Talk:Blue Whale Challenge

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Is this game real?

There are several people who have survived too. All are not lying. The India government has blocked many of the links to the game. The government is not lying. There is enough evidence. Now even Indian police accepts this. The game is obviously real. There's no doubt about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:205:A06C:8FE8:8511:FB9D:4E11:A60C (talk) 23:35, 14 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

There is no credible information regarding the modus operandi of the alleged deaths due to this game in its current alleged form. Only two deaths are confirmed to be caused by Philipp Budeikin who was targetting poeple on VK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rishwajeet (talkcontribs) 16:26, 14 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

I've a proof that this game exists. See my answer on Quora: https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-actually-start-playing-the-Blue-Whale-game/answer/Anupam-Kumar-346

There are several credible sources, several eyewitnesses, several experts who are stopping this game...

Just because you or your family members or your friends aren't affected by this, it doesn't mean you will not understand the pain of those who have lost their dear ones due to this game... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:C208:C250:8511:FB9D:4E11:A60C (talk) 13:05, 14 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Please sign your comments! Your citations are poor and I do not believe for one second that the game exists in the form outlined on this page. There are no convincing citations contained on the page. Most come from tabloids that are using it as clickbait. The mainstream credible news media are not reporting on this game, save to say that it appears to be a hoax. If people have survived the game where are their stories? I have seen nothing but lazy reporting by news media on this topic, no conclusions to investigations reported, no mentions of coroner's findings. Only mentions from investigators saying that they are investigating... And, emotional pleas (much like the comments on this talk page) from politicians to ban the game. If you have a credible source please cite it and convince me. 8==8 Boneso (talk) 04:19, 15 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Yes Sourov malik (talk) 08:26, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Urban Legend???

Why does it say it is urban legend, when it is real??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.193.173.17 (talk) 17:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

There's reporting from serious news outlets, that the Blue Whale game is not a urban legend. And the suspected administrators of the game, have confessed http://nypost.com/2017/06/12/police-nab-sick-mess-of-a-human-behind-the-blue-whale-suicide-game/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by GentlemanAndScholar3000 (talkcontribs) 11:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Its all fault of Galina Mursalieva, who was tricked by teenagers into thinking that this is real thing. Then she made up article without real proofs, caused panic in society, gave this thing popularity among naive teens, was dismissed. She is a very very bad journalist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.135.81.151 (talk) 08:26, 6 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Oh, not she was dismissed, but editor who ordered to her make up all this stuff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YoumuWarm (talkcontribs) 09:09, 6 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Result of a Hoax: http://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/zapp/Hoax-Medienhype-mit-Suizid-im-Netz,bluewhale100.html --Soenke Rahn (talk) 23:50, 7 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hoax. http://www.snopes.com/blue-whale-game-suicides-russia/ Gerntrash (talk) 17:27, 11 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Philipp Budeikin sentenced

Well, Philipp Budeikin was just sentenced to jail so someone obviously thinks it's real:

"Founder of Online 'Blue Whale' Suicide Group Sentenced". Moscow Times. Retrieved 20 July 2017.

HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 15:07, 20 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Phil the linked article states that Budekin pleaded guilty to inciting 15 deaths, but investigators only linked him to 2 deaths. He was only found guilty of inciting 2 deaths. I smell a rat. 8==8 Boneso (talk) 23:21, 4 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

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https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-actually-start-playing-the-Blue-Whale-game/answer/Anupam-Kumar-346 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:C208:C250:8511:FB9D:4E11:A60C (talk) 13:08, 14 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

'Chicken' ?

