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Stub
Is this article a stub? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.54.155.48 (talk • contribs) 15:24, April 9, 2005 (UTC)
In Pace Requisat
May he rest in peace. Firestorm 16:52, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
He was a great actor who overcame many difficulties in life. We will miss him. Chicagoblue 20:50, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
RIP... Angrynight 01:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
A Great man who will be remembered as one of the greatest actors of 20th Century. Louis 1:54 March 10 2006 (San Antonio Texas)
I didnt even know he died......I feel really sad, I loved all his roles. He was a great actor
- Indeed! Peace, my friend! You gave and still give me many happy moments with your art! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.19.132.70 (talk) 23:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC).
Name (in kanji)
anybody know the kanji for his name? 68.94.26.31 17:57, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Morita is probably "森田", though it could also be 護田, 盛田, or 守田. There are multiple ways of writing Noriyuki in kanji too. You'd have to find out from a family member to find out which one it was, as I have never seen his name written in Japanese in anything other than katakana. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.122.43.20 (talk • contribs) 16:56, November 27, 2005 (UTC)
By now someone (apparently User:User6854 in this edit) has added the kanji of his name. This person has provided no source for the choice of characters, which as the above anonymous contributor noted, is not something that can be easily determined by the sound of the name alone. Furthermore, as Pat Morita was an American citizen who grew up in the US and (to my knowledge) did not even speak Japanese, one has to wonder why kanji are even desirable here. Was he so typecast while he was alive that his fans don't even realize that he was just a typical Californian, and not a FOB martial arts master? Anyway, I'm going to add a citation needed note to the name, and if no one can come up with a source, I'm going to delete it. If we're going to have his name in Kanji, the least we can do is get it right. 70.132.14.22 20:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Incidentally, before someone brings it up: I am aware that the kanji listed on the Japanese Wikipedia are the same as on ours. They were, however, added much later (here's the revision) by an anonymous user with an American (Californian, in fact) IP. Cheers... 70.132.14.22 20:09, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Removed (before adding back, read this)
I have removed the kanji in question. I don't think having them was really appropriate, anyway, because Pat Morita was not Japanese, but I'm sure one of the many Japanophiles on WP will come and want to add them back sooner or later. If you do, I won't fight it, however, please, out of respect for the man, make sure they are the correct kanji. In particular, this means:
- The choice of kanji must be referenced, and by a reliable source, preferably one close to Mr. Morita. Calling up and asking his family would be most authoritative, but would violate WP:OR, so don't do that unless it's to verify an existing source.
- The Japanese WP is not a source. As I stated earlier, the kanji added there were added by a North American IP long after they were added to our article, so it's extremely likely that they were just copied over. Do not make the mistake of considering them authoritative -- Pat Morita was not Japanese and the average Japanese person would not know how to write his name in kanji and would have no sense of what the correct "spelling" is. Most Japanese sources write his name in katakana, as they would the name of any foreigner.
- Remember that Japanese names are non-trivial, even for Japanese people. Just because you've taken a few years of Japanese in school and watched a lot of anime does not make you an expert on Japanese naming conventions -- I don't want to sound condescending here, but WP is filled with anime nerds (nothing wrong with that) who also consider themselves experts on Japan and Japanese culture (this, here, is the problem) while simultaneously not knowing much about it. Here's my take: if it's hard for the Japanese, and you're not Japanese, assume that you'll get it wrong. Best to be conservative.
I know it's really tempting to add kanji to everything Japanese-sounding (Chinese characters are admittedly cool) but consider that in this case, given Pat Morita's background and the way he was unfortunately typecast throughout his entire career, it might just not be appropriate or respectful. But that's just my take -- form your own opinion. But whatever you do, REFERENCE.
His second wife
The current wording, taken literally, suggests that Yuki's corpse was with Morita and his daughters at the time of his death. I take it that she is indeed alive? It could be made clearer. Luis Dantas 07:57, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yuki isn't dead, or at least the article doesn't say she is. —Locke Cole (talk) (e-mail) 08:56, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
He's the best
noriyukipatmorita.ytmnd.com "You're the best around!" Woot. PirateMonkey 10:15, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I wish someone would start a fan club for him. Louis June 2006 (San Antonio Tx)
- He certainly was. May we all wax on/wax off for life. Drdr1989 04:12, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Fixed spelling of "typecast." Past tense of "typecast" is "typecast." 216.165.154.87 15:01, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Vandalism
This page has been reverted to an earlier version on Dec 15, 2005 because of recent vandalism. Please review any recent changes.
There seems to be a bit of a conflict regarding where Noriyuki Morita died. One user commented that he died at home while the IMDb claims he died at Sunrise hospital. Can anyone confirm which of these claims is true ?
shadow_suit
Romance of the Three Kingdoms
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0295583/ Am I the only one to have seen this? Morita did a great job narrating a fascinating animation of these events. If there is a better link to this video, I would like to find it.
Ohara
I can't find DVD's or VHS of this series for the life of me. Oh and I added then deleted an entry into his fimography. I realized it was stupid Angrynight 06:51, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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Another movie he was in!
Please put in that he was in the martial arts spoof movie "18 fingers of death". He was great in this movie and even spoke in his American accent for a lot of it :). Aminalll 11:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Cause of death
can anyone identify the cause of Moria's death? this article says he died of complications assoited with alcoholism, but the Internet movie Database say he died of natural causes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.187.115 (talk) 21:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC).
Spongebob: Before or After Death?
Television and movie career
One of Morita's last TV roles was as Master Udon on the SpongeBob SquarePants episode, Karate Island. The episode was dedicated to him after he died about six months after the episode's first run.
Death
He also appeared in an episode of SpongeBob SquarePants (Karate Island) which wasn't released until after his death; the episode was dedicated to his memory.
So does any one happen to know which it was, whether the first run of the episode was before or after his death?
ideas for script of Karate Kid
I seem to recall the Mr Morita actually suggested to the writers of Karate Kid that Mr Miyagi should have served with the US army and also the history of his family in the US internment camps. This was apparently influenced by Mr Morita's own childhood in such camps and his knowledge of the Japanese soldiers in US army. I also seem to recall he was some kind of honary member of the veterans association. Does anyone have any sources or comments on this? (83.13.39.98 (talk) 21:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC))