I will remove discussions on here that I feel are done with when I feel like it. I will mark such changes with the following summary:'''archiving''' (see history if you want to put stuff back) If you object, or feel that I've removed stuff I shouldn't, feel free to re-add it from the history. If you then comment on it mentioning that I've removed it, and asking me not to, I won't remove it again. If that kind of stuff gets beyond 32k, I'll move it to archive page(s), each of about 32k in size, and put links to them here. JesseW 09:43, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You've added a link to the inexistent article about your upcoming website. You shouldn't have done that, because:

1. Do not add references unless something is done.
2. Your site should only be included as an article if it was REALLY important and relevant.
3. You shouldn't make it an external link either, for the above reasons.
4. Wikipedia is NOT a web guide. Don't promote your websites here

Kieff, thanks for being so vigilant, however you are in error about some things:

• The Index is not my website, nor is it created by me.
• It is a very useful tool for fans of HHGttG, and quite relevant to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy page.
• I have recieved permission from the author for it to be under GFDL, thereby ready for the Wikipedia.
• Having the Index on Wikipedia will allow it to be updated, it will allow editors to add new entries, and it will allow editors with different editions of the book to add information about their edition to the index.

That is why I felt that it would be both encyclopedic, and generally useful.

Regarding creating a reference before creating the page, I had understood that I should create the reference first, rather than creating an orphaned page, and then linking it to related pages. If I misunderstood, I am sorry.

Finally, Kieff, please sign your comments on talk pages, especially if you are telling someone off.

Sorry about the signature, guess I forgot. About the page, if you really think it's a REALLY relevant link, you can add it, but it'll be verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did). But if it's like that, we should probably include MJ Simpson's Planet Magrathea site on the external links. — Kieff | Talk 05:59, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

Since I'm waiting for a final conformation regarding GFDL status for the Index, I added it as an External Link in the meantime. I also added Planet Magrathea, as you suggested. ;-) What did you mean "verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did)"? I'm sure other editors will look at the changes and some may fall into the same misunderstandings as you did, but, AFAIK there is no "verification", just many eyes. Thanks again for your vigilance. JesseW 06:17, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

When webpages are linked to in Wikipedia, people usually check how relevant it is (using Google or Alexa ranks and such), and see if the addition of it in Wikipedia is or is not needed~, or if it is some sort of self promotion and etc. — Kieff | Talk 06:43, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

I see. Thanks! I didn't know about that before. JesseW 06:47, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your nice note. That was thoughtful. :) Maurreen 04:57, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi, Jesse. I gave you a WikiMedal for Janitorial Services. Maurreen 03:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome! You deserve it. Maurreen 05:09, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. Cleaning neglected areas of the Wikipedia (like this one) produces a satisfaction not unlike that of cleaning a very dirty room. You can see a big difference after you've finished, and thus feel you've accomplished something. I guess that's why I'm doing it. 8) -- Beland 01:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"You're welcome!" he says, in an embarassed but flattered tone of voice. :) Garrett^Talk 10:29, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article California Certified Organic Farmers, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently-created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thank you for your kind words regarding this. Sorry to be so tardy in replying, I have been on holiday. Steve block talk 21:56, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Hi JesseW.... Just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't already, that the latest version of your monobook.js (dated 20:11, 1 August 2005) doesn't seem to work in Opera — that is, unless I'm doing something wrong, which won't be the first time :) . I'm using the latest version, Opera 8.02 for Windows, en-US. Everything works fine in Firefox & IE, though.

I think the problem's somewhere in doNextItem(). I was able to get it to work if I commented it out & any references to it. I don't know enough javascript to nail it down any further, though (which is why I'm trying to use your monobook.js instead of writing my own :) ). Here's the exact error message that's showing up on my javascript console:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gsp/monobook.js&action=submit
Event thread: BeforeScript
Syntax error while loading: line 5 of inline script at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gsp/monobook.js&action=submit : 
ocation=oldone+"&basepage="+escape(baseul)}; if (/basepage=/
---------------------------------------------------^

It stops there, and nothing else from monoscript.js works. I made sure all my javascript settings were on in Opera, but the error keeps showing up. I have heard, though, that Opera is more strict at parsing javascript code than other browsers :( .

