User talk:Tedickey: Difference between revisions

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Hello, Tedickey, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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/ɪ/ roses, business (/ˈbɪznɪs/) Who pronounces it like that? (Not the natives ;-) Tedickey 22:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do. Is it /ə/ as in Rosa's, then? And do you pronounce roses and Rosa's differently? kwami 00:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I pronounce them differently. The "y" comes off sounding like the "a" in Rosa's, and the "e" in roses is a shorter sound. Tedickey 00:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This T. E. Dickey? Welcome :-) - David Gerard 17:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yes (google is your friend) Tedickey 17:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to User: Tedickey, you will be blocked from editing. Jayson (talk) 17:51, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Then you own this page now, since you're forbidding me to edit it. Tedickey (talk) 17:53, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, I am forbidding you from deleting ones comments on your user page. This is an ongoing problem and therefore it is feasible to keep my comments open for archiving or other purposes. Jayson (talk) 18:04, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me for butting in here but (I'm gonna do it anyways).... <soapbox rant> Daven you need to get a grip... you can't "forbid" ANY user from doing what they wish on THEIR userpage. You left a personal attack and he chose to remove it. Its his page, he can do as he wishes, if you don't like it stop dropping by. You also need to stop telling users they will be blocked for doing things you don't like, you don't have the power or ability. The most you could possibly do is bring behaviour to an admins attention and let them handle it. You need to get familiar with Wikipedia policies in more detail before you go handing out instructions or criticisms. </soapbox rant>

I’m sorry you feel that I don’t have a "grip" on Wikipedia’s polices. That wasn’t a personal attack that was a clearly defined statement saying to stop doing a certain thing that really wasn’t out of good faith. Second, you need to look at WP:CALM your demeanor is very appalling if you could please calm down and explain your feelings in a slow intellectual way I will be able to respond better. Although, It may be his user page I find it disrespectful and against ethics for him to delete my request to stop. I also don’t find it very appealing that you decided to come in and escalate this to unneeded levels. How would you feel if you wrote a “heart felt” request for someone to stop doing a certain action but the person totally ignored you and deleted your comments? And I know I can’t block him and that really was trying to get him to stop, but I really felt that was against Wikipedia’s polices. Jayson (talk) 21:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reverting my change to NTFS. I tried searching for "New Technology" in two different browsers on that page and the search failed. An eyeball search found the reference, though. --Yamla (talk) 16:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Inpage search may depend on the browser - particularly since most of Microsoft's pages use frames Tedickey (talk) 16:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Awarded for your reverts on the John Steinbeck article in the battle against vandals who would destroy the wikipedia. LordHarris (talk) 21:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry that your article was deleted so quickly. Actually, when the administrator performed the actual deletion, I was about to remove my own deletion template and let the article stay. What I suggest now is this:

• Create a user subpage (such as User:Tedickey/whatever). This will allow you to work undisturbed.
• Enter the basic information to make your page a valid stub.
• Once this is done, you can move that page to its permanent location, that is, Atria Software.

--Blanchardb-Me^MyEars_MyMouth-timed 20:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Userfied at User:Tedickey/Atria Software. android79 20:29, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks Tedickey 20:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First I would like to thank you for your very mature tone and second I am surprised that you would really think that southern Maryland (which is part of the Washington DC area and is most definitely NOT southern cultured) is southern cultured and western Maryland (a rural, largely undeveloped area which would make sense that it would retain some southern culture) is not. I-95, which splits Maryland down the middle and connects the two metropolitan areas of Baltimore and Washington DC allowed easy migration from people from the north after the expansion of the federal government that occurred after WWII. This left much of northern, central, and southern Maryland quite devoid of much southern culture (this migration hit Maryland especially hard due to its close proximity to the northern states). However, western Maryland is still quite rural and undeveloped, thus some of its formerly predominant southern culture is still present there. Southern Maryland has fallen victim to much of the northern migration that has happened since the end of WWII due to its close proximity to the Washington DC area and as a result, has lost most of its southern culture. In fact, most people don't even consider Maryland as a whole a southern state anymore; it has simply changed too much culturally to even be considered "Southern" anymore. Instead, it better resembles a Northeastern state. I’m sorry if this offends you.--Lucky Mitch 02:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me, it was wrong of me to say "extensive" research. I have merely read up on southern culture and historical migration patterns of the people of the United States. Now will you please defend your argument and respond to the above?--Lucky Mitch 03:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the industrial jobs prior to WWII came from the northern states (North Carolina isn't a northern state). Since the cost of living was lower and Maryland was only just below the Mason-Dixon line, northerners (mostly from the northeast) largely traveled down I-95 and settled around the metropolitan areas of Baltimore and Washington DC unfortunately, this includes most of southern Maryland. Urban sprawl has allowed expansion into southern Maryland. However, western Maryland (which is located in the Appalachian Mountains, is still quite rural so it would make sense that it would retain some southern culture. Just look around Wikipedia and you'll see.

