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Disputed PROD. Non-notable and unverified neologism. Only reference is a blog & suspect it is WP:MADEUP nancy (talk) 22:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Surprisingly enough, this one looks real. A Google search for "israel sponga" turns up a number of references to the term; a Google Groups search turned up a few hits from 1997, suggesting that it isn't a particularly new term. I don't know where to look for reliable sources documenting the practice, but I suspect that someone more familiar with the culture may have an easier time finding sources than I. Zetawoof(ζ) 00:57, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Although it is true that there are links, these are all blogs. I am uncertain if this demonstrated notability. --NickPenguin(contribs) 01:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If nothing else, it suggests that this term is more than just a neologism. Do remember that Israel isn't an English-speaking country, so the hits we're seeing are mainly from English-speaking visitors to the country. Zetawoof(ζ) 04:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I did some more digging and have found that sponga is Esperanto for spongy[1] (and spongo is Esperanto for sponge) so there does seem to be a verifiable, if somewhat tenuous, link between the word and the act of cleaning however as Wikipedia is not a dictionary and as all other references are blogs, my inclination is still to delete. nancy (talk) 07:29, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Remember that this is an Israeli cultural artifact - "spunga" or "sponga" is an approximate rendering of a Hebrew term into English. The Esperanto connection is probably irrelevant. Zetawoof(ζ) 07:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, nothing to do with Esperanto. The word "sponge" is originally Greek and appears in numerous languages. --Dhartung | Talk 04:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nancy - if you ever traveled to Israel you would know that Spunga is a valid term for the special way Israelis clean/wash floors. Just because YOU never heard of it doesn't invalidate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poodwahr (talk • contribs) 14:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are many special and nonnotable things done in Israel. If you can provide a some sources and/or a good explination as to why this particular method of washing the floor is notable, then this article can be kept. --NickPenguin(contribs) 17:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a squeegee ----- the spunga actually employes a shmata (rag) which is cleverly wound around the bottom of the spunga in a figure 8 fashion. (A squeegee only employes the rubber end.) This shmata soaks up the soapy water that was flung on the floor and it both scrubs as well as absorbs the water. Very different from a squeegee.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.223.97 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I do not think this description matches the object pictured in the image in the article, although perhaps my eyes are not so good. And regardless of how clever this may be, I still do not see how it is notable. --NickPenguin(contribs) 19:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why is it notable? Because it is the only way that all Israeli's wash floors. And it is unusual in that I'm reasonable certain that none of the people involved in this discussion have ever used a spunga, being that you have never cleaned a floor in Israel. It is a far more effective way to clean because the mop is not being reinserted in dirty water. The entry should certainly remain.Myteemouse (talk) 06:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately Nick does not comprehend the special way 6 million people wash the floors in their residences in Israel. This is unique in the world as far as I can tell having traveled to over 100 countries (how may have you been to?). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.223.97 (talk) 16:54, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My personal travel history is irrelevant to the points I have made in this discussion. I would politely request that you do not imply that I am ignorant just because you presume I haven't traveled to X number of countries and absorbed Y number of minor details about those cultures. Thanks, --NickPenguin(contribs) 17:41, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not ignorant Nick, just unfamiliar with the practices in foreign countries.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Keilanatalk(recall) 00:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The photographs are just items used when you spunga, which is a cleaning method. Tile floors, furniture removed, splash a whole lot of water everywhere, squeegee/mop it outside. As noted, however, sources are a problem. --Dhartung | Talk 07:32, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Mop. Colonel Warden (talk) 10:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Mop. No decent references available in Hebrew either. пﮟოьεԻ 57 11:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • KeepAll comment above are from contributors who really don't know anything about spunga and are postulating. Truth be known spunga is a very common term for anyone that has spent more than 1 week in Israel. I doubt the above contibutors have ever ventured to that part of the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.223.97 (talk) 12:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is a very important instrument for cleaning; if it is utilized by an entire country that certainly makes it more notable than a DustBuster which has its own page, without any sources, without any pictures. This is an item that can be purchased in most local convenience stores, while a mop cannot be found in any store in Israel (I've been living in Israel for 8 years). This item is so significant that houses and apartments are designed to facilitate its use. These arguments lead to the obvious conclusion that spunga is a necessity for Mainspace.17:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Myteemouse (talk • contribs)
  • Merge or Redirect to Squeegee (rather than Mop). The word may be genuine, but I don't think that one particular regional word for an everyday activity (cleaning the floor), or for the implement used for it, is notable in itself; especially when the implement is already covered in an existing article. We don't have an article on "hoovering" as distinct from Vacuum cleaner, after all. Tevildo (talk) 18:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Hoovering is the same as vacuuming ... But SPUNGAING is very different from SQUEEGEEING.
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