User talk:Jtdirl: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Inline

Revision as of 02:05, 19 October 2005

NPA

Once again I'd like to remind you of WP:NPA. "Asshole" isn't an appropriat way to describe any wikipedian, no matter what they've done. --fvw * 03:42, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to agree here. Personal enemies shouldn't let you make Wikipedia your personal battleground. If you need to fight Skyring (whom I've read but never met), do it elsewhere. Gwyndon 01:34, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't leave (as you have apparently done)

We need people like you here. Ones who are not afraid to speak their mind and get into battles with disruptive users over what they know is right. I ask you to reconsider. I believe we can continue making this great encyclopedia. Regards, Bratsche^{talk | Esperanza} 04:16, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Ditto. 青い(Aoi) 08:23, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Though I think posting personal details was inappropriate, I can understand your frustration. Sometimes its hard to think of Wikipedia as anything other than a death march, but hopefully (like me) you're too addicted to leave for good. the wub "?/!" 10:11, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Personally identifiable information

Listing a person's full name and home address is inappropriate, regardless of who it is (unless maybe you're talking about the President of the United States or Michael Jackson). I have stripped the offending revisions from this history of this page. As a result of this, a couple of User:Jtdirl's changes have been attributed to User:Dmcdevit, who in fact simply removed the personally identifiable information. This page should have been archived a long time ago; there were over 1600 revisions. - Mark 08:11, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no!

It is a sad day, Jtdirl. I very much hope this dosen't end up being an indefinite leave, and that you will return soon. Cordially & sincerely yours, El_C 14:20, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

However, Jtdirl should be stripped of admin position. Actually, it would be kindest if he himself renounces and gets desysopping. Arrigo 14:30, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

People seem to be saying that you've left -- I hope that's not true. But even if it is, I am confident you'll return. (I never did find out where you went last time.) Have a nice break, and make it a shorter one this time. Deb 16:21, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like he was fighting a stalker all night (his time) and finally decided that he didn't need this. The lack of support he got from fellow Admins seems hard to justify. ([1] and [2]) and he just didn't have the persistent of his obsessive opponent. Admittedly, he has pushed his luck on a few occasions but we all have a right to be defended from permanently blocked vandals. --Red King 17:12, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a relatively new user here, and I found his support and help trying to maintain NPOV across several articles to be both useful and inspirational. Dedication to a completely voluntary role can't be easy, and it seems that it was made even harder by his treatment by many users. I was glad for his help, though. Nearside 17:55, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen too many good people leave the project over worthless prats. Take some time off, rest, and we'll deal with that prick Skyring. Best regards, and hoping to see you back, Mackensen (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What is going on? is Jtdirl leaving because of Skyring??? I hope not --ClemMcGann 23:25, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever you do, please don't leave because of a troll. You'll have proper community support now, because people are finally starting to realize how serious this was. I'm sorry I didn't offer you more support — I can only plead ignorance of the extent of the harassment — but rest assured that you'll have my active support when you return. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 03:46, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I may have disagreed with your actions, but I still don't think you should leave because of Skyring. If for nothing else, I don't think you should give him - or any troll - the satisfaction. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 03:50, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So long, and thanks for all the fish, Jtdirl. Though I've never worked with you, your articles have been an inspiration to me as a Wikipedian and as an Irishman. Thanks for eveything. --Blackcap | talk 04:17, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Oh gosh! When did this all happen? I look away for a day and you've apparently left us. I sincerely hope this isn't so. I knew Skyring had been using sock puppets and attacking you on WikiEN-1, but I was unaware it had escalated to such a point. Seems we were right about him all along. However, perhaps it is best for you to take a break, a breath, and a moment to put things into perspective. Although we've not much interacted, I think you're aware of the respect I have for you. I have no doubt at all that Wikipedia is disadvantaged by your absence, and for that reason, I plead for your return. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:31, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear about this, I hope to see you back again sooner rather than later. Demiurge 08:51, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Illegitimi non carborundum, Jtdirl. ;-) Craigy File:Uk flag large.png (talk) 10:00, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Please don't leave. Don't give those who are valueless the satisfaction of negating a contributer of great value.--Scimitar ^parley 19:56, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sorry to see what has happened, Jtdirl, and I would welcome you back. Ann Heneghan ^(talk) 20:27, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It would be a shame for Jtdirl to leave. He is a great Wikiepdian editor. Astrotrain 22:17, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Even me, someone who has had disagreements with jtdirl, feels he should stay. He is a level-headed Irish user and he helped me out when I first joined.--Play Brian Moore 19:51, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please Come Back

I don't know why you left, or whether you have left permanently, or just for a period of time. If you were being stalked by sock-puppets of a banned user, are other admins aware of the problem? Please come back sometime. Robert McClenon 18:15, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I can't believe this, is it true? Please come back, you are a good user, you do great work, and your defence of Deb against Arrigo is admirable. File:Gryffindor.jpgGryffindor 08:47, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

RfA

Jt, Please support my request for adminship:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/GordonWattsDotCom

Thx.--GordonWattsDotCom 14:55, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

WOW

Where in the living crap did you get that image of O'Donovan Rossa from? That is amazing.. Brilliant man, well done!! --Irishpunktom\^talk 19:14, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

Hello! I have an admin nomination going on. I have contributed to several Pope articles in which you have also worked. I would be glad if you voted on it, be it for it, neutral or against it.<<Coburn_Pharr>> 19:54, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

vote here!