If you happen to have any spare time to fix it, that'd be great. And if you need any more details, let me know. Thanks! -- Gsp 09:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, JesseW. Sorry, I don't use IRC. I did try your suggestion, but I got the same error. :( -- Gsp 21:06, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

...Thank you! A Reedie! I don't think I've ever met one on Wikipedia before now. And what's this "ex" stuff? Not anything serious is it? Perhaps we'll meet this year :) Nice to be noticed (as long as I wasn't doing something stupid), so it was kind of you to leave a note. I guess I want people to get this user-page-off-limits taboo out of their systems, I mean it's a wiki, right? So what was I gonna... hey! how did you just leave me a message when I was in the middle of writing you? Anyway... funnily enough Image:San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg was my computer wallpaper, reminds me of home. Well, thanks, and oh no, Daily Show's on already. (Oh yeah, pg. 160 and counting of the Iliad- er, little behind :) Dmcdevit·t 06:04, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. Oh, don't worry about me having a problem with taking cr*p, I've just come back from a loooooooooooooong Wikivacation, so I'm pretty upbeat right now.  :) Zoe 20:13, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

I'm surprised by its small size and the general high quality. I have used it to identify three articles for deletion though. lots of issues | leave me a message 21:01, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings! You always pop up on my watchlist doing helpful admin-type things, but as I recall you're not an admin. Would you be interested? (If so, do you have any terrible dirty laundry a potential nominator ought to know about? I didn't find any myself. :-)) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:50, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be honnored. I've been irritated by not being able to fix the backlog on WP:CP. As for dirty laundry, I don't think so. My basic principle on the wiki is pretty strong eventualism - i.e. I avoide controversial topics 98% of the time. Thanks very much for thinking of me. JesseW 02:00, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good; I'll go write up a nomination, then. :-) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Posted. Cheers! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:19, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stated I'm aware, and answered the questions. Thanks again! JesseW 04:10, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I would bring this here, saves people reading a whole essay. I answer your question by saying "the smarter the person, the more questions they ask". Its always been a good guage as far as I can tell. Second, I appreciate when people take the trouble to find out what the correct answer is. There are a few admins who are extremely liberal with their right to act somewhat arbitrarily. Lastly, I am extremely satisfied with your responses, and I plan to include this part, at least, to the dialogue we have engaged in over at the RfA page. I think you'll do a good job as an admin. And for the record, I have no "political" agenda to push concerning inclusionism, deletionism, whatever. I just want to see WP become a better source of information. More complete, but without becoming cluttered with nonsense. As I have been saying on these RfA pages recently, an administrators first duty is to the Wikipedia, and secondarily, to the community itself. Good luck with your bid. I plan to support your nomination. Thanks for prodding me a bit too, it shows your not afraid to confront a situation with intelligence and resolution. Hamster Sandwich 00:57, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Congratulating you on your successful promotion. Good luck with the mop and bucket. See you 'round the wiki! Hamster Sandwich 18:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And if you're going to write it in Python (so as to take advantage of the pywikipediabot framework for the WP side of things) I'll be interested in trying to help out. Pcb21| Pete 23:14, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Great. I haven't had a chance to lookinto pywikipediabot; I'll look at that. I won't be able to work on it until tomorrow at the earliest, though. JesseW 23:18, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your adminship. If you need and help or advice, don't hesitate to ask me, or any of the other Admins and Bureaucrates. Uncle Ed 17:52, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! Andre (talk) 19:09, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

I forgot to congratulate you! What's it been, two days? Oops. Nice sig. It's just got that ring to it, you know? Incidentally... hey, I just met Zora who went to Reed years ago, and we a great discussion. You might appreciate her insight as well! Oh, and I don't think you ever told me why you left (if it's not too personal), but is there any chance of your returning? I think it be fun to see a Wikipedian in real life... Also, I'm glad you've taken up CP help. I have to admit I've always shied away from it because it takes so friggin' long for my computer to load it (just like the WP:TL is unmanageable). Hasn't nyone ever brought up the idea of daily subpages, like WP:CFD? Am I rambling? Dmcdevit·t 22:20, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Congrats. Just saw the news in the Signpost. BlankVerse ∅ 17:25, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please try to break the notification bot. Your help is most appreciated. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:04, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you say so... /me gives a big Evil grin. JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:49, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

User:Ingoolemo/Threads/05/9/14a

You wrote (on my talk page): You tagged Mike Kinkella as nn-bio, CSD A7. I do no think it fits that criterion. The article made multiple claims of notability, such as MVP, records, etc. There were for Arena Football, which is a minor sport, but I think it needs to go through AfD, maybe, but not speedy. Just wanted to let you know. JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:09, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

