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August 3

Checking Out a Last Name (or surname)

My last name is Driver, and I am interested in seeing your entries on other people who have the last name of Driver (like Minnie Driver). Could you direct me how to do that? For instance, letting me see the "tree" of entries before and after Minnie Driver.

Thank you for your answer ahead of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Driver (talkcontribs) 00:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Driver (surname)Nelson Ricardo (talk) 00:48, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you think Minnie Driver is a funny name, my grandmother was named Minnie Cooper. StuRat (talk) 00:52, 3 August 2014 (UTC) [reply]
Was she a low down hoochie-coocher?--Jayron32 00:56, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wood Stains

Resolved

How do I get rid of a slightly greyish circle caused by a coffee cup with a wet bottom (spilled whilst being attacked by a wasp) on a polished wood surface? Will it go away on its own, or is there something I can/must do? KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 08:16, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. It cleared up on its own. KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 08:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Best post ever. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Endorsing the views of The RM. Why can't everything resolve thus? Edison (talk) 00:53, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't one expect some damage to the finish? Or is it a water-resistant finish? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots03:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it is a polished surface, so I would expect that to lend some protection. KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 04:43, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This happens often to me with a set of tables that we got from my wife's grandmother. The tables have an inlay on the top but I don't know what it's made of. When a cup gathers condensation on it and a wet ring forms, the same grey ring that you've noticed will be present for a little while on these tables. Though they haven't been polished in years, I haven't noticed any permanent damage from the rings. Damage from our pets is another matter... Dismas|(talk) 07:49, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes this helps. 84.209.89.214 (talk) 13:42, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If the wood was bare and the stain remained, then oxalic acid dissolved in water can remove black or dark marks. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:16, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If this were the LD, I'd ask what noun belongs to spilled and being attacked. —Tamfang (talk) 04:23, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SCAM?

Are these copies of Structural Geology of Rocks and Regions third edition (available to be bought at 0.99$)legit? This is a lot lower than a used book price from Amazon.com (72.72$) or Chegg (76.99$). 99.146.126.108 (talk) 23:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)It seems almost too good to be true. Are Sierra Nevada Books and Silver Arch Books legit? http://www.alibris.com/Structural-Geology-of-Rocks-and-Regions-George-H-Davis/book/6391166[reply]

You may find this prior discussion somewhat helpful. We cannot really comment as to the legitimacy of those sellers beyond saying "check the seller ratings and comments and caveat emptor." Ian.thomson (talk) 23:49, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In general, I'd check the shipping price. Often a low purchase price is accompanied by high shipping costs. StuRat (talk) 04:53, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

August 4

Potty Training and Diapers

Hello everyone, I ask this question after a heated debate with my friend from University, Why is it that children are wearing diapers later and later? Is there a reason that 70 years ago many children were out of diapers by 18 months. Now in the western world it seems to be by 3 years old. This question refers to children brought up in 'wealthier' countries (i.e USA, UK, Singapore, Australia etc..) . Thanks! --Allin Bagsnott (talk) 06:29, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor Spock went out of fashion? HiLo48 (talk) 07:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A friend of mine was asked to include nappy changing facilities when building a new primary school in Brighton. When she asked why on earth this would be necessary she was told that because nappies are so efficient and dry, it reduces the speed at which children become toilet trained, resulting in some school children starting school in nappies. An uncomfortable, damp traditional towelling nappy apparently hastens the transition for one reason or another.83.104.128.107 (talk) 11:48, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you had to wash and dry poop-filled towelling diapers - you'd be pretty motivated to get your kid potty-trained as soon as possible! Modern disposable diapers are so convenient that parents really don't feel pressured to put in the work needed. SteveBaker (talk) 13:54, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
According to this news story some parents are too busy to toilet train the children they are responsible for. DuncanHill (talk) 15:47, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • The above comments about diapers being comfortable are interesting. I wore cloth and trained very early, my younger siblings came in with the advent of disposables, and they took longer. I have a relative who's 3 1/2 who will pee in the toilet (has been for almost a year) but who will inly poo standing up in diapers in a secluded area (and gets upset if followed) and who then takes the diaper to the trash and waits to get wiped and given a new one. The parents suspect it is a holdover habit from holding it in all day at daycare, but I'll pass this thread along. My own solution would be to put some caffeine in the kid's orange juice, but I tend to be a bit draconian. μηδείς (talk) 12:49 pm, 4 August 2014, last Monday (3 days ago) (UTC−4)
In case anyone is wondering, our article Toilet training does support the claim, although in a slightly OR fashion and doesn't offer any useful citations for the reasons. Note on a losely related fashion, there is I think a great change (see the end of our article for example), in the way Nocturnal enuresis in children is viewed and handled. Nil Einne (talk) 18:59, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Parents treasure the infant stage much? Along with wearing diapers longer than in past years, I see children being pushed around in strollers at ages where they likely would have been walking around holding the parent's hand in previous years. It is common for there to be even triple strollers, with a baby, a toddler and a preschool child all being pushed. Edison (talk) 12:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There's one school of thought that toilet training is stressful on the child, and they should be allowed to decide for themselves when they are ready for it. StuRat (talk) 03:31, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

