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Do I need to credit a photo in public domain that isn't credited on Wiki Commons?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marie_Equi_(1872-1952).jpg#filelinks

Although Wiki Commons says this photo is in the public domain and doesn't mention the source, I have seen it in a book as credited to a historical society. Is this really in the public domain and do I have to credit the historical society?

2602:306:37A3:26B0:F976:DE3B:F325:6F07 01:54, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The photos in public domain does not need credits but may be credited to its author. Ruslik (talk) 19:06, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There's no information on its page to indicate that it's actually in the PD. --Prosfilaes (talk) 20:18, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The credit to a historical society is most likely not a credit to the 'author', but instead to a 'source' for a copy of an image, and the copy obtained from Commons is not from that source. You are not legally obligated to give any attribution or sourcing for a public domain image, though you 'should' (in my opinion) for the sake of historical accuracy if nothing else. I don't se any actual proof that the image is PD, but it probably is. The General disclaimer definitely applies, especially for any commercial use. Reventtalk 00:28, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Photograph of musician Michael Morrow

Moved to Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#Photograph of musician Michael Morrow, since only the OTRS volunteers can help with this question. - Jmabel ! talk 14:59, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I would like to update our company logo as it is still an old one, we aren't using for years now. We have created the logo by ourselves, but I don't know how I can update it and what license we have.

It is our company logo and I'm updating it in the companies name.

Could you please help?

Thanks and best Regards,

--Sedo2 (talk) 14:08, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sedo2! Commons:Guidance for paid editors covers your situation. LX (talk, contribs) 16:18, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No subject

I'm trying to upload a photo to and article "Marjorie Lynn" and I keep getting an error message. I'm confused since this if my first time uploading and the photo seems to be fine. Any help would be appreciated.

Dr. Grampinator (talk) 17:12, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dr. Grampinator! I see from Special:AbuseLog/1444644 that you encountered an upload filter that prevents low-resolution uploads from newly registered users using the particular upload process that you used. The reason for this filter is that such uploads overwhelmingly turn out to be copyright violations. An 970×1255 pixel image is quite small and more typical of a file downloaded from the Internet than what a camera would produce. If you personally created this photograph, why is it so small? LX (talk, contribs) 17:19, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr. Grampinator: I see you uploaded en:File:MeriMaids.jpg directly on the English-language Wikipedia and that you claim there to be the copyright-holder and be releasing this under a CC-0 license. I'm not saying that's impossible, but the photo was taken about 70 years ago. Are you the photographer (and now in your 90s or so), the heir to the photographer, or what? - Jmabel ! talk

