supposed to be a source of anything. Wikipedia relies on compiling the work of other reliable sources. Second, you need to make the case for why this info needs to be included in the bio, keeping in mind things like WP:UNDUE, BLP and WP:RECENTISM. Niteshift36 (talk) 01:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Request to change the last line in the Martial arts career section, from

In 1999, Norris was inducted into the Martial Arts History Museum's Hall of Fame [49]←

to In 1999, Norris was inducted into the Martial Arts History Museum's Hall of Fame [50]

Also request to change that last reference the 50th. There is a numbering mistake over there.

jmd.aKBar (talk) 06:43, 23 July 2012 (UTC) 06:34, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I've corrected this statement per the first citation in the section from 1997 to 1990:

"In 1990 I was honored with another milestone by being the first man ever in the Western Hemisphere to be awarded an 8th degree Black Belt Grand Master recognition in the Tae Kwon Do system."

I've also removed the statement that Sell and Sereff achieved theirs first:

Edward B. Sell: 1991 - 8th Degree Black Belt certified by the World Taekwondo Federation (Kukkiwon).

C.E. Sereff: It takes 30 years to achieve the distinction of 8th Dan Black Belt. Master C.E. "Chuck" Sereff reached this goal in 1990, a few years short of his 60th birthday.

Catfish Jim and the soapdish 09:57, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

GM Sells received 8th dan in Chung Do Kwan, a system of TKD which was one of the original "kwans" or "schools" of TKD in 1987.

Furthermore, it is interesting how the date has changed in Chuck Norris's biography. In earlier versions it was claimed he was awarded the 8th Dan in 1997, both on his (now amended) website and this one, run by his friend Bob Wall http://www.worldblackbelt.com/Founding_Members/Norris_Chuck.asp (83.16.188.58 (talk) 08:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC))

I contacted Bob Wall, who runs the site, and he says Chuck Norris received 8th dans from 2 different associations; one in 1990 and one in 1997. The latter was ITF. I assume that General Choi, who considered himself the founder of TKD, would never have recognised a non-ITF grade (such as WTF), so Charles Sereff would have been the first from an ITF point of view. The question is, whether Chuck received his before Mr Sereff (as I assume Kukkiwon wouldn't acknowledge an ITF grade either) (79.190.69.141 (talk) 09:35, 11 August 2012 (UTC))

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His columns are syndicated by Creators Syndicate Wikicreate91 (talk) 18:01, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Adding the same link to multiple articles has the appearence of advertsing. RudolfRed (talk) 18:32, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

it may have the appearance of advertising, it may actually be paid PR, but that doesn't mean it doesn't belong. the standard would be whether columnists' syndicators are generally listed the way that columnists' newspapers are, for instance; are there other listings of syndication that should be removed? Nobody probably calls all the "writes column for the NY Times" references to be advertising, thought for all we know, NY Times PR firms are keeping it all up to date. Seems there should be different standard than the one you are citing. Commerce is a part of life, vast swathes of the public engage in it, and those who don't are ultimately supported by those who do... 96.224.32.111 (talk) 21:17, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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Under "his politics", the sentence that says he is "against public schools protecting LGBT students from bullying through anti-bullying policies, and is opposed to LGBT rights in general" is not supported by the article that is the cited reference. That article does not mention bullying at all, and his quoted phrasing is that he is against schools promoting homosexuality. Just seems that it's simpler just to say what the article says than to turn it into an interpretation, or if there is any interpreting to be done it would be to "de-interpret" his interpretation, for example perhaps he "joined the call to label a Day of Silence as pro gay" if it perhaps was something else. He also points out in the article a barbaric punishment for sexual deviance that he claims Thomas Jefferson advocated... does the Thomas Jefferson article contain this information? it seems a more interesting fact overall, but part of a different agenda than the one apparent in the wiki article.

Also the opening sentence of that section that he advocates what the Republican party advocates is pretty lame; is a similar phrase added to every article about every political partisan? 96.224.32.111 (talk) 21:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll second this; I read through the article cited as well and there's nothing there to remotely support the claim that he's against any anti-bullying efforts. Plus, the way its phrased is clearly not a neutral voice, its written as to make him sound villainous. It should be rewritten more encyclopedically, or at least marked with "needs citation" for the anti-bullying claim.

