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Where are the dates 2353 - 2234 BC sourced from? Corruption2000 12:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And now it reads 2358 - 2258 BC. Equally unsourced. __meco (talk) 00:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

according to "Confucius analects: with selections from traditional commentaries" by Edward Gilman Slingerland (2003, ISBN: 0872206351, 9780872206359), the traditional chronology is 2357-2257. Also take into consideration that this is a single, seemingly legendary figure with no Archeological evidences or evident cosmological event during their time which can give any clue on them. So no accurate chronology or any chronology can be done seriously, it's all speculations, or fuzzy calculations according to classic resources which were created hundred of years after the actual time discussed.

--Duke.of.spacingham (talk) 21:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard it somewhere that Yao was older than two hundred years. There doesn't seem to be much about Chinese history on the internet and books are difficult to translate. Thanks Aeryck89 08:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

according to shang shu (book of history):

帝曰：“咨！四岳。朕在位七十載，汝能庸命，巽朕位？”(end of canon of Yao)... 二十有八載，帝乃殂落。 (within the caon of Shun)

translated by legge as "The Di said, 'Ho! (President of) the Four Mountains, I have been on the throne seventy years. You can carry out my commands - I will resign my place to you."..."After twenty-eight years the Di deceased".

according to shi ji (lists of the historion) (http://chinese.dsturgeon.net/text.pl?node=4475&if=en#n4492):

堯立七十年得舜，二十年而老，令舜攝行天子之政，薦之於天。堯辟位凡二十八年而崩。

My own not very exact translation: "yao stood for 70 years when he got shun, and did not die for 20 years, making shun absorb the way of the son of heaven, and settling him in the heaven stand. all in all, yao ruled all in all 28 years then died."

So we can see here 98=~100 years.

Chinese wikipedia says 100 years on the throne, which seems to fit the history books, and 118 years of age, which is not unreasonable (especially considering Pharaoh Pepi II who reigned c. 2278 BC – c. 2184 BC. that's 94 years. And chronologically is around the end of Yao's rule :) )

The 200 years is probably some sort of daoist exaggeration being part of making Yao a saint.

--Duke.of.spacingham (talk) 21:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC) I'm reading the dates here and it's looking his "reign" begin a few years before he was born. If the historic dates are sketchy and conflicting with multiple sources, shouldn't it be noted that this is why the dates don't match up, or alternatively maybe either each source dates listed, or one source should be preferred, hopefully one that doesn't cause such blatant discontinuity as causing the man to be ruling before his birth.24.1.202.55 (talk) 16:12, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note to self: have to write something about this: http://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/%E6%93%8A%E5%A3%A4%E6%AD%8C – Kaihsu (talk) 11:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]