log in

HI, I am trying to recover my password but I am not getting an email from your side. my username is salamouny my email is [redacted] please advice.

Thank you for your time in reading and replying to my email.

Yours Mohamed ELSalamouny. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.89.228.5 (talk) 20:55, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This question should be asked on the Help Desk. See also Help:Logging in. I've deleted your e-mail address. Tevildo (talk) 23:10, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, there isn't a User:Salamouny on this site or on Commons. Are you sure your account is on the English Wikipedia? Tevildo (talk) 23:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that user does exist here. The user page has not yet been created, but the account exists. See Special:ListUsers RudolfRed (talk) 23:46, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

An old tire

i have a old firestone oldfield type tire sample ibelieve is from the 1920's or 30's. I want to know if it is worth anything — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.185.96.134 (talk) 21:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(I have created a new section for this question. One idea would be to search Ebay to see if anyone is selling similar tires.) SemanticMantis (talk) 21:39, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If your tire size is one shown, this ad shows what it was worth. If you can identify a vehicle that the tire fits, your search may turn to restorers or collectors of that vehicle. 84.209.89.214 (talk) 15:20, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Does it still hold air ? I'd be worried that a 90 year old tire would be brittle. StuRat (talk) 03:27, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

August 5

Bureau cleanup in India

In an article in the boston globe, it was mentioned that an Indian ministry cleaned its shelves of documents/. But what will they do with the files? Will they shred them or just throw them at a landfill or archive them more properly? --112.198.77.5 (talk) 10:40, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Boston Globe article references the Time of India, a quick search on their website finds this. Nanonic (talk) 20:33, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Was there any comparable drive in 2004 when Singh took office? --112.198.82.79 (talk) 04:02, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Help unblocking VENTURA THE BLOWOUT BRUSH

Hi I've made a error when trying to share my new design But I made the mistakenly I paste the web of my partner and my site on the editing, so I've got BLOCKED Can you please help unblock 172.56.19.26 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:55, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you have been blocked from editing, you are violating the block by posting here. Instructions for appealing the block will have been provided on your talk page - though your username is unacceptable under our username policy anyway. And we do not provide free publicity for 'new designs'. We cover established encyclopaedic topics, based on significant coverage in third-party published sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:21, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
VENTURA the blowout brush (talk · contribs) was created on the 1st and has never been blocked. But it's nice of the user to give us advance notice of spamming. Should this section be moved to ANI for further scrutiny by the experts? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots14:29, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've just realised there is another thread relating to this above. [1] Clearly a spam account, and clearly not here for any encyclopaedic purpose. So, in answer to the original question, don't bother asking to be unblocked - it isn't going to happen. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:32, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, if this problem mushrooms, we can take it to ANI. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots14:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A simple direction will suffice

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.19.26 (talk) 17:07, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

North? SemanticMantis (talk) 17:11, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Now reported for block evasion. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots19:04, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And now blocked. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots21:12, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved

Isreal takeover of Palestine lands.