Sounds like a Internet Version of a thrill game played by slum kids in England. They dare each other to run as close as possible to oncoming locomotives on railroad tracks, and cars on highways. 'Chicken' has been around for decades and killed at least a dozen kids in that time. Johnwrd (talk) 20:26, 10 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Chicken Teja joy (talk) 08:28, 9 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

poopydoop — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.200.226.111 (talk) 00:41, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

New Reported Case in India

A 16-year-old boy, Manoj in Kerala (India) is reported to have committed suicide on July 26 after playing the online bluewhale game.Hailing from Thiruvananthapuram, Manoj ended his life after allegedly completing the tasks of this deadly game. Recalling the ordeal, Anu, the mother of the deceased, told the news channel the boy had committed suicide after deleting all the games from his mobile phone. Acknowledging that her son had informed her about playing the fatal game, Anu said she had persuaded Manoj to refrain from playing it, but to no avail. She also said he had downloaded the game nine months ago and that he told her not to worry if he dies soon. His mother also revealed that he used to visit cemeteries during the night and go to the beach alone. One of the tasks assigned to the players involved watching the horror videos sent to them by promoters of the game, it is believed. Manoj had also drawn on his wrist with a compass, his mother said, adding that he had offered to donate his organs after his death.

source:www./amp/indianexpress.com/article/india/blue-whale-challenge-kerala-boy-committed-suicide-after-playing-fatal-game-claims-grieving- mother-4797981/lite/ www.thenewsminute.com/article/first-blue-whale-challenge-victim-kerala-parents-say-teen-killed-self-after-playing-66834 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subhankar raj (talkcontribs) 02:26, August 11, 2017 (UTC)

  Partly done: I didn't include the names of the boy and his mother as we don't particularly like to identify individuals unless they have a known Wikipedia article. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 19:16, 15 August 2017 (UTC)--Reply

On 5 September 2017, A 17-year-old who had carved a "Blue Whale" into her arm was rescued after she jumped off a cliff into a lake in Jodhpur, Rajashthan, India around midnight yesterday. "If I don't complete my task my mother will die," she told the policemen who dragged her out of the water.

source: http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/blue-whale-challenge-17-year-old-jumped-into-lake-in-jodhpur-had-blue-whale-carved-into-arm-1746101

How Parents Should Protect Child From Blue Whale Dare Game & all Indias Reported Case — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aqibiqbal (talkcontribs) 18:47, 11 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Other coutries Wikipedia pages?

Just thought it's worth to mention that the Blue Whale italian Wikipedia page was deleted on May 28, 2017. The motivations for deletion were about Blue Whale being only a clickbait or hoax. As the Italy section of this page cites Blue Whale press coverage in Italy, I'd like it to mention the Wikipedia page deletion too. While Wikipedia is not "press", it is widely used in Italy, the deletion procedure attracted comments from many Wikipedia users and I think it deserves citation. Lucrus (talk) 07:14, 19 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Lucrus:I believe the reason you mentioned for deletion of the Italian WP is correct. There is no evidence that the game exists. If you can find a reference to that deletion you should mention it. 8==8 Boneso (talk) 05:52, 9 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Boneso: Here is the talk that led to the deletion. I can't mention it myself in this page because it is protected and I lack the permissions to do so/I don't know how to do so. Please anyone with the required rights/skills add the mention, thanks. Lucrus (talk) 07:56, 9 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Lucrus:Done. This page needs some serous attention. 8==8 Boneso (talk) 08:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
The reference was removed, as it cited the Italian Wikipedia as a source. Needs more press coverage.--Auric talk 15:35, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
I half expected the revert. You'l get no argument from me 8==8 Boneso (talk) 20:14, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

WE MUST KEEP WEAK MINDS!

Everyone... we must keep the weak minded people! Some of them become geniuses at the end! We must stop this game! It keeps killing people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arepticous (talkcontribs) 11:50, 11 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2017

––А 39.50.80.222 (talk) 15:47, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:50, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Refbombing

This article is frequently poorly sourced and over-cited as per: WP:CITEKILL and WP:BOMBARD possibly to mask some poor sourcing or to fill in for missing reliable sources. I invite editors to help remove duplicated, poorly sourced information and citations because as it stands this article isn't reliable or encyclopaedic. Thanks. Mramoeba (talk) 15:43, 13 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

