Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toni Ann Gisondi: Difference between revisions

Toni Ann Gisondi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Former child actor whose major credit was in Annie. Only one other credit. Rest of article is trivia. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 04:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment There are a few more Annie actor bios by Seahamlass (talk · contribs) that are similar. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 04:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Response: I created this small article on Toni Ann Gisondi, as well as articles on some of the other Annie orphans from the film, because I believed there was a need for them. Their names are mentioned in several other Wiki articles - Annie (film), Annie soundtrack etc - but are always in red. Wikipedia is always looking for people to fill in these red 'gaps'and I was just trying to help. It may be 'trivia' to Delicious carbuncle, but as their names are already mentioned so many times on Wikipedia, I'll bet my bottom dollar there are a lot of people out there interested in the article/s. By the way, the article is fully referenced. --Seahamlass (talk) 07:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't being dismissive of the subject of the article, I meant "trivia" literally - Annie continuity gaffes, names of siblings, etc. Red links are often better turned into black text than articles. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 13:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong keep: I understand Delicious carbuncle's point, but don't agree with it. There are many, many actor/actress stubs and short articles on Wikipedia about people who have only made one or two film appearances, so I don't see why this one should be deleted. The girl who took the lead role in Annie, Aileen Quinn, didn't exactly go on to be famous after the movie either - but no-one is suggesting her article be deleted. --Seahamlass (talk) 17:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Andrea McArdle is IMO a good example of an Annie+ notability. Whereas many child performers have articles despite less-than-stellar adult careers, this could largely be because their precocious fame was then comparatively widely known. An obscure child player who then goes on to very little has a considerably more tenuous shot at notability. Plutonium27 (talk) 05:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: I agree with Andrea McArdle being a good example of an Annie 'notable,' although I don't think she is very well known in Britain - apart from die-hard Annie fans. The film of Annie, however, has made the child actors featured into on-going 'stars,' as the film is show on TV each year etc. Anyone Googling the film will come across numerous websites either detailing the film cast, or asking where they are now. The same with YouTube etc. I would argue that these young actresses are 'notable enough for Wikipedia' because, 27 years after the film was made, people are still talking about them.--Seahamlass (talk) 14:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I am British, have never seen a Annie film or stage show and yet still remember Andrea McArdle's name from the national newpapers 30 years later. Possibly selective memory maybe but I went straight to her article without having had cause to recall her since 1978.Plutonium27 (talk) 18:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep by me anyway, having put in my 50p's-worth. Plutonium27 (talk) 14:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I'm going to have to give this one a thumbs down. Onher own she just doesn't meet the notability criteria. Maybe there could be an article that compiles all the Annie Orphan actors?--Torchwood Who? (talk) 00:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Admin comment: Please keep the discussion about this article. Thanks. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - the Young Actors Award makes her meet notability in my mind. The tone of the article is a little unencyclopedic, but that can be cleaned up. matt91486 (talk) 07:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]