Does Isreal pay Palestinians for their land and property when the Palestinians are evicted?₳฿₵₫ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.34.48 (talk) 17:51, 5 August 2014 (UTC) [reply]

No incivility, please.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Does Hamas pay compensation to the families of Israelis they've car-bombed, etc.? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots18:57, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
How on Earth is that in any way relevant and not massive flame-baiting? Contribute something useful or don't bother. 82.21.7.184 (talk) 20:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The OP threw the first flame. Typical pro-Hamas, anti-Israel loaded question. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots21:04, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The short answer is no. Palestinians' ancestors weren't officially evicted, they abandoned their homes, thanks to a bunch of laws that made "abandon" mean everything from willfully leaving forever to leaving unwillfully to not leaving at all. Much of the world has been asking Israel to either let them come home or pay them since Israel has existed.
Too soon to tell how long Turkey, the European Union and Israel's airlines will have to wait. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:04, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
Skip it.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Maybe those places should send the bill to Hamas. Hamas seems to have lots of money, as they can afford to dig tunnels and buy missiles and car-bombs. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots19:07, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Hamas is the same thing as all Palestinians. I suggest you read up on reality.82.21.7.184 (talk) 21:17, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Quite the contrary. Hamas has the Palestinians under their iron fists. Every time a Palestinian dies, they cheer, because it helps the Hamas cause. (I didn't invent that, I read it in an editorial.) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots21:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oddly enough, Israel paid compensation for Palestinians killed by Hamas. Two of them, at least. And one of the Turks who will eventually (theoretically) get paid has pledged it all to Hamas. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:09, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
This current conflict occurs in the context of a long history. One place to start is at United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine, although the governance of transjordan has been contentious for much longer, see Timeline_of_the_history_of_the_region_of_Palestine and Timeline_of_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict SemanticMantis (talk) 20:04, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Max Height of Drivers in Sports Cars

I had the chance to attend an auto show this past weekend where I had the opportunity to sit in a new Maserati GT. I am 5'11" and of average proportions and my hit literally touched the roof of the car when seated.

Is this common in high performance sports cars? Generally speaking, what is the maximum height of a driver who can comfortably fit inside a high-performance sports car such as a Maserati, Aston Martin, or Ferrari? Acceptable (talk) 19:41, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Jeremy Clarkson is 6'5" from what I remember, and he regularly drives high performance sports cars for Top Gear - and he has been known to comment on the restricted headroom in the past! --TammyMoet (talk) 20:19, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Most top-rank race drivers are on the smallish side, but there are exceptions like Alexander Wurz (186 cm or 6'1") or Justin Wilson (192 cm or 6'3½"). In Wilson's case, his height posed difficulties, as his F1 car had to be specifically modified to accommodate him. These two are taller than average, but not giants in by any means. I don't know what the average basketball player who buys a Ferrari does; they are probably custom-modified to accommodate them. A quick google search confirms that the issue of "sports cars for tall drivers" is a common one for discussion on various forums. --Xuxl (talk) 08:27, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

August 6

From today's featured article

please ask this, or better, don't, at the feature article talk page. We deal here with requests for references, or links to relevant articles. μηδείς (talk) 02:42, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Are you so-o-o liberal that every "From today's featured article" has to be to your political leanings? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.239.49 (talk) 01:04, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What, specifically, are you talking about? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots01:11, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@96.227...: That is a typical bias: from a rightist position, everything seems leftist, or "liberal" (which by the way doesn’t mean what you think it does).
Rgds --  hugarheimur 01:27, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Game development in Japan - what engines do they use?