From the article I was under the impresion that arena football was a strictly high-school level sport. i don't think that HS sport records are generally claims of notability. On looking furher, this seems not to be the case. I do think the person is non-notable but let this go through AfD. Note also that this seems to be a recreation after a prior deletion, but let that go too, as I think that was also an nn-bio speedy. I trust you have placed this on AfD already. DES ^(talk) 20:19, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure weather or not he is non-notable, so I don't think I would be able to make much of AfD case. Would you list the page? JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:26, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I did. For future reference if you remove an nn-bio tag because you think a claim of notability is present, please list the page on AfD. You can say something like "User:misguidedEditor tagged this for speedy deltion. i think the person is noteable (or i'm unsure if the person is notable) so I remved the tag and i am listing it here instead. Keep." (or vote abstain or delete as you think the case warrents). Thank you. DES ^(talk) 20:40, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly; I will do that in the future. Thanks for letting me know. JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:45, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

...for not dropping the ball. paul klenk 20:37, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

...what a crazy redirect you came up with just then. Have a Working Man's Barnstar as it appears you do this quite often:

Take care, Molotov (talk) 20:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, thank you. Just trying to prevent further deletions of that title. I do do lots of maintance and cleanup work. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:13, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar :) Looks like the backlog at WP:CP is really starting to go down --Duk 21:38, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Jesse, and thanks for the barnstar -- it is very much appreciated. I'm sorry that I don't have time just at the moment to give much attention to Wikipedia in general and WP:CP in particular. Having a job sucks. :) --Ngb ^?!? 22:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dear JesseW: I was recently going through the logs and noticed that you resurrected a number of nonsense articles from the dead (including Rowan Burns, Old Apps, Anthony G. Collins, Keith gibson etc.) and I thought I would ask you why you did so. Although a couple should have gone through AfD the majority appear, at least to me, to match the speedy criteria. Would you be so kind ask to explain why these articles should be kept? Thank you :-) Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull 18:14, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to explain. I am in the process of reviewing the speedy deletions of User:Jondel, as I noticed that he used the non-CSD reason "non notable". This is not a speedy criterion. E also speedied many without any specific reason at all. I will be speeding some of the ones, and listing the others on AfD. I've done about 14 already (see today's AfD log), and some look like they will be kept, while other's have already been speedied. I think it is important to make sure the CSDs are followed. If you have any further questions, please let me know. JesseW, the juggling janitor 19:33, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Some of the articles that were restored were IMO obviously useless. I see no reason to clutter Afd with them. On the other hand, some of them were things that IMO should definitely have gone through Afd. Friday (talk) 21:36, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I know. It was hard to tell with some of them, as there was no criteria used. Sorry for the bother; which ones did you specifically think of? JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:01, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

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JW-Thanks for the help. I am not sure why I didn't understand it. Maybe I just misread the directions, but I have it now. Thanks again! Davidpdx 9/17/05 7:00 (UTC) Ps-I'm from Portland...I used to live not far from Reed College. I miss that place SO much!

Hey J³,
As someone who has not voted voiced an opinion, could you close this discussion? (I.e. Remove the section from the page.) Its time is up, the article is (for now) deleted, and consensus is KD. Thanks,
brenneman^(t)(c) 00:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, glad to provide a little amusement since it's often pretty hard to come by in AFD. I was actually taken aback by Moncrief's challenge. It never occurred to me that there might be only one Lakewood Blvd. and I had forgotten about the one in my home town. Quale 01:33, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I tried your view diff since your last change bookmarklet listed at WP:Tools, but I couldn't get it to work. Right now it's just showing me the diff of the last change made to the page. I seem to remember reading somewhere that in the conversion to 1.5 that they slightly changed the formatting of the history page, and I'm thinking that might have something to do with it. It could be that it's working for you and I've just been using it wrong. Let me know. Thanks! -- Norvy (talk) 05:48, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message.

First of all, I am very sorry about the loss of the image you made. That is a shame, and I hope and intend to try to get it back from a mirror or other source. However, I am still confused by the specifics of the case. What map at History of Thailand? Looking (partially) through the history, I can't see any map.

That's because it has been deleted.

