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We don't seem to have a good free image yet but I suppose one is coming. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait, it’s not Sep 29 yet. 64.114 etc 21:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose should be nominated next week. But also this article is just a stub. Natg 19 (talk) 21:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait until it actually comes into orbit, but also Oppose on quality - article is a stub. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait interesting, but not news yet This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment given that there is estimated to be one Temporary satellite in orbit at any time, and per the see also list we've identified a previously unknown case once every two years, roughly, this seems to fall more on a trivia side suited for DYK than ITN. Masem (t) 21:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Every two years since 2020, anyway. —Cryptic 01:29, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait, pretty cool and notable but hasn't happened yet Personisinsterest (talk) 23:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait A new moon for Earth is a major note in astronomy and can be very interesting to non-astronomers too. I should say wait for September 29 to post though. High Admiral JMT (talk) 00:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• While Masem's overstating his case a bit, I think everyone else is doing the same for theirs, too. This is a 10m-wide rock; I can't find a prediction for maximum expected apparent magnitude, but current observations are about +22.1, and the back of my envelope says it can't possibly get brighter than +19.4. Some of the sources above say it "won't be visible to the naked eye", which is one heck of an understatement; it'll be at least 200x dimmer than Pluto, you're going to need a serious telescope to see it, and while Andrew's right that we'll probably get free images of it, expect it to look a lot closer to our ones of Eris than our ones of Eros. I'm all for posting interesting news, especially interesting astronomy news, but c'mon. We don't even post lunar eclipses, and at least people can go outside and look at those. —Cryptic 02:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose, now and whenever this is nominated again. This is hardly a situation worth calling Earth getting a "new moon". It's a rock that will be here a bit and then it will be gone. Yawn. DarkSide830 (talk) 03:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose: this is popsci trivia. Even the byline for the NYTimes article that was linked says It’s just a little guy, and not everyone agrees that it’s actually a mini-moon. Also, Despite its possible lunar ancestry, the object may not technically count as a mini-moon. To normally qualify, an asteroid must orbit Earth fully at least once; 2024 PT5 will perform a horseshoe-shaped orbit. “It certainly won’t complete one full revolution in the Earth-moon system this fall, so I’m not sure I would classify it as a mini-moon’” said Lance Benner, the principal investigator of the asteroid radar research program at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 04:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huge escalation of the conflict in the middle east, every single media outlet is talking about it. Scuba 19:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Now, this is a major escalation in the conflict. A such large death toll and that too in Lebanon makes this attack blurbworthy. I think I am gonna change my vote on the ongoing entry as well now. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 19:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose This is significant, but this is still relatively commonplace. Also keep in mind that there will likely be further escalations. Personisinsterest (talk) 23:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Support in the event of major escalation, more casualties and maybe I should change my vote on the upcoming and split of the conflicts. QalasQalas (talk) 20:08, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose The pager attack was novel but Israeli airstrikes are commonplace, just like Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthi rocket attacks. As a daily occurrence, they are best covered by Ongoing. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Covered by ongoing. Jehochman ^Talk 20:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Which ongoing? this is Israel hezbollah war, not hamas Afif Brika1 (talk) 03:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support — Significant, even within the broader Middle East crisis. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Andrew. While larger than usual, Israeli airstrikes in Lebanon aren't uncommon, and this is moreso part of the pager attacks' wave of escalation rather than being uniquely escalatory themselves. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as it'll likely be posted at this point, propose ALT2. Better wording IMO, and virtually all RSes mention that the strikes were at least intended to target Hezbollah, though they've unsurprisingly resulted in massive collateral damage/civilian casualties too. The Kip ^(contribs) 04:26, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support These are the deadliest attacks in Lebanon since the 06 war. It's a stretch to argue this is covered by ongoing. This should replace or be added to the blurb about the pager attacks.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - > 10 times the causalities of the pagers and radios. To those claiming covered by ongoing, I do not see Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) listed in ongoing. starship.paint (RUN) 00:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support not covered by ongoing, and with 500 people dying in a single day, it's pretty blurbworthy. Kline • talk • contribs 01:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 02:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support a very major attack on a sovereign nation by an another sovereign nation. We posted the pager attack and the number of deaths is 10x than that attack. LiamKorda 03:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per above. Very clearly NOT covered in ongoing and a fairly large escalation of conflict between Israel and Lebanon. DarkSide830 (talk) 03:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Australian bass guitarist and member of The Easybeasts. Death announced on 22 September. 240F:7A:6253:1:B4B6:28B7:28ED:B519 (talk) 00:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Almost Ready. The Discography section just needs to be sourced. After that, the article looks good to go. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Almost there as per above it needs just sourced discography. Ping me when that's done. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Influential American literary critic, philosopher, and Marxist political theorist. Author of Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism and The Political Unconscious. Thriley (talk) 23:09, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support RD in principle. One section requires additional citations, otherwise once fixed the article is good to go. Withdrawn vote. Tofusaurus (talk) 23:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose multiple cn tags, one orange tagged section and almost entirely unsourced publications section. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:34, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: A new head of state was elected, and this was the first time a second round of counting was needed in Sri Lankan history.

