User talk:Tinkleheimer: Difference between revisions

Please note I prefer an IM way of talking on talk pages, as in responses are made to the other's talk page (in other words, I respond to yours). I have close to 12 billion pages on my watchlist, and finding your talk page in the sea of information might be a little tough. Please bear with me.

• Archive 1 (12/16/06-12/16/07)
• Archive 2 (12/16/07-06/01/08)

So it's official then, Jimbo Wales belongs on this list. I'll let you do the honors. :) davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 15:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: your reply: 8 legs? I heard they were noodley appendages, but what do I know? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 21:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anytime. Don't forget to check back to the task force. It is getting awfully inactive...I have named a new co-leader. Check the talk page for that. The whole page has been completely revamped.--Smashbrosboy 23:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

True, but that one is more surprised than smiling. I'd rather just tell it as it is.

"Guess what, your dog died! " --Koji†Dude ^(C) 02:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So that's why they call you "tinkleheimer"...--Koji†Dude ^(C) 03:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes. I forgot about the "no pee-pee jokes" part of WP:USERNAME. Your welcome, by the way. :-D --Koji†Dude ^(C) 03:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again,

Thank you for the helpful links. I must still be missing something because I cannot find anything that describes how to create a lead layout. My attempts always include the title and lead layoout sections in the outline. Most of the Wiki advice seems to be centered on how to write lead layout, not on how to mechanically create one.

Thanks again for your time and help

Koures (talk) 03:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC) ________________________ Koures reply to: No problem on the help. Are you just looking for how a lead paragraph should look in an article? Lemme know and I will try to help you. Article style is not my thing, but I will do my best to help or point you in the right direction. :)<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 03:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Sorry for the delay. I think I solved my problem concerning article titles. Thanks for your help _________________________

Hi Tinkleheimer - why did you revert my America's most smartest model post? Was it too confrontational? If I re-wrote it in a more neutral style would it be ok? Cheers 82.4.51.61 (talk) 19:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tinkleheimer. You have new messages at RyRy5's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--RyRy5 (talk) 07:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks fer letting me know :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 07:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Consider it disregarded :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 08:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I feel a little stupid and trigger happy. Will be sure to do more research next time. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 08:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, its okay :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 08:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for dropping by my Talk Page. That expression comes from Mozambique (so do I, for that matter), and it was used as a rallying cry to empower people to work together for a common goal. Ecoleetage (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try chanting it, fist raised. Pronounced: "Ah loo-tah con-teh-new-ah!" Ecoleetage (talk) 19:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, you actually inspired me: A luta continua. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 19:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making my day!

Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing!
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A luta continua! Ecoleetage (talk) 19:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, something did come out of it all... the section on WP:USER saying it's discouraged. And it doesn't hurt the project, but then again neither do games in userspace, or cabals and the like. Anyway, I'll not delete, salt, and block [you], because wikipedia isn't communism (yet! :D). You're welcome x2. And sorry for the poorly thought-out reply... I'm kind of busy. · AndonicO ^Engage. 21:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise; cheers. · AndonicO ^Engage. 22:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you changed your mind. Sorry about your RFA, by the way. :( I hope it goes better next time (and please don't take the oppose personally). · AndonicO ^Engage. 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mothers generally have a hard time with "constructive criticism." ;) · AndonicO ^Engage. 19:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I see that you responded to my comment on here and I'm curious about it. Is the individual that 'left' and 'came back' the same person? Sorry, I'm new to this but it feels like people are playing 'characters' and not just editing an encyclopedia. Bigjake (talk) 03:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there... Just wanted to thank you for participating in my recent RFA... I admit, I am a little curious, what even was it that gave you a good impression? I gather you are like me, somewhat of a talk page stalker (feel free to help me expand this humour page, I'll probably work on it more as soon as I get all this thank-spam out). anyhow, feel free to also check out my in-depth RFA analysis and see the templated thank spam I let for you below. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 13:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

templated rfa thank-spam

Thank you for your support

I would like to thank the community for placing their trust in me during my recent request for adminship, which passed 72 13 2 . Rest assured, I have read each comment thoroughly and will be addressing the various concerns raised as I step cautiously into my new role as janitor. In particular, I would like to thank Balloonman for putting so much time into reviewing my contributions and writing such a thoughtful nomination statement after knowing me for only a brief period of time (and for convincing me that I was ready to take up the mop now, rather than go through admin coaching).

