Commons:Deletion requests/Files from Bob Bobster on Flickr
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Files from Bob Bobster on Flickr
The Flickr user Bob Bobster (bobster855) is listed as an unreliable source at Commons:Questionable Flickr images because their profile page did at one point state that they upload photos taken by other people. It's clear that a lot of files sourced from this account have incorrect information on the authorship and licensing/copyright status, so a review is in order. Most of these should never have passed Flickr review in their current state. Several of the file descriptions also contain lengthy excerpts taken from Wikipedia articles without proper acknowledgment.
These need to be corrected or deleted:
File:Inside subway 1973.gif - from the National ArchivesFile:Jess Willard 1915.jpg - see en:File:Jesswillard1.jpgFile:John L. Sullivan 1882.jpg - from the Library of CongressFile:Afro-American Monument, circa 1897.jpg - from the Library of Congress- File:Stonewall Inn September 1969 (Photo from New York Public Library).jpg - exact duplicate of the correctly attributed and sourcedFile:Stonewall Inn 1969.jpg
File:Women in Waldorf-Astoria.jpg - from the National Archives. The copyright tag may be correct, but the authorship information is false and there is no verifiable information on first publication.File:US river patrol boat in Vietnam.gif - from the National Archivesthis and above 6 cor., --Martin H. (talk) 16:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)- File:Body art, 1907.jpg - from the National Archives
- File:Helen Jacobs.jpg - from the New York Public Library
File:Mrs. Stene-Tu a Thlinget belle, 1906.jpg - from the New York Public Library, who claim it was first published in 1906, so it can probably be kept with corrected information.tagged pd-us, --Martin H. (talk) 18:22, 27 February 2010 (UTC)File:Androgyny.Portrait of a boy, ca. 1800.jpg - from the Victoria & Albert MuseumFile:Georgetown varisty track team 1910.jpg - from the Library of CongressFile:Isadora's dancers.jpg - from the Library of Congress, taken by Frances Benjamin Johnston (1864–1952)File:Ruth, Bentley, and Dunn.jpg - from the Library of Congress, taken in 1923- File:Pete Seeger and Bernice Johnson Reagon.jpg - from the Smithsonian, taken in 1968 by Diana Davies
- File:Affiche du cuirassé potemkine.jpg - a movie poster from 1925
- File:Hubert Humphrey, civil rights pioneer, 1948.jpg
File:Olympic postcard.jpg - from the New York Public Library, somehow passed Flickr review without a copyright tag(!)File:RMS Olympic.jpg - the same picture as aboveFile:Roller skates, 1910.jpg - from the Library of CongressFile:Girl at Gees Bend, 1937.jpg - from the Library of Congress, taken by Arthur Rothstein (1915–1985) {{PD-USGov-OWI}}?per LOC yes,--Martin H. (talk) 19:48, 27 February 2010 (UTC)File:The Drunk.jpg - from the Library of CongressFile:Titanic survivors on the Carpathia, 1912.jpg - from the Library of Congress
These may be legit:
File:Free Hugs 2008 San Francisco Gay Pride Parade.jpg - no exif dataFlickr user claims he took the picture, no proof he didn't. Seeing as how he has this pic from 2008 and the Amber Alert pic below from California the same year, it's plausible he did in fact take the photos. - ALLST✰R▼echo wuz here 23:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)- File:Growing above the clouds.jpg - no exif data
File:Welcome to Oz.jpg - taken with a Canon PowerShot S330 in November 2002Nothing wrong here, Flickr user claims to have taken photo, camera brand and model matches partiality to Canon PowerShots from other photos exif data, its properly licensed. - ALLST✰R▼echo wuz here 21:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)File:Amber Alert.jpg - taken with a Canon PowerShot A510 in June 2008File:Honolulu civil union rally.jpg - taken with a Canon PowerShot A590 IS in March 2009This one and 3 below, all same camera, same year, different months, no issues here - ALLST✰R▼echo wuz here 23:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)File:Google Street View Car in Honolulu.jpg - taken with a Canon PowerShot A590 IS in May 2009File:Molokini, 2009-07-25.jpg - taken with a Canon PowerShot A590 IS in July 2009File:Aerial view of Hakalau Bay, 2009-07-25.jpg - taken with a Canon PowerShot A590 IS in July 2009
The following appear to be OK:
