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== Suggestion ==

I suggest that covfefe be read "carry on valiantly; flaunt every fair evaluation." Thus, in context, "Despite the constant negative press carry on valiantly; flaunt every fair evaluation."
[[User:TheDean|TheDean]] ([[User talk:TheDean|talk]]) 17:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
:I like "F@#% every-f@#%ing everybody". But I also can't think of any V words. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8CtSK7YPqI Maybe Big Bird can.] [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 19:09, [[May 31]], [[2017]] (UTC)
I suggest cov fe'fe be read: "I will stand up; stand firm" Thus, in context it will be clear, "Despite the constant negative press, I will stand up; stand firm." This is in accordance to translation of Arabic to English in Google Translate with the spelling cov fe'fe.
Sharon Akins
:I'd like to also go with the Arabic interpretation, but I would rather suggest, "In spite of the negative press, I shall rise (and crush fake news)!" --[[Special:Contributions/79.242.203.134|79.242.203.134]] ([[User talk:79.242.203.134|talk]]) 22:33, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

== Merge [[Talk:Covfefe incident]] ==

Please consider merging [[Talk:Covfefe incident]] into this talk page. The current article was moved from [[Covfefe incident]] earlier today. &mdash; <span style="font-family:Segoe UI,Lucida Sans,Lucida Grande,sans-serif">[[User:Peterwhy|Peter]][[User talk:Peterwhy|'''<span style="color:#366">why</span>''']]</span> 18:03, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

== Does Chris Cillizza mean anything? ==

In the bigger picture, I mean. He's taking up a relatively huge chunk here. If he's very important, that's understandable. If he isn't, it's not. Seems especially weird literally hovering over the undeniably crucial Ric Flair. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 19:01, [[May 31]], [[2017]] (UTC)

== Trumpism ==

See also [[Trumpism]].--[[User:Heyhowareyoudoing|Heyhowareyoudoing]] ([[User talk:Heyhowareyoudoing|talk]]) 20:46, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
:That's not this. This is a single thing, like a [[Bushism]] or [[malapropism]], not an abstract somethingness like Trumpism or [[-ism|the rest]]. You can't just take half of Bushism and slap a Trump on it. At least you couldn't in the good old days. Lately, of course, [https://twitter.com/hashtag/covfefegate nothing means nothing.] ''I think'' you'll still have to defeat the old definition of Trumpism before you make a new one, though. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 21:11, [[May 31]], [[2017]] (UTC)

== "iPhone" Is Incorrect ==

I don't have a source handy, but it's been widely reported that Trump uses an older Android of some sort.
[[Special:Contributions/71.217.53.150|71.217.53.150]] ([[User talk:71.217.53.150|talk]]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 21:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/29/trump-trades-unsecure-android-device-for-shiny-new-iphone/ Shiny and new.] Allegedly. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 21:17, [[May 31]], [[2017]] (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2017 ==

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Please add the IPA pronunciation of "covfefe." /kəːv.fə'feɪ/ [[User:Quantumapoptosi|Quantumapoptosi]] ([[User talk:Quantumapoptosi|talk]]) 23:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> <span style="background: turquoise;font-family: 'Segoe Script', 'Comic Sans MS';">([[User talk:Josve05a|'''t''']])&nbsp;[[User:Josve05a|<span style="color:white;">'''Josve05a'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[Special:Contributions/Josve05a|'''c''']])</span> 23:36, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
:{{done}}. [[User:Holy Goo|Holy Goo]] ([[User talk:Holy Goo|talk]]) 00:41, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

== Deletion of material ==

An editor deleted this:
{{talkquote|''Los Angeles Times'' columnist Matt Pearce wrote, "Covfefe had become one of those exhausting cultural events that, from time to time, inspires a collective response so that we feel in contact with each other, or at least do not feel left out."<ref>{{cite news|last1=Pearce|first1=Matt|title='Covfefe' shows how we are all wasting our finite lives|url=http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-trump-covfefe-20170531-story.html|accessdate=May 31, 2017|work=Los Angeles Times|date=May 31, 2017}}</ref> Barton Swaim opined in ''The Washington Post'' that the nation's fascination with "covfefe" showed that it must not be truly imperiled, or it would not have time for such jesting.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Swaim|first1=Barton|title=If we’re laughing at ‘covfefe,’ things must not be so bad after all|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-were-laughing-at-covfefe-things-must-not-be-so-bad-after-all/2017/05/31/e5d2f2c6-4636-11e7-bcde-624ad94170ab_story.html|accessdate=May 31, 2017|work=The Washington Post|date=May 31, 2017}}</ref>}}
On the grounds that the people are not notable. They aren't bluelinked so maybe so, but the ''papers'' are notable and they're speaking in the voice of the paper and I think that's the basis for including the material. If it would help we could say "A Los Angeles Times columnist" instead, I guess.

