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*::I've rblocked the redirect's creator; the above comment was the final straw. See their talk page. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] ([[User talk:Graham87|talk]]) 15:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
*::I've rblocked the redirect's creator; the above comment was the final straw. See their talk page. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] ([[User talk:Graham87|talk]]) 15:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
*:::{{Ping|Graham87}} I don't see what is so objectionable about the comment as to warrant a block. Reading their user talk page doesn't make it any clearer. This redirect was created in good faith and some editors here even support keeping it. Clearly not block-worthy. --[[User:Un assiolo|Un assiolo]] ([[User talk:Un assiolo|talk]]) 12:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
*:::{{Ping|Graham87}} I don't see what is so objectionable about the comment as to warrant a block. Reading their user talk page doesn't make it any clearer. This redirect was created in good faith and some editors here even support keeping it. Clearly not block-worthy. --[[User:Un assiolo|Un assiolo]] ([[User talk:Un assiolo|talk]]) 12:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

*:::It's ... a vibe thing. We can't have editors "testing the waters" like that, particularly if they've just come off a block. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] ([[User talk:Graham87|talk]]) 14:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - This is utterly ridiculous, as nobody in the scholarly community would think to characterize Hitler under these auspices. He is famous for being Germany's dictator...period. Had he waited tables for money in his youth, would we categorize him as a "failed waiter"? This is just silly. --[[User:Obenritter|Obenritter]] ([[User talk:Obenritter|talk]]) 13:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - This is utterly ridiculous, as nobody in the scholarly community would think to characterize Hitler under these auspices. He is famous for being Germany's dictator...period. Had he waited tables for money in his youth, would we categorize him as a "failed waiter"? This is just silly. --[[User:Obenritter|Obenritter]] ([[User talk:Obenritter|talk]]) 13:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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Revision as of 14:52, 15 September 2024

September 11

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 11, 2024.

Flint County, San Andreas

Does not seem to appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia apart from disambiguation pages. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Las Venturas Airport

Target mentions airports (once) and Las Venturas, but not this specific redirect the reader would be looking for. No content anywhere else either, so I don't think this redirect is that helpful. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

B-Dup

Only content on this character on the English Wikipedia seems to be The_Game_(rapper)#Other_ventures, which provides no in-universe information. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lance Wilson

Not mentioned at target. Three unrelated people are mentioned at Withcott#History, I_Go_Back#Content, and 1990_Texas_Longhorns_football_team#Personnel (as well as some mentions of a Lance Wilson-White). 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - His name appears in the game's credits, which is enough proof that such a character is notable in its own way. Hansen Sebastian (Talk) 02:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RfD is not a place to discuss notability but to determine whether redirects are helpful, which is not the case when their target provides no information on their topic. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

B1 FC

Football (soccer) club, from Saint Lucia, redirected to Saint Lucia's footbal league. Delete to encourage creation. In the mean time I expect the search engine will find the current target or other related pages anyway. Nabla (talk) 23:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Sindacco

Not mentioned at target. Only mention on the English Wikipedia appears to be Casey_Siemaszko#Video_games, which does not provide any in-universe information. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Didier Sachs

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris

None of the content mentioning "Melvin Harris" on the English Wikipedia seems to be about this character. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep His name is mentioned in the game's credits. Hansen Sebastian (Talk) 01:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How does that help a reader find any content on it (or find out that we don't have what they are looking for), though? 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't it enough that the game mentions his name without having to read it? There's also the game's booklet. Hansen Sebastian (Talk) 02:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Without having to read what? If you think this merits a mention in the article, then go ahead, but in the current state a reader will be directed to an article where they won't find what they are looking for, which is information on the topic of their search term. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caligula's Casino

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pirates pants casino

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

T Bone Mendez

Not mentioned at target; appears at the T-Bone disambiguation page and is linked from Frost_(rapper)#Career, where the only information is that Frost was the voice actor for this character, but no in-universe content. Not sure if this warrants a retarget. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:21, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sherman Dam