Updated the fields Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 15:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait aftermath section needs to be expanded and needs more sources. The winner's article needs to be updated with a section about his victory. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait it seems like per infobox, he is going to be sworn in as president of Sri Lanka on 24 September, can say there is only a single day till his inauguration which instead of election, we could post about he is sworn in as president into main page. Anyway the article needs more expansion and references. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 17:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per ITN/R Scuba 20:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per above. Ornithoptera (talk) 22:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support national election, change in control of the executive. Doubly ITN/R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:37, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per ITN/R Tofusaurus (talk) 23:13, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above. Change in control of executive, also victory of a third-party candidate. Not Wlwtn (talk) 01:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above IDB.S (talk) 03:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per ITN/R. †TyphoonAmpil† (💬 - 📝 - 🌀 - Tools) 03:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support National election. Very important. High Admiral JMT (talk) 04:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support altblurb 2, National election so automatic qualification per WP:ITNELECTIONS. I think alt blub 2 provides the best context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.44.224.222 (talk) 09:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per all above, article is in alright shape. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article: 45th Chess Olympiad (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ India wins both, the open and the women's events, at the 45th Chess Olympiad (Open board one winner Gukesh Dommaraju pictured) (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 45th Chess Olympiad (best individual player Gukesh Dommaraju pictured) concludes with India winning both the Open and Women's events.
News source(s): FirstPost (India)
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kiril Simeonovski (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Open event winners identified. Should know of the women's event gold medalists soon. Both results are now in. Very nice work by ITN regular Kiril Simeonovski on the articles. Ktin (talk) 14:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support the blurb, but not sure if the photo merits inclusion, because there are multiple winners. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 14:40, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment India won the women's event also. --Lekhak93 (talk) 15:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Not ready a large part of the prose in the main article is still in the future tense and needs to be updated. Both the events' articles are missing information regarding the 11th round, with open event 10th round summary being incomplete. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:01, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Agree re: the first statement, and if there are tense issues that need to be remedied, they can be remedied before the article goes to the mainpage. However, there is no gating expectation on the non-bold articles. Only the bolded one needs to be examined. Ktin (talk) 17:36, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I’ll update the articles in a few hours.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Edits seems to have been done and the bolded article is ready for mainpage imo. Nice work. Ktin (talk) 00:26, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support A chess olympiad is important enough to be in the ITN. High Admiral JMT (talk) 04:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, good quality article. Congratulations to the editors ! Alexcalamaro (talk) 05:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I've updated all articles by adding reports from the last round as well as summaries from both events. In addition, it makes more sense to use the wording of the blurb that we used in 2018 when China won the titles in both events (see the alternative blurb).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted with altblurb for ENGVAR purposes. Black Kite (talk) 14:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How come this was posted? This seems to be a youth event (Olympiad) and not the adult competition which (as far as I am aware) gets more publicity. Is this ITNR? QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? This is not a youth event. This is the main biennial Chess Olympiad, with many top players including Magnus Carlson, Fabiano Carauna, etc participating. Also, the Chess Olympiad is ITNR. Natg 19 (talk) 19:00, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

†TyphoonAmpil† (💬 - 📝 - 🌀 - Tools) 10:20, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose unsourced filmography and other acting roles. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:09, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not Ready. Sources are still required. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