My category was destroyed by someone ignorant

I made up a category called "Sackabfuhr" (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sackabfuhr?uselang=de) here that deals ONLY with a special form of waste collection ONLY in the city and state of hamburg, Germany (cf. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sackabfuhr_(Hamburg) ). That's the reason why I called it "Sackabfuhr" with the German term. Some ignorant user destroyed the category and split some files to a general waste bag category, other files have gone to the nirvana ... I'm really, really, really angry. Why wasn't I contacted first? If someone does not understand the German description, why don't they ask me first? THIS BULK ACTION MUST BE REVERTED ASAP! How do I do that? GeoTrinity (talk) 01:15, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My article on the Sackabfuhr is likely to appear on the German Wikipedia start page soon, and all visitors clicking on the Commonscat link will now find everything but not my 44 files showing Sackabfuhr in Hamburg! I'm sorry but this action was pure vandalism by the user ŠJů. Could someone with powers please restore my category soon? Thanks. GeoTrinity (talk) 01:25, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Could you name it "Waste bag collection in Hamburg"? --ghouston (talk) 01:40, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing was destroyed and nobody should be titled "ignorant" here. I cleaned some unsystematically named categories and insufficiently categorized files and categories. As can be seen in the history, the category Sackabfuhr was never categorized under "Hamburg" before my edits (i.e. the German description didn't correspond to the categorization nor to the category name). Even the files were not categorized by location anyway. I hope, Category:Waste bag collection in Hamburg is more convenient for the Commons categorization system. --ŠJů (talk) 02:10, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@ GeoTrinity: Btw., when you want to link a category, use simply a colon before the word "Category". [[:Category:Hamburg]] displays as Category:Hamburg. And when you want link any wikipedia article from Commons, you can use the same way with the language prefix: [[:de:Sackabfuhr (Hamburg)]] displays as de:Sackabfuhr (Hamburg). Do not forget the initial colon! Cheers! --ŠJů (talk) 02:20, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I invested a lot of time to write the article in the German wikipedia project and to create the corresponding category. Of course you are ignorant since you simply did not understand that "Sackabfuhr" is not the general collection of waste bags but the official way of collecting trash in specific red or pink bags for those 13,000 households that don't have other waste containers. It must not be confused with other, general waste bag collections. Therefore, your category "waste bag collection in Hamburg" is simply wrong since Sackabfuhr has nothing at all to do with other, free, or paid forms of waste bag collections. You dissolved the differentiation though. And whenever a category is useful for something specific, the terminus technicus has to be used, cf. the existing category "gelber sack", even if this is in a language other than German. What you did, is NOT an improvement but you destroyed a working category for something very specific that was set up correctly by me, with a lot of effort, by the way. I will now look for a way to revert your crap on my own. If you don't fully understand what this category is about, you better leave your hands off it. What you did was a mistake. GeoTrinity (talk) 19:17, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And I invested a bit of my time to correct your errors in categozation and naming categories and embody your contributions to Commons categorization system. Co-operation is a ground of wiki work. --ŠJů (talk) 20:49, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GeoTrinity asked me for help and review of the current situation. Here my 2 cents: As far as I see ŠJů acted in good faith but in lack of knowledge of the specific waste handling of Hamburg. This can happen and should be no drama. After reading the article de:Sackabfuhr (Hamburg) I suggest to (re)create a specific Category:Sackabfuhr (Hamburg) to collect all images of pink waste bags of Hamburg. Does this sound as a solution? Raymond 15:28, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I can add my cents again. Every city and every municipality have its own "specific waste handlings" and every city or municipality have specific colours, design and types of bags, containers etc. There is nothing mysterious nor incomprehensible on the Hamburg waste bag collection system. As far as I see GeoTrinity acted in good faith but obviously (as proved above) in lack of knowledge of the specific principles and handling of wiki categorization system at Commons. This can happen and should be no drama. The systematic category Category:Waste bag collection in Hamburg contains (in its corresponding subcategories) all images of "pink waste bags" and all images of waste bag containers from the previous Sackabfuhr category (which was specific primarily by the fact that it was improperly named and quite deficiently and inadequately categorized). There was no reason for panic or hysteria, no reason for rude assaults and insults – nothing was destroyed, nothing is disappeared. On the contrary, several serious categorization errors were corrected by me and the Hamburger collection system was made integrated to the categorization structure. The only problem was that GeoTrinity didn't orientate himself in the categorization structure and is not willing to accept that category names are generally in English (except for proper names or brands) and categories need to be integrated to the categorization system and conform with it.
Generally, "waste bag collection" categories contain mostly images from municipalities where is a system similar to the Hamburger one. As far as we will seen that there exist several distinct waste bag collection systems in Hamburg, we can try to distinguish them, however the word "Sackabfuhr" is not able to do so anyway because it is a literal translation of the common English description term "bag collection" only. Currently I see no need for such a distinguishing. City of Hamburg has the only waste bag collection system. As proved by a Google test, "Sackabfuhr" is not a specific "brand" name of the Hamburger system but a common term used also in other German-language cities which use or consider similar waste bag collection systems (whether for residual mixed waste or for sorted waste).
Raymond, what is your idea how should the (re)created category be integrated to the standard categorization system? According to your vision, Category:Sackabfuhr (Hamburg) should be a subcategory of Category:Waste bag collection in Hamburg and should have specific subcategories Category:Waste bags in Hamburg ("Sackabfuhr" system), Category:Waste bag containers in Hamburg ("Sackabfuhr" system), Category:Waste bag collection trucks in Hamburg ("Sackabfuhr" system) etc.? Or even your idea is to have the longed-for category as a parallel unsorted, unstructured and not interconnected mix? Wouldn't be better to create a gallery page for such a purpose? --ŠJů (talk) 19:04, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ŠJů: Sorry I forget to mention that Category:Sackabfuhr (Hamburg) should be a subcategory of Category:Waste bag collection in Hamburg. Gallery page... hmm.. I am not a fan of it. Isn't really maintainable. Raymond 19:28, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A gallery page is better maintainable than any needlessly complicated and unsystematic categorization, and above all, it would not disrupt the categorization system. What is your idea how the Category:Sackabfuhr (Hamburg) should be structured? Really we need such a paralel category tree, with a danger it will scatter images and rivall the standard subcategories? Why not to keep a standard and simple categorization and to learn to use it? --ŠJů (talk) 19:46, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Image in WikiData

