User talk:MistyGraceWhite: Difference between revisions

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An article you recently created, Valery Zubov, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please follow the prompts on the Articles for Creation template atop the page. ... discospinster _talk 20:47, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @MistyGraceWhite:, delete your js page and now just copy

importScript('User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js'); // User:Dr pda/prosesize

from

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Dr._Blofeld/common.js&action=edit

into

User:MistyGraceWhite/common.js.

Look in tools on the side and "Page Size".

Don't forget to remove the stub tags and update the talk pages. like this . Can you remove the stub tags at the bottom of the articles and update the talk page tags on ones done so far? Add your entries to the bottom list of the contest page if not competing for prizes, I've added what you've done so far. If you need further help give me a bell, cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:02, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. All of the sources cited on Nabeel Ahmad (entrepreneur) are unusable PR pieces. The article itself is not distinguishable from all the other paid articles on young entrepreneurs we get here on Wikipedia, where all the sources happen to be from the Statesman and other bought WP:SPS.

If you are being paid for this article, we ask that you declare it and only submit articles through WP:AFC.

When the PR pieces have been removed and independant, reliable sources put in place, you can click on the button "Submit your draft for review".

– Thjarkur (talk) 19:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Sulfurboy were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

This is just a press release sources with other press releases.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Nabeel Ahmad (entrepreneur) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Sulfurboy (talk) 21:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, MistyGraceWhite! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Sulfurboy (talk) 21:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry if my previous assumption about the conflict of interest was incorrect, it's just that we get a lot of new paid articles that follow the same format and use the same set of bought sources (Yahoo finance partners, IB Times, Statesmas, Asian Age, etc). It's maybe not surprising that someone who works in PR will have a lot of PR articles about him, but I just couldn't find any coverage on him or any of his companies in independent sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:45, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Þjarkur. Thanks, I added the db-g7 to the draft, but I think it may not be in the right line or something. Can you fix that? MistyGraceWhite (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have fixed, the problem was that you needed to open the source editor instead of the Visual Editor to add the tag. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do not add personal information about other contributors to Wikipedia. Wikipedia operates on the principle that every contributor has the right to remain completely anonymous. Posting personal information about another user is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's harassment policy. Wikipedia policy on this issue is strictly enforced and your edits have been reverted and/or suppressed, not least because such information can appear on web searches. Wikipedia's privacy policy is to protect the privacy of every user, including you. Persistently adding personal information about other contributors will result in being blocked from editing. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Please read this and understand that we can be completely anonymous when writing about the subjects. Salut65 (talk) 22:49, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:Salut65 I have not added anything related to you or anyone else. I have actually deleted a lot of promotional stuff. Do u have any diff proving your point? MistyGraceWhite (talk) 05:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This was in response to your allegations on me that I am working and receiving funds for my contribution to Pakistan's Pageant industry. That is what you directed towards me. Thats why I had to remind you that Wikipedia gives us the right to remain anonymous. Salut65 (talk) 05:07, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:Salut65 no, you cannot edit an article if you are getting payment from upwork/freelancer or any other means. You are required to tell us who is paying you and what you are editing will have to go through other editors first. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 05:10, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ MistyGraceWhite No I am not getting any payments. I have explained to you that I have an instagram account on pageants, and I am one of the few pageant followers of Pakistan. If I got paid, it would have been great. But they have their own PR as you can see with their links. I am a hobbyist and will be till the end. People in Pakistan are happy to read about their beauty queens. And which world are you living in, Pakistan is a very open society. There was Miss Veet Pakistan as well. , learn about that in pakistan. but they were not able to sustain like Miss Pakistan World. Seems like someone has hired you to remove everything about Miss Pakistan world on the net!!! I would suggest you should disclose that information as well. Thank you. Salut65 (talk) 06:13, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:Salut65 read the following guidelines and essays. Wikipedia:Other stuff exists, Wikipedia:Citation overkill, Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:No original research MistyGraceWhite (talk) 07:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have removed almost 7500 words out of Sonia ahmed and miss pakistan world.

you have removed all the references which were reported by new agencies

you have elected to delete articles.