Western Maryland, Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area, Washington Metropolitan Area, BosWash, Appalachia

Perhaps you're thinking of the Eastern-Western Shore of Maryland? I suppose the more southerly parts of those areas (specifically the western coastal area) could fall under the "Southern Maryland" category. Though I understand that some parts of those areas are increasingly being populated by northerners as well, but I also understand that the culture there is still predominately Southern.--Lucky Mitch 13:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, clearly we have some kind of miscommunication here. You can't just generalize like that and say there are no industrial jobs in southern Maryland especially when the DC metro area expands into southern Maryland. Buddy, I'm a serious map/demography geek; you can't fool me. And I'm sorry about this, but your history of I-95 is just wrong. I-95 was one of the first interstates built in the US, it runs up and down the entire eastern sea-board, from Maine to Florida. It, along with the rest of the interstate systems, was created first during the depression by the will of FDR in hopes to get more people jobs and pull us out of the depression. In fact this right here is a picture of the whole sytem just in 1955

And also forums are not reliable. They are made by unknown people with no credibility

P.S.

I hope you don't mind me asking how old you are exactly?

--Lucky Mitch 17:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

heh - if you had any potential at all for research, you'd know it by now. 18:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

It is your argument that is falling apart and I anxiously await your reply--Lucky Mitch 17:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure your not talking about the eastern shore region? It looks like it from what your sources say.--Lucky Mitch 17:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to this map, there are no southern accents even worth notability in Maryland in general.

And again just look at these Wikipedia sites-Western Maryland, Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area, Washington Metropolitan Area, BosWash, Appalachia

--Lucky Mitch 18:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--Lucky Mitch 18:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is the TURNPIKE that you're thinking of, it was not the interstate as a whole. These maps are showing that southern Maryland is in the DC metro area (which is NOT southern). I am going to be man enough to stop the edit war we are having, but you still have your position to explain. Still eagerly awaiting your response as always.--Lucky Mitch 00:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Sigh* Even when the facts are right in front of you, you still ignore them. Please read this Wikipedia article telling the history of the interstate system-Interstate Highway System.--Lucky Mitch 00:59, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, so you are more knowlegable than ALL of these people on Wikipedia, says who? You? Face it man southern Maryland is part of the Washington DC metro area. I'm sure there are rural parts of it, but there are rural parts every where.--Lucky Mitch 01:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Man, you must make a lot of money doing those rural jobs you do in southern Maryland [1]

This site seems to inclued southern maryland in DC metro area [2]

