Talk:Caddy
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Buidhe in topic Requested move 19 January 2021
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editWhere's the encyclopedic info to send users to, for a Dab entry on this title?
- * Caddy, County Antrim, a townland in County Antrim, Northern Ireland
But lacking that, any of thousands of true sentences built around that, whose verb is other than to be, would serve as the basis for creating a stub with that title.
--Jerzy•t 03:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Caddy doesn't really deserve a stub, although it had a school of its own in 1908, it is only 3 miles from Randalstown. It has a community hall and Facebook page. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:06, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Move log
edit13:36, 12 August 2011 Muchness (talk | contribs) moved page Caddy (Sports) to Caddy over redirect (Restore primary topic per Talk:Caddy_(Sports)#Requested_move.) 20:44, 28 July 2011 JaGa (talk | contribs) moved page Caddy (Sports) to Caddy without leaving a redirect (restore after undiscussed controversial move) (revert)
Requested move 19 January 2021
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Judging based on the strength of arguments presented, there is a weak consensus to move the dab to Caddy. Recommend running a dab test to ascertain what exactly users are looking for when they search for "Caddy". (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 22:58, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Caddy (disambiguation) → Caddy – Assistent to a golf player is at Caddie. The disambiguation page should be at Caddy. Several people in the move discussion when the Caddie page was moved from Caddy to Caddie expressed the same. Tholme (talk) 15:57, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:46, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: No actual rationale was provided. We disambiguation topics, not titles. This is a commonly used spelling for someone who assists a golf player. Why should this move be performed? Merely because someone previously suggested it? — BarrelProof (talk) 17:30, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose, "caddy" is the common alternate name for "caddie", and was the name of that page before the move. The first six words at that page are "In golf, a caddie (or caddy)..." This is another RM at a disamb. page when it maybe should be at the main page to be changed, which would be Caddie (where there is no notice of this move). Randy Kryn (talk) 20:08, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Personally I'd always spell it "caddie", but before we change it we'd need some ideas as to what people typing "caddy" are looking for. Per https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caddy it seems that caddy is an alternative spelling for caddie, but also a small box/tray. Nigej (talk) 21:04, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Per https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=1&range=latest-90&pages=Caddie%7CCaddy_(disambiguation) Caddie gets 30 times more hits than Caddy (disambiguation) Nigej (talk) 21:13, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: See here for more relevant usage statistics. When someone go to Caddy they are probably more likely to mean Volkswagen Caddy, Caddy (web server) or Caddy (hardware) as most looking for Caddie would probably just type that. It does not seem like the golf Caddie is the clear primary topic for Caddy. This disambig page also links to Caddie right at the top of the page. Tholme (talk) 23:35, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Doesn't the fact that the disambig page numbers are so small, tell us that people are not getting to eg Volkswagen Caddy, Caddy (web server) or Caddy (hardware) through the disambig page? BTW both Golf caddy and Golf caddies (which are redirects to Caddie) get a lot of hits, ~150 a day. Nigej (talk) 08:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Caddie" and "caddy" seem to be alternate spellings, as evidenced by the unified disambig page and the first sentence of the caddie article. Rreagan007 (talk) 05:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Is caddie the primary topic for the term caddy? https://pageviews.toolforge.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caddy_(disambiguation) shows that several relevant meanings are similarly often or more often viewed than caddie, and one of those titles indeed has the word "Caddy" in it (the car). https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22caddy%22 in the first three pages shows me less than half of the results referencing golf, and the rest actually mostly goes to given names and surnames "Caddy". This does not inspire a whole lot of confidence that the status quo claim of primary topic is valid. I suggest we move it. Indeed I'd support doing a measurement trick - make the link from the new caddy disambiguation page to caddie involve a redirect, and then revisit the view statistics of that redirect later to see if it's become the most visited one. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose. The principal use of "caddy" is an alternative to "caddie" (see The dictionary definition of caddy at Wiktionary). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:22, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.