So the worst refbombing has now been removed. There is no need to cite every non notable media report that mentions the words Blue Whale, before adding any citations think whether it has anything new or factual to add, or whether it is tabloid hysteria. It is also against policy to WP:OVERCITE in order to attempt to lend weight to the few words you are adding.
This article is still desperately in need of proper encyclopedic balance. The page is still flooded with tangential mentions and unconfirmed cases hyped by clickbait media, although the worst is now removed. The page could really use some WP:RS actual reliable sources from quality media. It speaks volumes that what is clearly missing from Blue Whale is notable journalists discussing whether or not it a) exists and b) is a significant contributor to the deaths and mental health of the kids caught up in the phenomenon. Mramoeba (talk) 12:52, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

This is not a video game

Please refrain from inserting video game infobox. There is little evidence to suggest that this is a game that exists.8==8 Boneso (talk) 20:12, 17 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2017

How to protect child from blue whale game Aqibiqbal (talk) 22:23, 17 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. SparklingPessimist Scream at me! 22:32, 17 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2017

ATTACK OF BLUE WHALE IN PAKISTAN The infamous Blue Whale game that has been driving people towards self-harm and suicide worldwide, is now gaining notoriety in Pakistan.

Recently two more people from Peshawar started playing the game. Fortunately, they were stopped as the game objectives became worse.

Dr. Imran Khan from Peshawar’s Khyber Teaching Hospital (KTH) was contacted by two men from Mardan that played the game. The two men, aged 19 and 21 years old respectively, got in touch with the doctor as they suffered from depression after playing the Blue Whale game.

The two men started playing the game a few days ago. However, as the challenges got progressively weird and bizarre they stopped midway and sought medical attention.

Dr. Imran didn’t reveal their names in order to safeguard his patients’ privacy. However he shared that one of the patients was an IT expert who was trying to ascertain whether the game was actually life threatening or not. About The Blue Whale Challenge Blue Whale Challenge game surfaced after reports of more than 130 teenagers in Russia who were being asked to commit suicide. Blue whales knowingly commit suicide by beaching themselves, which led the game’s creators calling it the Blue Whale challenge.

The participants are told to complete a series of tasks over the course of 50 days by closed social media groups or game curators. In the beginning, the challenges are simple and easy to finish, like being asked to not talk to anyone for a day or to go outside at 3 am. As mentioned earlier the tasks get increasingly bizarre, telling players to self harm (carve a whale into their arm for example) or worse.

On the 50th day they’re asked to commit suicide.

Mentally Trapped Dr. Imran says that most people that start playing the game have a history of mental illnesses. He adds,

People start suffering from depression because game moderators warn the players that if they don’t complete the assigned tasks, their families would be harmed,

People are often afraid that the moderators have access to their cell phone data and can use it for illegal purposes.

Another case of a Blue Whale victim was also reported at the KTH where a 16 year old girl got to the last challenge but stopped. Dr. Azaz Jamal from KTH’s psychiatric ward says that she was a regular computer user and a techie.

She was warned by the moderator that if she didn’t kill herself, she would be killed instead.

Avoid Suspicious Links and Social Groups The doctors have advised that you should avoid starting the challenge just for fun and not follow any suspicious links on shady websites. He also asked the parents to keep an eye on their children especially if they spend a lot of time on computers on mobile phones.

According to an IT expert, the game is available for download on Apple and Google App stores. Links to the game are being shared on WhatsApp groups, which makes it progressively harder to block the game. If you click on them the game is downloaded on your phone and the game admins hack into your smartphone through it. As of now, there are no reported cases of teenage suicides or such behavior in children transpiring as a result of this game, but with it’s growing cases in the neighboring country, one can be quick to assume that it will infiltrate within Pakistan as well. As the Blue whale game was going to be launched in Pakistan it was banned at first but somehow the game found its way to step in... But 5 people who were caught in the cage of Blue Whale game were saved before they suicide. The main reason for this is that in Pakistan Kids live with their families even after marriages where they follow their rule of Islam in which they are saved from every harm. In Pakistan Parents or any elder of the family keep strict check on their and are fully aware of what their family members are doing, Because in Islam Parents are like King And Queen who thinks for the betterment of their people. Kids are totally under the bright shadow of guidance of Islam which they and their family follow. Madeeha Qamar (talk) 17:28, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:46, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
This case is already covered in the article. See section Pakistan, citation included. Mramoeba (talk) 23:03, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply