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:::: [[Cas Mudde]], who is cited in the ''Vox'' article, mentions another ''Vox'' article in [https://books.google.ca/books?id=lC82DwAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PT59#v=onepage&q&f=false "The Trump phenomenon and the European populist radical right."] Mudde concludes neither Trump nor his ideology are far right, but his core supporters are similar to far right voters in Europe. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 04:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
:::: [[Cas Mudde]], who is cited in the ''Vox'' article, mentions another ''Vox'' article in [https://books.google.ca/books?id=lC82DwAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PT59#v=onepage&q&f=false "The Trump phenomenon and the European populist radical right."] Mudde concludes neither Trump nor his ideology are far right, but his core supporters are similar to far right voters in Europe. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 04:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

TFD, here are a few academic sources to backup the claim that the GOP has shifted more to the far-right:
https://jspp.psychopen.eu/article/view/750/html?t=1∓cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjc18y&refsrc=email&iid=ddaa72fbb4b64454854fea56e6e2fc1b&uid=1188008143&nid=244+272699400
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01419870.2020.1749688
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/koch-network-and-republican-party-extremism/035F3D872B0CE930AF02D7706DF46EEE
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41622724?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents [[Special:Contributions/129.246.254.12|129.246.254.12]] ([[User talk:129.246.254.12|talk]]) 21:25, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


==Center-right party==
==Center-right party==

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Consideration of adding "far-right party" as a description of the Republican Party in the article summary

In all other developed nations on Earth, a party that conducts maneuvering to pull off a majority in the highest court, favors absolute or near absolute deference to an authoritarian-style president, denies of climate change science, practices established intolerance of certain groups and bashing of women's rights, has a primary base of mostly religious fundamentalist voters, amongst others things, would label such a party as far-right. Open for discussion on whether this should be added or not. 129.246.254.12 (talk) 16:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Two things: Most of the world's population do not live in developed countries, and the non-developed countries that they live tend to be more conservative than their developed counterparts, which is to say that what developed countries are like politically is not representative of what the world at large is like politically. That being said, however, I think you might have a case if you found a couple of non-opinion articles from RS that stated that the GOP was far-right. Even then, however, if you want to get past NPOV, you'd probably have to say something like "…some have described them as far right", or something to that effect. Stavd3 (talk) 01:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Using a different laptop to reply. I don't know what RS means. Here are some articles that discuss this"

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21449634/republicans-supreme-court-gop-trump-authoritarian https://prospect.org/culture/books/how-the-right-went-far-right/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/09/16/gop-far-right-trump/ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-there-are-so-few-moderate-republicans-left/ 2600:1003:B101:340C:20AA:8BBA:CCBC:6E2F (talk) 21:37, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"right" has a specific meaning in the reliable sources--having to do with support for established elites and opposition to revolutionary proposals. The checklist of foibled presented above do not qualify--. It is better to start with the reliable published secondary sources written by experts on politics, rather than unsourced private opinions of newly arrived anonymous editors with little experience with political articles. Rjensen (talk) 01:53, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Rjensen, I say the above as a former Republican who has been on the inside (county party orgs, fundraisers, etc.) in prior years. They don't care about moderation; in fact, I was called out for stating that the need to moderate is a pressing one. 2600:1003:B101:340C:20AA:8BBA:CCBC:6E2F (talk) 21:37, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is an exaggeration not supported by political experts. TFD (talk) 07:04, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TFD, I would encourage you to read the article I posted above, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21449634/republicans-supreme-court-gop-trump-authoritarian, which includes political experts sources that discuss a drift into far-right and authoritarian modes of politics and tactics. 129.246.254.12 (talk) 18:13, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
An article by a journalist on a liberal website is insufficient per Exceptional claims require exceptional sources. You would need academic sources that say this views is widely supported which the article does not provide. TFD (talk) 20:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Stavd3, TFD, etc.Rja13ww33 (talk) 20:30, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Mudde, who is cited in the Vox article, mentions another Vox article in "The Trump phenomenon and the European populist radical right." Mudde concludes neither Trump nor his ideology are far right, but his core supporters are similar to far right voters in Europe. TFD (talk) 04:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TFD, here are a few academic sources to backup the claim that the GOP has shifted more to the far-right: https://jspp.psychopen.eu/article/view/750/html?t=1∓cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjc18y&refsrc=email&iid=ddaa72fbb4b64454854fea56e6e2fc1b&uid=1188008143&nid=244+272699400 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01419870.2020.1749688 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/koch-network-and-republican-party-extremism/035F3D872B0CE930AF02D7706DF46EEE https://www.jstor.org/stable/41622724?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents 129.246.254.12 (talk) 21:25, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Center-right party

The center-right and center-left concept should be introduced to this article and the Democratic Party article. There is no need to play around with words. Republican Party is right wing party. Stop all these nonsense 202.9.46.101 (talk) 15:37, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]