To my fellow admins - please let me know right away if I ever take any mis-steps with my new tools. Should I make a mistake, and you reverse the action, I will not consider it to be wheel-warring (but please tell me so I can understand what I did wrong).

To everyone - please feel free to slap me around a bit if I ever lose sight of the core philosophy of Wikipedia as I understand it - the advancement of knowledge through the processes of mutual understanding and respect. As always, feel free to drop by my talk page if I can be of any assistance. =)

Sincerely,

~xenocidic, 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem, man. I got your back. Useight (talk) 06:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, regarding your late article Items in Super Mario Bros. -- why don't you get a friendly admin to resurrect the deleted article and have it sent to you? I've had that done with three articles that are now back on Wikipedia to stay. One of them actually wound up winning a DYK notice, too! If you want help in getting the article into Wiki-worthy shape, I'll be glad to assist. A luta continua! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to start from scratch. It is still there, just out of sight and out of reach. Get an admin like DGG or Xenocidic to forward the article to you or save it on your User Talk page; several admins are happy to dig up deleted articles and send them to their original writers. This way, it will be preserved and you can update and wikify it at your leisure. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good deal. Never let a worthy article die without a fight. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 18:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. I was happy to support. Some free advice-- continue to rotate through article building and the admin related areas. Look at the policies once in a while to make sure of your understanding of them. Be reluctant to block/report to AIV until the user is still going after a full complement of recent warnings. Be reluctant to delete/tag for CSD unless there is clearly no hope of salvage. Keep in mind alternatives-- improvement, sourcing, redirection, AFD, prod. Many first time article creators create what at first looks like CSD material, but a search for sources sometimes turns up enough info to make the article worth keeping. As you continue to edit, your understanding will become clearer to the community, and eventually the community will be willing to support. Hope that helps. Dlohcierekim 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Commenting on inadequately warned AIV reports is what persuaded me to support. I should have stated that in my support rationale. Dlohcierekim 18:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't mind my horning in -- I was very glad to support your RfA and I will be supporting your next go-round. Keep at it -- a luta continua! :) Ecoleetage (talk) 19:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with the above, though I oppose-!voted. My comment stands, you're a good editor, and I look forward to supporting your next RFA, and to helping in any way I can in the meantime. Best wishes, UltraExactZZ ^Claims ~ Evidence 19:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! sorry if i sounded a bit harsh; you have made a lot of fantastic contributions and i think it's more a case of not right now than anything else. I could find about 5 articles you'd created, but 3 were redirects; apologies if i missed any. Ironholds 21:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the thanks. Perhaps I misinterpreted the statement about admins and managers. There is always another day! --Regents Park (roll amongst the roses) 21:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wish you all the best, and I'm here if you need help with anything. As I said, I'm sure you'd be a fantastic admin with a bit more experience, and I'll be glad to support after a few months. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there. Sorry I couldn't support. Just try to be as careful as you can. And remember, adminship is no big deal, so you are a good editor even without the mop. :) Cheers! Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 21:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're more than welcome for the comment. I've been in a similar position just below the threshold - but like I said you're certainly on the right track. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing you on RFA again! Shereth 22:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Tinkleheimer, thanks for taking the time to try and address my concerns, but unfortunately I think you only furthered them. I feel that building the community is a great and strongly encourage it, but the only reason community building should be done is to benefit the project (ie meet ups, IRC) and quite frankly at this day and age sign books do just the opposite and have lead to a community all right, but in no way one that helps to build a encyclopedia. As for the whole Jimbo argument I must say that just because Jimbo says does not mean it is right, or that I have to agree with it. I would also like to point out that Jimbo made that comment over 2 years ago, when sign books were not causing the issues they are now and people were not gamming Wikipedia and turning into a encyclopedia. Also, just because Jimbo said it is alright does not mean you have to do it. As for your team leader analogy, I guess I do not get it. I as a administrator gets blamed for the mistakes of my so called “employees”? How do we get the blunt of criticism any more than an active editor does? I hope you take this RfA as a learning curve and will be back even stronger than ever saying, “I told you so” Tiptoety ^talk 22:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I found you via The Great Pumpkin's talk page. (His username is La Grande something or other....) Kyaa the Catlord (talk) 04:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which D.186 HS did you go to? I'm from the area, myself. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 02:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, Southeast.. the Spartans. LOL I very briefly dated a girl that went to Southeast when I worked for WDBR, about seven years ago.