South African politician and formerly, the longest serving South African MP. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 06:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support meets the minimum requirement. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:37, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per nom †TyphoonAmpil† (💬 - 📝 - 🌀 - Tools) 10:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Article is in an adequate shape. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:08, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 11:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: American professional football player. Needs some work Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:15, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not Ready. The orange tag needs to be resolved along with several unsourced sections. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet Post-football career section needs more sources but the rest of the article is in a good shape now. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: American sportscaster Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:49, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support besides a rather archaic list of sports trivia, his article has no major problems. I feel rest of the article is of a high enough quality to include despite the orange tag. Scuba 02:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would just remove that entire section. Natg 19 (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Multiple tagged sourcing issues.—Bagumba (talk) 04:54, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose three orange tagged sections and multiple cn tags in others. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

American politician from the state of Washington. Died yesterday, announced today. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 21:18, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sunshineisles2, shouldn't this be in the September 20 section? We put entries by date of event/death, not date of nomination. Aza24 (talk) 22:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aza24: I've seen it done either way, if memory serves. I tend to go by the date a death was announced, since if someone died two weeks ago but it wasn't publicly announced until today, their article would presumably still be nominated, even if nominations for the actual date of death had been archived. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 23:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support RIP to another Pacific Northwest political legend; article is in good enough for ITN but some prose adjustments would do. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 02:19, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Senator, governor, and his article looks good. Scuba 02:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article is in a good shape. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:40, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 11:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted Australian chef. Death announced on 21 September. 240F:7A:6253:1:B152:A2D8:5EEC:B1EC (talk) 14:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose multiple issues, no way near ready to be posted. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:42, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose article in pretty bad shape. Scuba 17:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: I believe recent events have shown that this is very much merits ongoing status. The parent Israel–Hezbollah conflict article requires a lot of work, but the more specific Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) looks fine. Also I know that the Israel-Hamas war article is already in ongoing but although inter-linked, this really isn't the same conflict. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I’m split on this one. Half of me thinks it merits it’s own ongoing but the other half thinks it’s covered by ongoing (spillover). 2407:E400:D004:BA01:38AE:EBE1:FE49:CF65 (talk) 11:13, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support It is now a separate conflict. Prodrummer619 (talk) 11:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment A fourth ongoing at this point (likely with also a timeline link) is going to spill over into three lines, and that's not really going to be good. Either we recognize this is considered a spillover of the Israel-Hamas conflict (only having gained a bump in the news due to the pager attacks), or something like the Sudan civil war should go (which arguably, hasn't had a lot of major events in the last few weeks). Also, the Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) is not in great shape as it mostly just a timeline article with little attempt to give a larger narrative to the conflict, which is typical of these long-term current event articles and don't represent the best way to write encyclopedically about these events. --Masem (t) 12:18, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternatively, we could include the Israel-Hezbollah conflict as part of the parenthetical after the Israel-Hamas war (eg "Israel–Hamas war (Hezbollah conflict, timeline)" which might be able to keep it on two lines, still include it but also still recognize it as closely associated with the Hamas conflict. --Masem (t) 12:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    That sounds like a good idea. While we’re at it maybe we should add the JNIM insurgency 2407:E400:D004:BA01:38AE:EBE1:FE49:CF65 (talk) 12:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No, the issue is still space. We can add a couple more words before it slips into 3 lines Masem (t) 13:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Fair enough. 2407:E400:D004:BA01:38AE:EBE1:FE49:CF65 (talk) 18:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait - To see if the current period of heightened tensions between Israel and Hezbollah following the pager attack continues after the blurb rolls off. Obviously if a full conflict starts then we put this in ongoing. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait - Per above, no ground invasion of southern Lebanon yet. If the situation escalates that far then it's safe to say this will be an ongoing conflict. Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:37, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moderate Support it’s getting more heated now and i support giving its own ongoing but it could easily get taken off IMO Ion.want.uu (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait Pending re-evaluation of conflict escalation in the next 1-2 weeks. Spencer^T•C 19:49, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait until boots are on the ground. Scuba 02:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait per above †TyphoonAmpil† (💬 - 📝 - 🌀 - Tools) 04:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support This is a significant armed conflict that merits inclusion and which would have already been posted onto ongoing had there not been the Israel-Hamas conflict. We cannot downplay the significance of this ongoing event just because it involves Israel again or because we have posted too many ongoing wars. Yes, it's not ideal to use ongoing only for wars, but the discussion on its purpose should be carried out on the talk page.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose On one hand it's separate from the occupation of Gaza and the ongoing ethnic cleansing in the West Bank. But it's all related. There's indications that Israel may invade both the West Bank and Lebanon as well - do we then create 4 ongoings? I'd support renaming the current ongoing to cover all of Israel and it's enemies ongoing military actions, war crimes, and violations of international law. Nfitz (talk)

