Talk:1991 Los Angeles runway collision

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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. Discussions: Moved, 4 October 2024, to 1991 Los Angeles Airport runway collision, see discussion. Moved, 25 October 2024, from 1991 Los Angeles Airport runway collision to 1991 Los Angeles runway collision, see discussion.

I have merged the page Los Angeles International Airport air disaster into this page as both articles covered the same event. Both pages contained nearly identical information, however this page had slightly more detailed information about the incident, and appeared to be a more complete page. In addition, the title of this page is less cumbersome.Supaluminal 12:05, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody fix this page. On the right it says there were 83 passengers and 6 crew with 77 survivors (implicating 12 deaths), for a total of 89 souls aboard. In the article it says there are 99 and 22 perished. Obviously, the right hand column should be fixed to say 93 passengers.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.175.154.213 (talk • contribs)

@Shelbystripes: there were 89 souls on the 737, 83 were passengers. You'll find that in the source [1] on PDF page 37 (page 30 in the paper document). You'll also find that broken down in a table on PDF page 15. It does say in the Executive Summary that there were 89 passengers. That appears to be a typo and is to be ignored. The error was most likely a miscommunication on the meaning of "passengers", resulting in the crew being counted twice. It's surprising to see this in an FAA accident investigation report, but there it is. Geogene (talk) 04:26, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Geogene:, that's interesting. The rest of the report does line up with 89 total aboard, on the pages you mention. I went ahead and changed the description in the body of the article to match this as well. I am uncomfortable just saying that something in an official report "is to be ignored", though. When information is inconsistent (within the same source, no less) there should be something to point to that makes clear to the reader why the information presented is correct. I'm surprised by the mistake, but more surprised the NTSB didn't issue a corrected report (if they did, I can't find any evidence of it). I will think about how to address this in the article, so that future readers aren't confused when they look at the source material. Shelbystripes (talk) 19:59, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I was really expecting to be proven wrong here. Yes, a footnote, hidden comment, or both are probably called for so the article doesn't endlessly shift between the two. Geogene (talk) 20:22, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I added a detailed footnote, and included a New York Times article that quoted USAir officials. They were reporting 83 passengers, 6 crew to the media, as well. Shelbystripes (talk) 21:06, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, I was wondering why this article wasn't titled 1991 LAX Runway Collision. The current title of USAir Flight 1493 seems to undermine Skywest 5569 at a first glance. I couldn't find any archives about this, so I'm bringing up the question here. Tntad (talk) 02:44, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your suspicion is correct. According to WP:DISASTER, the article title should have the event and location instead of the flight number if multiple aircraft are involved. I'll move the page to a more appropriate title shortly. Funplussmart (talk) 23:08, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that controller Wascher would be arrested and charged with either negligence and/or manslaughter. Any information on that? Tigerdude9 (talk) 20:26, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I need to edit the article to include the controller's name,Robin Wascher. Anyone know how editing works? Minecraft Fake pro (talk) 17:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

push the Crayon/Pencil PlaneCrashKing1264 (talk) 14:02, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Has anyone been able to determine how many flights Wascher and other controllers were responsible for at a given time? 2601:440:C080:D270:A87C:C1E1:3F63:5626 (talk) 00:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]