And here is some history on the US Highway System [3] --Lucky Mitch 19:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More things describing southern Maryland as suburban Washington DC and Baltimore- [4] [5] [6] I'm enjoying this discussion aren't you? Hope to hear from you soon.--Lucky Mitch (talk) 22:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This map seems to show that southern Maryland is quite densely populated and not quite as rural as you say it is-[7] --Lucky Mitch (talk) 23:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for responding. My original argument was that southern Maryland is predominantly not southern in culture do to the expansion of the Baltimore-Washington DC metropolitan area into the area. While the core urban city area is not in southern Maryland, its suburbs are. The Orlando metropolitan area, where I live back home, is predominantly not southern in culture judging from the other 2 metro areas I lived in before (Atlanta and Birmingham). Seminole County, Florida (the county where my family lives and where I still legally live) is part of the Orlando metropolitan area but it is not in the core urban city area; it is a suburban county. However there are, like in almost every county in America, rural areas in Seminole County as well. This does not make it a rural county though, it simply has rural parts in it and while there are most definitely southern cultured people in the area as well (in both urban and rural areas), the culture has been heavily diluted due to migration from the north and west giving it a mostly typical "Florida" culture. You will rarely find a 100% urban area or an area with 100% of a certain culture these days (don't get me wrong, I know there are). Just because where you live in particular southern Maryland area that is rural and southern in culture does not make the entire southern Maryland region rural and southern in culture as well. Washington DC and Baltimore's suburbs have expanded their way into southern Maryland bringing with them their northern culture and there are more of those suburban yankees than there are of you good old fashion rural southerners even if you live in different areas of the region. This means generally speaking, that the southern Maryland area is predominantly not southern in culture even though you and the people you live around are. In a nutshell, even though where you live in southern Maryland is rural and southern in culture, most of the rest of the rest of the region isn't.

I am sorry that this discussion has gotten so hostile, and I feel that I am partly to blame. I will try to be more civil from now on.--Lucky Mitch (talk) 02:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I never said that "Southern" and "rural" were synonomous. I looked at this site- [8] you recomended and I'm not quite sure what you wanted me to see. I clicked on the Maryland section and it just showed me what I already believe; that southern Maryland is indeed part of the DC metro area. Am I missing something?--Lucky Mitch (talk) 02:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The references are not authoritative" (?), references by:

1) Penn State University, documenting the Patuxent extent of John Smith's second 1608 voyage

2) An article on the National Park Service Bay Gateways site by the premier Chesapeake Kent Mountford (see his 100+ academic articles at the www.bayjournal.com site) who says that the Patuxent was first seen by westerner in 1588 by Spaniard Vicente Gonzalez

3) An historic chronology of Mid-Atlantic waterways posted by the US Army Corps of Engineers

Bernie Fowler should be considered as the premier Patuxent River environmentalist over the past four decades: affirmations to that fact by several Md. governors of both parties and by his WP page.

I have replaced the references. ...... DLinth (user link above) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.130.18 (talk) 01:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just got the note from Fred below. He will add a statement to the website to state what those involved with the Patuxent River know as common knowledge...that he was the first Riverkeeper. How 'bout you move on to other topics where you can do more good rather than this one, where you have several of us who are very familiar with the topic......You can do a lot more good elsewhere, I know, because I've noticed how many, many very useful edits you make on other topics where you correct goofs, real intentional vandalism, etc.....Sound good?

By the way, the closing to all use of Queen Anne Bridge is relevant to many river users, and is easily confirmed by driving out there and looking at the big, new 12-foot high fences blocking the bridge and the signs...That part should stay. I don't much care about the format of that bridge section (I didn't author that part, unlike much of the rest of the article), I was simply trying to add the towns and make it more concise than the original....)

Finally, look again at the Hoyer quote about Fowler. He says "there are no greater..." so the adjective "greatest" is accurate....But reword that if you like; was Hoyer, not me, who used the word "great"

-----Original Message-----

From: paxriverkeeper [9]

Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 10:07 AM

To: (DLinth)

One more thought. Waterkeeper Alliance in New York owns the Trademark "Riverkeeper" and several other related marks (I.e creekkeeper, baykeeper etc).

I can draft a simple statement for Wikipedia that clarifies that while there have been many and continue to be various stewards and devotees on the river that our program was the first and only to be legally licensed and entitled to use the name and title.

-----Original Message-----

From: paxriverkeeper [10]

Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 10:00 AM

To: (DLinth)

I can have Rogard add a line on our web site. .....

Our program did not officially exist until June 2004 when it was voted into existence at the Waterkeeper Annual meeting. We were granted at that time, a temporary license to use the name. That license became permanent in 2005 which was unusually fast for a newly created program. The license is renewed automatically each year unless there is reason to believe we have violated or ceased to comply with the terms of the license. This stuff is easily documented.