Get used to the "feeling old" thing.. it only gets worse with each passing year!  :) --InDeBiz1 (talk) 04:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I got started as a summer intern for Fig, back when he was doing Nights at WDBR. About six weeks or so into things, somebody either quit or got fired - depending on which version of the story you believe - and I was offered their on-air shift. The rest is, as they say, history.

Reach out to somebody at WDBR about an internship or maybe even a part-time on-air shift. Dave Daniels is the Program Director. Or, I could probably get you a show on WQNA out at CACC, as one of my best friends in the industry is the Program Director there. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 06:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Let's take this off-wiki, per Wikipedia is not Myspace. Please feel free to email me. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 06:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your comment on Leeboyge's talk page and thought it was quite funny. Just thought I'd let you know. Useight (talk) 05:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No worries Tinkleheimer. Give it a few months and a bit more experience (I suggest XfD if you're looking to get your hands dirty), and I'm sure you'll sail straight through! Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 08:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]

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Congrats are in order for you, too! --Ecoleetage (talk) 19:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the response.--Asdfghuiop (talk) 03:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

		The Editor's Barnstar
		In recognition of your fine contributions to Wikipedia. Keep up the good work! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, you deserve it! Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 20:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! You appear to be a friendly and deserving user, so gratefully, we'll get along well. You quote you have a lot of pages on your Watchlist; do you do that purposely? Like, do you want help filtering?Sυρєrıor ^{(Reply!,Contribs)} 19:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I completed the first episode's table at Shear Genius (Season 2). If you can write up a little summary for the first episode, that would be great! I'll also be on IRC so you can contact me there too. Mike H. Fierce! 03:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Congrats on getting 2 DYKs:-) Keep up the good work here!--SJP (talk) 03:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem:-) Wikipedia can sometimes be a stressful place, and I try to lighten the mood up a bit by leaving people encouraging comments. I try to do it daily, and it is my hope more people will start doing it as well:-)--SJP (talk) 06:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Tinkleheimer! How are you? I withdrew my nomination. Most editors who opposed my RfA expressed that I need to argue better in AfDs. I will take care about the concerns raised by them and apply again after sometime. I would like to thank you for supporting my RfA and if you have any suggestion for me, feel free to contact me. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 12:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going around and messaging any user who had discussed on the Smash Bros. taskforce and alerting them about Brawl's second attempt at the FAC. Any comments are appreciated, especially constructive criticism. I don't want the FAC to drag out so long that SandyGeorgia will be forced to close it before things could be properly fixed. So if you have time, please leave a comment. Thanks very much in advance! --haha169 (talk) 04:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you were listed as a participant in the League of Copy-Editors so it seems likely you can ... The thing is the Military history wikiproject urgently needs prose pros to help with our best articles. Milhist covers a broad range of interesting and varied subjects from film to biography, battles to weaponry, and Roman emperors to twentieth-century dictators. In Milhist, A-Class has become the last port of call before FAC and we are looking for people to help identify prose and MoS issues at A-Class A-Class Reviews and help fix them prior to featured article candidacy. We also have a copy-editing section in our Logistics Dept and that can always use experienced copy-editors. For most of our articles, you don't need to be a specialist in the subject matter, just good with words.

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Hi I'm that editor at the FFIVDS article that went kinda good at the end.