We have an old company logo that is still being referenced on the web in WikiData. I've already uploaded a new one, but how can I remove the old one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiUser1980 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 01 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File format changes automatically while moving Audio Files

Hi, I was moving some audio files to their appropriate names but the file format has automatically changed from .ogg to .oga. Now, even if I try to change it to .ogg, it does not happen and say that this file name already exists. Take "File:Pa-ਆਟਾ.oga" for example. Thanks a lot for your support. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 04:36, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's been like that for years. If you try to move .JPG it automatically becomes .jpg too. Ogg automatically becomes Oga. I've never heard of anything that changes this. INeverCry 06:26, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If file extensions (not format) changes while they are moved, then they should have changed on the time of uploading. This change of file extensions create some problems, like group of files not in harmony (which is caused by one or more files having different file extensions), forcing a filemover to move a lot of files in the group to be in harmony instead of moving just few. I will be filing a task in Phabricator about this. Poké95 12:31, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Task created: phab:T144593 Poké95 13:07, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User:Pokéfan95 Thanks a lot for creating this task. This complicates the things a lot. All the .ogg audio files are required to be changed to .oga on Wikimedia Commons and then we have to fix the template on wiktionaries which use a template that accesses PAGENAME.ogg from Wikimedia Commons.--Satdeep Gill (talk) 13:28, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cities

Hi

which city is the best where i will get paid to live ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prakash singh 887 (talk • contribs) 08:53, 02 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Common is not a place for such inquiries. Thank you. Wikicology (talk) 11:12, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

How do i register and store in my information details with wikimedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankuhoji (talk • contribs) 09:16, 02 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Facebook or Linkedin will be the appropriate place for that. Wikimedia projects are not social media. Thank you. Wikicology (talk) 11:11, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

my photo

Excuse me, I'm trying to upload photo of Yury Revich to the Pages about Yury Revich in eng, ger and rus. It's always deleted!! can anyone explain me why? the wikipedia puts always the photo where i am 15 years old! i need to have an updated photo!

File:Yury Revich.jpg
Yury Revich with the Stradivari 1709

I OWN this photo! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yurevich777 (talk • contribs) 09:47, 02 September 2016 (UTC) that was the link! now its deleted again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yurevich777 (talk • contribs) 09:46, 02 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Common is not a personal photo album. Wikicology (talk) 11:08, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

so how do i update the photo in the articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yurevich777 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 02 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikicology: Agreed that Wikimedia Commons is not a personal photo album, but given that there is an article about him in en-wiki that would not seem to be the issue here. - Jmabel ! talk 18:30, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Yurevich777: Assuming that we are talking about File:Yury Revich.jpg, though, there are two problems. (1) only the copyright holder can license copyrights to a photo. Typically that would be the photographer. You as the subject can do so only if those rights have been signed over to you in writing. (2) Given that the picture has been previously published, we will need a release as described in COM:OTRS. - Jmabel ! talk 18:35, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I actually misread their comment. My bad! Good to see that you have responded to this. Thank you. Warm regards. Wikicology (talk) 18:50, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