Whoever has raised this issue has not done the homework. They probably assume the term "Riverkeeper" is self appointed which is a common misunderstanding.--(end of note)

DLinth (talk) 15:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hmm - bottom line, several abusive and hostile comments, followed by a suggestion to go away. I'll keep it in mind. Tedickey 00:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hey, but I'm getting much better, yes?.... also three complements from me, one above ("many, many useful edits....") that I noticed you've made (including, I might add, on this article), and not only that but a complement from me in the last edit and not only that, I was writing here, now, to say "nice catch/suggestion" on adding a reference (I added two) for the unattributed sediment-nutrient numbers /"superlative" ("Patuxent is the only major tributary....") I must be getting "soft"....Didn't mean to be abusive or hostile to a fellow Marylander!.....So glass half-full at least?....DLinth

Perhaps - bear in mind that I'm not trying to prevent you from making edits, but to ensure that they're referenced to reliable sources. Sometimes it's apparent that sources do not agree - in that case, some mention should be made to ensure that the topics are neutral (no point in citing just one side of an argument). Tedickey 12:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, do you know why whenever I sign in to WP on my Mac at home it signs me in, then kicks me out when I go to an article, but on PC's it's just fine....any suggestions or workarounds? Thanks....DLinth

No - I haven't had to solve that particular problem. I suspect that Wikipedia's making a check to see if it can get some basic information on the originating IP-address (to reduce the number of fake addresses). Occasionally I see one that's fallen through the cracks - an IP-address that was faked. Perhaps your internet provider isn't helping, e.g., if you're a DSL subscriber and their network identification isn't complete. Tedickey 12:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks....I hadn't thought of that; the provider I have uses some "rotating" IP addresses (changes most ever time you go on line) and some or all of those may be causing problems. Thanks for the help......DLinth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.253.4.21 (talk) 15:21, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no problem Tedickey 23:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What google check did you search for your ignorant statement? Let me remind you, sir, just because you have been on wikipedia since the abacus was created, does not give you free reign to walk around wikipedia as your own private idaho. you need to police yourself and your comments. VERY credible people come on here and write factual articles. forget not, that every ignorant comment YOU put IS SEEN by everyone else and deminishes your own credibility. I would suggest that you not tarnish your good name on wikipedia and limit YOUR comments to ones based on fact. If you disagree with me, I would MORE than happy to debate this. I apologize for the tone of this comment, but just as you are a watchdog of non-sensical articles thrown on this site in haste, I am a watchdog of you. Checks and Balances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallicio (talk • contribs) 08:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will simply ask politely, please leave the page alone unless there are factual or slanderous errors. You add nothing by removing information. At the very least, respect the officers the gave their lives and let them be honored on this page. The families appreciate their honor. Don't disgrace them with your wiki-arrogance. Go spend your time with your family. Take up a hobby. Volunteer some time at an old-folks home. When one gets to the point where you are at, perhaps it is time to pass the torch of editing to people who remain impartial from their own opinions. Don't be a bad-faith editor. R/S Sallicio (talk) 19:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)Sallicio[reply]

You stated that you "cited plagiarized text added by Sallicio". What did I "plagiarize?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallicio (talk • contribs) 21:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your name does not appear to be Lt. Lou Oertly. Tedickey (talk) 22:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, how do you know that I am not Lou? Secondly, it wouldn't matter if I am or am not, because of self-plagiarism (that I just found out about). So you are right... but "cited plagiarized text added by Sallicio" could imply that I did it with the intention of plagiarizing. Perhaps, "added reference" could have been more accurate. Either way, now I know more about plagiarism. Good looking out. Sallicio (talk) 20:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)Sallicio[reply]

The article states that it was created in 1996. You would have been too young at that point to be a Lieutenant, even had you been in the County Police. Tedickey (talk) 20:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was an error at http://www.famousamericans.net/johnbanister/ which was the father in the first paragraph and the son in the 2nd who is the suject of the Wiki page. Agreed the Article should have been improved and properly linked -- Like I said we will double check in the future. The reference however added to the reads information not only on the subject but his father of the same name.