• Listen sorry for that was still kinda angry for the grou[p here banning my first I.P for

not having sources for every part I edited. I really want to edit here and make kinda new friends too. User:Zolo6 —Preceding comment was added at 04:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zolo6 (talk • contribs) 05:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome, and I'm glad it was noticed. Also, I corrected a typo on this page as well. It was either a typo, or very strange grammar. Leonard^(Bloom) 14:49, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem. Leonard^(Bloom) 18:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Generally, talk about what the reviewers say rather than speaking for them; for example, “Reviewer X of Publication Y took issue with elements of the game such as X, Y, and Z” instead of “Review X said that “I took issue with elements of the game such as X, Y, and Z.” If a reviewer has a good comment which sums up the positive/negative/overall reaction, or a particular sentiment common in many reviews, it might be more appropriate to use. If adding sales data, make sure to provide context; did it sell those 4.2 million units within three months of release or three years? If possible, break down the sales by region; did the Japanese like the game, but Americans not buy it? Use reviews whose scores are outliers from the average ratings to find key points that were liked or disliked about a game. If all reviews except for one average around a 9 out of 10, and the one is a 7 out of 10, there is probably some clear negative points to be found in it; the same works with very positive reviews. Perhaps most importantly, give proper weight and keep a neutral point of view. If the game received mostly negative scores, having three paragraphs on positive aspects and glossing over the bad parts in a sentence or two conveys the wrong impression to readers. Things you can help with: Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks view watch edit history shell vg talk alerts purge AfDs Cobra (game engine) (4 participants) Dink (software company) (1 participant) Jeffrey Johnson (actor) (2 participants) Rayman: The Animated Series (5 participants) Sam Beres (2 participants) Endor AG (3 participants; relisted) Cue Club 2 (3 participants; relisted) Planet Half-Life (4 participants; relisted) Flash Element TD (5 participants; relisted) Merge discussions Neo Geo Pocket (discussion) Minecraft – Volume Beta (discussion) Other discussions No major discussions Featured content candidates Ada Wong (nom) The Sims 4 (nom) Smash Hit (nom) Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted (nom) Good article nominations Donkey Kong (nom) Puff-puff (onomatopoeia) (start) Tina Armstrong (start) Birdo (nom) Shin Megami Tensei V (nom) Justin Yu (nom) Kim Kitsuragi (start) Miner 2049er (start) Pixel Piracy (start) Ether One (start) Dr Disrespect (start) Pokémon Sword and Shield Expansion Pass (start) Hotline Miami (start) Pokémon fan games (start) The Outer Worlds (start) River Raid (start) The Great Giana Sisters (start) Visions of Mana (start) Mario Party: Island Tour (start) Meltan (start) Bejeweled (video game) (start) Haunter (Pokémon) (start) Lavender Town (start) Bit City (start) Dendy (console) (start) DYK nominations No did you know nominations Reviews and reassessments The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (nom) Pokémon Channel (nom) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (nom) A Space for the Unbound (rev) Tetris (NES video game) (rev) Bit City (rev) Articles that need... assessment (2) (0) reassessment (0) cleanup (8) infoboxes (18) cover art (252) screenshots (8,826) photos (66) translation from japan (189) creation merging Project Navigation VG Project Main pages Main project – talk Project category – talk Portal – talk VG Project Departments Assessment – talk Cleanup – talk Peer review – talk   Magazines – talk Newsletter – talk Video Game Images – talk