96.32.140.249 (talk) 02:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Both of these suggestions have been implemented. -- Dianna (talk) 21:44, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

These movies are not verified to star Chuck Norris nor have they even confirmed he's in it. Missing In Action 4 was announced not to long ago but there is no official confirmation on a cast or when it starts production or even released. Same with The Expendables 3, there is no verification on any of these movies. Please change or delete them until it has been confirmed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.229.45 (talk) 04:53, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

I second this. Missing in Action 4 is still listed, but it has not been confirmed whether he'll be in it. Has MIA 4 been actually announced anyways? This page is the first I ever heard of it. 70.195.1.29 (talk) 23:58, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes MIA 4 has been announced but it will be produced by WWE Films. According to their website. But, there website does not indicate any cast or script done yet and no confirmation on if Chuck Norris is gonna be in it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.158.226.26 (talk) 23:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

There has been nothing announced about a Missing in Action 4. 70.195.64.213 (talk) 00:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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Chuck Norris column can not be found on WND.com (WorldNewsDaily). He is a columnist for TownHall.com. 98.238.167.208 (talk) 23:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I'd like to see a link to a reliable source please, which indicates that it is the same Chuck Norris. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

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Chuck Norris died at 71 from heart failure 10.7.12 Sbodman1 (talk) 03:38, 5 December 2012 (UTC)\

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Please provide a reliable source that shows that he died §h₳un 9∞76 03:41, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Isn't really 1968-2012. Is 1968-present — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.26.44.26 (talk) 18:14, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:28, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

On MMA nation interview he said he had a black belt in Judo when he first met the Gracie family. He also said in the interview that he trained with them over 28 year span. I think a black belt in judo should be mentioned.174.134.134.74 (talk) 08:24, 4 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.134.134.74 (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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In the section Martial arts career. The name Arnold Urquidez should be replace by Benny "The Jet" Urquidez.... Arnold was Benny's father Piexii (talk) 00:45, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Done RudolfRed (talk) 03:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

That can't be right. I don't know what relation Arnold Urquidez is to Benny and I don't know if Chuck Norris ever fought him, but I know Norris never fought Benny Urquidez. That would have been huge news. Joefromrandb (talk) 03:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

• He never fought Benny. Benny's first fight was in 1974 and Norris was already getting into movies then. Benny's own website lists his history [10] and doesn't mention Norris at all. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:59, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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I actually have two requests for this article. First, since the article mentions that Norris has a brown belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, it seems appropriate to add him to the "American practitioners of Brazilian jiu-jitsu" category. Also, I would like to suggest removing Norris form the "American libertarians" category; nowhere does the article explicitly mention him as a libertarian, and I think most would agree that he is conservative. Thank you. 108.95.130.150 (talk) 01:20, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Partly done: I've added the Jiu-Jitsu category, but the article makes it sound to me like he's libertarian. If you think I'm wrong, you can reactivate the request and someone else will look at it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Is his second wife "Gena" or "Gina"?

Both are used in different places in the article -- sloppy! The "Biography" page at his official (?) site http://www.chucknorris.com/biography.htm says "Gena". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.74.243.168 (talk) 12:55, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that I keep coming across "Chuck Norris Mode" in software development and think it's worth a small mention:

What is Chuck Norris mode? When shall I use it? Chuck Norris mode uses system's built in kill command to terminate the selected application. This is an aggressive way to close running applications, and lets you kill **any** running app. Including dialer and system which can lead to a quick system restart. Use this only if you know what you are doing.

-- Autokiller

Chuck Norris mode: Enable the feature to remove protected “bloatware” apps from your ROM (using a roundhouse kick :) )

-- Titanium Backup

...then there's the more obvious references in gaming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.86.254 (talk) 02:42, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

• You probably don't see it in the article because it's trivial. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] (talk) 04:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Chuck Norris is now 74 and looks nothing like in his photo... 

I am concerned this is a bit misleading since his picture that is currently on this Wikipedia is back in 2006... really should be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.25.63.132 (talk) 04:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

• If you have a suitable free image, then contribute it. If not, just complaining isn't helping much. Niteshift36 (talk) 12:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps this picture would be more suitable, circa 2012 Source: http://clients.mattleitholt.com/img/s1/v47/p175607517-5.jpg Depletion Zero (talk) 02:35, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

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I love Chuck Norris, he is a great men with a lot of good films and I would editing this Page,for write good things. Thank you for you comprehension. Freak of ChuckNorris (talk) 08:38, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Stickee (talk) 09:12, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Please link instead to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rambo

as this shows how the Rambo character predates the Chuck Norris film. The link to Rambo 1985 film fails to make that clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.73.228.23 (talk) 15:23, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't we mention that he did have a part in the Expendables 2? Since it was his most recent role in a movie? Trooper 902 (talk) 14:50, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

SB. Nation Bloody Elbow article by T.P Grant Says Chuck Norris is a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu under Carlos Machado.174.134.134.74 (talk) 08:26, 4 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.134.134.74 (talk) 08:15, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

chuck now 3rd deg black belt, ref facebook page 47.18.43.166 (talk) 23:20, 1 June 2015 (UTC)bruce