—LX (talk, contribs) 14:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Keep almost everything in this list. Maybe best to close the DR, and concentrate on the very few real problems. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 15:48, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Comment better to simply keep the request open and solve all problems. --Martin H. (talk) 16:13, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Martin. "Bob Bobster" is falsely listed as the author of most of these works. Most of these works are falsely listed as being protected by copyright and licensed under {{CC-by}} with the requirement to attribute "Bob Bobster." Many of them lack verifiable source information. Those are real problems. —LX (talk, contribs) 16:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Many of these files are from the LoC. It does not need a DR to change a licence to PD. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- I was wondering about that. Some of these images are 100+ years old. One of them I noticed is 200 years old. Don't know about other countries but what's the copyright issue on a 100 year old photo that is from the LoC? - ALLST✰R▼echo wuz here 17:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Many of these files are from the LoC. It does not need a DR to change a licence to PD. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Martin. "Bob Bobster" is falsely listed as the author of most of these works. Most of these works are falsely listed as being protected by copyright and licensed under {{CC-by}} with the requirement to attribute "Bob Bobster." Many of them lack verifiable source information. Those are real problems. —LX (talk, contribs) 16:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- FWIW -- FWIW using External links on this individuals flickr-id, produces 72 hits. Geo Swan (talk) 19:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Lots of duplicates in that list. - ALLST✰R▼echo wuz here 16:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- I think I agree with Pieter Kuiper that we should shelve this request and concentrate on the truly questionable images. I suggest the following images can be moved to the non-problematic list, because they would all qualify for {{PD-Old}}. Geo Swan (talk) 19:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
File:Body art, 1907.jpg - from the National ArchivesFile:Mrs. Stene-Tu a Thlinget belle, 1906.jpg - from the New York Public Library, who claim it was first published in 1906, so it can probably be kept with corrected information.File:Androgyny.Portrait of a boy, ca. 1800.jpg - from the Victoria & Albert MuseumFile:Georgetown varisty track team 1910.jpg - from the Library of CongressFile:Isadora's dancers.jpg - from the Library of Congress, taken by Frances Benjamin Johnston (1864–1952)File:Ruth, Bentley, and Dunn.jpg - from the Library of Congress, taken in 1923File:Olympic postcard.jpg - from the New York Public Library, somehow passed Flickr review without a copyright tag(!)File:RMS Olympic.jpg - the same picture as aboveFile:Roller skates, 1910.jpg - from the Library of CongressFile:Titanic survivors on the Carpathia, 1912.jpg - from the Library of Congress
- Not pd-old without knowing that the author died 70 years ago! The file you list here, File:Isadora's dancers.jpg, fails your pd-old for 10 years already, be more carefull and accurate please. --Martin H. (talk) 19:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Delete the rest, including the one I uploaded from the stream and the others that were crossed out by the IP (I de-crossed, the flickr account is corrupt and the notices were removed). Note to the IP: removing deletion notices on file pages should not happen until the discussion is over. Hekerui (talk) 11:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- My account isn't corrupt. I thought I was signed in but wasn't. The consensus seemed to be on the side of with closing the deletion discussion and dealing with each image individually. As I pointed out in my notations by the images above, there is nothing wrong with those particular images. They are personal images taken by the Flickr user and the evidence is on the user's side. Partiality to same brand and model of camera, times correlating with places and dates user claims to have taken the pictures. They should not be deleted nor included in this discussion. - ALLST✰R▼echo wuz here 21:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)