so what now?? the photographer has to spend his time to register here to upload the photo?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yurevich777 (talk • contribs) 10:36, 03 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • That would be one solution. The other two are (1) if the photographer has a web presence, he or she could post it there with a clear statement of what license applies, and you could reference that as the source or (2) the photographer could send an email as described in COM:OTRS. You could prepare that email yourself, to minimize their work. In the future, if you are having photography done professionally and want to release it under a CC license, this all becomes much simpler if first publication indicates that license. - Jmabel ! talk 15:40, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mikel Vives allows to Yury Revich to use all the pictures we took on March/2016 — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 79.148.179.90 (talk) 13:00, 04 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@79.148.179.90: Statements of permissions posted to the wiki are not sufficient. See COM:OTRS. Reventtalk 00:43, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

trying to save a photo

i get this prompt if i am trying to save a photo on the page i am editing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wxdxt (talk • contribs) 09:08, 03 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Which page was you editing? Ruslik (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Using a Wikipedia photo for a cover image

I found a photo here: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Terracotta_Aeneas_MAN_Naples_110338.jpg that I would like to use as the front cover image for my book (self -published). I'm afraid I can't tell for sure if the Creative Commons license permits that type of use or not, so some help on that front would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 50.53.180.200 (talk) 08:21, 04 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly permits, but you must attribute the image as specified in Commons:Credit_line for the CC-BY-SA license. Ruslik (talk) 17:39, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
See also Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia. Ruslik (talk) 17:43, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help desk

Hello, We have Commons:Help desk and Commons:Upload help. As far i can see (looking at the posts) both are used for the same purpose. Likely it less confusing to have only one help desk (merging Commons:Upload help into Commons:Help desk)? Best --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:13, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

+1 -- MaxxL - talk 17:19, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Seems reasonable, the amount of traffic would still be manageable. BMacZero (talk) 15:29, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Pictures "Ukranenland"

Hello Help Desk Team,

a couple of days ago I tried to push a deletion of the following pictures:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ukranenland

I'm a member of the museum in Germany where this Commons/Wikipedia article is about. (Ukranenland Historische Werkstätten e.V.) The chief of the museum asked me for help in this Wikipedia/Commons issue, because he is not into computer and internet.

ALL pictures that are shown in the link are very old. Some of them were photographed after a flood that destroyed the museum. So the pics don't show the actual status of the musem AT ALL.

Some of the pics are even very hurting to the image of the museum and because of that,it could mean an economical damage to our institution.

I marked every pic there for deletion, but one of your admins blocked me after that. He thought I was a spam-bot. That's not the case.


So once again....please help to delete this horrible pictures!

To replace it and to show the real image of the museum, we got many professional shots that can be uploaded after the deletion!

Thanks in advance!

Henning Boldt Ukranenland Historische Werkstätten e.V. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eygenart (talk • contribs) 18:15, 04 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's no reason to assume that any pictures should show the current status of the museum. Photographs show the past by their nature.
I don't think it likely that these files will be deleted; I think the best thing you could do is contextualize them and provide new images showing the current state of the museum. (You'll probably need to send a message to OTRS to clarify that you represent the museum and that the museum has the rights to freely license these new professional pictures.)--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:34, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Documentation of history is well within the scope of Commons. You should, instead, create subcategories that show the pre-flood museum, and the effects of the flood, and then keep only 'current' images in the top category. If you don't know how, you can ask for help with a list of the images that belong to each group. Reventtalk 00:48, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

T.M.I.