Besides Image:Thailand.gif, I did find Image:Ac.watarun.jpg, which was uploaded by Adam Carr (with no tags in the edit summary or the image description page) on 12:45, 10 September 2004, but that was captioned as "Siamese warrior figures at the 18th century Wat Arun (Temple of Dawn) in Bangkok, erected by King Taksin the Great in 1769", which doesn't sound like a map.

No, that was a photo, which has also been deleted, even though I took it myself

I looked through the various sub articles of History of Thailand, thinking it might be there, but, I found no map in the current versions. (Maybe it has been removed)

Very observant

It would be very helpful if you could provide us with a file name, or a revision where it was present.

To make sure that no others of your uploaded images get deleted, I would suggest you review the log of your uploads. Just glancing over it, I notice Image:Skybush.jpg, Image:Foxsmall.jpg, Image:Portcullis black.gif, and Image:Rectitude.jpg(which is a really nice image) all have no source or license info.

Those images were not uploaded with the intention of putting them at articles. Skybush is at my Talk page, portcullis was for a project which I abandoned, rectitude was sent to someone else. I don't know what foxsmall is.

Thanks so much for all your work in Wikipedia. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:24, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Adam 08:37, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jesse, thanks for your efforts over this. The copy of the map you located is rather poor after being reproduced in some way, so I think it will have to be abandoned. I don't now recall the provenance of the Petrov photo, so it will probably be deleted when the photopolice get to it. I'm, not actually greatly worried about old and unsourced photos, I accept that they need to be deleted. I was annoyed however at the deletion of an original graphic without consultation. Adam 09:34, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Image:Grahamberry.jpg - scanned from a 1904 newspaper
• Image:Hopetoun.jpg - no idea, off the web somewhere
• Image:Teper2.jpg - scanned from a photo in possession of Ios Teper, taken in Germany in 1945 by one his friends, probably long dead
• Image:Punishthem.gif - from the MDC website i think
• Image:PICT0510.JPG - taken by me, but it's not at an article, I uploaded it so I could ask what the ruins were called
• Image:Kadirgamar.jpg - no idea
• Image:Ac.delphi1.jpg - taken by me but never added to the Delphi article, which i was going to rewrite but never got round to it.

"ac" was uploaded by me, not necessarily taken by me.

Adam 10:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have no defence for any of those except these:

• Image:Ac.casey.jpg
• Image:Ac.cowen.jpg
• Image:Ac.kerr.jpg
• Image:Ac.snedden.jpg

All of these were scanned from the Australian Parliamentary Handbook, for which I have written permission:

This photograph is held under Crown copyright by the Commonwealth of Australia. The responsible Commonwealth agency, AUSPIC, gave written permission on 2 August 2005 for this photograph to be used at Wikipedia (see following). The use of this image by is contended by Australian Wikipedians to be fair dealing in Australia and fair use in the United States. (Letter from AUSPIC to User:Adam Carr: "Dear Dr Carr, Approval is granted to reproduce images nominated below [photographs of Members, Senators and Governors-General appearing in current and past editions of the Parliamentary Handbook] on the Wikipedia website. Subsequent use by a third pary will incur reproduction fees if that use is of a commercial nature. Copyright remains with AUSPIC. Peter West, Director, AUSPIC auspic@aph.gov.au)"

But as you will have observed, this has not been accepted.

Adam 11:37, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed my {{fairusedisputed}} tag from the above four, there seems to be a good claim to fair use now that we know they're from an official book. JYolkowski // talk 20:59, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya - you've changed the Johnny Woo page into a redirect for the Judge Dredd Megazine and called it a "merge". However, none of the material has been merged into the other article. Also, Johnny Woo, as a separate character to Judge Dredd, is notable enough for a separate article (for all that the one that was there was too stubby - I kept meaning to deal with it). All in all, this looks like a deletion by any other name. Am i missing something? Cheers, Vizjim 12:35, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the nice comments. I've reverted the article. Keep up the good work! Vizjim 19:51, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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No, I'm not happy at all with his proposed changes. I was just about to post a message on the Talk: page (I'm still busy doing today's work on WP:RfD, that was next on my list), basically suggesting the exact same thing you propose - that he propose changes to the existing page (which, I note, is hardly anything I wrote - in the 100 edits prior to that version, only two are by me, and one is a dab fix).