Japan makes most video games so they must have their own game development software. What game development software do they use over there that is not available over here? I'm not looking for info about using Unity or Unreal in Japanese, I'm asking what native to Japan and not available in the US game dev stuff studios and indies use over there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8051:4D60:580F:B9B0:57ED:A845 (talk) 01:25, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about your first assumption? This article suggests there isn't much difference, aside from the language. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:14, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
Seconded. I lived in Japan for ten years, and I am a professional Japanese/English translator. One of my main specalisms is IT localization, which includes gaming. The Japanese use the same software as in the West. If the software already exists, there would be no point in a gaming company using up resources to create a specialist team for the purpose of making software for game development which could only be used in Japan. There is too little demand for it, so they wouldn't make their money back. KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 03:43, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If I could ask for some brief unpaid work, what exactly does the Japanese text on my userpage say? I get the gist of it (ineffective) and get the feeling it makes me unwelcome on Wikipedia, but that's about it. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:19, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
Nevermind that, I realized I could just read the English userbox. Jives with the French one, so I assume it's standard across Wikipedia. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:06, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
"...jives jibes..." Sorry, one of my peeves. --Trovatore (talk) 00:20, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It just says "This user does not understand Japanese." Pretty useless userbox, really. I wonder if someone could make a "This user does not have a dog" for me....? My invoice is in the post. KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 19:27, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The uselessness was the appealing part. Not sure of a neutral "no dog" box, but there's this in-depth anti-dog one. Thanks for clearing that up. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:15, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

What is the purpose of escort jet fighters

Yesterday, (Aug 5 2014), a flight from Dohar into Manchester Airport was escorted to the airport by RAF jet fighters after the pilot received what he believed was a credible threat from a passenger. (see here. Can anyone offer me a credible purpose for this escort. What would they do if the plane exploded or targeted something on the ground? As it happened all ended well. Richard Avery (talk) 07:58, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This Channel 4 article may shed some light on the situation in question. In general it's to make sure there's a visual tracking of the aircraft. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, now I can see what they are about. Thanks RM. Richard Avery (talk) 08:50, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I would have said that these days with radar everywhere, there's no need to visually track planes, but the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 makes it apparent that if they fly between radar stations, and turn off their transponders, they can evade detection. StuRat (talk) 22:48, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I would bet that if the hijackers tried to pull a 9/11 stunt and crash the plane into the Houses of Parliament or something, the fighter pilots would have orders to shoot it down. That's certainly the case in the USA, and has been the case in the UK in the past (see, for example: [2]). SteveBaker (talk) 16:47, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A non listing

Frank Arthur Kasala Regular US Army #19063506 Infantry, Combat veteran; Blue Combat Infantry Badge. 3 battle stars Europe.WW2

?? Why not listed? Frank A. Kasala — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.141.30.148 (talk) 08:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because we don't list every soldier who ever served. See WP:SOLDIER for the general military requirements. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:59, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
WP:WHAAOE, except most people, and sundry other topics. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 09:02, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation

Resolved

In Tinsley, near Sheffield, there's an industrial building at 53°24′16″N 1°23′31″W / 53.40444°N 1.39194°W / 53.40444; -1.39194 (currently owned by Aggregate Industries, according to Google). On a map I have from the early 80's (presumably before the current structure was built), the site is labeled "BSC SPACE". "BSC" is presumably the British Steel Corporation. Does anyone know what "SPACE" means in this context? Tevildo (talk) 12:26, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can't answer your question, however the label "BSC SPACE" is still used. See http://raildar.co.uk/depart/SHPCLPS It's a TIPLOC (Timing point location). TIPLOCs are used by train planners to identify what time trains should arrive at, depart or pass a particular point. --TrogWoolley (talk) 13:42, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the information. The site still appears to have a railhead, although I don't know if it's currently in use. Tevildo (talk) 14:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
According to TIPLOC's downloadable Excel file here "BSC SPACE (SHEPCOTE LANE)" is the NLC description (the NLC is 668119, the TIPLOC is "SHPCLPS"). See also Open Rail Data Wiki. (Still don't know what SPACE stands for, it's not used in any of the other NLC descriptions listed in that xls file). ---Sluzzelin talk 14:26, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Some prodding with that information has yielded the name of the site under BSC ownership, "Coil Products Sheffield" (see Outokumpu#United Kingdom). I'm sure we'll find the full text soon. Thanks again! Tevildo (talk) 16:09, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Got it! "Stainless Plate And Coil Expansion". See this article from 1979. Tevildo (talk) 16:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

:Oh you've taken me back to the 1990s when my husband used to work for British Rail out of Tinsley Yard, and they used to run trains of steel between something called SMAK and SPACE. However, at some stage the process was outsourced, so the steel used to leave SMAK and go abroad, be processed and return to SPACE. How wasteful of resources. --TammyMoet (talk) 19:02, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds like an idea for a children's action movie: 'Thomas - The Train Of Steel' KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 20:03, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
SMACC is "Stainless Metals And Continuous Casting". On my map it's just down as "Tinsley Park Works". Processing was transferred to Tornio in 2005. Tevildo (talk) 19:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Purple Injection