Restored the material, inviting the editor or anyone else to comment. [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 05:42, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

:They're not the papers, they're just people. People without articles and without any apparent expertise in linguistics or Trump. If you suspend disbelief, ''maybe'' you can read Pearce's opinion piece in the paper's voice, but Swaim doesn't even try to pretend. Repeatedly refers to himself and his family, laughing over a breakfast table. Says "'''I''' offer three interpretations", yet Wikipedia cherrypicks one, for no discernible reason.
:Non-notable people can matter if their expert views are ''covered'' by an ''independent'' paper. The guy from Merriam-Webster is a good (but quiet) example. But every outlet pays its own columnists to fill its own space. Recycling that makes us more of an affiliate than an encylopedia, particularly when these nobodies are discussing something they admittedly don't understand, but found funny. If that's where we're setting the bar, ''everyone'' is qualified, so long as they heard about the tweet and think anything about Trump. This article is already stupid, but there has to be a limit somewhere. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 16:36, [[June 1]], [[2017]] (UTC)

:Is there some reason you restored these two and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Covfefe&diff=783262788&oldid=783262418 not Dara Lind?] Assuming it's the papers talking, isn't [[Callum Borchers]] (great name) already represented by Barton Swaim, via ''The Washington Post''? If so, screw him. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 16:39, [[June 1]], [[2017]] (UTC)

::Well 1) ''Vox'', while big, is nearly as famous and read as the ''Times'' and the ''Post'' I don't think, and 2) Lind's piece was quite polemical, and the ''Times'' and ''Post'' pieces not so much.

::They're not ''just'' people. If the ''LA Times'' chooses to pay you to write a piece and prints it, that means something. I agree that we wouldn't quote from Matt Pearce's ''personal blog'' (as we would from [[Paul Krugman]]'s or some other bluelinked pundit). But that fact that a piece appears in the ''Times'' (circulation 650,000) automatically makes it important, part of the national discussion. If for some reason you think it would better to not include the name of the person and just say "A columnist for the ''LA Times'' wrote..." without identifying the person, that's fine. I don't see that gain, but there's little loss, and then you don't have to worry about the particular person writing not, by himself, being notable, if that bothers you. [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 01:55, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
:::Attribution doesn't bother me. If we're going to host the verbatim views of non-notable people without specialist knowledge, it's ''better'' to say which people. Matt Pearce [http://www.latimes.com/la-me-columnists.sg-storygallery.html isn't even counted] as a columnist, instead as [http://www.latimes.com/la-bio-matt-pearce-staff.html a reporter.] In that capacity, I don't think we have any business relaying his personal opinion on any topic, just the straight facts he's paid to report.
:::On the other hand, the news world ''has'' changed drastically in the last decade and the lines between fact and opinion have blurred substantially. Maybe I've just become a dinosaur, as far as covfefe goes, getting in the way and doing it wrong. Maybe it's finally time to lumber off the road to tomorrow and just graze on ferns till the meteor comes. The future is yours, Herostratus! [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 18:00, [[June 3]], [[2017]] (UTC)

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== Trump may be viewing this article ==

Should we make extra considerations that Trump may be viewing this article? I was thinking that since this encyclopedia is supposed to be neutral, probably not. He may even be view this talk page, and this post. In that case if you are reading this, hey! Reply back please, thank you!--[[User:Covfefe user|Covfefe user]] ([[User talk:Covfefe user|talk]]) 06:21, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Hey, you're welcome. :v -- [[user:Enjoyer of World|Donald Trump]] 23:26, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
::<small>I think if he's reading this, you ought better write something like stating your eternal loyalty and belief in him, and beg him not to have you arrested and tortured for your puny mocking of the Rightful and Supreme Overlord of North America. --[[Special:Contributions/79.242.203.134|79.242.203.134]] ([[User talk:79.242.203.134|talk]]) 22:37, 5 June 2017 (UTC)</small>
:Also, my main point is that if evidence is provided that Trump himself read the Wikipedia article should that be included in the article?--[[User:Covfefe user|Covfefe user]] ([[User talk:Covfefe user|talk]]) 09:54, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Why should that matter? It's never brought up in any other articles of contemporary public figures even though it's a reasonable supposition. Also reporting on people's reaction to Wiki articles may be too meta: I don't know if it's against any actual site policy but it definitely feels against the spirit of this encyclopaedia. (wouldn't that count as [[Wikipedia:No original research|original research]] anyway?) [[User:DAud IcI|DAud IcI]] ([[User talk:DAud IcI|talk]]) 10:34, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
:I've heard [[Stone Cold Steve Austin]] read things I wrote on Wikipedia, word-for-word, on his podcast. It's a neat feeling, but that's about it. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 16:49, [[June 1]], [[2017]] (UTC)

