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"Robespierre's role as a leader and mouthpiece of the Terror is clear"
Hi there. I've added a citation tag here. I'm currently going through William Doyle's "Oxford History of the French Revolution" and it seems to me that Robespierre's role in the Terror was not so prominent. As soon as I find a bit of time I'll try to propose some alternative paragraph or sentence. Cheers ;) Dr Benway (talk) 11:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- The charismatic guy is always the guy behind the desk which orders the pulling of the trigger. The devil is in the context. Tcaudilllg (talk) 09:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm with the original poster here. Robespierre was not, contrary to popular belief, a charismatic guy, nor was he by any stretch of the imagination the craziest member of the Committee of Public Safety. He actually brought very few laws before the Convention. I'm a little baffled about why he's become the most infamous of the bunch.Ebolamunkee (talk) 06:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
le bébé souriant de miracle
- ***In the depictions of many artists, especially in urban France, Robespierre is known for his gentle smile. This has led some to refer to him as "le bébé souriant de miracle" (the smiling miracle baby).***
What is the source for the above? Who are the ***some*** who refer to him as "le bébé souriant de miracle"? Frania W. (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- I think you can safely remove such a dubious and uncited claim. --Saddhiyama (talk) 18:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Done. Frania W. (talk) 21:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Typing error: Marc Guillaume Valdiergave --> Marc Guillaume Vadier
I think there's a typing error short before citation 13. The man giving a mocking impression of Robespierre on 9th Thermidor was Marc Guillaume (Alexis) Vadier, president of the Committee of General Security.
193.254.155.48 (talk) 13:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)Jörg Kahl
Last Words
I've read (I think in RR Palmer's "The Twelve Who Ruled") that the story of Robespierre's last words being "merci, monsieur" is probably apocryphal. I'll have to check his reference, but the article presents this as pure truth when I think it's disputed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.225.209 (talk) 08:08, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Legacy
Perhaps it’s just me, but the ‘Legacy’ section of this article seems to say nothing – it consist mainly of two lengthy quotes; and at that, two quotes that seem to strongly sympathize with Robespierre. I think it would be much more useful if we were given a sampling of some of the more negative perspectives on Robespierre alongside the positive: If his legacy is indeed controversial, as is claimed, there should be the multiple views of the man contrasted in this section instead of two quotes, both in need of truncation, that say the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.192.47 (talk) 09:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it's just the legacy section-- the over-use of adjectives in the opening paragraphs: 'one of the most influential', 'best-known', and the ordering of his 'supporters' prioritized over his 'adversaries'. The edited portion above that read "le bébé souriant de miracle" is another. It seems like this entire page was sketched from the view-point of someone(s?) who romanticizes Maximilien Robespierre the revolutionary and minimizes Maximilien Robespierre the murderous dictator; one need only read the 'Reign of Terror' section where it starts with a quote as if the piece was written for apologetic purposes. It's quite embarrassing.