After a bicycle crash today, I was taken to hospital, and amongst other things, had to have a CT scan done. During the process, I was given what was described to me as a purple liquid by injection. The radiographer did not tell me what the name of the liquid was. It produces a very warm feeling in the body (especially 'between the legs' for some reason) and a strange taste in the mouth. Does anyone know what it is? KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 19:41, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See Radiocontrast agent. There are several types of agent listed there - as yours was purple, it's reasonable to assume it's based on iodine rather than barium. It'll probably be on your medical notes; I believe we have a right to see them in the UK. I know I always get reams of paperwork to take away with me whenever I go to hospital. Hope you recover from the crash soon, of course. Tevildo (talk) 20:18, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! And thanks! I was looking to see if there were any other side-effects, because I am severely itchy all over, and related articles say that itchiness is a side effect of the iodine-based ones. I don't know which one she used, though, it seems they all have the same side-effects. KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 21:57, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Without wishing to cross the line, I'm sure that a person who had been injected with such an agent would have been advised about going back to A&E if they were to have a serious allergic reaction to it. Or to press their buzzer if they were still on the ward. But confidence can be had that the RD regulars are sensible. ;) Tevildo (talk) 22:21, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I should mention that there should be a Patient's Bill of Rights which entitles you to know everything they inject into you, and for you to approve or reject it. If somebody told me they were going to inject "purple liquid" into me and refused to tell me what I was, there's no way I would allow it. StuRat (talk) 22:43, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not likely that she refused to tell him. People who are about to get a CT to check for broken bones are usually not in a frame of mind to listen to detailed explanations, and unless the patient asks questions, most medical assistants will just say something like, "this is something we use to make the scan work better". Looie496 (talk) 03:20, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The relevant UK legislation is the Health Act 2009, the NHS Constitution, and the Health and Social Care Act 2012. The right to refuse treatment and the right of access to medical records are in Section 3a of the NHS Constitution. I'm not sure about the exact legal status of this document, though. Tevildo (talk) 23:20, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Pure personal research, but I had a kidney contrast radiograph some years ago and was injected with an iodine based contrast medium. I also experienced those warm feelings in patches all over my body with some slight itching for a couple of days afterwards. Based on the similarity of our experiences I think it very likely that you had an iodine based injection. Richard Avery (talk) 05:48, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you are feeling better KT. Two anecdotes to offer. Firstly, someone I know was given a dye before a scan and got very itchy and was told that it contained a dye made from shellfish - something she was allergic to. Secondly, another friend udergoing chemo was warned that the particular concoction she was on that week would give her a similar 'warm tingly between the legs' effect. She quite enjoyed it! 83.104.128.107 (talk) 13:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I am fine now. Just on painkillers, and hoping my bruising will go down soon. As for the itchiness, I have asked a few friends who have also had it, and it seems to be the norm. Regarding the tingly feeling between the legs, the first thing I said out (very) loud when it happened was "WTF?!?!" It was quite surprising. KägeTorä - () (Chin Wag) 23:38, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

August 7

Accuracy of Grad rockets

The BM-21 Grad page says rockets can be fired between 20 and 30 km depending on the type, but are they usefully accurate at that range? I'm wondering how far away you could launch them from and still have a worthwhile chance of hitting, say, a garden shed, if you knew in advance where the shed was. Or are Grad systems really just for randomly hitting large areas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.119.181 (talk) 13:02, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The BM-21 Grad is a 60s variety of the WW2-era Katyusha rocket launcher or "Stalin organ". Its projectiles are neither guided missiles nor individually aimed. The weapon's strengths are its mobility and quick delivery of a devastating amount of explosives to a target area. It has lower precision than classical artillery and cannot be used in situations that call for pinpoint precision. It relies on a large number of shells dissipating over an area for a certain hit rate on specific targets. It would be inadvisable to stand closer than +/- 3 σ away from your garden shed if that is what a BM-21 Grad is aimed at where σ =Standard deviation depends on firing range and assumed Gaussian spread of impacts. See Multiple rocket launcher for some history. 84.209.89.214 (talk) 13:40, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What, so you're saying I shouldn't try this at home?? ;) 129.67.119.181 (talk) 15:57, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

why am I being contacted?