There are at least two video games starring Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris Superkicks and Chuck Norris: Bring on the Pain. Cgbuff (talk) 07:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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What about his public support for Texas to secede from the Union? (DavidRichardLlewelyn (talk) 12:22, 13 January 2016 (UTC))

I feel that this page could a little more detail to Chuck's film career as it is relatively short compared to other actor pages on Wikipedia...just a suggestion. I can help with that, however, I realize that the page is semi-protected. Trooper 902 (talk) 05:55, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

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Chuck Norris made his film debut in the 1968 film The Wrecking Crew. However, Norris made more of an impact on movie-goers in Return of the Dragon (1973). The film’s highlight was the fight scene between Norris and martial arts action star Bruce Lee. Chuck Norris earned his first starring role in the film Breaker! Breaker! (1977). Norris box office ratings increased with subsequent films such as The Octagon (1980), An Eye for an Eye (1981), and Lone Wolf McQuade (1983).

Norris reached his professional apex in Missing in Action (1984) where Norris played Colonel James Braddock, a former prisoner of war who returns to Vietnam to free other soldiers still being held. He did this film and its sequels, Missing in Action II-the Beginning (1985) and Braddock: Missing in Action III (1988), as a tribute to his younger brother Wieland who dies in combat in Vietnam. Norris received good reviews for the film Code of Silence (1985), teamed up with the legendary action star Lee Marvin for the action film The Delta Force (1986), and even lent his name and voice to a brief TV cartoon series titled Chuck Norris’ Karate Kommandos.

By the 1990’s Cannon Films were no longer prominent and Norris’ movie appeal had seemed to fade. Delta Force II: Operation Stranglehold (1990) failed to assist Norris’ appeal. Norris was in his forties and was receiving heavy competition from younger actors muscling in on action movie roles. Keeping this in mind, Norris took on roles such as the mean blood-thirsty character in Hitman (1991), to playing himself as a coach to a young fan in Sidekicks (1993). None of these films improved his reputation, so Norris decided that perhaps television was the answer.

In 2003 Chuck Norris returned to films once more, often with his brother Aaron directing him. He had starring roles in films such as Bells of Innocence (2003), The Cutter (2005), and The Contender (2005). In 2012 he joined the cast of The Expendables 2, teaming up with other masters of 80s action films such as Stallone, Schwarzenegger, and Willis.

Also, Chuck Norris is, in fact. immortal and does not bleed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.245.136.183 (talk) 23:14, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Let me know what you think and if I need to change anything.Trooper 902 (talk) 22:41, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

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There seems to be several discrepancies in Chuck Norris's claim to be the first Western 8th Dan in TKD. Bob Wall and Chuck Norris received 8th Dan grades from General Choi Hong Hi of the ITF, however, Bob Wall's own website refers to the date as being 1997 ( http://www.worldblackbelt.com/who-s-who/founding-members/5-chuck-norris ). Furthermore, Bob Wall's website also has an entry for GM Charles Sereff who graded 8th Dan ITF in 1989 (http://www.worldblackbelt.com/who-s-who/living-legends/156-charles-sereff) and later becoming the first western 9th dan in 1997. (188.146.140.49 (talk) 20:41, 18 August 2016 (UTC))

Maybe a section could be inserted about Chuck Norris's political activism against Geoengineering. Quote:

"The most colossal and tragic of all government cover-ups is the fact that the feds have been waging climate warfare for more than 30 years, lacing our clouds and stratosphere with dangerous nano-particles, including environmental sulfates, black carbon, metallic aluminum and aluminum oxide aerosols. The truth is, for decades, the feds have been covertly and overtly running sky criminal operations behind (above!) our backs, leaving humans and the rest of the planet life as lab rats of their toxic cocktail fallout.

[...]

That is why my wife, Gena, and I encourage citizens everywhere to do their own research on geo-engineering and then write their government representatives to demand action."

Source: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/chuck-norris-a-government-cover-up-of-epic-proportions/
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And a bit further down, on the same page Gena Norris says:

"I become very physically ill when they spray and don't start feeling better until the skies clear us. I'm having to detox constantly. This assault on our planet and humanity is vile and completely criminal to say the least. My husband and I have a very large following and will continue to raise awareness as often as we can."

--BjKa (talk) 10:22, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Chuck Norris was a special guest outside enforcer for the casket rematch at Suvivor Series between Undertaker and Yokozuna. It will be added to the article. Finding the right section needs to be done. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 05:25, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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Just wanted to be the guy who had the please of updating Carlos "Chuck" Norris's birthday on Wikipedia.

It's also my birthday today, so please give me this honour. Garysylvester (talk) 21:17, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

@Garysylvester: What do you want to change? His age will be updated automatically. RudolfRed (talk) 22:48, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

This article is a weird list of various mundane facts about Mr Norris...--Jack Upland (talk) 10:43, 22 May 2018 (UTC)