You need to understand that he is trying to change the page around to follow his novel personal historical interpretation, based in large part on personal research. The emphasis he wants to give to things is absolutely out of tune with the standard works on the subject, e.g. the standard academic history of the Internet, Inventing the Internet, by Janet Abbate (MIT Press). Noel (talk) 00:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PS: He also seems to have an unlimited amount of time to spend on this project to reform this page into the form he wants. I was spending many hours a day dealing with him for a couple of days, before I had to rejoin my normal life. I spend an hour or two a day on this, but I simply cannot put in 12 hours a day, every day, keeping up with his obsession about this page. Noel (talk) 00:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how to respond to Noel's comments. I've done my best to present well researched information, and had truely thought we had got over this. Was just about to comment that I was having second thoughts over a temporary rewrite as I couldn't see a way to work in the information on the other networks without changes to the structure. Since Noel does not want expanded mention of these networks at all, I see no way to progress.

I'm going to give up. I've had my fill of personal attacks and petty bickering, Noel can have the article to write what ever he wants. --John R. Barberio ^{talk, contribs 01:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC)} [reply]

A lot of those pics are more than 50 yrs old. Mainly because the writers themselves have been dead for longer than that. AFAIK, that makes them copyright-free? But I could be misinformed. --Peripatetic 10:55, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm leaving you this message because you posted a reply on the Copyright Violation page. Please let me know if there is a different procedure to follow.

I posted a request for removal of a copyrighted image nearly 5 days ago, and it has not been responded to nor any action taken. I see that responses to other requests are generally posted within a day or so.

Would you please take a look at my request to remove the image "Wintu Women Circa 1900" [1] and let me know if there is some other method I should be following to achieve the removal of this copyrighted image.

The text of the request is below:

"Copyright infringement

"I have been contacted and informed that an image as to which I represent the copyright holders is posted in Wikipedia Commons without permission. Please remove the following image immediately: [Wintu_Women_circa_1900.jpg].

"The source of the image is listed as the website of the College of the Siskiyous, where the image appears with permission; the image on that website clearly contains the copyright statement: © 2001 Masson-Gomez Family.

"I have read the statement of the person who originally posted the image, and it appears that he was under the mistaken impression that the copyright had expired - that impression is incorrect. While the image was created some time ago, it remained privately held by the family, and was not published or registered for copyright until recently. Under the Copyright Act, this image is clearly currently copyright protected.

"Under 17 U.S.C. sec. 303, as a work created before 1978 but not theretofore in the public domain, which was then first published in 2001, the copyright remains active until December 31, 2047. There is a very useful chart published on the Cornell University website that sets out these complex rules in a simple way Copyright Protection Chart.

"If you have any questions please contact the administrator of the College of the Siskiyous website directly, and he will confirm the copyright status of the image.

"Again, please remove this protected image immediately.

"CopyrightProtection 22:56, 20 September 2005 (UTC)"

CopyrightProtection 20:30, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I had wondered if there were such a solution, having got rid of my yellow "you have a message" message before but didn't know to go and create the solution. Cheers, and it works just fine, SqueakBox 23:22, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is just a query: I'm puzzled why you removed the SD tag from Sipi. It's a dicdef for a word that, as I said in the SD tag, does not exist. Doesn't that make clear that it's nonsense, a clear hoax? What else could it be? It's not a big deal, since it won't survive AfD anyway, but I was curious what your rationale was. You can reply on the article's AfD page if you'd like, since mine wasn't the only vote for speedy. Thanks. Chick Bowen 23:20, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

When you delete an image, could you please first remove all references to it from the articles? Thank you. Lupo 10:02, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Jesse, from one janitor to another: you may have noticed that I help clearing the {{nosource}} category, too, yet I take the trouble not to leave broken links behind. Not removing dead links to deleted images is just sloppy work. Lupo 09:00, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes, I concur with Lupo on this point. If you do not want to cleanup the links, then please do not delete the images. RedWolf 00:30, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no problem cleaning up the links, I just, as per the speedy criteria, and the magnitude of the job, consider it better to clean up the links after the categories have been cleaned out, rather than slowing down that job by doing the link cleanup at the same time. For my full response see User_talk:Lupo#Re:_deleting_images JesseW, the juggling janitor 01:02, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm 99% sure I deleted the image because it was a duplicate of Image:Strath Univ.jpg --Nv8200p (talk) 20:42, 26 September 2005 (UTC) Cool. I'm sure that was it. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:47, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I tagged it because I was sure it had a big bolded "N" by its side. I guess I'm too sleepy to keep on RC patrolling tonight, and I'll call it a day. Again, I'm sorry. *Hugs*, Shauri 21:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

