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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. TalkIslander 01:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Scarecrow (Japanese band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
No real evidence of meeting WP:BAND as Kenichi Ito was deleted as a result of an AfD. Ito, Scarecrow, Iceman, and vocalist Michihiro Kuroda form a WP:Walled garden, each depending upon the others for notability. B.Wind (talk) 04:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: No third-party references indicating notability for this band or any of its members. --DAJF (talk) 05:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- keep Scarecrow is notable band in japan found from Iceman menbers.--Checkmao (talk) 11:01, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- But are there any non-trivial third-party links that demonstrate this notability? --DAJF (talk) 15:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Tear down this walled garden! Scarecrow's notability is being asserted from a connection with/to Iceman (Japanese band), an emsemble that seems to be lacking in reliable sources demonstrating that band's reaching the WP:BAND notability/verifiability bar. It cannot rely upon Kenichi Ito for its notability as the Wikipedia article on this guitarist was deleted last week. 147.70.242.54 (talk) 19:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete walled garden construct. No indication of notability or meeting WP:BAND once the "inherited" notability by blue link is stripped away as must be done in walled garden contexts. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: a walled garden built around a scarecrow. No reliable independent 3rd party sources WP:BAND. JamesBurns (talk) 00:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —Fg2 (talk) 10:57, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenichi Ito. Dekimasuよ! 12:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment how far down does the "national chart" clause of WP:BAND go? Walled-garden or not, these guys did have a single at #89 [1]. — Neier (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- By the time you get to the 50s on the Oricon chart... or sometimes even the 40s... you can be looking at sales of under 2000 copies. Dekimasuよ! 01:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed. I'm pretty sure that it would require a WP:LAWYER interpretation of WP:BAND to keep this article; but, if someone wants to make the case, the information is there. AFAIK, Oricon's weekly charts stop at 30; so, it was surprising to see something that low reported on the artist page (I think another of their singles hit #151). Neier (talk) 13:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- By the time you get to the 50s on the Oricon chart... or sometimes even the 40s... you can be looking at sales of under 2000 copies. Dekimasuよ! 01:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.