Please stop vandalism Mrs. Pakistan World. it was approved as per Wikipedia authors. --Salut65 (talk) 22:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You removed 21000 bytes out of Miss Pakistan World with so many references. over 50 references were removed. why would you removed all the controversies and only keep criticism ?? --Salut65 (talk) 01:21, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/pakistan/beauty-queens-calendar-image-draws-hate-titles-1.156237

https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/pakistan/miss-university-pakistan-full-of-promise-1.266472

https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/pakistan/row-over-bikini-contestant-rages-1.255267

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/article/20090919/ARTICLE/309199951/1057

https://daily.bhaskar.com/news/TOP-miss-pakistan-photoshoot-5530054-PHO.html

https://www.hindustantimes.com/fashion-and-trends/miss-pakistan-comes-to-india/story-odWOTq6n9XznoGYAl6mOOO.html

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/veena-malik-gets-support-from-miss-pakistan-world/story-0zeONRhBUNIq40ffUT27jK.html

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/mush-mush-hota-hai/story-O4W4nTTaDOJosXceT1SSzL.html

https://www.dawn.com/news/512098/2009-the-year-that-was

All these resources were removed plus 40 more. Salut65 (talk) 01:21, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On the page of Sonia Ahmed you have removed her as the founder of the pageant industry for Pakistan. Why is that. ? There are no pageants in pakistan, and there is only one pageant that sends contestants of pakistani decent to international pageants. Why are you removing the founder of pageant industry for pakistan. Could you let me know who is the founder then, and who has successfully represented pakistan in international pageants??? you are writing from a very personal agenda of removing everything about the Miss MRs. Pakistan pageant. why are u removing credible sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salut65 (talk • contribs) 03:42, 24 April 2020 (UTC) Salut65 (talk) 05:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:Salut65 we do not use unsourced material. On the other hand dont spam links. Read both policies, you will understand the reason behind my edits. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 05:13, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

News from Times of India, DNA India, Tribune Pakistan, The NAtion, The News Pakistan , hindustan times and Dawn are not unreliable. They are not unsourced. None of the links are spam. But you have removed the complete data from Miss Pakistan World. Do you have any clue what pageants are ? Can you see this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femina_Miss_India ? This page is all about Pageants in India.

Can you see their detailed report?

You removed the Miss Earth pageant from the page of Miss Pakistan World, that was all the winners who went to Miss Earth. There are over 150 pageants done by the contestants, yet only that information of Miss Earth was added. No one is hungry to add a lot, as I dont have time to look at links for the other 100 pageants. But you are removing data that is history. How come Miss India is having this data where as Pakistan cannot have the data, even though there were enough links stating that those particular contestants went to the Miss Earth pageant.

You dont have any idea. YOu have not done any research on pageants in wikipedia. Ask me? I can give you the help. Rather than you vandalizing the pages, when you dont have the capacity to learn about pageants and how they work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Venezuela https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Brasil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femina_Miss_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_World

Look at the pages of these national pageant. Miss Pakistan World, Mrs. Pakistan World are national pageants for Pakistan. For almost 18 years, the history of these pageants are reduced by you to just half a page. It seems you targeted all the winners of the pageant, the pageant and the organizer and deleted all the sources as well as nominated all pages for deletion.