If Trump tweets about this Wikipedia article or something associated, should that be included in the article?--[[User:Covfefe user|Covfefe user]] ([[User talk:Covfefe user|talk]]) 00:11, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

== Possible meaning ==

Covfefe is Arabic for "I will stand up" <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.166.247.218|67.166.247.218]] ([[User talk:67.166.247.218#top|talk]]) 07:30, 1 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:So many possible meanings have been claimed in foreign languages, such as Yiddish, German, and Russian to name a few.--[[User:Covfefe user|Covfefe user]] ([[User talk:Covfefe user|talk]]) 09:55, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
::Great, would you care to also add (sourced) rationales as to the possible Yiddish, German, and Russian meanings? --[[Special:Contributions/79.242.203.134|79.242.203.134]] ([[User talk:79.242.203.134|talk]]) 22:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
:No, that's from a faulty google translate translation. [[User:Peapod21|Peapod21]] ([[User talk:Peapod21|talk]]) 18:52, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

== Page views ==

Page views of the Wikipedia article should be included as part of a larger section on it's popularity. Kina like the [[Death of Micheal Jackson]]. https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Covfefe --[[User:Covfefe user|Covfefe user]] ([[User talk:Covfefe user|talk]]) 09:52, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
*28K views on May 31 is nothing that amazing.--'''[[User:Milowent|Milowent]]''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">[[Special:Contributions/Milowent|has]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">[[User talk:Milowent|spoken]]</span></sup></small> 18:47, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
::Yes but note that that article is not indexed (is tagged with<nowiki>__NOINDEX__</nowiki>) because it is at AfD. This prevents Google from showing the article high in its search results, I think. [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 01:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I thought Wikipedia was an [[encyclopaedia]]. This is too trivial to be included anywhere on WP – that is not to say that it isn't news worthy, and therefore worth brief attention by the ''news'' media. [[User:Rwood128|Rwood128]] ([[User talk:Rwood128|talk]]) 13:37, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
:You may wish to make your views known at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Covfefe incident]] in that case.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 13:45, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Alone, it is perhaps too trivial, unless our culture causes this to explode into something much larger than just another mistake by a widely disliked president. Ultimately, however, I believe it at least belongs with a list of his tweets, particularly since it was deleted and inclusion here preserves the historic record. Since it is relatively new in the gestalt, development outside of other influences is preferred until it reaches maturity. It can always be moved later.[[Special:Contributions/108.16.53.203|108.16.53.203]] ([[User talk:108.16.53.203|talk]]) 14:06, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

== This article has been mentioned by a media organization ==

This article has been mentioned by a media organization, although it was not English language, although I am not sure that matters. Is that enough to keep this article from being deleted?
--[[User:Covfefe user|Covfefe user]] ([[User talk:Covfefe user|talk]]) 00:15, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

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--[[User:Covfefe user|Covfefe user]] ([[User talk:Covfefe user|talk]]) 00:15, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

:{{Ping|Covfefe user}} No: one news article about this WP page is not, on its own, enough to stop this being deleted. You may wish to note this on the deletion discussion, but I doubt it will change many people's minds about the outcome - whatever that outcome is. It could be used to prove notability, but it doesn't seem (to me) like notability is the main issue about whether this should be deleted or not. (''PS, I should probably say that I was the one who added the {{tl|press}} template to the top of this page'') <span style="border=3px double #0075EA">[[User:Seagull123|'''<span style="background:#304747;color:#BED6D6">&nbsp;Seagull123&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Seagull123|'''<span style="color:#304747;background-color:#BED6D;">&nbsp;Φ&nbsp;''']]</span></span> 00:40, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

== Keep ==

Why delete? There is enough content and helpful to have info on incident. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/73.209.54.191|73.209.54.191]] ([[User talk:73.209.54.191#top|talk]]) 01:23, 2 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I agree, please keep the article. Recently, everybody started making jokes about covfefe and I didn't understand what they meant. I was desperate. As usually, in desperation, I turned to Wikipedia and alas, now I understand everything. I think Wikipedia should remain this reliable source of information for people who need them. No to deletionism! Deletionists, you deprive people of information! --[[Special:Contributions/217.155.37.242|217.155.37.242]] ([[User talk:217.155.37.242|talk]]) 12:35, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

== Are you people shitting me? ==


Is everyone apparently trying to build an encyclopedic article out of this nonsense doing it ironically? Does anyone seriously think there are questions to be answered, or a topic to be covered here? The guy fat-fingered "coverage", had a case of premature tweetation (far from unprecedented), forgot about it, and went to bed. The chain of events is pretty obvious and wouldn't be at all remarkable if it hadn't gone memetic, and even then, it's not like Wikipedia has a corresponding article for everything politics-related on KnowYourMeme. This deserves at best a small section in [[Donald Trump on social media]], which it already has. So, given that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Covfefe incident]] is showing some reasonably strong consensus to delete or merge, I'm going to [[WP:BB]] and redirect this to [[Donald Trump on social media#Covfefe]]. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rcombs|Rcombs]] ([[User talk:Rcombs#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rcombs|contribs]]) 02:07, 2 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2017 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Covfefe|answered=yes}}
cf. Enallage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enallage also, Figures of Speech: 60 Ways To Turn A Phrase, Arthur Quinn (1982/2010) [[Special:Contributions/50.52.118.126|50.52.118.126]] ([[User talk:50.52.118.126|talk]]) 18:14, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

: [[File:Padlock-silver-open.svg|28px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' According to the page's protection level you should be able to [[Help:Editing|edit the page yourself]]. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details.<!-- Template:ESp --> &nbsp;'''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:85%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">Paine&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''<small>&nbsp;&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;</small>&nbsp;<small>00:14, 3 June 2017 (UTC)</small>

== Source ==

*http://www.advocate.com/comedy/2017/6/03/randy-rainbow-sings-epic-musical-medley-covfefe ---[[User:Another Believer|<span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Another Believer|<span style="color:#C60">Talk</span>]])</sub> 00:25, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


== Use of "tweet" ==
== Use of "tweet" ==


"Tweet" should be replaced with "message". This is Wikipedia and not some Twitter fan page. Best regards, IP [[Special:Contributions/92.231.219.195|92.231.219.195]] ([[User talk:92.231.219.195|talk]]) 19:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
"Tweet" should be replaced with "message". This is Wikipedia and not some Twitter fan page. Best regards, IP 92.231.219.195 (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
: It's in the dictionary, so I don't see a problem with it. [[User:EvergreenFir|'''<span style="color:#8b00ff;">Eve</span><span style="color:#6528c2;">rgr</span><span style="color:#3f5184;">een</span><span style="color:#197947;">Fir</span>''']] [[User talk:EvergreenFir|(talk)]] 00:19, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

== We begin bombing in five minutes ==

Numerous sources compared this to: '''''[[We begin bombing in five minutes]]''''', by [[Ronald Reagan]]. See: {{Find sources AFD|We begin bombing in five minutes|Covfefe}}. [[User:Sagecandor|Sagecandor]] ([[User talk:Sagecandor|talk]]) 01:52, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

== Actual meaning of the word COVFEFE ==

Dianne Marshall, an amateur historian, bible scholar, and author went digging and found that it is actually an Antediluvian term. It means, “In the end we win.” According to Marshall, it was commonly used by the sons of Adam as they fought against the evil and fallen men.

The word is pronounced: Covfefe’ (pronounced “cuv – fee- fae”)

Marshall Report says:

The term gained popularity prior to the great deluge and was rarely used after the flood subsided. It regained favor around the time Nimrod was building his tower, after which it was entirely lost in translation at Babel.<ref>https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2017/05/31/cuvfefe-mystery-solved/</ref>

Barron Gonsalves posted to Facebook, and explained it well. He said:

