- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Consensus is the topic is notable via WP:GNG. Consensus is the article needs considerable improvement. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:45, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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Subject not notable for an article. Clearly fails WP:GNG Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 12:20, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Aren't "the series writer of the Danganronpa franchise" and "the founder of a notable video game company" enough for the criteria of being notable? And could you explain more on why it "clearly" falls WP:GNG? Thanks. -Hijk910 (talk) 12:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Is it (original) a "significant coverage" in your opinion? Btw, Keep (do I make it right? Not so sure how it works in English Wikipedia. I'm from the Chinese one). -Hijk910 (talk) 12:40, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Synoman Barris: I am still waiting for your reply. -Hijk910 (talk) 17:16, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Article needs expansion. Danganronpa is a notable work. Ashishkafle (talk) 13:02, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited. There are very few sources that independently cover him rather than his games, so I'll say to redirect to Danganronpa, his most known work. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 05:40, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. A Google search indicates there are independent media coverage of the subject and his works. This article only needs more work. Ugbede (talk) 7:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Redirect to Danganronpa as a valid alternative to deletion, with no prejudice against recreation should someone be willing to invest the time and create a well-sourced article about the author down the road. Article as it is is very under sourced and we should be mindful of WP:BLP in that regard, but a redirect now gives us the best of both worlds - it allows readers access to an article about what the subject is best known for, and retains the old material for building an article when ready. Red Phoenix talk 19:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)- Nonsense. Why not redirect to Too Kyo Games then? -Hijk910 (talk) 04:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Because even that article makes extensive reference to Danganronpa and is focused heavily on the franchise; it does nothing to change what Kodaka is most known for. So, Danganronpa is still the most logical target. Red Phoenix talk 12:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Also Too Kyo Games if you read carefully. Besides, the current references should show he is a notable topic. You will know that if you can understand Japanese. -Hijk910 (talk) 12:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- They show that Too Kyo Games and Danganronpa are notable subjects. They don’t show Kodaka is. Show me significant coverage about Kodaka himself. Red Phoenix talk 18:58, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Again, read carefully: [1]. -Hijk910 (talk) 17:16, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- And that is not significant coverage; repeating the same argument isn't convincing. The original interview isn't even just Kodaka, so how can you say he's a notable subject because someone interviewed him and someone else about a game studio? What is convincing is what Toughpigs did below, finding multiple references that have a more significant focus on the subject. I have stricken my !vote, but I'd advise you to read WP:GNG on what is significant coverage and WP:INTERVIEW on the limitations of interviews being considered for notability. Red Phoenix talk 17:37, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Just because I did not use the term "WP:NEXIST" does not mean I did not mean the same thing. I told you to read the current references. Did you read them? -Hijk910 (talk) 17:14, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- And that is not significant coverage; repeating the same argument isn't convincing. The original interview isn't even just Kodaka, so how can you say he's a notable subject because someone interviewed him and someone else about a game studio? What is convincing is what Toughpigs did below, finding multiple references that have a more significant focus on the subject. I have stricken my !vote, but I'd advise you to read WP:GNG on what is significant coverage and WP:INTERVIEW on the limitations of interviews being considered for notability. Red Phoenix talk 17:37, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Again, read carefully: [1]. -Hijk910 (talk) 17:16, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- They show that Too Kyo Games and Danganronpa are notable subjects. They don’t show Kodaka is. Show me significant coverage about Kodaka himself. Red Phoenix talk 18:58, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Also Too Kyo Games if you read carefully. Besides, the current references should show he is a notable topic. You will know that if you can understand Japanese. -Hijk910 (talk) 12:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Because even that article makes extensive reference to Danganronpa and is focused heavily on the franchise; it does nothing to change what Kodaka is most known for. So, Danganronpa is still the most logical target. Red Phoenix talk 12:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Nonsense. Why not redirect to Too Kyo Games then? -Hijk910 (talk) 04:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus leading to keep, however, there is dispute over the refs that would confirm GNG; use a relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 13:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Consensus leading to keep, however, there is dispute over the refs that would confirm GNG; use a relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 13:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I am with the keep votes, I see enough for GNG, Playstation Life magazine and videogamer.com [2], have covered him and his works. There are other interviews and such online. Govvy (talk) 14:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NEXIST. The videogame press seems to cover Kodaka pretty closely. There are a lot of headlines: "Too Kyo Games’ Kazutaka Kodaka Will Announce a New Title Tomorrow" (Silicon Era, Dec 2019), "Danganronpa creator Kazutaka Kodaka establishes new game studio" (Gamasutra, Sept 2018), "Celebrate Danganronpa's 10th Anniversary with a Message from Creator Kazutaka Kodaka" (Crunchyroll, June 2020), "Kazutaka Kodaka states that an announcement for one of Too Kyo Games’ upcoming projects will arrive on March 13th" (FinalWeapon, March 2020), "‘Danganronpa’ Creator Kazutaka Kodaka’s Latest Game ‘Death Come True’ Given Release Date" (Otaquest, June 2020). It seems pretty clear that Kodaka is well-known enough in his field that people write about him whenever he does anything interesting (start a game studio, announce a new game, celebrate an anniversary). I expect that in Japanese sources there would be a lot more. — Toughpigs (talk) 15:10, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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