NP. I know how it is to be too tired to know to stop Wikipediaing... JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:55, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Could you tell me how you count the number of images left to speedy? I've noticed that you've updated the count the last few times... --HappyCamper 10:37, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No deletion bot. I'm just going wild with a tabbed browser and copy-pasting the edit summaries. What kind of tool are you using there? And is it something I could use? :) Coffee 09:48, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Greetings,

Ive properly re-tagged most of the pictures. The few that I have not, I have re-uploaded replacements for them, and therefore do not need them anymore. They can be deleted. Thanx.--Zereshk 17:54, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. "Please check your images", you informed me, "I noticed that you have some images in the category Category:Images with unknown source. Due to the vast number of images in this category (12000+), and the fact that, lacking a source, they present considerable copyright uncertanty, Jimbo has stated, and added to the Criteria for Speedy Deletion, "Images in category "Images with unknown source" or "Images with unknown copyright status" which have been in the category for more than 7 days, regardless of when uploaded." This means the images can, and will, be deleted with no notice. To see a list of all the images you've uploaded (at least, under this username), review the upload log. You might also find User:Pearle/by-author-Category:Images_with_unknown_source.txt to be useful (search for your username). If you have any questions, please let me know."

Thanks for your message. Well, the upload log mentioned above only goes back as far as the end of 2004. At User:Pearle/by-author-Category:Images_with_unknown_source.txt my user name cannot be found. All I can say is that back in 2002 or early 2003, when image tags on Wikipedia were still a thing of the future, I did upload a few images which might, in retrospective, be considered as having an "unknown source". I've stated this over and over again on all sorts of talk pages, and whenever someone pointed me to a concrete image without a tag I could react in an appropriate manner.

Your message above, however, does not help, for the reasons given. In many cases it would be easy—in fact very easy—to just add the {{screenshot}} tag because that's what many of them are, and I'd be sad to see them deleted. However, as I said above, there is no way I could track them down or retrieve them.

All the best, <KF> 18:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed on Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts that you are good with JS. I was hoping that you might help me. I copied the add tab, Ll link, purge tab, and last diff tab scripts and placed them in my monobook. The purge function works but the last diff function will only take me to the the last diff of Defined regardless of the page I am currently on. Have I done something wrong? I have removed the last diff tab for the time being. I would appreciate your input. Thanks. Psy guy ^(talk) 17:26, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at your copy of the lastDiff function, and it's fine. I've tested my copy, and it's fine. I am puzzled. What browser, OS, etc, are you using? I doubt I can fix it, but it's worth trying... Sorry it didn't work. JesseW, the juggling janitor 17:35, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Don't hold it against me, but I use IE though that may change soon. I will try to reinsert it again later. Thanks for your help and thanks for responding so quickly. Psy guy ^(talk) 18:53, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou for protecting this page from recreation, I think I tried my best to direct User:Engl149 regarding what wikipedia is not and pointed them towards the list of free wikis. I feel slightly bad by impeding the learning process but then the user continually recreated the page. Anyway, thanks! Cursive 22:40, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

case you were wondering- user:patrick Lucas has not been a real user since I'v had an eye on him. he appeared to edit a few articles, nominate some stuff for deletion then go on vacay or some shit cuz he's been gone. Ish ^{(fake science alert)} 04:53, 29 September 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Er. "real user"? I'm not sure what you mean by this - the account was a Wikipedia:Sockpuppet of some other user, or what? In any case, while I appreciate the information, I am somewhat confused as to what your relationship is to it. Why are you watching the talk page of a inactive user? Not that there's anything wrong with it, just that it seems odd. But, thanks anyway. JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

right on. sorry. I'm bitter. he nominated something that was meaningful to me for deletion. there ya go. I found this suspicious cuz 1.) he never seemed to give a solid reason why he nominated it, tho plenty of other people made a reasonable case for deletion. and 2.) he hasn't done shit on wikipedia since. I recently came back to his talk page to see if he would defend his action. ya know, usually people make a case for their deletion nomination, if someone objects. usually, ya know, this proces entails a community working together to decide what's deleted and what's not. Rational people are often seen working together civilly, right? I have yet to hear back from him. this is why the deletion process is f-ing gay.

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