"I did't complete the sign up application and closed the page when they wanted access to my contact list--NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT...BUT now I'm getting requests to link with me from friends on my LIST---WHY ?" help me to be comfortable and secure please !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:0:5500:200:6C44:8D4A:3AD4:E00 (talk) 14:18, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't do this. Which website are you talking about? 129.67.119.181 (talk) 15:50, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
LinkedIn, Facebook, G+? Whatever, maybe you're in their contact list and they gave access. —Tamfang (talk) 04:18, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Are Facebook "About" pages linked to the original Wikipedia pages?

Hello,

I am working on some maintenance of my company's social media presence. Currently we have a Facebook organization/about page that I would like to delete completely. However, the text was generated from Wikipedia, and I want to know: IF I delete this page, will this action also cause the original Wikipedia page to be deleted? Because I do not want that.

I appreciate your help and prompt attention.

Kindest regards,

Sonia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.19.129.210 (talk) 18:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Facebook and Wikipedia are not linked (in fact most of those Facebook pages reflect old, and often errant, versions of our articles). Any action you take while on Facebook will not affect Wikipedia's pages.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 18:24, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The only connection between Facebook and Wikipedia is that Facebook often copies content from Wikipedia (which is allowed, providing they cite Wikipedia as a source). Wikipedia and Facebook have no control whatsoever over each other. As WilliamThweatt above said, deleting a page on Facebook which has been copied from Wikipedia will absolutely not harm the original Wikipedia article in any way. And in turn, deleting a Wikipedia article which has been copied to Facebook will probably not affect the Facebook page. JIP | Talk 18:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, we also copy their content for info in Facebook. And when they change their stuff, it affects us. That was 2011 info, anyway. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:43, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

August 8

B-Type Bus Photos

I am writing an article on the B-Type bus I have my own current photos but would like to use the two black & white ones you are showing of it converted to pigeon and troop carrier, am I allowed to re-use? if I give credit to you???

Many Thanks Mr D.Wiffen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.167.200 (talk) 15:01, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To find licencing and permissions for any image on Wikipedia, you can view its description page, such as this one: File:B340LA9928RearView7May2006.jpg, where it specifies:

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license
You are free:
  • to share – to copy, distribute and transmit the work
  • to remix – to adapt the work
Under the following conditions:
  • attribution – You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

The file's description page can be found by right-clicking on it. —Note that on the bottom-right of the LGOC B-type article there is a link to Commons where related images can be found; often more than are included in the article itself. →
The old B&W photos you mentioned are probably in the public domain, but it is wise to check the image description page.
I hope this helps, ~E:71.20.250.51 (talk) 16:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

linking of production

construction where production exceeds stated value of $2 million or equivalent in riyals-what are advantage of production in Saudi Arabia to levels of Western technology? Why increase of share for steel in Jiddiya AFC or Himal Brothers... is expansion or constriction more desirable? Please I have been trying to contact with no answer-why Wikipedia not acknowledge technology-they should have pages named for them-Jiddiya and Himal Brothers prime customer in Saudi economy SURELY if no article created shows anti-Saudi bias-why this show of Western kaffir discriminate-when articles of rogue Zion state Israel create under Zion protocols and exist because Wikipedia must be anti-Muslim Please to contact me to produce such article also ouguiya article not currency of Mauritania-blessed Islam state-but other ouguiyA. Alcohol create problems of dry skin,tremens,trembling,failing of the member of sexual potency,limp and flabby weapon-how to solve this to be great warrior of Islam-why this create so articles to lead away non-believer. Please help to solve question that I have to be glorifying great Islamic site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.213.216 (talk) 18:35, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note that Google does not attest the existence of "Jiddiya AFC" (Al-Ahli SC (Jeddah), perhaps?), or "Himal Brothers". There's Himal Southasian, a Nepalese magazine, and there's a "Himel Brothers" in Toronto, but nothing apparently in Saudi Arabia. WP:AGF, and that, but I suspect the question may be a little disingenuous. Tevildo (talk) 19:13, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about disingenuous,but as far as I can seem the question is more than a little gobbledegook... Lemon martini (talk) 20:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. It's true that there are many biases on Wikipedia. There is nothing sinister about this: Wikipedia is created by volunteers, who write about the things that interest them. So there are many topics which have not been written about just because there has not yet been anybody who was interested enough in that topic. If you see topics which we have not got articles about, you are very welcome to contribute such articles, but please make sure you follow all Wikipedia's rules and guidelines (see my first article). --ColinFine (talk) 22:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On royal weddings