Wait until things escalate more. We don't know yet whether this heat up will last longer. Also, having four ongoing entries (with brackets) will be too much. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:45, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion Put Arab-israeli conflict (or something like that) and then in parenthesis put the hamas and Hezbollah ones separate? Sportsnut24 (talk) 09:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That article is way too high level, covering decades of conflict, to be useful as a main page link — Masem (t) 16:00, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why don’t we create a new article then titled something along the lines of “Arab-Israeli Conflict (2023-Present)” (unless that article already exists lol) Ion.want.uu (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps pluralize "conflict". Nfitz (talk) 20:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is where we have to be careful with original research. I'm not saying that such sources dont exist, but we need to make sure if we start grouping news topics, we are following how sources do it. If we're grouping them just because we think they are connected without sourcing to back that up (which again, I don't think this is the case but we should be sure), we're engaging in original research Masem (t) 22:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really OR since it clearly exists. Palestine, Lebanon AND Yemen have been in conflict over the last almost 12 months. The only connection is that they are all Arabs so it would make sense.Sportsnut24 (talk) 08:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"The only connection is that they are all Arabs" is absolutely original research that would be a problem if sources did not link these topics already. — Masem (t) 16:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can see this argument, but I also wonder how we can distill all these conflicts into a single topic so as to not clutter the main page. I'm assuming readers aren't going to want to jump around to 2 or 3 different Israel x <Group> conflict pages. ? Kcmastrpc (talk) 16:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a good article (needs some sprucing up) to fit the bill: Spillover of the Israel–Hamas warSportsnut24 (talk) 08:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait per above. The pager explosions were a notable escalation, and the airstrikes/rocket strikes have ramped up in intensity, but IMO unless a full-scale invasion happens it's not quite at the level for ongoing yet. Agree with at least waiting until the pager blurb rolls off. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support now There has been significant recent escalation in the conflict that may be worth placing it in ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New news from Albania, Edi Rama plans to create a new city-state enclave in Tirana. Di (they-them) (talk) 23:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait until it is actually approved by all necessary entities and the state formally created. Plans can easily change this early. --Masem (t) 23:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Let's include them when the state is actually created, not when the state has been announced as planned to exist one day in the eventual future. Scuba 02:20, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait until the plans are actually acted upon. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hold until, and if, this happens This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not Now. Only just an announcement. I'd wait until the new city-state is formally established. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 07:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait until it is officially established. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