Not mentioned at target. Listed at Hoover Dam in popular culture, though I'm pretty sure Sherman Dam (Nebraska) should be primary to this fictional location. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Las Payasadas

No content on this anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:10, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mt. Chiliad

Not mentioned at target; one passing mention of "Mount Chiliad" (of which the latter redirect appears to be a misspelling) at Grand Theft Auto Online#Plot. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Angel Pine

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Palomino Creek

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Easter Basin

No content on this on the English Wikipedia, only a passing mention at Climont. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Juniper Hollow

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hashburry

Not mentioned at target. Incomplete title of an EP by Zachg and a potential misspelling of Hashbury, but no content for the GTA meaning on the English Wikipedia apparently. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blueberry (Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas)

Does not seem to appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

El Marino (online newspaper)

Not mentioned at the target. The author (now both banned and vanished) seems to have had an issue with self-promotion around topics he was connected to around this town. 78.149.135.163 (talk) 22:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pichilemu News

Not mentioned at the target. The author (now both banned and vanished) seems to have had an issue with self-promotion around topics he was connected to around this town. 78.149.135.163 (talk) 22:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tierra Robada

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whetstone County, San Andreas

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brown Streak Railroad

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Area 69

No mention at target. Search results on the English Wikipedia appear to be unrelated and mostly incidental, though there is a band mentioned at Music_of_Paraguay#Rock (not sure whether it has due weight or not). 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Area 69 is meant to be a parody or satire of Area 51. Hansen Sebastian (Talk) 01:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apart from Rachel,_Nevada#In_popular_culture, we really have no content to provide a reader with about this parody. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TransFender

Does not appear anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interblag

Also not mentioned on the English Wikipedia as the ones below, but Wiktionary has wikt:interblag. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Auto Troll Shuffle

Not mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia; we don't need to list every xkcd comic released. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Little Bobby Tables Also

I'm unable to find any usage of this exact phrase through Google or Wikipedia, but there are some incidental places where "also" occurs soon after "little bobby tables". Only one (somewhat odd, maybe accidental) internal link from an old RFD and minimal page views that probably are people like me wondering "huh, how is this different from Little Bobby Tables" when seeing it in search results, so delete to prevent that occurrence. Skynxnex (talk) 21:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muholland Intersection

Does not seem to be mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hku

Unlikely capitalization of abbrevation Rusalkii (talk) 21:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: harmless and WP:CHEAP. People are lazy with acronyms sometimes; see the pageviews. Google searches show it to be unambiguous. Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 23:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Professional wrestling school

All three currently target glossary of professional wrestling terms, specifically for a section on the word "school" which no longer exists. Presumably this was removed because the concept of a wrestling school is entirely self-explanatory and doesn't need to be included, and that makes sense to me. But that means these redirects are without mention, and there's really no value in that. There are other uses of the words "wrestling school" about, but the term is too vague for any of those to be the primary target, and there probably aren't enough to justify converting to a dab. As far as I can see, the only option is to delete them. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 21:10, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blastin Fools Records

Does not seem to be mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Not mentioned anywhere on site as nominator mentioned, and unlikely to be mentioned anytime soon. If readers want to know anything about this fictional element, there are better places for that information to be found anyway. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 21:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Widespread permafrost zone

This so-called WPZ does not seem to be currently mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Black puma

Not mentioned at target, though unrelated uses of "Black Puma" (which is currently a red link) occur in Recurring Saturday Night Live characters and sketches introduced 2016–17, List of Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters characters , and List of black superheroes (unreferenced entry). In the worst case, I guess a disambiguation could provide a short explanation the relation to the current target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Black cougar

Neither the target article nor cougar currently mentions this. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Panther habitat

This could refer to any of the animals referred to by Panther. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keimu

Redirected at AfD, but the target does not mention this and the search results for this on the English Wikipedia appear to be unrelated. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reports of black cougars in the United States

Not mentioned at target. Only mention of something resembling this on the English Wikipedia that I could find is Piney_Woods#Folklore, but I'm not sure if this is the only thing a reader could be looking for (and that only applies to the USA redirects). 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great Fray