Please look at these pages and explain why the writers still have them up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sof%C3%ADa_Silva_(beauty_pageant_titleholder) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisela_Bola%C3%B1os https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susana_Duijm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consuelo_Nouel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_Margarita_Pieri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladys_Ascanio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Griselda_Vegas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Antonetti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_Amelia_Morales_Machado https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Revenga

I can give you over 1000 examples of pages on beauty queens. The winners of Miss Pakistan World have more links than any of these beauty queen pages mentioned to you. I dont see you going on a rampage to delete them. It seems no matter how much proof is given to you, you are aiming to delete history of Miss Paksitan, Mrs. Pakistan, Sonia Ahmed, Shanzay Hayat and many others. Salut65 (talk) 06:09, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:Salut65 read my reply in the section above. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 07:38, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:MistyGraceWhite I have read and re-read it thoroughly and again you have removed so many news links from New agencies like The Dawn, Hindustan Times, DNA News, Tribune News, Times of India and many other credible links, that prove that these winners were talked about in the news for all the controversies. You have even not answered to the pages of beauty queens that exist. I will add them here again for your knowledge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sof%C3%ADa_Silva_(beauty_pageant_titleholder) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisela_Bola%C3%B1os https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susana_Duijm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consuelo_Nouel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_Margarita_Pieri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladys_Ascanio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Griselda_Vegas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Antonetti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_Amelia_Morales_Machado https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Revenga

and I can send you 1000 more. However, you have not added any deletion on these pages and many others that I can send you, if you are too concerned about the data on wikipedia. As I have mentioned before, seems like you are getting paid only to target Pakistan, where as you are leaving these pages and a 1000 more in wiki untouched. Salut65 (talk) 08:38, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Salut65, Accusing someone of paid prejudice is completely out of line and not assuming good faith WP:AGF. I have personally reviewed many of the pages Misty has nominated for deletion and found that nearly all of them are appropriate. Miss Pakistan World is not particularly notable and thus not an appropriate basis for a wikipage about someone. And yes, there is news coverage around these pageants, just as there is coverage of lots of pageants. But announcements of winners or little tidbits about them is WP:ROUTINE and does not denote notability. I would review the requirements of WP:ANYBIO or reach out to WP:BEAUTY who can guide you in the future for what would be considered wikinotable pagent winners. In the meantime, this harassment and accusations need to stop. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:Sulfurboy The user MistyGraceWhite has accused me of getting paid. Please check on my talk page. I dont have any issues of her nominating the winners of the pageant. But then she needs to target winners of many other pageants as well. However, she seems to be belonging to a conservative background where she is not able to digest the pageants that take place in Muslim countries, so she has accused me of getting paid and has told me to disclose that I am a paid person. So in return I feel she is paid by the conservative fanatics for removing data. She has removed thousands of words from the Miss Pakistan World pageant as well as the organizer. And the way she has done it is where you cannot revert the changes and other writers cannot even see what the actual page looked like.

Also I can send you pageant winners who are on wikipedia, but MistyGraceWhite will not even add a deletion on their pages - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sof%C3%ADa_Silva_(beauty_pageant_titleholder) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisela_Bola%C3%B1os https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susana_Duijm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consuelo_Nouel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_Margarita_Pieri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladys_Ascanio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Griselda_Vegas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Antonetti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_Amelia_Morales_Machado https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Revenga

Have a look. MistyGraceWhite is not bothering with any other pageants but Pakistan. With the looks of it, I can tell you one thing that the users main agenda is to bring down the pageant and make it very small, however, if you want to google about Miss Pakistan or Miss Pakistan World, you will see history of 18 years and links that have shown the controversial level of the pageant. The writers who are commenting including yourself dont know Pakistan or Miss Pakistan World and hence for people to just pass a comment is not enough. For you to say that she has done right and that the pageant is not famous enough then you must google it and see the facts for yourself. She has changed the page of Miss Pakistan World and has removed all and almost 50 references out of spite due to the user's conservative background. What the user has done is wrong and must revert back the page of Miss Pakistan World and show the writers who actual care to comment after seeing the page.

