Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Flush Gang

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The result was keep. Merge can be discussed outside of AfD. (non-admin closure) buidhe 04:40, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A fictional organization that seems to fail WP:NFICTION/GNG. I can't find anything that goes beyond WP:PLOT summary / list of appearances in media. They did recently appear on TV (Arrow) but I don't see anything about the group, some semi-related discussion about casting and such is not directly related to the notability of this entity. The best source I see is [1] and it is really a fancruft/trivia level. Few mentions in books are basically short plot summaries as well. Can anyone find anything better to rescue this? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:37, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:37, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge By just reading the article you can find a suitable merge-option. Another WP:POINT-nomination after a shot down PROD. The Banner talk 09:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per WP:NEXIST and WP:ARTN. The Royal Flush Gang has appeared in DC comics for 35 years, and in six television shows (four animated, two live-action), so they've received coverage from reliable sources. The following sources are currently used in the article:
  • The Essential Wonder Woman Encyclopedia by Phil Jimenez and John Wells, Random House (2010)
  • DC Comics Year By Year: A Visual Chronicle by Alan Cowsill, Alex Irvine, Matthew K. Manning, Michael McAvennie and Daniel Wallace, Dorling Kindersley (2010)
  • The World Encyclopedia of Comics, Vol. 1 ed by Maurice Horn, Chelsea House Publishers (1976)
  • "Tomorrow's Knight" by Pat Jankiewicz, Starlog Magazine #259 (1999)
  • "Last Laughs" by Pat Jankiewicz, Starlog Magazine #282 (2001)
  • "Arrow to Face DC Card Crooks 'The Royal Flush Gang'" by Kevin Fitzpatrick, ScreenCrush (2012)
  • "DC's Royal Flush Gang Resemble Version on Arrow TV Show" by Rich Johnston, Bleeding Cool (2020)
  • DC Comics Encyclopedia All-New Edition by Matthew K. Manning and Alex Irvine, Dorling-Kindersley (2016)
  • "10 Things Every DC Fan Should Know About the Royal Flush Gang" by Dylan Musselman, CBR.com (2019)
  • "All In: A History of the Royal Flush Gang" by Kyle Dodson, DCUniverse.com (2020)

This shows per WP:NEXIST that reliable non-fiction sources exist, which demonstrates notability. Many of them discuss plot-related information, but it's necessary when writing about fictional characters to describe their plot function in the context of the narrative as a whole. The article could use more work to cut down the overly-long plot summaries, but WP:ARTN says that the current state of the article does not affect the subject's notability. -- Toughpigs (talk) 21:40, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• • • The issue is that no-one has demonstrated that they go an inch beyond plot discussion. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:36, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per available sources, WP:ARTN, and WP:NEXIST. gidonb (talk) 04:51, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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