• Newsletter delivered by xenobot 03:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey me again I'm trying to upload images for the Yu-Gi-Oh character articles, but can you give me a little explanation on how to organize pictures I'm trying to upload it's sorta confusing. Thanks. --Zolo6 (talk) 04:48, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This edit summary was you likely taking a knock at yourself for forgetting to put a signature, but it might be construed as you beating up on the candidate. Might wanna put in a dummy edit to clarify that. –xenocidic (talk) 18:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to thank you for your support on my RfA, even though it did not succeed. When I feel I'm more than ready, I may (extreme maybe) try again. Much appreciated, and happy editing. Leonard^(Bloom) 19:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand. All I did was ask nicely if you would sign my autograph book and shoutbox! What's the big deal? Sure I'd like more signatures, but it doesn't mean the world to me. And yes, it did seem rude. I was nice enough to sign yours, so what's the big deal if you signed mine? --Soccer5525 (Tk • Ctrb) 22:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then. I guess I can't tell you your opinion is wrong. But even so, I'd be glad if you kindly sign my autograph book anytime you'd like. Thanks. --Soccer5525 (Tk • Ctrb) 01:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm attempting to get a consensus on the talk page for Talk:I Love Money. If you would like to add your thoughts, it would be greatly appreciated. IRK!_{Leave me a note or two} 06:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to everyone who participated in my RfA, regardless of their !vote. I have withdrawn the nomination as a failure at 19 supports, 45 opposes, and 9 neutral statements. As has been written and sung, you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need — and what I need is to go back to working on our shared project. Not everyone has to be an admin; there is a role for each of us. After reflection, I feel I don't have the temperament to secure community consensus as an admin at any point, and I will not be applying again in the future — and hey, that's all right, 'cause I stay true to the philosophy that adminship is no big deal: I tried, I failed, and now I'll return to doing what I've always done. I have an extremely strong belief in the consensus process, and the consensus was clear. I will be devoting my energies to volunteering at MedCab and working up a complete series of articles on the short stories of Ernest Hemingway, among lord knows what else. Thanks again to everyone who spared the time to weigh in on this one. It was made in better faith than it probably seemed. Mr. IP 《Defender of Open Editing》 14:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for participating, tall fellow. Cheers! Mr. IP 《Defender of Open Editing》 14:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, bugger. That is exactly the kind of thing I do not want to hear when I've just spent an hour finishing an update and thought I was finally done with it :/

Okay *sigh* I guess I'll have to find someone knowledgeable to quickly review that article or else find a replacement. Thanks for the heads up. Gatoclass (talk) 10:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that was unexpected! Thanks very much Tinkleheimer, much appreciated :) Gatoclass (talk) 10:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games Newsletter