Shortened form of a literal translation of original Japanese name; very unlikely search term. ArcticSeeress (talk) 17:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bundling these two for convenience. Fieari (talk) 23:19, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adjule

"unconfirmed African canine" according to Wikidata (cryptozoology stuff...), not mentioned in target article Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Death Prophet

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 13:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

V̂

No description of the character or its usage at the target; delete to encourage article creation. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history of T̂?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 13:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorblade

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 13:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on retargeting to Dota: Dragon's Blood, where "Terrorblade" is mentioned 23 times?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cremastra (talk) 12:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soul metal

Term doesn't have anything to do with the article it links to FMSky (talk) 09:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of bards

Seems like an inaccurate redirect? Not all bards are oral repositories as defined by that article, nor does it seem likely to me that all oral repositories can be described as "bards". asilvering (talk) 09:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering I can see where you’re coming from, however this is part of a wider issue with the title. There’s no general term in common use to describe the roles of bards, griots, imusnawen etc. I had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find sources describing them generally as oral repositories. In some cases bard or troubadour is used as a definition for these terms, see here [1] [2] [3] [4]. The page could be moved to List of bards however I think that’d be inappropriate since you’d expect that list to contain a list of individuals who were historically bard, and the bard article does not take into account the broad usage of the term. I think a redirect makes the most sense, since people are very unlikely to Google list of oral repositories, but they might Google list of bards when looking for this, and also like you said there are roles here that are too specific to be termed bard. Kowal2701 (talk) 10:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the point of lots of those listed aren’t necessarily bards, if you were going to make a List of musicians, and found there was insufficient material or the divisions were hard to draw because some musicians play multiple instruments, you’d have List of cellists and List of pianists as redirects. For this reason I think List of oral poets should also be a redirect, and possibly List of oral historians Kowal2701 (talk) 13:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Preflight Planning Dispatch Checklist

Not mentioned at target, and no reliable sources that use the term. What I could find all looks like it came from here, almost all apparently because SEO bots picked up on the term as a keyword. Harmful because it promotes a term that is a best an extremely obscure related subject, at worst someone's invention. And there is no evidence for the former. Paradoctor (talk) 07:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Failed Austrian Painter

I mean... yes. But also... really? asilvering (talk) 05:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Who says he failed? His paintings sold, and he worked for a German army newspaper for awhile. Nothing else to redirect to, so off with it. Paradoctor (talk) 08:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)10:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as {{r from nickname}}. If it was good enough for Bush minor,[1] it's good enough for us. Paradoctor (talk) 10:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Just because it's possible to recognize someone from a vague description in context doesn't mean that phrase is synonymous with the person, or that people are likely to search for that phrase on Wikipedia. Not every possible phrase describing Hitler needs to be a redirect to him. P Aculeius (talk) 11:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not a commonly used nickname for him (in the quote referenced it was used as a descriptor rather than a nickname). There are doubtless many other Austrians who have failed art school (ditto for any other nationality). Also the user who created the redirect has an ... interesting ... history, including a block/unblock from yours truly per their talk page. Graham87 (talk) 11:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand that my redirect comes off as trivial and weird as he also known for worser things. Given my history, I'm not trying to go back to that phase. I'm simply testing the waters of which edits makes sense or not. I understand that this redirect contradicts what I said before. However, if this redirect gets deleted, I won't mind. Rager7 (talk) 14:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've rblocked the redirect's creator; the above comment was the final straw. See their talk page. Graham87 (talk) 15:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Graham87: I don't see what is so objectionable about the comment as to warrant a block. Reading their user talk page doesn't make it any clearer. This redirect was created in good faith and some editors here even support keeping it. Clearly not block-worthy. --Un assiolo (talk) 12:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's ... a vibe thing. We can't have editors "testing the waters" like that, particularly if they've just come off a block. Graham87 (talk) 14:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - This is utterly ridiculous, as nobody in the scholarly community would think to characterize Hitler under these auspices. He is famous for being Germany's dictator...period. Had he waited tables for money in his youth, would we categorize him as a "failed waiter"? This is just silly. --Obenritter (talk) 13:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Olbermann, Keith (2006-09-25). "'Have you no sense of decency, sir?'". In the 1920's a failed Austrian painter published a book in which he explained his intention to build an Aryan super-state in Germany and take revenge on Europe and eradicate the Jews," President Bush said today, "the world ignored Hitler's words, and paid a terrible price.

