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The unanimous verdict of the jury in the criminal trial for Ross was "not guilty."

The court record and numerous news reports such as the Phoenix New Times demonstrates this.

Anson Shupe and Kendrick Moxon are not reliable sources and should not be used per the policies of Wikipedia

Shupe source should not be used

Jayen466 (talk · contribs) used the Anson Shupe source to write that the criminal trial of Rick Ross (consultant) in the Jason Scott case resulted in a "hung jury" [1], [2]. This is a false statement. See this source (cited by Jayen466 himself for other info in the article and yet neglected in this instance) where it states: "On January 18, 1994, after just two hours of deliberations, a Greys Harbor jury acquitted Rick Ross of unlawful detainment." This is corroborated in other secondary sources as well:

Perkes, Kim Sue Lia (January 21, 1994). "Cult deprogrammer acquitted: Had been charged with unlawful imprisonment". The Arizona Republic. Nationally known cult deprogrammer Rick Ross of Phoenix has been acquitted of unlawful-imprisonment charges in Grays Harbor County Superior Court in Montesano, Washington. ... Ross also credited the eight-woman, four-man jury, which deliberated only two hours, for being able to see through the prosecution's attempts to paint him as a criminal. ... Jeff Ranes, Ross' attorney said several jury members hugged Ross after the verdict "and told him, 'We thought you did the right thing,' and, 'Keep up the good work.'

Again, Anson Shupe as a source is unreliable, and should not be used. Cirt (talk) 16:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 Anson Shupe and Kendrick Moxon are not reliable sources and should not be used per the policies of Wikipedia
+== Shupe source should not be used ==
+{{user|Jayen466}} used the [[Anson Shupe]] source to write that the criminal trial of [[Rick Ross (consultant)]] in the [[Jason Scott case]] resulted in a "hung jury" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rick_Ross_(consultant)&oldid=245779042#cite_note-26], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jason_Scott_case&oldid=245864846]. This is a false statement. See this source (cited by Jayen466 himself for other info in the article and yet neglected in this instance) where it states: [http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/content/printVersion/162339 "On January 18, 1994, after just two hours of deliberations, a Greys Harbor jury acquitted Rick Ross of unlawful detainment."] This is corroborated in other secondary sources as well:
+:*{{cite news   | last =Perkes   | first =Kim Sue Lia   | title =Cult deprogrammer acquitted: Had been charged with unlawful imprisonment   | work =The Arizona Republic  | date =January 21, 1994|quote=Nationally known cult deprogrammer Rick Ross of Phoenix has been acquitted of unlawful-imprisonment charges in Grays Harbor County Superior Court in Montesano, Washington. ... Ross also credited the eight-woman, four-man jury, which deliberated only two hours, for being able to see through the prosecution's attempts to paint him as a criminal. ... Jeff Ranes, Ross' attorney said several jury members hugged Ross after the verdict "and told him, 'We thought you did the right thing,' and, 'Keep up the good work.'}}
+Again, [[Anson Shupe]] as a source is unreliable, and should not be used. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 16:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)