Final decision reached

The arbitration committee has reached a final decision in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/JarlaxleArtemis 2 case. →Raul654 17:20, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks people for the support

Thanks, folks, for all your kind comments, both here and by email. They were deeply appreciated. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 21:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Skyring

No problem - just good to see you back. Had my own sockpuppetting stalker in the past few weeks mind, maybe trolls don't like the surname... --Kiand 22:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

template

Where is the discussion? Your code was broken, I fixed it. As for the appearance, if you look at any page on which this appears, e.g. Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, you'll notice that every other infobox, image box and navigation box looks as I have styled it. Having one infobox in a totally arbitrary styling (no doubt agreed on by a few users in a small discussion somewhere because it looks "pretty") makes the pages look unprofessional. ed g2s • talk 00:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Abu Omar

You requested further information regarding the naming of Abu Qatada (sorry, Omar Abu Omar) :), which I provided at Talk:Omar Abu Omar. You may not be watching the article so I point it out here. Rd232 23:33, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 18: / Line 18: @@
 Listing a person's full name and home address is inappropriate, regardless of who it is (unless maybe you're talking about the President of the United States or Michael Jackson). I have stripped the offending revisions from this history of this page. As a result of this, a couple of [[User:Jtdirl]]'s changes have been attributed to [[User:Dmcdevit]], who in fact simply removed the personally identifiable information. This page should have been archived a long time ago; there were over 1600 revisions. - [[User:Mark|Mark]] 08:11, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
-== We need to talk ==
-Again, I'm glad to see you've returned to editing here overtly. Your research is good and your edits are generally a credit to Wikipedia, though perhaps the less said about stuff like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidential_Inauguration_%28Ireland%29&diff=15130915&oldid=15129495 this] the better!
-We need to talk about your recent behaviour. It's not just the blast of vile hatred directed at me, it's your behaviour as an admin that really bothers me. As an admin you shouldn't use your powers to take part in personal disputes, or to win edit wars. That's just plain wrong.
-In your [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2003-May/003335.html acceptance of sysop nomination] you talk of "highest standards of accuracy, inpartiality and correctness", "an absolute determination NOT in any way to personally abuse the responsibilities", and that these are responsibilities you "would take very seriously".
-You published my personal details here on 1 September, restored them twice over when others deleted them, locked your page in an attempt to stop them being removed again, and when another admin unlocked the page and removed them, you then attempted to justify your actions [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=22301040 here]. Regardless of how you feel about me, this sort of behaviour is never justified.
-You then logged out, created [[User:AULDBITCH_LOVES_YOU|this sockpuppet account]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mackensen&diff=prev&oldid=22363941 vandalised] another user's page, logged out again and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AULDBITCH_LOVES_YOU&action=history commented] on the sockpuppet's page, claiming that I had driven you off Wikipedia and was now attacking another user. Then, in case nobody noticed, you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=22370295 made the same allegations] on [[WP:ANI]]. In fact, there was no evidence at all to link me with your actions, as an examination of your accusations reveals.
-How do I know it was you? I can't check the IP addresses of the sockpuppet(s) you created. But if we look at the [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=83.71.15.181+ Dublin-based] anon's [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=83.71.15.181 edits], we can find a clear link with you through those edits of [[Talk:Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall]], looking at the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Camilla%2C_Duchess_of_Cornwall&action=history edits made within a few minutes of another] on 23 August.
-For confirmation, I asked David Gerard, who has access to the IPs. David looked up the IP address and uncovered your shenanigans. Perhaps he would like to publish his findings.
-But before we get to that stage, I'd like to ask you to make a clean breast of it, and explain exactly how you think you can continue to be an admin after this sort of atrocious behaviour. Your actions are far worse than anything I've done.
-It is clear to me, and to anyone who has followed your career, that although you value sysop power very highly, you put the responsibilities associated with it at a lower priority than your own vanity.
-For that reason, although I ask for an apology to me for all the injustices you have committed, I don't expect to receive one. Instead I expect to see more of your peculiar circular reasoning in the edit summaries as you repeatedly revert this message, and when you are finally moved to make some self-serving comment, it will be to express the vain hope that I will give up. You've spent several months expressing this hope that I will leave Wikipedia and quit pointing out your errors, and I wonder when the message will finally sink in that it's not going to happen.
-I enjoy contributing far too much to leave the project and apart from the usual sort of minor spelling corrections I do to amuse myself, I've made substantial contributions under other accounts, as I am quite sure that David Gerard would tell you, if he wasn't quite so discreet about revealing personal information.
-So I'm not going to leave, and I don't expect you to. We can make life difficult for each other, or we can find a solution, but we aren't going to make any progress without a bit of honesty on your part.
 == Oh no! ==
@@ Line 117: / Line 92: @@
 == Omar Abu Omar ==
 You requested further information regarding the naming of Abu Qatada (sorry, [[Omar Abu Omar]]) :), which I provided at [[Talk:Omar Abu Omar]]. You may not be watching the article so I point it out here. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] 23:33, 18 October 2005 (UTC)