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 5 - July 2008 Archive before | Archive After To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. Project At a Glance As of July 2008, the project has: 92 Featured articles 19 Featured Lists 11 Featured Topics 0 articles in Featured Article Review 16 A-Class articles 231 Good Articles 1 articles in Good Article Review 11 articles for Peer review Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics Promoted FA/FL: Flood (Halo), List of songs in Guitar Hero: Aerosmith, List of voice actors in the Grand Theft Auto series, Super Smash Bros. Brawl Topic: Devil May Cry (series), Super Smash Bros. (series) Demoted FA/FL: None Promoted GA: Devil May Cry 4, Final Fantasy III, Golden Sun: The Lost Age, Guitar Hero: On Tour, Halo 2 Original Soundtrack, Halo: The Flood, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, WWE SmackDown (video game series) Demoted GA: RuneScape News There were 304 new articles in July 2008 Well, gee, thanks 1up! 1UP.com recently changed their rating scale. See discussion for details. The list of almost 700 articles has been checked and updated. Special thanks to MrKIA11, Dukeruckley, JFlav, FMF, and several other editors for checking the large number of articles. Inactive project cleanup Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here. Wikipedia:WikiProject Tales of deleted. Wikipedia:WikiProject Indie Game Developers deleted. Wikipedia:WikiProject Arcade games moved to page under WP:VG. See new Arcade task force page. Feature: Reliable Sources A common issue with writing video games articles is that it's often natural for editors to turn to the internet for all their information. However, using only online sources can be problematic, especially if editors are not familiar with Wikipedia's sources guidelines. First off, for every notable, reliable web site about gaming that exists on the web, there are twenty-five fan sites or personal blogs. As per Wikipedia's, content guideline about reliable sources, a proper source that should be used in an article must meet the following criteria: Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. How do you determine if website X meets the criteria? Look around for information on who owns the website or if the website has a staff and established editorial processes; if the site doesn't have information posted online, send an email to the webmaster or editor. It can be hard to definitely prove the a website has a "reputation" for accuracy. Thus, it's probably easier to go with established sites to begin with, such as IGN or GameSpot. If you use a source with borderline qualifications, be prepared to justify the site at content review or to other editors. WikiProject Video Games has a partially-complete listing of vetted sources in print or online at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources, as well as more detailed information on what constitutes a reliable source. To find sources on the internet, checking Google News as well as simple web searches can help spot references you might have missed. Often, however, older news articles are locked behind pay gates or subscription services. A workaround is using a service like ProQuest or LexisNexis, although unless you have access to these through a college or education institution it will likely cost you money regardless. Libraries can have old newspapers and copies of magazines; to assist in finding print sources online, WikiProject Video Games has a Magazines Department where you can contact users to get copies of certain reviews, previews, or features from old magazines. If you have gaming magazines of your own, add yourself to the list! Things you can help with: Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks view watch edit history shell vg talk alerts purge AfDs Cobra (game engine) (4 participants) Dink (software company) (1 participant) Jeffrey Johnson (actor) (2 participants) Rayman: The Animated Series (5 participants) Sam Beres (2 participants) Endor AG (3 participants; relisted) Cue Club 2 (3 participants; relisted) Planet Half-Life (4 participants; relisted) Flash Element TD (5 participants; relisted) Merge discussions Neo Geo Pocket (discussion) Minecraft – Volume Beta (discussion) Other discussions No major discussions Featured content candidates Ada Wong (nom) The Sims 4 (nom) Smash Hit (nom) Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted (nom) Good article nominations Donkey Kong (nom) Puff-puff (onomatopoeia) (start) Tina Armstrong (start) Birdo (nom) Shin Megami Tensei V (nom) Justin Yu (nom) Kim Kitsuragi (start) Miner 2049er (start) Pixel Piracy (start) Ether One (start) Dr Disrespect (start) Pokémon Sword and Shield Expansion Pass (start) Hotline Miami (start) Pokémon fan games (start) The Outer Worlds (start) River Raid (start) The Great Giana Sisters (start) Visions of Mana (start) Mario Party: Island Tour (start) Meltan (start) Bejeweled (video game) (start) Haunter (Pokémon) (start) Lavender Town (start) Bit City (start) Dendy (console) (start) DYK nominations No did you know nominations Reviews and reassessments The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (nom) Pokémon Channel (nom) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (nom) A Space for the Unbound (rev) Tetris (NES video game) (rev) Bit City (rev) Articles that need... assessment (2) (0) reassessment (0) cleanup (8) infoboxes (18) cover art (252) screenshots (8,826) photos (66) translation from japan (189) creation merging Project Navigation VG Project Main pages Main project – talk Project category – talk Portal – talk VG Project Departments Assessment – talk Cleanup – talk Peer review – talk   Magazines – talk Newsletter – talk Video Game Images – talk

• Newsletter delivery by xenobot 22:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 10:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know, I have removed misinformation from your userpage. Thanks for understanding.  Asenine  11:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If Jimbo can have it on his page, why can't I have it on mine?<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 18:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most of what I want to say is already on that incidents page. I was not attacking Schuym1 personally; I was merely questioning his motives, and especially his actions, first with the AfD tag, then his words toward me. I have debated other editors on topics (and articles) in the past, and I don't mind giving in or backing down when someone produces a convincing argument, no matter what their age, experience or position. ("I would give in to the editor's office boy, if the office boy happened to be right." - Ayn Rand)

Calling me a "jerk", dropping an F-bomb, then going behind my back/over my head to the incidents board, does little if anything to convince me he even has a point, much less is justified in placing an AfD tag on an article whose topic he admits he knows nothing about. What I see is a typical teenaged attitude of "If I don't know it, it's not important." I deal with that 'tude every week in my present job (I teach high school, among other things), and if a student knows a topic (or can explain it) better than I can, I make a point of bringing them up, having them state their case to the class, and praising them for it. Hardly the work of a "troll", I'd say. (At worst, I was filibustering him, or "giving him enough rope to hang himself" - which I'd say he did. Standard discussion strategy.) I do appreciate your qualifying your words, on the incidents page, as I said there. "This looks to me" is one thing; "this is" is another, and I'd say we both understand the difference. You didn't make an accusation, you expressed an opinion, and I'm OK with that. Zephyrad (talk) 07:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]