wait New states are definately notably (last being South Sudan), but let's see it be more than a plan. Will it be an UN state? Will it just be another puppet state for UN voted (likely)?Sportsnut24 (talk) 09:54, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support It's interesting and it's in the news but ITN is determined to stay stale so I've nominated it for DYK. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:19, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait Until it is officially established, the announcement of pending legislation does not guarantee that the state can exist until everything is passed. Ornithoptera (talk) 22:14, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait, but obvious support if/when it actually comes into existence. A new country being established would be huge news. It helps that it would involve Albania voluntarily giving up a piece of its own land, as this means there would (probably) be no major disputes preventing it from attaining recognition and legitimacy within the international community. But for all we know, this plan might never go anywhere. We'll just have to wait for now.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 10:25, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait until the Albanian parliament formally approves the proposal. Johndavies837 (talk) 10:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose until the state is actually established and approved by necessary parties. Natg 19 (talk) 17:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait for actual establishment of the state. Agree that it's noteworthy enough if/when it happens. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait until whenever this state is created. It’ll definitely be noteworthy enough for a blurb at that point. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great music crtic. Article has been fully sourced for some time, and is now updated. Aza24 (talk) 21:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support seems good enough to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. No problems found. Looks good to go. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:34, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Ready for posting. Jusdafax (talk) 12:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: First person executed by South Carolina in 13 years -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 07:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait the article needs to be rewritten in some parts to remove some excess information and there are multiple sources that are repeated as different source. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:49, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support A notable execution. The article seems great enough. High Admiral JMT (talk) 07:30, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Structure is great and is well sourced. No problems found. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: English actress Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose on quality, the article has several cn tags. Suonii180 (talk) 14:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose lot of citation needed tags †TyphoonAmpil† (💬 - 📝 - 🌀 - Tools) 04:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose multiple cn tags. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Indian actress Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose it is a listicle with very little prose plus the tables and lists are unsourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: British actor Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 22:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support David Graham is a pretty notable actor for voicing Grandpa Pig in Peppa Pig, making him mostly pretty well-known. User:High Admiral JMTUser talk:High Admiral JMT 02:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All people with a Wikipedia article are presumed notable for RD as any other criteria (like whether voicing extended family on a popular children's cartoon passes the line) are subjective and arbitrary. Unknown Temptation (talk) 13:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Graham is especially notable since Peppa Pig is a world-famous show for children. High Admiral JMT (talk) 00:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait prose is sourced, filmography isn't, but those who know the subject would know where to source that very quickly. Unknown Temptation (talk) 13:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait prose is good enough but filmography is missing sources. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I would say "Wait" on this since it may grow into an ITN discussion (Israel says 10 senior commanders were killed Barrons) Prodrummer619 (talk) 17:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment shouldn't this be Ibrahim Aqil (militant) rather than disambiguation by organisation name? Abcmaxx (talk) 21:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support while there is discussion pending on renaming the article, that shouldn't hold this back from posting as it is in a good shape. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:54, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

British actor who played a major character on the television soap opera Coronation Street for over ten years. I have updated the article (although I was not logged in, oops) to include his Coronation Street accomplishments. Have already updated the article and skimmed through to address any non-cited claims. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Almost Ready. The Filmography section needs to be sourced. It is also tagged as a stub, so if any other information can be written about the subject, that'd be great. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 06:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Almost ready just two cn tags and some of the unsourced filmography needs to be addressed. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Looks good and well sourced. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:15, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Looks alright to me. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 08:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support seems alright to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 18:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Indonesian-born American technology executive. Found the article at Deaths_in_2024; Article seems to be in good nick for the main page. Ktin (talk) 02:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Very popular Georgian trans model who has been murdered the day after the country's parliament passed an anti-LGTBI propaganda law, shocking the country. I'm just finishing expanding her article, but it may already be enough to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 08:14, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article seems good enough. Rynoip (talk) 08:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support RIP Kesaria 🏳️‍⚧️. The article is in a good enough shape. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Needs section clean-up but otherwise well cited and comprehensive. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support meets bare minimum requirement but a little expansion would be nice. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:57, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

