User talk:Azuresky Voight: Difference between revisions

Hi, as you can see at the infobox's documentation, subsequent_actions isn't supposed to be used for decisions/rulings. Just letting you know. pandakekok9 (talk) 09:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Azuresky Voight. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Dennis Jose Borbon, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. JBchrch talk 10:54, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

the page is not considered an "attack page" because it is not "unsourced". Azuresky Voight (talk) 11:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced content is just one example. JBchrch talk 11:26, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's an article about a criminal whose acts has been documented in reliable sources. It is not an attack page. Azuresky Voight (talk) 11:30, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. JBchrch talk 11:24, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Articles about criminals should be deleted for being "disparaging"? Azuresky Voight (talk) 11:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A page you created has been deleted as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 11:35, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care if you have sources. It was not in a neutral tone, it was in an extremely hostile tone. You clearly are not able to write about this subject in a neutral tone so leave it to other editors to cover the topic. Repetition of this sort of use of Wikipedia will result in a block. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 11:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

By all means please rewrite the article in a "more neutral" tone, since it is not unsourced. And the "hostile" notion is a bit of an exaggeration. It is only appearing disparaging because the news articles that tackled the subject has not stated anything good about the subject. So how will you write an article about a criminal in a "more neutral tone"? Please demonstrate by rewriting the article. Azuresky Voight (talk) 11:43, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am acting in an administrative capacity here and will not get involved in the content. I just noticed that you created the page a second time after it was deleted as an attack page already. If I had noticed that before I had warned you then you would be blocked right now. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 11:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Considered reliable sources frequently cited on wikipedia articles such as PhilStar, Daily Inquirer, Gma News, Abs-Cbn news, Rappler, etc. have all written articles regarding the subject (Dennis Jose Borbon) and his crimes so those articles can be compiled to a wikipedia article. Azuresky Voight (talk) 11:45, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Again it is not an attack page because it is an article about a criminal whose acts have been documented by news outlets that are frequently cited by wikipedia. Azuresky Voight (talk) 11:47, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We take our biographies of living people policy very seriously and violating it is a very fast way to leave to project. If you want to work in the area you had better study it because you have already made 2 serious violations of it. A 3rd will result in a block. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 11:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the subject is already dead since March 2021 according to his former lawyer's tweet: https://twitter.com/yesyesyo13/status/1376315991257358343 so it is not a living person biography. Azuresky Voight (talk) 12:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The same policy applies to recently deceased people. You really should actually read the policy. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 12:02, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The policy about recently deceased is for unsourced/poorly-sourced materials. The article I wrote cited reliable sources such as news articles from the main news outlets in the Philippines (gma news, abscbn news, manila times, daily inquirer, philstar, rappler, etc.) all writing about the subject and telling the same thing altogether. How was that "poorly-sourced" or unsourced? Azuresky Voight (talk) 12:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted under this part of the policy that you clearly still have not read: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Summary deletion, creation prevention, and courtesy blanking. All of the sources in the world does not remove the requirement that it be neutral in tone. I am finished explaining this to you, I have given you a link to the policy and you are being held to that standard if you edit any article about a living or recently deceased person. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 12:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Template:Z33

HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 12:23, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]