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The Royal Armories recently put out a youtube video clarifying the nomenclature of the Colt AR-15 making the point that Fully automatic select fire rifles were sold by colt as Colt model AR-15 to the UK among other customers, in 1959, for instance, years before the M-16 designation would exist. And so it is incorrect to say that the Colt AR-15 was exclusively a semi-automatic and not a select fire fully automatic rifle. The article should be corrected to reflect this. Not to mention, given that the M-16 was developed from the Armalight AR-15 which became the Colt AR-15 it's kind of ridiculous to have ever tried to make the argument, you could have tried to make the argument that the m-16 was developed from the armalight ar-15 and then with the colt acquisition they diverged if history had been a little more cooperative, and I suppose, a little more convenient, but it's kind of like saying that the cucv trucks based like, the dodge w200 trying to say that the cucv came first rather than the dodge w200 which came first, obviously. Sadly history is a little more messy, a little less tidy, a little more complicated than the easy colt ar-15 one thing, colt m-16 a different thing. Even with the understanding that the colt designation of the m-16 was always AR-15... You can't put the cart before the horse saying the m-16 came first.Fanccr (talk) 17:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is it correct to describe all versions of the colt ar-15 as lightweight? Fanccr (talk) 08:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

do RS? Slatersteven (talk) 10:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course not. Also doesn't demarco manufacture some of the rifles? Have any under the AR-15 line been made by demarco?Fanccr (talk) 08:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THis is about the colt rifle, not derivatives. Slatersteven (talk) 08:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Colt Canada - Diemarco makes a licensed copy of the Colt rifles, some of which, particularly since Colt acquired Diemarco have been sold by Colt itself under Colt branding, as well as Diemarco and Colt Canada branding. Do we have reliable sources saying that every Colt AR-15 has been manufactured by Colt itself rather than Diemarco or Colt Canada? I may not have entirely understood your point if this response does not address it. Are you suggesting the intro should be to say the Colt AR-15 is based on the lightweight Armalite AR-15 manufactured by Colt?Fanccr (talk) 10:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first commercial/civilian colt ar-15s which this article is ostensibly about were the "sporter sp-1", which, being a sporting rifle, were sold with a 5 round magazine by colt. At the time, and even in many cases to this day for sporting rifles that is a standard magazine size, while of course, the first military contract colt AR-15s, being designed for military applications, were sold with 20 round magazines. The magazine section in the article seems to push a biased narrative, ignoring the history of the actual product line. 30 round magazines did get adopted by the military first and then the civilian market adopted them, particularly after the sunset of the awb, during which time, of course in the united states market, there were magazine limits iirc. The section as it is makes even less sense understanding that the original pinned 5 rd magazines were, presumably the same length as a 20 round standard capacity military magazine. Not to mention it would be more interesting to include information about the chronic unreliability of the 30 round magazine curved, the different follower designs used over time to address reliability problems and so on. As it is now the section is unsourced and seems to be biased and include original research. Fanccr (talk) 04:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliabel source for all of this? - Adolphus79 (talk) 15:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]