American blues musician. 240F:7A:6253:1:D41F:54E5:B447:E0BB (talk) 02:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose It's always the unsourced discography that holds musician articles up. Bremps... 03:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not Ready. Due to the usual reason. The Discography section along with two paragraphs in the biography needs sources. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 06:19, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article seems alright to me now. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 07:58, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment There are several {{additional citation(s) needed}} tags in the article. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Armenian intelligence service announced it has thwarted a pro-Russian coup by elements of a Russian financed, trained, and equipped militia. Scuba 00:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Let's wait for some more information to trickle in. How would a coup with less than a dozen people have worked? Bremps... 02:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oppose there is nothing reliable about this accusation. The article shouldn't even exist. There are no protests now either. There'd be some reaction on the ground if this was anything but a nothing-burger.Sportsnut24 (talk) 05:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait For the moment, it seems to be an Armenian government claim. We'll see if any further info comes out. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Does not appear to be that noteworthy to me as there was no actual coup attempt carried out. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 08:01, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obit published 18 September. Needs expansion. Thriley (talk) 18:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not Ready. Just a single sentence with little to almost nothing written. Per nom, this article will need some serious work and expansion. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 23:44, 19 September 2024 (UTC) Changing to Support. Much much better! Excellent work expanding the article. Cheers. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:30, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article is in good shape enow. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 08:02, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Yup, looks good now. I've added the missing ddate of birth to prose. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A former professional footballer and full international for Italy; he was best known for winning both the Golden Ball and the Golden Boot at the 1990 FIFA World Cup and finishing second at the Ballon d'Or of the same year. Rest in peace. Oltrepier (talk) 09:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Needs a little work need some citations for career statistics otherwise pretty good, rip. 2407:E400:D004:BA01:41B9:4789:E394:2B10 (talk) 09:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The article should be in decent shape now, aside of a phrase that needs attention for some evident citing overkill. Oltrepier (talk) 08:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support I think it is ready to be posted now. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 08:02, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Looks good. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 13:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Theatre director mostly of his wonderful wife ;) - stubbish article was there. We have now a ref in English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Short, but acceptable. Sourced. Grimes2 (talk) 13:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article seems alright to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 08:03, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted. ---PFHLai (talk) 12:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Significant attack on a capital city with many casualties. Article looks good. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support A quite high death toll and article is good enough. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 08:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Good article, and the death toll is high enough to be in the ITN. High Admiral JMT talk 00:37, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Per above. Rynoip (talk) 01:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• @Admins willing to post ITN: there seems to be a consensus to post? Abcmaxx (talk) 07:16, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I marked for more input. People might not have seen this ... nominated later and further down the page.—Bagumba (talk) 11:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bagumba: There’s been some more input that supports posting this. Would say that there’s consensus now? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 00:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above, major attack on a national capital. Scuba 16:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support It’s a major attack w/a high death toll & the article’s quality is good enough. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 00:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Football coach, 103. Article is GA. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support since this is GA and has been updated. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 08:04, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 12:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

American singer-songwriter. 240F:7A:6253:1:E924:4E1B:C314:5996 (talk) 04:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Some WP:PROSELINE issues prevent this from being posted on the main page. Bremps... 06:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Not enough citations on the article Rynoip (talk) 22:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose orange tagged because of a lot of information is unsourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 08:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article updated and well sourced. Death announced on this date. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article seems sufficient in terms of covering his life and well-cited. Bremps... 03:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above. Rynoip (talk) 21:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Posted—Bagumba (talk) 02:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Novel and creative escalation in the Israel-Hezbollah conflict (which is not in ongoing, unlike the Israel-Hamas conflict). Sandstein 17:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Actually was just creating a nom for this, added my proposed blurb as an alt.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:27, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I left out the estimated casualty numbers because these are prone to change in the days to come. Sandstein 17:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I was under the impression that this falls under ongoing Israel-Hamas war? Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) started one day after and in direct response to the conflict in Gaza and Hezbollah has made calm with Israel conditional on a ceasefire in Gaza[3].VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 17:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If for some reason the two are separate, then Israel–Hezbollah conflict should be added to ongoing too, which would make this blurb redundant.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 17:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  In a broader sense both Israel–Hamas war and Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) are theatres of the regional conflict between Iran, Israel and their respective allies, but currently we have only Israel–Hamas war in ongoing. Sandstein 17:33, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support The novelty and notability on this escalation are salient. Even if there were an ongoing (and there is not) I'd likely still lean towards supporting a blurb given the singularity of this event. Kcmastrpc (talk) 17:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Support An interesting topic, as well as the blurb. Also this event can be considered as a biggest security breach, more than a month after the Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh. --cyrfaw (talk) 17:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – The sentence reads like Hezbollah triggered the explosions. Should we add "due to a security breach"? FunLater (talk) 17:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The expulsions are really a security breach similar to the one that occurred in Iran last month. The blurb should be improved further since the organization has nothing to do with her --cyrfaw (talk) 17:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose, covered by ongoing the Israel-Hezbollah conflict is considered part of the Israel-Hamas conflict per our articles. (we just had a nom that considered making it a separate ongoing but that didn't gain traction). It is a separate theater but it's very much tied to what's happening in the Gaza strip. Masem (t) 17:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  It's more tied to what's happening in Netanyahu's mind. (Strike as Netanyahu's mind is no longer "ongoing"...) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong support – Major suspected attack in Lebanon with nearly 3,000 injuries, a major escalation in the reignited Hezbollah–Israel conflict. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:02, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Though it can be argued that it's covered by ongoing, I think it is a very serious and rare escalation notable enough of a blurb. Prodrummer619 (talk) 18:11, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. While covered by the ongoing item, this is sufficiently unique and the number of casualties (double digits deaths apparently now and thousands of injuries) merits posting. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 20:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Almost incredible. Netanyahu coincidentally Tweeted about withdrawal of Israeli civilians from the North yesterday? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support not only is it a big escalation, but the way Israel did so is crazy. Scuba 20:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per Patar knight, somewhat covered by ongoing but unusual/escalatory enough it probably merits posting. The Kip ^(contribs) 20:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support an important news and widely covered.