And look at the pageant winners links I have added in this talk. click them and check. By the user deleting 50 links with proper references has just proven that the user is upset after getting out of her shell and realizing that this was happening. A lot of fanatical background people dont really focus on entertainment. and you can tell by the user's posts and creation of pages. Anyways, there are other users I am contacting to help out in the article and 18 years of history cannot be wiped out especially when it is covered by Pakistan itself. It is only a matter of time, the user can have her fun for now. Salut65 (talk) 23:45, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I dont even know why you nominated all of this pages that has been already reviewed and edited by so many wikipedians admins and users. And all of the articles was using the legitimate informations and WIKIPEDIA:RS reliable sources and indeed till this day there's a lot of Wikipedian that also contriutes on editing the pages. I think this pages below should not be tagged or considered for deletion in accordance. Its better using another tag like this >>> Needs additional citations for verification, Please help by adding reliable sources.

This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libelous. Find sources: "MistyGraceWhite" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR (April 2020) (Learn how and when to remove this message)

• Putu Ayu Saraswati has been reviewed by User:Darwinek
• Ayu Diandra Sari Tjakra has been reviewed by User:Amkgp
• Wilda Octaviana Situngkir has been reviewed by User:Amkgp
• Vania Fitryanti Putri Herlambang has been reviewed by User:Amkgp
• Zukhriatul Hafizah
• Intan Venlö Aletrino

I already changes all of the tags with BLP sources tag I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 22:59, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@User:I Nyoman Gede Anila my talkpage is not the proper venue for a deletion discussion. I did not edit the articles, I merely nominated them for deletion. If you have solid rationale for them to exist, use the AFD debate page. What you call legitimate information is mostly unconnected citations etc. Anyhow, you are welcome to use the AFd pages. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 15:07, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there. This is an invitation to join the 50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week. £250 (c. $310) up for grabs in May, June and July with £20 worth of prizes to give away every week for most articles destubbed. Each week there is a different region of focus, though half the prize will still be rewarded for articles on any subject. Sign up if you want to contribute at least one of the weeks or support the idea! † Encyclopædius 19:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello MistyGraceWhite, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Johnny Oghuma, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: being a member of his country's national parliament indicates significance; consider redirecting to Nigerian National Assembly delegation from Edo if notability is the concern. If you are interested in learning more about how speedy deletion works, I have compiled a list of helpful pages at User:SoWhy/SDA. You can of course also contact me if you have questions. Thank you. SoWhy 12:43, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@User:SoWhy I tried searching for him on google but could not find anything, so I thought it might be a fake. here and here which version of his name did you use to search? I will try to at least make it start class if I get the correct name. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 12:51, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The lead seems to contain a typo. Try searching for "Johnson Oghuma" (GNews) and you will find sufficient mentions. Not sure if it's enough to sustain an article but sufficient to pass A7. Regards SoWhy 13:19, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello MistyGraceWhite. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Heider Al Abaidi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Appears to meet WP:NFooty, take to AfD if required. Thank you. GedUK  12:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You probably know this, but wanted to mention: in addition to G11-tagging the spam page, users with a username of the company/organization being promoted should be reported to WP:AIV as spam username and promotional edits. This user is a great example of that. (See Template:Uw-spamublock). Happy tagging, Spencer^T•C 02:18, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello MistyGraceWhite. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Padmashri Dr. Vitthalrao Vikhe Patil Institute of Technology & Engineering (Polytechnic), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: You've removed the copyright issues, so it doesn't meet G12. I can't find the other versions you've said were deleted before, do you have links please? . Thank you. GedUK  16:46, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Draft:Legende WoW-a. I do not think that Draft:Legende WoW-a fits any of the speedy deletion criteria  because This page is not Patent Nonsense it is written in Bosnian, and WP:CSD#G1 specifically excludes pages in languages other than English. If you wish, you may try using the simple proposed deletion (PROD) process, or the full articles for deletion (AfD) process, instead. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:28, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am currently participating in WikiGap Online Contest for Wikimedia Nigeria, under African Women in Media category and you have deleted my work on hours! Kindly avail me the content for further consuderation. Thank you.Loop up (talk) 14:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]