God of the New Testament

When the God of the Old Testament (also a recently created redirect) is contrasted with the God of the New Testament, this is not generally the sentiment being expressed. Certainly not attempting to start a trinitarian debate though -- ha. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 05:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The New Testament God is Greek and doesn't equate with the Hebrew Yahweh. Trinity is at odds with the Old Testament. Jesus is a better re-direct that the "Trinity."--Arbeiten8 (talk) 08:22, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change target to Names and titles of God in the New Testament. Definitely not "keep", as either the Trinity or God the Father are more obvious synonyms than Jesus. Fram (talk) 08:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget, either as suggested by Fram (though that article is solely about naming) or to God in Christianity. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget as suggested by Fram. At best the phrase is ambiguous, and "Jesus" is not usually described as "God" in the New Testament, but treated as a separate entity. P Aculeius (talk) 11:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I actually don't think we have a good target here. The nominator is correct that Jesus is not really an appropriate target. I don't think the target suggested by Fram is that helpful, as searchers would probably not be looking for information on the name of God IMO. My preference would be for a red link, because having an article about the concept of God in the New Testament specifically seems like a plausible article topic. (Rosbif73's suggestion of God in Christianity is a better target than the other two articles but still not my first preference). - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is also New Testament theology. Surprisingly, we don't seem to have a lot of content on the topic of this redirect anywhere. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I considered that as a target as well, but that article is more about academic studies than discussing the theology per se. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Let's take a step back a moment and consider the context of these two phrases. In modern English discourse, when someone says "God of the Old Testament" they, rightly or wrongly, are referring to the concept of an angry vengeful god that actively destroys the wicked, or just anyone insufficiently respectful. When someone says "God of the New Testament", they, rightly or wrongly, are referring to a "peace and love", "hippie" style pacifist, non-interventionalist, forgiving god. Again, I'm not talking theology right now (if I was, I would vehemently disagree with both of the previous statements) I'm simply talking about what these phrases mean in the English language. Given that this is what the phrases mean, I think both links should go to an article that discusses these specific aspects or perceptions of god... I'm sure we have some, or should have some, given how extensively these topics have been discussed and written on by all manner of scholars. There may be more than one good target, in which case a disambiguation page might be appropriate. I think I would object to simply targeting Jesus or God in Christianity, as these don't really cover the plain meanings of how the phrases are used in English. I don't think we should delete, because this is a VERY plausible search term, and we DO have information on it... the problem is just pointing the user to the correct spots they are looking for. I don't have specific suggestions for where to go though, as... quite frankly, there's a lot. But the status quo doesn't seem right. Fieari (talk) 04:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peyton Parrish

RD#10 - basically no information at target, could plausibly be an article asilvering (talk) 05:27, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Harkness (California)

These don't appear to be related; they're just nearby each other. asilvering (talk) 05:19, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Goat Peak (Oregon)

I'm not sure this redirect will make sense to anyone who was hoping to find an article on "Goat Peak". The only mention of it is buried in a dense paragraph: The Mount Jefferson vicinity contains at least 40 of the 190 documented lava domes in the Oregon Cascades, including the 7,159-foot (2,182 m) tall Goat's Peak dome. asilvering (talk) 05:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

27712 Pacific Coast Highway

Term is not found in the target article. TarnishedPathtalk 02:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

F-duction

Not mentioned at target. Appears in the Index of genetics articles (despite being a redirect, though the page also contains a bunch of redlinks), and is mentioned in the article about Edward A. Adelberg, who apparently discovered this. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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