“Now, here is what is going on. If you study the bible you see how God has made fools of His enemies throughout various accounts of biblical history! Our wisdom is no match for God’s and those who know Him tap into His wisdom. The tweet Donald Trump did was a trap for liberal media and they fell right in it. President Trump tweeted a biblical code to describe how the media was going to loose then he deleted it. By deleting it the tweet it looked like a mistake! Had he left it up eventually it would of been discovered what the word meant and the liberal media would of not been the victims of the trap. The appearance of an error is what the lure was. Now, that they have taken the bait and gone off on how this is a mistake and it shows he may be loosing it as the narrative was by some like CNN it will totally backfire on them. The truth of what the president said will come to the surface revealing two things. One the president is much more spiritually connected than many may have realized. Two, he is far more intellectually deeper than liberal media has tried to paint him to be. He tweeted that in the early morning. It is a very well known fact among many believes that God does indeed speak to His people in the early hours. The tweet again reads despite the dishonest press Covfefe. In other words God will win in the end. Part of God’s plan is to lure the liberal media in to expose how deceitful they are and show the American people their arrogance. This is one of many traps they have fallen into and will continue to do so. They are loosing credibility each time. To God be the glory Covfefe!” <ref><iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fbgonsal%2Fposts%2F1552443664791726&width=500" width="500" height="294" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true"></iframe></ref>
[[User:Dwgibson2000|Dwgibson2000]] ([[User talk:Dwgibson2000|talk]]) 16:02, 6 June 2017 (UTC)Dwgibson

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== Edit war about blanking ==

Can we not? The policy isn't 100% clear on this because it wasn't ''deleted'' per se. Might be better to let the IPs have their way on this one, then discuss the policy at [[Wikipedia talk:Deletion review]]. —[[User:Guanaco|Guan]][[User talk:Guanaco|aco]] 08:09, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


It's in the dictionary, so I don't see a problem with it. EvergreenFir (talk) 00:19, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
== Soft redirect ==


In the first archive, there is a discussion about the use of the word tweet. I agree with IP 92.231.219.195 that this is a proprietary use of the word and should not be used in an encyclopedia. Now according to the [[Twitter]] page, "posts [were] formerly "tweets". Should this decision be reconsidered ? [[User:JeremiahJohnson|JeremiahJohnson]] ([[User talk:JeremiahJohnson|talk]]) [[User:JeremiahJohnson|JeremiahJohnson]] ([[User talk:JeremiahJohnson|talk]]) 22:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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Can a soft redirect be added to this page until the deletion review matter is resolved? As of now, there is no clear way to get to [[Donald Trump on social media]] from here, and the AfD had closed to merge content there. [[User:Erik|Erik]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Erik|talk]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 20:38, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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::Thanks! [[User:Erik|Erik]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Erik|talk]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 20:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


:Simply put, no. Reliable sources at the time used the appropriate term "Tweet," so we reflect that. Perhaps a note could be added (with RS) to indicate this is the older, deprecated term... but honestly, people still call them tweets, regardless of what Elon Musk says.
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:Also, you may want to use some form of quote feature to make it clear you're quoting an older post, and that's not your own words. This was very confusing at first. — <b>[[User:HandThatFeeds|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:DarkBlue;cursor:help">The Hand That Feeds You</span>]]:<sup>[[User talk:HandThatFeeds|Bite]]</sup></b> 22:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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If the soft redirect could go directly to the merged section: [[Donald Trump on social media#"Covfefe"]] (yes the quote marks are in the section title for some reason), thanks. [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 21:28, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
:{{done}}—[[User:Cyberpower678|'''<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">CYBERPOWER</span>''']] <span style="font-family:Rockwell">([[User talk:Cyberpower678|<span style="color:red">Message</span>]])</span> 23:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

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Use of "tweet"

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"Tweet" should be replaced with "message". This is Wikipedia and not some Twitter fan page. Best regards, IP 92.231.219.195 (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

It's in the dictionary, so I don't see a problem with it. EvergreenFir (talk) 00:19, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

In the first archive, there is a discussion about the use of the word tweet. I agree with IP 92.231.219.195 that this is a proprietary use of the word and should not be used in an encyclopedia. Now according to the Twitter page, "posts [were] formerly "tweets". Should this decision be reconsidered ? JeremiahJohnson (talk) JeremiahJohnson (talk) 22:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simply put, no. Reliable sources at the time used the appropriate term "Tweet," so we reflect that. Perhaps a note could be added (with RS) to indicate this is the older, deprecated term... but honestly, people still call them tweets, regardless of what Elon Musk says.
Also, you may want to use some form of quote feature to make it clear you're quoting an older post, and that's not your own words. This was very confusing at first. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 22:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]