QalasQalas (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait The article has a rainbow of multiple cleanup/dispute tags. And the technical details of the incident(s) still seem uncertain and subject to much speculation. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose on quality issues for now.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 22:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait and oppose Hezbollah mention - The page clearly still needs cleanup and the situation is developing. Many of those caught in the attacks do not seem to have a clear connection to Hezbollah, so while this may have been intended to target members of that organisation it could also have been a more general terrorist attack against pager users in the country (with Hezbollah happening to be a major user of pagers in the country) and it is not only misleading but potentially dangerous to jump the gun in making assumptions here. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 22:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• 'Support. Large number of casualties. The news is making international headlines. – Anne drew
• Support on notability sheer scale of injuries together with the highly unusual tactics deployed makes this notable. Cleanup tags need to be addressed first before posting. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, then Support Page needs a bit of clean-up and development. Other than that, this is unique and is significant enough to exclude it from the "covered by ongoing" argument in my opinion. This type of attack has never been seen on such a massive scale, and the damages could be tremendous. Hungry403 (talk) 02:33, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Front-page news across the world. Noah, BSBA^Talk 02:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Immediate Support Should be up for tomorrow. Alexysun (talk) 02:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oppose per masem. unless there is something bigger out of this in retaliation.

Also the article ays lebanon and the blurb says syria.Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is being discussed. Bremps... 06:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - unusual event, global coverage. Significant per Hungry403. Mjroots (talk) 05:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Posted. I find that there is a WP:ROUGHCONSENSUS to post, and that the articles, while they could use improvement, are nevertheless serviceable. El_C 05:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a tag on there that held up posts for Fujimori. So why does this get through?Sportsnut24 (talk) 08:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sportsnut24: the article is tag-free, as it was when I added my support at 05:34. Mjroots (talk) 09:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mjroots @El C, as evidenced by the talk page, it still has several outstanding POV issues. The tag was removed prematurely.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 12:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@El C Change the title to mention communication devices in general instead of just pagers per the recent developments. Reuters Prodrummer619 (talk) 15:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Briefly because I'm writing in haste. I stand by my decision and am not pulling the blurb. Any other requests can be handled by any other admin. Thank you. El_C 23:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE there is a big orange tag on the article, which is this allowed on the page? It should be pulled until sorted, like fujimori.2A00:F3C:A282:0:5097:3DB:7890:50B7 (talk) 06:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contentious topic and so has all the usual aggravation and issues that they generate. The article still has a big orange {{POV}} tag, just like it did when I commented above. And the technical scope of of the topic has expanded since as it's not just pagers.

As this is obviously part of the general Arab-Israeli conflict, we should perhaps leave all such to Ongoing.

Andrew🐉(talk) 06:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is it an Arab-Israel conflict? The major Arab nations are not involved. And perhaps the biggest issue is non-Arabic Iran. As Israeli troops move further into Lebanon, and Gazify it, we'll have to make this ongoing - presumably combined with Gaza. Is there a name for a group that consists of Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthi, and Iran, etc.? Nfitz (talk) 02:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These and other similar groups all seem to be part of Militant Islamism in the Middle East. They seem to be generally committed to Pan-Islamism rather than the nation states which are partly a relic of earlier colonial empires. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorists. 107.122.193.77 (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment How about we post the explosion video on the main page? Fujimori has been there long enough. Bremps... 18:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Shouldn't the blurb mention that Israel / the Mossad exploded the pagers? Saying that the pagers simply exploded makes it sound like it was just a freak accident or technical malfunction, and mentioning they belonged to Hezbollah without mentioning Israel in any way makes it sound like maybe Hezbollah was the perpetrator as opposed to the target.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 10:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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