Since all weddings to be legal have to have the bit 'if any man here knows any reason why these people should not be legally married,let them speak now or forever hold his peace'-that would apply even to royal weddings. So how would an objection to the wedding be dealt with? It seems like a prime chance for a nut who wants their five seconds to fame to pipe up-I'm assuming if you had a genuine reason,you'd have got in touch with the powers that be at St.James'Palace and pointed it out to them... Lemon martini (talk) 20:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First, the nut would have to get onto the guest list... HiLo48 (talk) 21:48, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Who says that phrase is required in order to make the marriage "legal"? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots00:39, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. The entire ceremony, including that part, is optional. All you typically need is a witness or two when you sign the wedding license. StuRat (talk) 00:47, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In Britain you don't sign a licence (you do sign the register though). And There are legal requirements for the ceremony. DuncanHill (talk) 00:50, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I can imagine they might want to ensure that both parties agree of their own free will, are who they claim to be, aren't married, and are of legal age. Is that what you mean by "legal requirements" ? StuRat (talk) 00:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, things have been relaxed a bit lately, but for a church wedding there has to be the reading of the banns over the weeks before the wedding. It also used to be the case that weddings could only be contracted in the morning. I think the CofE has to use one of its recognized forms of service. DuncanHill (talk) 01:02, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
By "church" (not "Church") we mean Roman Catholic? μηδείς (talk) 02:09, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No. DuncanHill (talk) 02:13, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan

Are there any non-Muslim tribes in Afghanistan (specifically North Afghanistan)? Thanks in advance! 24.5.122.13 (talk) 02:02, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

From a quick perusal of Demographics of Afghanistan and Religion in Afghanistan it would not appear so. Of course, the Nuristanis had their own religion prior to conversion in the 1890's, but I'm not aware of any other candidates. DuncanHill (talk) 02:09, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Define "Muslim tribe", please. μηδείς (talk) 02:10, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A tribe where Islam is the only sanctioned religion, or the religion adopted by the chiefs/elders in the name of the whole tribe. 24.5.122.13 (talk) 02:26, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect it is a tribe whose members have historically practiced Islam in some great proportion. --Jayron32 02:28, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(un-indent) After perusing Religion in Afghanistan, I've found that there are some VERY small (and persecuted) minority groups in Afghanistan that practice Hinduism, Sikhism, Christianity, and (possibly) Zoroastrianism. But does anyone happen to know which parts of the country they can be found in? 24.5.122.13 (talk) 02:31, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The US Department of State suggests Kabul as the most likely place to find non-Muslims in Afghanistan. DuncanHill (talk) 02:38, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Any places up north, like Mazari-Sharif? 24.5.122.13 (talk) 03:17, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've not been able to find any. Probably a hundred years or so too late. DuncanHill (talk) 03:44, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Do the Juggi people count? 24.5.122.13 (talk) 03:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Canadian winners subject to skills testing requirement"

This odd line is on my receipt from Applebee's, where doing a survey enters you into a contest. So, what the heck does it mean ? Is this some attempt to verify that the entrant is an adult ? StuRat (talk) 03:24, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WHAAOE wins again. See Skill testing question. --Jayron32 03:26, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I see. In the US they typically have to say "No purchase required" to make it not legally be gambling. Of course, they make you write a letter to their HQ to get your free entry, and the cost of the postage (not to mention your time) is always far more than the entry is worth. StuRat (talk) 03:32, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]