Your site has too many instructions and info overload: I already have a wikipedia account; why do I need ***another*** account to be able to submit the U.S. Monument photos???

dcrose42@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcrose42 (talk • contribs) 11:14, 05 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Dcrose42: Typically you should be able to log on to Commons with the same account you use on the English-language Wikipedia (or any other Wikipedia). You seem to have done so in leaving this comment. Have you tried and failed to upload under that account? Or have you not tried? - Jmabel ! talk 14:45, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template for tag when uploading an edited version of a picture already in the Commons?

Hello. I've never found the Commons site very easy to navigate and I can't find where the templates for the different copyright statuses are. I am about to upload an edited version of a picture that is already in the public domain and in the Commons (I'm removing a large frame around the image), before using it in a Wikipedia article. Could someone please point me towards the tag/template etc. to use to link it back to the original file and mark it as public domain too? Many thanks, DionysosProteus (talk) 16:21, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You could use teh same format that I used at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Half_Bananas_for_Sale_at_Market_-_Trivandrum_-_Kerala_-_India.jpg. Martinvl (talk) 16:41, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. DionysosProteus (talk) 18:05, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@DionysosProteus: {{Extracted from}} is probably the most relevant for a crop. Stick it in the "other versions" part of the {{Information}} template. - Jmabel ! talk 19:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Even better, that was the one I was thinking of. Thanks. DionysosProteus (talk) 19:13, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

how it works??

I'm very happy to be in wikimedia with you I wanna work with you, according the terms and conditions of the worldwide wikimedia I basicaly wanna to have a conduct with other people all over the work on specific tops, as "bargaining game", math, local development, political economy..utility function, utilitarian theories, and especially the "agent Theory" in close corellation with the Caratheodory's "umbilical points" I wish to have the possibility to do this, in the frame and the rules that YOU defined

Please tell me

1. how to subscribe (username,password etc) 2. how to upload some of my work 3.how to upload photos from the social experiment in the LDC and their people

Looking forward to hearing from you as soon....

Prof Papakonstantinidis — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2A02:214B:8108:2400:D123:8C39:33BD:2D25 (talk) 17:46, 06 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Commons:First steps. LX (talk, contribs) 19:26, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Problem uploading photos

I can't upload photos to commons using "upload file" or the upload wizard. I can upload with Vicunna uploader. I have a similar problem uploading to Facebook. Facebook says to update Adobe Flash, but I've done that and this Windows 10 doesn't need it anyway (I read). I tried another Windows 10 computer and it does not have the same problem. But I need to get the problem fixed on my main computer - any ideas? Bubba73 (talk) 21:15, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Basically in Firefox the tab just says "onnecting" and the blue circle is spinning. It does this for a few minutes, then stops; and the file has not been uplaoded. Months ago I often had problems with upload Wizard so I went to Commons Upload. But that quit working. Vicuna uplaoder works but it is overkill to upload one photo. Bubba73 (talk) 00:56, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I may be due to some Firefox extension. You check them. Ruslik (talk) 12:29, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I uninstalled Firefox, reinstalled it, and don't have any extensions. IE has the same problem. I'll check other browsers. Bubba73 (talk) 02:03, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Google Chrome doesn't have the problem. Bubba73 (talk) 02:08, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Royal_College_of_Music_logo.jpg

The college has recently updated its logo and this is reflected on the College's Wikipedia page. I want to replace the existing on Wikimedia Commons with the new one. The German, Chinese and another still displace the old logo.

How do I replace this exiting logo because when our URL is typed into emails, it picks this wrong logo. This is not good for our branding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warriorg (talk • contribs) 08:44, 08 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File is just availibale on Commons, not on language-specific Wikipedia?

Hi, I want to embed this image (IPhone 7 Logo.svg) in the iPhone 7 Wikipedia article. Problem is: it is not displayed, it seems like the image is non-existent - but it is! The Commons page is availibale, but not the image pages on de.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org etc. Could you help me with this? --TheMostAmazingTechnik (talk) 13:21, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]